I believe he means hardware acceleration
Read: the kind you can't turn off (eg. Steelseries Kinzu)
Read: the kind you can't turn off (eg. Steelseries Kinzu)
You also need to consider that you are used to a high DPI. By this I mean the general function of a mouse, when you draw a straight line with a mouse, your hand moves in an arc shape, not a straight line. In gameplay it's a much more complex combination of hand movements. It took quite a while to subconsciously fix the way my hand wanted to arc to the left more as I played, causing my cursor to drift to the bottom left. I tilted my mouse slightly to the right about 5 degrees, and the reverse happened, it drifted to the bottom right.ziin wrote:
Ugh, I need a new mouse.
When playing at 400 DPI, the mouse steadily drifts down I'm assuming because of the mouse acceleration.
I may just go back to 1600 DPI because the acceleration is negligible then.
I realized recently that I'm not moving as much as I did before. It's mostly thanks to balancing the use of wrist and arm in both directions. If I were to use my wrist unevenly, I'd end up hugging my kb or stretching my arm out 45 degrees.RaneFire wrote:
You also need to consider that you are used to a high DPI. By this I mean the general function of a mouse, when you draw a straight line with a mouse, your hand moves in an arc shape, not a straight line. In gameplay it's a much more complex combination of hand movements. It took quite a while to subconsciously fix the way my hand wanted to arc to the left more as I played, causing my cursor to go to the bottom left. I tilted my mouse slightly to the right about 5 degrees, and the reverse happened, it went to the bottom right.ziin wrote:
Ugh, I need a new mouse.
When playing at 400 DPI, the mouse steadily drifts down I'm assuming because of the mouse acceleration.
I may just go back to 1600 DPI because the acceleration is negligible then.
Day9 isn't the perfect example for low DPI preference, since he was only a competitive player in BW, but of course there are many pro who have played bw+sc2 that can vouch for using low DPI.G0r wrote:
While it is true that in SC2 there are players who use DPIs up to 1600, I have personally questioned top level players, and have been told that they use DPIs in the range that I described. Remember, SC2 players come from a background of SC:BW in many cases, and are used to very low resolutions with low DPI settings to get maximum precision from their movements. Also, the benefit of precise movement in an RTS game is just as important as in Osu!, which is why players like Day[9] have publicly said that they use low DPI, and have suggested using hotkeys to compensate for having slower movement speed across the higher resolution screen in SC2, because high DPI is only good for giving you better snap scrolling abilities, which is why some beginning players favor it when they are beginning to practice and get good.excellions wrote:
what makes you think that? a vast amount of players use razer abyssus or the deathadder, which are mice that can reach up to 3500 dpi.
panning around using 1920x1080 resolution with that kind of dpi is really difficult and is just not worth it
for rts games high dpi = better but for rhythm game, like osu, lower dpi = better. i prefer playing osu with 450 dpi and find it funner, while i use 1800 dpi for sc2 since its more optimal
but i agree with the rest of your post
Ranefire is correct, though. Low DPI in SC2 is not necessarily the same as low DPI in Osu! or a shooting game. It's all about what gives you the best control, though, and the best control comes from the lowest usable DPI without sacrificing movement capability.
Also, the DPI capability of a mouse does not really tell you what DPI the player will use. I use a Deathadder, and I use only 800 DPI, despite the ability of the mouse to reach 3500. The reason I use a Deathadder is that it has superior tracking vs. a cheap mouse with 800 DPI, and the difference is very clear to me when I compare it to such a mouse. I also originally wanted the ability to adjust my DPI to find the perfect setting for me. It just so happened to be 800.
I can't argue that 1600 DPI may be optimal for you when playing SC2, but then I don't know what level you play at, and I don't know how you play. For many pros, however, this is higher than they are willing to go. Not all, though. It's certainly within acceptable range for playing the game. Personally I would never confuse my muscle memory by switching DPI between applications. That's just my methodology.
Me too!!!limneosgreen wrote:
i use 1600dpi for osu, lol
i can't understand how you aim with those settingsUtar wrote:
i am confused. i read here that the most of u players play under 1000 dpi. WTF?
sorry, but i cant understand how u can aim on some hard or insane songs. i play on 7/11 on windows, 2x on osu, and 7000 dpi on my mouse D:
is smth wrong with me??
software multipliers make the cursor skip pixels, your osu 4.0x is going to skip more than his 2.0x even if his mouse still moves faster.GoldenWolf wrote:
wtf dude
I tried with 19200 dpi (3200 + osu! x4 + 7/11(assuming 7/11 means x1.5)) and it's totally impossible to aim correctly, it skips like 20 pixels with the tiniest movement I can do
How can you even play with those settings ._.
All hail the best player !!!AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I'm the best player out there and I use 400 dpi/1024x768 playfield
No wonder you aren't a top player.harizcoolboy wrote:
Using high mouse dpi to play well??? don't kidding with me...
i'm maybe not a top player but i have a lot of experience with mouse.
I got a trick for all mouse players here :
1)use fullscreen with same resolution as your computer resolution (it will reduce lags for low-end pc)
2)don't use mouse with high dpi because you can't control it on spinner ( Recommending using 800dpi or below)
3)Buy a mouse that fit with well with your hand (Not too big and not too small)
4)buy a little expensive mouse pad too (really great if you want to make a great spin)
5)when grabbing mouse,move it little way diagonally to left(works great for jumps and spinnings)
6)DON'T EVEN OR EVER TENSE YOUR HAND THAT HOLDING THE MOUSE WHILE PLAYING (That's gonna make your hand really tired and moving not right in order)
7)Disable mouse precision
8)Don't even try playing on netbook (because it will make a very tiny score of spin and has much lags)
that's it... hope that was usefull.you can copy and paste this information everywhere.of course include my name there.
My mouse : A4TECH X7-F2 950dpi
My mouse pad : E-Blue Cobra Size M
My Windows Speed : 6/11
My osu speed! : x1.05
My Resolution : 1024x640 (Fullscreen.I'm a netbook user I hope i get a new laptop sooner)
My playstyle : Mouse and keyboard
Exactly what I was thinking when I read this lolbuny wrote:
No wonder you aren't a top player.harizcoolboy wrote:
Using high mouse dpi to play well??? don't kidding with me...
i'm maybe not a top player but i have a lot of experience with mouse.
I got a trick for all mouse players here :
1)use fullscreen with same resolution as your computer resolution (it will reduce lags for low-end pc)
2)don't use mouse with high dpi because you can't control it on spinner ( Recommending using 800dpi or below)
3)Buy a mouse that fit with well with your hand (Not too big and not too small)
4)buy a little expensive mouse pad too (really great if you want to make a great spin)
5)when grabbing mouse,move it little way diagonally to left(works great for jumps and spinnings)
6)DON'T EVEN OR EVER TENSE YOUR HAND THAT HOLDING THE MOUSE WHILE PLAYING (That's gonna make your hand really tired and moving not right in order)
7)Disable mouse precision
8)Don't even try playing on netbook (because it will make a very tiny score of spin and has much lags)
that's it... hope that was usefull.you can copy and paste this information everywhere.of course include my name there.
My mouse : A4TECH X7-F2 950dpi
My mouse pad : E-Blue Cobra Size M
My Windows Speed : 6/11
My osu speed! : x1.05
My Resolution : 1024x640 (Fullscreen.I'm a netbook user I hope i get a new laptop sooner)
My playstyle : Mouse and keyboard
Play Count: 234B1rd wrote:
I don't really think any sensitivity is worse than any others, it's just about preference; how you hold the mouse/what muscles you use.
I've tested out using 4000dpi even, it wasn't that hard, just had to use fine finger movements instead of large wrist movements.
5)when grabbing mouse,move it little way diagonally to left(works great for jumps and spinnings)what does this even mean
I think he means thissarasseo wrote:
5)when grabbing mouse,move it little way diagonally to left(works great for jumps and spinnings)what does this even mean
i can tell you're not using 6/11Breiz wrote:
I think he means this
hold your mouse like the left line.. am I good at paint?
Yes, it is worth it. You can either lower your dpi slowly, maybe 100 or 200 dpi a day, or just drop completely to a low dpi such as 800 (that is really a medium dpi but it's nice).Ethelon wrote:
I'm definitely not anywhere near the best, but I play at 3600dpi on the Deathadder (1.0x in osu!). I've read stuff about lower dpi giving you more muscle control but I've had a miserable time whenever I've tried to go lower.
Is it worth it to just grind out new muscle memory at a lower dpi? I know that people play at what's comfortable for them, and you don't necessarily just copy the pros to magically be good, but I think there's a legitimate argument here for increased accuracy where I would otherwise hit a wall in the future.