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How did you personally get better at Osu!

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NoJoke_old_1
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NoJoke_old_1
I've been a very loyal Osu! player off and on for a year now and I'm slowly progressing.

I can beat a large majority of the [HARD] maps however I struggle with the maps that are inbetween [HARD] and [INSANE]. I can't exceed past that point due to the fast-paced movement. I really don't know how you guys do it. At first, I couldn't even complete a 1-2 star map when I first started, now I can complete 3.5-4's. I'd really like to progress further.

Would anyone have any tips? It sounds pathetic and I'll most likely be flamed for this ._. I'd just like to gain more knowledge and possibly assist others in the future as well by relaying my knowledge. Perhaps you could be so kind to do the same for me?

I'd really like to specifically know how to progress to higher-paced maps (insane). From my personal experience I always put on SD so I challenge myself not to miss a note. However I'm not sure if that's the most productive way of doing such a thing. I've also been experimenting with HR + SD and sometimes DS.

Any tips, anything at all would be appreciated :oops:
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost
Just play maps that you find difficult such that you can clear it in a few attempts. You'll progress faster doing this than if you were to spend time FCing songs. Also http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/99612.
NoJoke_old_1
Topic Starter
NoJoke_old_1

Almost wrote:

Just play maps that you find difficult such that you can clear it in a few attempts. You'll progress faster doing this than if you were to spend time FCing songs. Also http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/99612.
Thank you for your insightful post.

Basically from what I've read, I've accumulated the knowledge that it's simply training your brain to register images (beats) at a faster rate so you can respond to them accurately. With this said, while using the right methods, you can train your brain to do so at a faster pace by playing Takio as an example to get your accuracy up.

However there's one more thing. Generally I do quite well on almost any map but what really screws me up would be faster paced sliders that I always seemingly accidentally get out of the target range thus resulting in a combo breaker. I cannot maintain a stable combo for the life of me. Perhaps you'd have any insight on this issue? I'm currently using a mouse - training myself to use a mouse to hover and using Z + X to actually click to be more efficient. Any advice?

Edit: I also have a problem where I tend to get a lot of 50's - 100's which I assume it's just me clicking way too soon or too early. Would this improve over time or is there a trick to it?
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost
When you say "fast paced sliders" do you mean the that the sliders are fast throughout the song or the song just has randomly fast sliders? If it's the former, then you just have to practice but if it's the latter, you'd have to memorize those sliders in the song. Your second problem is probably just miss interpretation of the song since you really only should be getting 50s if that's the case. Try playing with hidden, it helps with figuring out the beat and you'll probably see less 50s.
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
Also, it's worth checking that you're not handicapped by your hardware settings, ie mouse speed/dpi/acceleration settings, tablet area etc. I didn't really think osu is playable till just a few months ago (for full story see my user page sigh =.=)

There're already quite a few good threads about hardware settings, just do a search and you should find them relatively easily.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
By the Try-and-Error method: Just play something YOU think you could pass or even fc and if you failed, try it some more times. If you still fail go to the next. Often it happens that the next map feels somehow easier even if it's on a similar Difficulty Level as the previous Map. You only can getting better by failing and trying. This gives you a feeling where you need to work on yourself, what's your problems, how you could solve them, etc etc.
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Play maps you can barely pass, don't just aim for maps you can FC.
Bauxe
1,624 posts
Joined August 2012
Bauxe
Probably the most important point to say.

Don't expect to improve from Hard to Insane overnight. This game is one that takes a LOT of practice. Play songs that are at your boundaries, but don't stick to only a few. It helps to get a few Beatmap Packs and play songs from there. Not only will you find more songs that you enjoy, but you will have a wider range of experience when it comes to different patterns and such.

Also, long breaks will probably ruin your skill a lot. I find myself doing much worse even if I stop for only a few days. So try to keep consistent.

Thats all I really have to say.
Amefuri Koneko
130 posts
Joined April 2010
Amefuri Koneko
Make sure your hardware setup provides 1x1 cursor movement (no acceleration) and you're comfortable overall when playing. Then it's up to your muscle memory, finger speed, reading and tempo sense, which are obviously trained through practice. Playing harder maps is a good advice, but make sure you're not mashing while playing them. Even if you barely keep up with a map try to do patterns the right way, mashing can lead to several bad habits which are extremely problematic to get rid of later on.
Sica
1 post
Joined July 2012
Sica
I got better by playing the fastest maps i could pass ... if i could go back however, i would play maps that are fun and at the higher end of my speed level and try to get very good at accuracy. Then i would gradually work up.
HeathenHammer
3 posts
Joined November 2012
HeathenHammer
Play a lot of different beatmaps that you feel you can FC/get high accuracy on. Also having friends play the game helped me improve a lot because i consistently want to beat their scores. Rivalry seems to be the best motivation for me.
NAGISACHAn_old
13 posts
Joined December 2010
NAGISACHAn_old

Ami Furi Koneko wrote:

Make sure your hardware setup provides 1x1 cursor movement (no acceleration) and you're comfortable overall when playing. Then it's up to your muscle memory, finger speed, reading and tempo sense, which are obviously trained through practice. Playing harder maps is a good advice, but make sure you're not mashing while playing them. Even if you barely keep up with a map try to do patterns the right way, mashing can lead to several bad habits which are extremely problematic to get rid of later on.
What he said
<---- Masher
Went for speed before acc now i avg 80 acc on everything even slower songs.
Also i did the misstake of playing lots of HR/AR10 songs as i thought it would improve my reading but my reading got worse.
Play lots of maps, slow and fast. High and low AR. Give it time.
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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Laharl
1,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Laharl

Stefan wrote:

By the Try-and-Error method: Just play something YOU think you could pass or even fc and if you failed, try it some more times. If you still fail go to the next. Often it happens that the next map feels somehow easier even if it's on a similar Difficulty Level as the previous Map. You only can getting better by failing and trying. This gives you a feeling where you need to work on yourself, what's your problems, how you could solve them, etc etc.
Like this.
HeathenHammer
3 posts
Joined November 2012
HeathenHammer

BRBP wrote:

HeathenHammer wrote:

Play a lot of different beatmaps that you feel you can FC/get high accuracy on.
NO
Thread title: " How did you personally get better at Osu!"

That is how i personally got better at osu! so what is there to say no about? I'm not claiming that its the optimal way and i am most certainly not saying one should do this with easy maps, but with the ones that it can be barely done on. It should be rather obvious that playing things you can do in your sleep doesnt help to improve.
enik
276 posts
Joined December 2011
enik

BRBP wrote:

HeathenHammer wrote:
Play a lot of different beatmaps that you feel you can FC/get high accuracy on.

NO
Yes.
Play everything is the best advice you can get. Maps you can't pass, can barely pass, pass with high and very high accuracy, DT on low diffs and harder ones, hd, hr, different ARs. Everything is important.
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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Pizzicato
2,739 posts
Joined February 2011
Pizzicato
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HeathenHammer
3 posts
Joined November 2012
HeathenHammer

BRBP wrote:

Yes it is. Also you said it like it was an advice instead of "I did this and still suck"

I dont claim to be super pro but i can play the maps that NoJoke claimed to not be able to. I also have a much higher play count than what is shown in my profile due to a lack of Internet for quite a long time. So damn right it was advice as well because it helped me. I dont see how my playcount would make that any less valid anyway.
Mandrias
18 posts
Joined January 2013
Mandrias
Watch someone who is much better play for awhile, follow the mouse movements with yours, learn to read it and see the notes in the order they appear in this much faster map. Go back to your slower maps after about 5-10 minutes, youll be amazed at how much slower it feels than last time. Rather than that, it's all just practice. I only play maps that I'm having a hard time completing (every now and than I play one if I just like the song) and usually look for maps that play on my current weakness.

Personally that's how I have been progressing, and still am progressing.

Also, another thing I noticed, if you played every day for the last 4-5 days, take a break, don'y play tomorrow. Maybe not even the next day. As odd as it sounds I had done this a few times and next time I launched the game everything just felt easier for some reason.
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
momp
i just played a lot and was gradually able to play harder maps. now i'm finally moving on to insane maps...
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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Androgynous
5 posts
Joined April 2013
Androgynous
I'm not amazing even now, but when I started out, I was getting C's every time, and around 75-80% on 1 star songs. One week later, I've started doing 3-4 star songs and my accuracy only just recently got to 90%. It's not an amazing success story, but I'm happy with the progress I've recently made.

Turns out switching to Z and X after using the mouse buttons helped out tons. So does playing maps that I just barely pass, because it gives you lots of room to improve and more mistakes to learn from.
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

mandrias87 wrote:

Watch someone who is much better play for awhile, follow the mouse movements with yours, learn to read it and see the notes in the order they appear in this much faster map. Go back to your slower maps after about 5-10 minutes, youll be amazed at how much slower it feels than last time. Rather than that, it's all just practice. I only play maps that I'm having a hard time completing (every now and than I play one if I just like the song) and usually look for maps that play on my current weakness.

Personally that's how I have been progressing, and still am progressing.

Also, another thing I noticed, if you played every day for the last 4-5 days, take a break, don'y play tomorrow. Maybe not even the next day. As odd as it sounds I had done this a few times and next time I launched the game everything just felt easier for some reason.
I've done this before, it feels really weird when you actually start playing but your aim does improve for some strange reason though only temporary.
iMirai_old
56 posts
Joined August 2011
iMirai_old
I've once played Counter-Strike for 13 years so I have good ability to aim.
However,I play bad with streams.
I played offline with 20000 playcourt and then I got better with Hard diff.
Then I retried each FullCombo to 99 acc.
Now I can FC some Insane maps :D
-Soba-
374 posts
Joined January 2011
-Soba-
I got better by playing maps I can FC with good acc until I could FC harder maps with good acc. Probably not the most efficient way to progress lol
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
I didn't play the game at all and did the very opposite of what you would call practice, and the following day I woke up as cookiezi.
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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