grumd wrote:

Timing check.

Stuff like 00:33:295 (5,6,7) - sounds a bit off, but it's not the timing fault. Just the instruments sometimes don't follow the metronome well. Right timing later, for example, at 00:35:616 (1,2,3,4) - proofs it. Yeah, I had placed 00:37:223 (1,2,3,4,5) using 1/12 snap divisor when first mapping the song
This doesn't need to be changed since the timing is quite static here.

Doubles in kiai like 01:17:208 (2,3) - are a bit early placed. Well, that's again not a timing fault because stuff earlier and later sound fine. Look at 01:22:943 (1) - 01:20:296 (2) - 01:18:531 (4) - they all are fine. Still, all these doubles sound better if placed 1/6 later. I mean, 01:17:208 (2,3) - 01:18:972 (5,6) - 01:24:266 (2,3) - should be probably moved 1/6 forward. Still, the most precise fix for me is to move first note 1/6 later and second note 1/12 later, but that is kinda too much... 1/6 everywhere could be enough. Ask someone else about these doubles for a double-check. I had originally snapped these double using 1/3 snap divisor, so basically placing them 1/6 later as you suggest, because a lot of notes are placed on 1/3 beats during this moment, but the music sheet says they should be on 1/2 beats so I changed it. Gonna do more testing with this :/

Also, while I'm here, I have to say that 01:28:825 (1,2,3) - is too hard to read. Replace last two circles with a single slider.
You should add more sliders generally. As well as here: 01:30:870 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) -
Timing changes are unexpectable, so placing sliders to make it clear is a good idea. Ok

Also this one: 01:31:417 (3) - should probably be moved 1/12 earlier... Timing is fine again because next note is on-spot, but this one is a bit off.

Overall: timing is perfect, but some notes in the music do not follow the metronome good enough. It can be fixed by finding proper beat snapping, like moving 1/12 later or earlier, but that is sometimes not a good solution. 1/12 snapped notes are hard to play, so using a static beat snapping is always better. Still, there are some ways to make the timing good and not to hurt the gameplay. You may try it, for example here:
01:30:870 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here, I did suggest to move first (3) note 1/12 earlier. Also I said that it's a good idea to add sliders. So, if you don't want to make gameplay harder and want to still follow the music perfectly, you can place tricky notes on slider ends. Player doesn't need to press anything on slider ends, so that doesn't hurt gameplay. Try this here:

grumd wrote:

Actually, placing few notes on a 1/12 and adding another red lines for the sake of 1/4 is the same.
As I already said, the best way for such tricky notes is to cover them by sliders, that makes it more readable. Extra timing sections are not needed, timing is perfect.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:31:417 (3) should definitely be smth like 1/12 earlier but I feel like 01:31:012 (2) as well as 01:31:870 (2) are a bit off too. Maybe this timing section is not perfect? Anyway I changed to what you suggested with the sliders

grumd wrote:

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:31:417 (3) should definitely be smth like 1/12 earlier but I feel like 01:31:012 (2) as well as 01:31:870 (2) are a bit off too. Maybe this timing section is not perfect? Anyway I changed to what you suggested with the sliders

Timing is fine since 01:30:870 (1) - and 01:31:727 (1) - sound on-spot. It's just the song being untimeable and non-rhythmic... You can do nothing about it, in any way it would be poorly playable.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - I know it's Easy but this part needs more motion. This is the big dance. This is where Squall gets his shit together and tears up the dance floor. Try using sliders for this whole kiai section. I felt there was smth wrong but I couldnt put the finger on it, definitely feels better with more sliders here. Changed

Soaprman wrote:

Alright, quick recheck.

You still need to change the video offset to 2101ms. Remember to do this in all difficulties.

This, I actually forgot -_- my bad

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - I know it's Easy but this part needs more motion. This is the big dance. This is where Squall gets his shit together and tears up the dance floor. Try using sliders for this whole kiai section. I felt there was smth wrong but I couldnt put the finger on it, definitely feels better with more sliders here. Changed
It doesn't look like you actually changed anything here... same goes for the other difficulties. Not sure if you forgot or decided not to after all, but I still think you should. This is such a great slider song... don't settle for circles!

I uploaded a new version with the kai times patterns unchanged but I still intend to remap as you recommended. Didn't have time to do it well enough yet, when I tried patterns were shitty so I need time to do this well especially since I intend to change it in all three diff as you suggested with more slider speed.

The actual song timing seems about spot-on to me. Even when I set it to OD10, I do pretty well. What you have now is probably about the best you're gonna get.

ok, thank you, I fail at streams too much myself so I never know if my bad accuracy is because of bad play or wrong timings so this kind of feedback is really helpful ^^

Other than this stuff, though, the mapset seems rock-solid to me. Good work!

Yay, thanks!

Betsuto wrote:

Sorry fot late > <"

here !
[Hard]
00:20:106 (8) - add Whistle added
00:20:761 (2) - ^^ ? hmm no
01:28:678 (1,2) - Please fix your beat what's wrong with it? Timing gets a bit funky in this part so I understand your confusion, but this is correctly placed
01:31:012 (2) - add Whistle I assume you meant on the end of it, sounds good, added
01:31:870 (2) - ^^^
01:33:194 (1) - ^^ hmm not this one
01:33:506 (1) - add Finish ? no the music is going all quiet, a fat loud finish would break the poetry xD

[Normal]
Perfect ! thanks

[Easy]
I think ...
It's too hard for Beginning ...
Please take it easy ! You really think so? 1,77 stars, tell me what particular combos/parts you think too hard cauz i don't see it

Your map is good !
<3 Standart

Go for rank !!!!! Good luck

pife1 wrote:

Hi I am not a expert, I am only begining, but here we go.

[Hard]
01:18:237 (1,2,3,4) I think they need to be closer

SuperMoutarde wrote:

pife1 wrote:

Hi I am not a expert, I am only begining, but here we go.

[Hard]
01:18:237 (1,2,3,4) I think they need to be closer

No they don't? this part uses consistent 1.0 dist snap, don't see why I would change these oO

Faust wrote:

Hello.

Timing:

SPOILER

183.00 BPM - 18,139
51.252 BPM - 21,417
168.00 BPM - 22,581
167.50 BPM - 71,866
148.00 BPM - 72,940
109.00 BPM - 76,183
124.00 BPM - 76,377
204,00 BPM - 77,363
204.25 BPM - 82,951
209.00 BPM - 87,357
203.00 BPM - 89,079
205.00 BPM - 90,852
202.00 BPM - 91,876
120.00 BPM - 92,321
192.50 BPM - 92,571
105.25 BPM - 93,506
183.00 BPM - 94,646
102.00 BPM - 101,859
168.00 BPM - 103,035

Yup.

1. OD-1 is better. this song is many BPM changes so difficulty.
   　
2. 00:45:884 - add note. i can hear sound here.
   
   
   　
   Hit sound
3. 00:22:581 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
4. 00:23:652 (3) - ^
   　
5. 00:25:080 (2) - add whistle
   　
6. 00:26:152 (2) - ^
   　
7. 00:26:866 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
8. 00:27:580 (3) - add whistle
   　
9. 00:27:938 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
10. 00:29:366 (3,4) - add whistle
    　
11. 00:31:152 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
12. 00:31:688 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
    　
13. 00:32:223 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
14. 00:33:652 (7) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
15. 00:34:545 (1,2,3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
16. 00:40:080 (2) - ^
    　
17. 00:40:438 (3) - add whistle
    　
18. 00:41:509 (1) - ^
    　
19. 00:42:580 (2) - ^
    　
20. 00:43:652 (2) - ^
    　
21. 00:44:723 (2) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
22. 00:49:723 (4,6) - add whistle
    　
23. 00:50:438 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
24. 00:50:973 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
    　
25. 00:51:509 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
26. 00:52:938 (7) - ^
    　
27. 00:55:438 (4) - add whistle
    　
28. 00:57:223 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
29. 00:58:295 (6) - ^
    　
30. 00:58:652 (7) - add whistle
    　
31. 00:59:366 (2) - ^
    　
32. 00:59:723 (4) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
33. 01:00:795 (1) - ^
    　
34. 01:01:509 (3,4) - ^
    　
35. 01:02:938 (1) - add whistle
    　
36. 01:04:009 (4) - ^
    　
37. 01:05:080 (1) - ^
    　
38. 01:06:152 (4) - ^
    　
39. 01:27:357 (2,4) - ^
    　
40. 01:43:036 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
41. 01:44:107 (3) - ^
    　
42. 01:45:536 (2) - ^
    　
43. 01:47:321 (1) - ^
    　
44. 01:48:036 (3) - add whistle
    　
45. 01:48:393 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
46. 01:49:821 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
47. 01:50:536 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
48. 01:51:607 (2) - ^
    　
49. 01:52:321 (4) - add whistle
    　
50. 01:52:678 (6) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
51. 01:54:107 (3) - add whistle of slider start.

1. Please refer to Mod of the hit sound that I wrote when Mod did Hard.
   　
2. 01:52:142 (3) - suggestion.
   

1. 00:39:723 (1) - slider 4th point move to x:224 y:120
   　
2. 00:45:438 - add something?
   　
3. 01:19:421 (4) - not fit song. 2/1 slider is better.

Guy wrote:

hi~ from my queue
m4m time!

[Hard]

• 
  
  　

1. OD-1 is better. this song is many BPM changes so difficulty.
   　
2. 00:45:884 - add note. i can hear sound here.
   
   
   　
3. [Hit sound]
   SPOILER

   1. 00:22:581 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   2. 00:23:652 (3) - ^
      　
   3. 00:25:080 (2) - add whistle
      　
   4. 00:26:152 (2) - ^
      　
   5. 00:26:866 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   6. 00:27:580 (3) - add whistle
      　
   7. 00:27:938 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   8. 00:29:366 (3,4) - add whistle
      　
   9. 00:31:152 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   10. 00:31:688 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
       　
   11. 00:32:223 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   12. 00:33:652 (7) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   13. 00:34:545 (1,2,3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   14. 00:40:080 (2) - ^
       　
   15. 00:40:438 (3) - add whistle
       　
   16. 00:41:509 (1) - ^
       　
   17. 00:42:580 (2) - ^
       　
   18. 00:43:652 (2) - ^
       　
   19. 00:44:723 (2) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   20. 00:49:723 (4,6) - add whistle
       　
   21. 00:50:438 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   22. 00:50:973 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
       　
   23. 00:51:509 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   24. 00:52:938 (7) - ^
       　
   25. 00:55:438 (4) - add whistle
       　
   26. 00:57:223 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   27. 00:58:295 (6) - ^
       　
   28. 00:58:652 (7) - add whistle
       　
   29. 00:59:366 (2) - ^
       　
   30. 00:59:723 (4) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   31. 01:00:795 (1) - ^
       　
   32. 01:01:509 (3,4) - ^
       　
   33. 01:02:938 (1) - add whistle
       　
   34. 01:04:009 (4) - ^
       　
   35. 01:05:080 (1) - ^
       　
   36. 01:06:152 (4) - ^
       　
   37. 01:27:357 (2,4) - ^
       　
   38. 01:43:036 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   39. 01:44:107 (3) - ^
       　
   40. 01:45:536 (2) - ^
       　
   41. 01:47:321 (1) - ^
       　
   42. 01:48:036 (3) - add whistle
       　
   43. 01:48:393 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   44. 01:49:821 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   45. 01:50:536 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   46. 01:51:607 (2) - ^
       　
   47. 01:52:321 (4) - add whistle
       　
   48. 01:52:678 (6) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   49. 01:54:107 (3) - add whistle of slider start.

[Normal]

• 
  
  　

1. Please refer to Mod of the hit sound that I wrote when Mod did Hard.
   　
2. 01:52:142 (3) - suggestion.
   

[Easy]

• 
  
  　

1. 00:39:723 (1) - slider 4th point move to x:224 y:120
   　
2. 00:45:438 - add something?
   　
3. 01:19:421 (4) - not fit song. 2/1 slider is better.

That's all~
good luck

[Easy]
00:45:438 - add something?

[Hard]
01:27:357 (2,4) - ^

piicrosi wrote:

Tu m'as tellement aidé pour ma map que j'aimerais vraiment faire de même mais bon.. Je peux pas. xD Mais GG, ta map est très belle!
Merci!

Sinon je peux te dire en normal si tu veux de rajouter un clap a 00:35:438 (1) , à la fin du slider, aussi à 00:37:580 (5), toujours à la fin, ainsi qu'à 00:45:438 (4) sur tout le slider.
Met en un aussi à 01:07:938 (2) à la fin et à 01:10:080 (2) - (Si tu trouves ça beau fait en easy et normal ^^)

Pour les hitsounds, t'es tombé à 5 minutes près avant que j'update en changeant énormément les hitsounds :/ Je trouve que les claps sonnent pas bien avec la musique, c'est pour ça que j'en ai pas mis, mais j'ai rajouté plus de whistle.


Et en général baisse le son des 3 derniers objets à 1:53:570 pour la musique Bon ça sert à rien mais bon.. bonne idée, je change

En easy enlève 01:10:080 (2) - et met un slider à 00:57:759 qui dure 2/4 à la place avec un whistle si tu le sens bien :

SPOILER

hmm ça suivrait mieux la musique je suis d'accod mais en Easy je préfère pas trop les brusquer, et avec les whistle ajoutés ça sonne bien comme c'est là je trouve pas ça choquant

Et à 01:06:955 pourquoi pas faire ça ? :

SPOILER

T'as raison il manque plein de notes là, en fait, j'ai changé, pour un stream 1/2

Et écarte un peu 01:12:940 (1,2,3) vu que c'est du hard :3 yep bonne idée, changé

Pour finir fait un peu monter 01:23:244 (2) non je trouve ça bien comme c'est

Voilàà c'est pas très utile mais bon ! xD N'hésites pas n'ajouter des claps à certains endroit comme je te l'ai dis, ça peut être qu'encore mieux ^^

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi, mod time from #modreqs /o/

[General]
Your hitbursts are too traslucent, it would be better if they were solid and opaque.
hmm I like them, though. Will change if more people mention it as an issue

Add "Square Enix" to tags. done
Edit: Remove "final fantasy VIII" from tags as you have it as the source. done

[Easy]
00:42:938 (3,1,2) - This could look better, curves always are nice, try this.

00:42:938 (3) - x:104 y:308
00:43:295 (1) - x:172 y:332
00:43:652 (2) - x:240 y:312

thanks, i does look better ^^ changed

00:47:580 (3,4) - I suggest something like this, looks nice, if you do, remember fix the placement of the objects after this.

changed

00:50:438 - 00:57:938 - The same circular flow can be a bit boring, try changing the direction of the flow here.
true, i did something new

[Normal]
00:20:106 (4) - 1 grid to the left (level 4) to be stacked with 00:18:138 (1)
fixed

00:39:723 - Try one of these rhythm, the one you have can be a bit difficult.


changed for the first one

01:11:866 -


changed for the first one too

01:31:012 - Must delete the uninherited point here.
no, there is bpm change here

[Hard]
Yay, all fun with those streams.
Decrease the AR to 7, following the pace of the song.
I had this before, I think 8 is fine

00:18:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It would be better if the flow were a bit curved.
Did something better, I think

00:45:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Let's improve a bit this along with the stream, make something similar to this.

changed

01:18:245 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing here should be less, it's a bit hard hit a stream like this, but it's up to you.
01:21:774 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:301 (1,2,3,4) - ^
yeah this is on purpose, it was easier before I think it's more fun now, and more dynamic

01:30:852 (1,2,1,2) - The timing here is messed up (also the song itself), I highly recommend replace them with a spinner from 01:30:852 until 01:32:571.
It is indeed, I've been considering this, or a small break because it's the fireworks time in the video so hiding it with a spinner would be a shame. Still, now this part is decently mapped so I'm keeping it for now

Well, that's all from my part, good luck /o/
Thanks a lot for the good advice

Faust wrote:

Here for a recheck.

Anyway, I find that you missed a timing section of 204 BPM at 77,216.
Please remember to do this for all difficulties.

Due to this, you might have to make certain changes etc.

Easy:

- 01:29:179 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

Normal:

- 01:20:598 (2) - Doesn't seem to be snapping to anything. Resnap this.

- 01:27:061 - Unsnapped inherited timing section.

Hard:

- 01:30:998 (2) - Unsnapped slider. As a compromise, end it on the blue tick perhaps.

- 01:45:536 (2) - & - 01:48:036 (3) - Unsnapped notes.

- 01:50:536 (5) - Unsnapped slider as well.

Almost too many, in fact.

All fixed. New vers uploaded. Thanks again!

TMAstraf wrote:

Easy
01:07:580 Maybe Spinner should end here hmm no I like how it is now
01:12:940 A little bit more distance to sliders Why? You think too hard? It's 1,2 DS as the rest of the map

Normal:
01:20:598 Make Slider a little pixel shorter yup fixed

Hard:
01:32:571 - 01:33:506 maybe remove all new combos No, it's meant to announce the fireworks, will change if more people say it's bad

BTW: AWESOME Map! =D Thanks! I'm glad you like it! And thanks for modding too ^^

That's All! =)

1. 00:18:138 (1,2,3) - Since there was no music earlier, it's hard to predict the rhythm and bpm here. My suggestion is to replace these by a repeating slider, this will show the rhythm at once.
2. 00:37:223 (7) - Remove new combo here and add it to 00:37:759 (1) - , right as you did before at 00:34:545 (1) -
3. Also talked via irc about removing last section (to make the ending more natural) and reshaping some parts of the map to make it look prettier.

1. 01:29:079 (5) - Add a whistle, this part lacks of hitsounds.
2. 01:34:646 (1) - Place whistle at the start, remove it from end. The whistle sound in the music starts there.
3. 01:36:613 - Add a whistle here.
4. 01:37:268 - Remove it from here (just same as above)
5. 01:38:580 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - And add whistles at the heads of all these sliders.
6. Don't forget that you should remove ending section in every diff btw.

1. 01:16:733 (1) - This circle should be placed a bit farther to not confuse people. Now this spacing looks too similar to 1-2-3 before. My suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586871
2. 01:18:539 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part looks too monotonous. Replace one or two of these sliders by a pair of circles.
3. 01:43:035 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Here too pls. Oh wait, you was going to remove this last section anyway xD

1. 
2. 
3. Inconsistent kiai time, preview time, red timing sections.

grumd wrote:

Timing and note placement is pretty nice now, got this fine result with my first try :3
Upd: SS on my second try
SS on second try, gg I can't get one because of my bad play at streams xD and good news for timing

A bit of modding, since I'm here. Thanks!

Hard

1. 00:18:138 (1,2,3) - Since there was no music earlier, it's hard to predict the rhythm and bpm here. My suggestion is to replace these by a repeating slider, this will show the rhythm at once. changed
2. 00:37:223 (7) - Remove new combo here and add it to 00:37:759 (1) - , right as you did before at 00:34:545 (1) - ^
3. Also talked via irc about removing last section (to make the ending more natural) and reshaping some parts of the map to make it look prettier. Yep, reshaped all those short streams as you suggested

Normal

1. 01:29:079 (5) - Add a whistle, this part lacks of hitsounds. added, as well as a couple more in this part
2. 01:34:646 (1) - Place whistle at the start, remove it from end. The whistle sound in the music starts there. done
3. 01:36:613 - Add a whistle here.^
4. 01:37:268 - Remove it from here (just same as above)^
5. 01:38:580 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - And add whistles at the heads of all these sliders.^
6. Don't forget that you should remove ending section in every diff btw.yep, done, it's obviously better this way

Easy

1. 01:16:733 (1) - This circle should be placed a bit farther to not confuse people. Now this spacing looks too similar to 1-2-3 before. My suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586871 fixed
2. 01:18:539 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part looks too monotonous. Replace one or two of these sliders by a pair of circles. done
3. 01:43:035 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Here too pls. Oh wait, you was going to remove this last section anyway xD ^^

Oh, and AIBat stuff:

1. 
   fixed
2. 
   fixed
3. Inconsistent kiai time, preview time, red timing sections.
   all fixed

[Ranger] wrote:

sorry for a late
very poor modding
because i can`t find anything

[Hard]
00:44:009 (4) - add finish here? hmm not really a note for finish imo
01:07:580 (6) - ^ added

this map is clear enough
good job

SuperMoutarde wrote:

Cancel wrote:

Sorry, but i don't want to mod this song :/

np, but why even bother posting here, then? meh, whatever

R e d wrote:

hi SuperMoutarde!

the map is great! i like it.

i dont like much the background, but ho well..
about the game play.. all diffs looks great!!!
but i think miss something!!

This is a classical song, so you need more hitsounds volume changes! This will help to get more into de song, and helps get more accuracy too!
my suggestions for hitsounds volume:

00:18:794 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 20%
00:18:958 - Remove Inheriting section
00:19:122 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 25%
00:19:450 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 30%
00:19:778 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 35%
00:20:434 - Remove Inheriting section
00:21:089 - volume 30%
00:21:417 - in 3/4 timming point volume 20%
00:22:581 - 25% volome
00:45:438 - volume 40%


well,i wont do this for all map lol, but i hope you understand what im talking about. Its a small way you can improve your map.
If you do, do that for all diffs try be consistent.

Good luck :3

1. Since you used custom hitcircle skin, so you should add a line "SliderBorder : 255,255,255" in bottom of [Colours] section to prevent skin blending.
   
   Like this

   
2. Border of the hitcircle.png looks messy. Would you make it tidy?
   
3. Seems the video has wrong aspect ratio. It should be 4:3. Yeah, they look squashed. Moreover it has audio stream, which should be removed to reduce osz size.
   
4. Comboburst has unnecessary area transparented. And it should be flipped by horizontally due to her line of sight.
   
   Fixed one

   
   Before

   
   After

   
   
   
5. Offsets : I'm fine with current timings except some of them below.
   01:17:363 - Move this offset to 01:17:657 to count measures correctly.
   01:31:876 - Remove unnecessary offset : The music sounds really weird in this part, but I don't this part as a BPM change.
   01:32:321 - ^
   01:41:859 - Remove unnecessary offset : Since you didn't map after this time, so the last offset affects nothing. Btw BPM is wrong. :p

1. OD 2 : 2-4-6(E-N-H) would make more sense in diff spread imo.

Shulin wrote:

Hey, not gonna make a full mod post right now but I just played this briefly and the mp3 quality is very bad. It's a direct rip from the video right? I can hear the sound effects and everything.

I'd recommend using the CD version without the sound effects and try to find a better quality mp3. If you decide to change then let me know if you're having difficulties finding a new one and I'll help. ^_^

SuperMoutarde wrote:

I assume you've been playing without the video? It's entirely on purpose that there are the sound effects. I do have an "album" version but I think it would be really a shame to not have the sound effects (fireworks at the end, intro before actual music starts, etc). That's why I had to get it directly form the video. I've been trying to find precisely this audio track (with the sound effects) in good quality but I couldn't find one. If it's the only solution, I can use a cut version of the "album" version without sound effects, but that would not be ideal

ykcarrot wrote:

[General]

1. Since you used custom hitcircle skin, so you should add a line "SliderBorder : 255,255,255" in bottom of [Colours] section to prevent skin blending.
   
   Like this

   
   done
   
   
2. Border of the hitcircle.png looks messy. Would you make it tidy?
   
   done, I had not realized this at all, I am not very experienced with these softwares
   
   
3. Seems the video has wrong aspect ratio. It should be 4:3. Yeah, they look squashed. Moreover it has audio stream, which should be removed to reduce osz size.This I didn't fix yet, I need to find out how to change
   
4. Comboburst has unnecessary area transparented. And it should be flipped by horizontally due to her line of sight.
   
   Fixed one

   
   Before

   
   After

   
   fixed I guess, I used your image? I understand the flipping it's much better like this but I'm not sure about the transparency if you can explain more precisely plz i am a bit noob with this
   
5. Offsets : I'm fine with current timings except some of them below. all fixed
   
   SPOILER

   01:17:363 - Move this offset to 01:17:657 to count measures correctly.
   01:31:876 - Remove unnecessary offset : The music sounds really weird in this part, but I don't this part as a BPM change.
   01:32:321 - ^
   01:41:859 - Remove unnecessary offset : Since you didn't map after this time, so the last offset affects nothing. Btw BPM is wrong. :p
   
   
   [Hard]
   
   SPOILER

   00:18:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - (Nazi) Move them right by a grid to be on center.
   00:35:795 (2,4) - This sort of hitsounding pattern was over at previous part. They doesn't fit music, remove those wistles.
   00:37:938 (2,4) - ^
   00:38:652 (5) - Maybe add a repeat? http://puu.sh/1UNeF
   00:47:223 (2) - Remove whistle.(Read mod below)
   00:47:580 (3,4,5) - These beats have higher tone than 00:47:223 (2), I think you'd better add whistles to these three notes to emphasize them.
   00:49:366 (3,4,5,6) - ^
   01:08:652 (1,2) - ^
   01:11:509 (3) - Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft http://puu.sh/1UNsP
   01:11:866 (5) - ^ to head only
   01:12:940 (1) - Remove whistle from head. You didn't add whistle in other diffs.
   all changed
   
   
   [Normal]
   
   SPOILER

   00:35:438 (1) - Remove whistle from tail
   00:36:152 (2) - Remove whistle from head
   00:37:581 (5,6) - Remove whistle from tail / head
   00:42:581 (2) - Hmm.. I've never seen this kind of stacking in this part before. Unstack please.
   00:47:581 (4) - Add whistles to head and repeat arrow.
   00:49:723 (4) - ^
   00:54:723 (2) - Add NC to here, not to previous note.
   01:11:152 (4) - (Tail) Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft. And add whistle.
   01:11:866 (5) - (Head) ^. And add whistle.
   all changed
   
   [Easy]
   
   SPOILER

   1. OD 2 : 2-4-6(E-N-H) would make more sense in diff spread imo.

   00:47:580 (3,5) - Add whistles. Make sure don't add whistle to sliderslide.
   01:09:723 (2) - (Tail) Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft.
   01:11:866 (3) - Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft. And add whistle.
   all changed

ykcarrot wrote:

Just little things


[Hard]
00:30:795 (7) - Remove finish, there is nothing very emphasized in the music. done
01:32:571 (1,1,1,1) - Ahaa, seems just NC spamming. There is not firework :3 ahah ok firework didn't begin yet here xD, done


[Normal]
00:45:438 (4) - Add whistles to every point done


[Easy]
00:29:009 (3) - Remove finish from tail, there is nothing very emphasized in the music. done
01:34:646 (1,2) - Since those two slider are mirrored, I think you'd better rearrange them to be symmetry. done. I copy pasted first one, then flip vertically and inverse selection (on the pasted one), is that ok or did you mean the shape is bad?


No kds.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

ykcarrot wrote:

[Easy]
01:34:646 (1,2) - Since those two slider are mirrored, I think you'd better rearrange them to be symmetry. done. I copy pasted first one, then flip vertically and inverse selection (on the pasted one), is that ok or did you mean the shape is bad?

120,192,94646,6,0,P|192:304|256:112|320:304|392:192,1,299.999999999999,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
392,120,96613,2,0,P|320:8|256:200|192:8|120:120,1,299.999999999999,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

Faust wrote:

Making mistakes while attempting timing on this has been so frequent for me I think it's a curse by now.
I go back to my earlier post here and find out I provided a 51.252 BPM which is pretty off, and at this point I can't tell if that's just my typo or really the timing I settled with and gave you at that particular moment of time.
Thankfully, it doesn't implicate the map a lot.

51.53 BPM at 21,417.

Ensures the timing section at - 00:22:581 (1) - is snapped.

Why did you delete the rest of the map after - 01:41:859 - though ?
I thought it had some pretty great stuff.

Please don't give kudosu for this post.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

I believe it was grumd's advice

Faust wrote:

51.53 BPM at 21,417.

Faust wrote:

Uh.

Waiting on the results to come in. Also, I don't really have time to discuss things with lolcubes until 2 days later so anything for that will have to wait.

lolcubes wrote:

It's been a week (actually 10 days) so recheck time. Sadly Lybydose couldn't check this but eh, I rechecked it now anyway.

Timing:
01:23:832 - Remove this red section, 204 bpm is too slow here and 205 seems to work best.
01:27:344 - Move everything from here onwards (including this) by -16, except for 01:34:657 and others (includes green lines too)
After you do all this, select everything and apply -8 offset to absolutely everything. Be careful how you resnap, the offset seems late to me.

This should be it. I can rebubble afterwards as the set looks nice. Sorry for the trouble and that you had to wait for so long, I was very tired when I checked the timing the first time and didn't spend so much on it, with those fixes it should be flawless.

SPOILER

15:52 SuperMoutarde: if you listen to 25% with metronome clic
15:52 SuperMoutarde: it doesnt work
15:52 lolcubes: its good enough
15:52 SuperMoutarde: ok
15:52 lolcubes: that spot isn't mapped
15:52 lolcubes: so approximation is fine
15:52 SuperMoutarde: indeed
15:52 lolcubes: i am still trying to figure out these doubles
15:52 lolcubes: it's like
15:52 lolcubes: there is no sudden sound
15:53 lolcubes: so it affects everything between 1/4 and 1/3 ticks
15:53 lolcubes: and if the timing is off even by a very little bit
15:53 lolcubes: its easy to make a mistake
15:53 SuperMoutarde: yup
15:53 SuperMoutarde: bpm changes and 1/3 notes already make it pretty easy to fail for me anyway xD
15:53 lolcubes: well i could SS it before but my mistimed hits rose from 2% to 15% in the kiai
15:53 lolcubes: and ended up with ~10% xD
15:54 SuperMoutarde: yeah but it's hard to say how much of is due to this part being harder, and how much is due to mistiming
15:54 lolcubes: also the horn is indeed early at 01:17:022 -
15:54 lolcubes: and thats because its at 01:16:948 - hehe
15:54 lolcubes: if you check the other ticks in this whole section
15:54 lolcubes: its intentionally early
15:55 SuperMoutarde: oh yeah you're righ it s on blue tick
15:55 lolcubes: but yeah
15:55 lolcubes: if you listen to the rhythm closely
15:55 lolcubes: this may not be 204 after all
15:56 lolcubes: and the upcoming 204 is wrong
15:56 lolcubes: it does fit the melody
15:56 lolcubes: but it doesn't match the rhythm background
15:56 SuperMoutarde: this is so weird
15:57 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - try 195 bpm here
15:57 SuperMoutarde: the strangest thing happenned to me when playing FF8 on emulator, btw : the emulator crashed during this scene at the exact moment of the 204 BPM change, and the song kept playing over and over but with the 204 bpm being slowed to 168
15:57 lolcubes: and remove the upcoming 204
15:57 lolcubes: heh
15:57 lolcubes: you can directly rip the vid from the pc version though
15:57 lolcubes: its in rad video format
15:58 lolcubes: xd
15:58 SuperMoutarde: I didn't know about the PC version until you told me about it today xD
15:59 lolcubes: ill brb
16:01 SuperMoutarde: ok, i pu 195
16:01 SuperMoutarde: put
16:05 lolcubes: 01:22:946 (1,2,3) - why no whistles?
16:11 lolcubes: think i got this timing right now
16:11 lolcubes: im getting below 10% mistimed now
16:11 SuperMoutarde: yay, with what you told me, or did you make more changes?
16:11 lolcubes: more changes
16:11 lolcubes: very simple ones
16:11 SuperMoutarde:
16:12 SuperMoutarde: do I have the right to kudos you again since it's been a week since last time you helped?
16:12 lolcubes: no
16:13 lolcubes: usually kudosu = modpost
16:13 lolcubes: thats about it
16:13 SuperMoutarde: ok
16:13 lolcubes: this is just finishing the post from before
16:13 lolcubes: cause it was incorrect
16:13 SuperMoutarde: yeah but you take so much time
16:13 SuperMoutarde: compared to lazy mods who run AIBat and say the map looks too good for them to mod
16:13 SuperMoutarde: and stille arn their kudosu
16:13 lolcubes: i know right
16:13 lolcubes: i don't even use that
16:13 lolcubes: i simply refuse to
16:14 lolcubes: though 95% of the team uses it <_<
16:14 SuperMoutarde: well I do, cauz it helps, but I also mod it myself
16:14 lolcubes: i rather make a human mistake and be responsible for it
16:14 lolcubes: but still retain my ability to mod properly
16:14 lolcubes: than get lazy and do all that
16:14 lolcubes: and then go "oh but ai bat is outdated" or w/e
16:15 SuperMoutarde: so many lazy modders that when someone is really helpful I want them to be rewarded ^^
16:15 SuperMoutarde: aibat is still a plus
16:15 SuperMoutarde: like for skin dimensions and shit
16:15 lolcubes: its handy for certain things
16:15 lolcubes: which may be time wasting for a human to check
16:15 SuperMoutarde: snapping too
16:15 lolcubes: i still prefer to take extra time to do it myself too
16:15 lolcubes: snapping checker is already built into the game
16:16 SuperMoutarde: but doesnt work too well
16:16 lolcubes: it does
16:16 lolcubes: it snaps to below 1ms precision
16:16 SuperMoutarde: it didnt tell me that I had unsnapped notes when I actually still had
16:16 lolcubes: ...thats good enough :/
16:16 SuperMoutarde: and AIBat pointed out what the normal AIMod didnt see
16:16 SuperMoutarde: but this was 1ms errors
16:17 lolcubes: you know why it does that?
16:17 lolcubes: because they are not always errors
16:17 lolcubes: the thing is
16:17 lolcubes: when you have many red sections
16:17 lolcubes: what AIBat doesn't know is
16:17 lolcubes: for some reason due to mathematical errors
16:17 lolcubes: timeline IS actually 1ms off
16:17 SuperMoutarde: oO
16:17 SuperMoutarde: that explains a lot
16:17 lolcubes: so when you have a super handy bpm lets say 180
16:17 lolcubes: and you put it somewhere
16:18 lolcubes: after a while
16:18 lolcubes: you will notice ticks get 1ms off sometimes
16:18 lolcubes: not always, but sometimes
16:18 lolcubes: while aibat is just pure rounded math
16:18 lolcubes: in the end it doesn't really make a difference
16:18 SuperMoutarde: i got this problem exactly with this map many times
16:18 lolcubes: but it happens
16:19 SuperMoutarde: as you say it's only 1ms difference so not a big deal anyway, but I couldn't understand why it did that even if I checked the option to resnap notes on new timing
16:19 SuperMoutarde: as you say it's only 1ms difference so not a big deal anyway, but I couldn't understand why it did that even if I checked the option to resnap notes on new timing
16:19 lolcubes: this is also when you have weird bpms
16:19 lolcubes: like you had
16:20 lolcubes: 53.420 or w/e it was
16:20 lolcubes: hehe
16:20 lolcubes: because the game rounds it up to 1ms
16:20 lolcubes: while aibat still doesn't
16:20 SuperMoutarde: wait, did you tell me your additional timing changes or not?
16:20 lolcubes: no
16:20 lolcubes: im still building it
16:20 lolcubes: there are some minor things
16:20 SuperMoutarde: oh ok ^^
16:20 lolcubes: which make it go whack
16:23 lolcubes: 01:26:356 (5) - this note is a bit awkward
16:23 lolcubes: i believe this one is actually on a 1/4 tick
16:23 lolcubes: sigh, this song
16:23 lolcubes: 1/2 tick i mean
16:23 lolcubes: if thats the case
16:23 lolcubes: i would recommend a short slider lol
16:24 SuperMoutarde: hmm it doesn't sound like it should be on blue tick to me (i mean in terms of the music sheet)
16:24 lolcubes: not bllue
16:24 lolcubes: red
16:25 SuperMoutarde: you sure?
16:25 lolcubes: it does sound like it to me
16:26 SuperMoutarde: it's on white tick in the music sheet I believe
16:26 lolcubes: yeah well
16:26 lolcubes: wait what
16:26 lolcubes: white?
16:27 lolcubes: the note 5
16:27 lolcubes: is currently on a 1/3 tick
16:27 SuperMoutarde: ooo
16:27 SuperMoutarde: lol
16:27 SuperMoutarde: my bad
16:27 SuperMoutarde: i was looking at 01:27:336 (1) the whole time
16:27 lolcubes: 6 is on the downbeat yes
16:27 lolcubes: thats correct
16:27 lolcubes: hehe
16:28 lolcubes: 01:26:307 (5) - yeah im positive this should be here lol
16:28 lolcubes: on the 1/2 tick
16:29 SuperMoutarde: yeah definitely
16:29 SuperMoutarde: an error that occured when changing timing
16:29 SuperMoutarde: i had this on red tick the whole time
16:30 SuperMoutarde: well it's 311 for me but i assume it's because you made adjustment to the offset
16:30 lolcubes: more like bpm
16:30 lolcubes: hehe
16:30 SuperMoutarde: ^^
16:30 lolcubes: there is a simple logic here
16:30 lolcubes: so that 209 bpm you have
16:30 lolcubes: should be 208
16:30 lolcubes: but it should come earlier
16:31 SuperMoutarde: k
16:31 lolcubes: there is a pretty obvious pattern here
16:31 lolcubes: dont change yet though
16:31 lolcubes: cause there are some new stuff here
16:31 lolcubes: currently its an offset battle
16:31 lolcubes: i think i got the bpms down
16:31 SuperMoutarde: ahah an offset battle xD
16:31 SuperMoutarde: brb in 5minuts
16:34 lolcubes: ok
16:34 lolcubes: its perfect now
16:34 lolcubes: just say when you're back
16:34 lolcubes: this is working very nicely
16:42 SuperMoutarde: here i am
16:42 lolcubes: im just fine tuning the end
16:42 lolcubes: cause the end breaks with the current timing
16:42 lolcubes: but it looks much more clean now
16:42 SuperMoutarde:
16:46 lolcubes: lets use this
16:46 lolcubes: i almost SSd with od8
16:46 lolcubes: ok so
16:46 SuperMoutarde: clean result
16:46 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - 195 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: 01:17:652 - 204 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: 01:19:416 - 205 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: argh just one moment i need to solve one thing fast
16:48 lolcubes: 01:22:933 - 208 bpm
16:48 SuperMoutarde: are you suggesting to remove offset 77211 204 BPM?
16:48 lolcubes: yes
16:48 SuperMoutarde: ok
16:50 lolcubes: 01:22:928 - 208 bpm, which means the above 208 i wrote
16:50 lolcubes: move by -5
16:50 SuperMoutarde: k
16:51 lolcubes: one sec
16:51 lolcubes: wtf
16:51 lolcubes: my timing sections bugged
16:51 lolcubes: what am i doing
16:51 SuperMoutarde: lolol
16:51 SuperMoutarde: Sorry for putting you in such trouble xD
16:51 lolcubes: i had like
16:52 lolcubes: 2 sections on top of each other
16:52 lolcubes: so the lower bpm counted
16:52 lolcubes: argh
16:52 SuperMoutarde: lulz
16:52 lolcubes: now this is wrong lol
16:52 SuperMoutarde: which one was it?
16:52 lolcubes: the 208
16:52 SuperMoutarde: k
16:52 lolcubes: there is no 208
16:52 lolcubes: just remove
16:53 SuperMoutarde: so this should be on the 205 right?
16:53 lolcubes: from before? yes
16:53 SuperMoutarde: k
16:53 lolcubes: jesus what is wrong with this game
16:53 lolcubes: its already up to 900MB of ram
16:53 SuperMoutarde: oO
16:54 SuperMoutarde: lol, crash?
16:54 lolcubes: yes
16:54 lolcubes: lol
16:54 SuperMoutarde: editor makes my laptot overheat too
16:54 SuperMoutarde: laptopµ
16:54 lolcubes: well
16:54 lolcubes: the latest update
16:54 lolcubes: my osu is usually around 300~400
16:54 lolcubes: but latest update makes it go 900~1gb
16:54 lolcubes: and then crash
16:54 SuperMoutarde: wth
16:54 lolcubes: idk why
16:55 lolcubes: also the hitsounds started bugging for me again
16:55 lolcubes: cause xonar is a bullshit card for this game
16:55 lolcubes: that was fixed at some point
16:55 lolcubes: but now its unfixed
16:55 lolcubes: :/
16:55 SuperMoutarde: it was pretty minor update from the look of it
16:55 SuperMoutarde: that' s weird
17:00 lolcubes: yes this works
17:00 lolcubes: fixed it
17:00 lolcubes: ok so
17:01 lolcubes: ill just repeat
17:01 SuperMoutarde: ok,done. is it correct that the 205 bpm section goes from 79416 to 87336?
17:01 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - 195
17:01 lolcubes: 01:17:652 - 204
17:01 lolcubes: 01:19:416 - 205
17:01 SuperMoutarde: all these: done
17:01 lolcubes: 01:23:806 - 204
17:02 lolcubes: 01:26:453 - 205
17:03 lolcubes: 01:27:331 - 208
17:03 lolcubes: 01:28:196 - 205
17:03 lolcubes: 01:29:074 - 202
17:03 lolcubes: 01:30:856 - 205
17:04 lolcubes: 01:31:734 - 202
17:04 lolcubes: remove the rest
17:04 lolcubes: now there are a few special things to know
17:04 lolcubes: which you didn't originally do
17:04 lolcubes: and that is why people went to really silly timing values, including myself
17:05 lolcubes: 01:31:051 (2) - this slider here actually starts on a 1/3 tick
17:05 lolcubes: and ends on 01:31:441 - (you need 1/6 snap for this)
17:05 lolcubes: 01:31:932 (2) - same with this one here
17:05 lolcubes: starts on 1/3 ends on 01:32:328 - (also 1/6 snap cause 1/3 and 1/2 together make 1/6 else slider goes derp)
17:06 SuperMoutarde: oh ok, nice catch
17:13 lolcubes: you here?
17:13 lolcubes: my connection died for a minute haha
17:15 SuperMoutarde: i am here
17:15 SuperMoutarde: i am fixing the slider starting on 1/3 beat
17:15 lolcubes: okay
17:15 SuperMoutarde: sliders*
17:15 lolcubes: there are a few tricks we will include into the maps as well
17:15 lolcubes: so the video plays until the end
17:15 SuperMoutarde: how to?
17:15 lolcubes: tell me when you're done fixing
17:15 lolcubes: and update
17:15 lolcubes: so i can recheck
17:15 lolcubes: its a simple trick ill tell you after you fix stuff
17:15 lolcubes: we will do that at the end
17:16 SuperMoutarde: alright
17:17 SuperMoutarde: you meant I should place the beginning of the sliders on the 1/3 beat that is before its previous starting point, right?
17:18 SuperMoutarde: or after?
17:18 lolcubes: just link me the slider
17:18 lolcubes: ill tell you where to start
17:18 lolcubes: and where to end
17:18 lolcubes: its most simple
17:18 SuperMoutarde: 01:30:953 (2) -
17:19 lolcubes: 01:31:051 - this tick here
17:19 lolcubes: ends on 01:31:441 -
17:20 SuperMoutarde: ok, i knew i was wrong xD
17:20 lolcubes: the other slider should start on 01:31:932 - and end on 01:32:328 -
17:20 lolcubes: just one thing
17:20 lolcubes: i made one small adjustment to the timing here
17:20 lolcubes: sorry for not telling you
17:21 lolcubes: this 202 bpm 01:31:734 -
17:21 lolcubes: 01:32:612 - goes here
17:21 lolcubes: so the final 4 notes come a bit earlier
17:21 lolcubes: cause they were late
17:21 lolcubes: so the section until 01:32:612 - is still 205 bpm
17:21 lolcubes: which is at 01:30:856 -
17:21 SuperMoutarde: i move the offset to 01:32:612, correct?
17:22 lolcubes: on that 202 bpm, yes
17:22 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:24 SuperMoutarde: wait, what happpens to the 195 bpm section then
17:24 lolcubes: poof
17:24 lolcubes:
17:24 lolcubes: doesn't exist
17:24 SuperMoutarde: lol ok
17:26 SuperMoutarde: ok i did all, let me just check i didnt fuck up the snapping, and apply to all diff
17:27 lolcubes: yeah and then update
17:28 lolcubes: cause i have some hitsound suggestions hehe
17:28 lolcubes: i didnt even check other diffs yet
17:28 SuperMoutarde: well they re the same but easier
17:28 SuperMoutarde: xD
17:38 lolcubes: fixed all?
17:38 SuperMoutarde: i m applying on normal and easy, gotta fix the green sections and stuff, sorry for slow :/
17:39 lolcubes: oh no worries
17:39 lolcubes: was afk
17:47 lolcubes: gonna afk a bit again
17:47 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:47 SuperMoutarde: i m almostdone though
17:47 lolcubes: just let me know when you're done
17:47 SuperMoutarde: k
17:55 SuperMoutarde: I uploaded new version!
17:57 lolcubes: ok in hard
17:57 lolcubes: 01:30:559 (6,7,1,2) - you should rethink this pattern
17:58 lolcubes: it does look ugly :p
17:58 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:58 lolcubes: ill just drop off some suggestions
17:58 SuperMoutarde: you will have to accept the kudos at some point xD
17:59 lolcubes: 01:27:619 (4,5) - whistles at these
17:59 lolcubes: because of the melody
17:59 lolcubes: highlights
17:59 lolcubes: haha sure why not, at this point hehe
17:59 lolcubes: 01:28:927 (2,3,4) - same here, consider soft whistles
17:59 lolcubes: but only on the slider end
17:59 lolcubes: and circles 34
18:00 SuperMoutarde: then it would be good to also add whistle on start of 01:29:965 (5) don't you think?
18:01 lolcubes: oh yeah
18:01 lolcubes: i missed it
18:01 lolcubes: my bad
18:01 SuperMoutarde: ^^
18:01 lolcubes: 01:17:189 (2) - this should be on a 1/3 tick at 01:17:189 (2) -
18:02 lolcubes: wait what
18:02 SuperMoutarde: lolz
18:02 lolcubes: 01:17:240 -
18:02 lolcubes: here
18:02 lolcubes: 01:18:975 (5) - this one should be on a 1/3 tick at 01:19:024 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:22:489 (5) - on 01:22:537 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:24:247 (2) - on 01:24:296 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (5) - this one is correct
18:03 lolcubes: leave this one alone :p
18:03 lolcubes: but
18:03 lolcubes: instead of 2 stacking circles
18:03 lolcubes: you should consider using a slider
18:03 SuperMoutarde: well, are you sure? because i had mapped like this at first (mainly because my timing was wrong anyway) but after I look at the music sheet, I saw all these doubles are supposed to be on 1/2
18:03 SuperMoutarde: well, are you sure? because i had mapped like this at first (mainly because my timing was wrong anyway) but after I look at the music sheet, I saw all these doubles are supposed to be on 1/2
18:03 lolcubes: well
18:03 lolcubes: waltz is supposed to be mapped on the white ticks too?
18:03 lolcubes: i mean
18:03 lolcubes: played
18:03 lolcubes: but its improvised a little
18:03 lolcubes: so its on 1/3 ticks
18:03 lolcubes: right?
18:04 SuperMoutarde: You know better than I do ^^
18:05 lolcubes: its not really about knowing
18:05 lolcubes: its more about listening hehe
18:06 lolcubes: just when you do those fixes update so i check em again :p
18:06 lolcubes: still have to check other diffs too but i wanna get this one out of the way
18:06 SuperMoutarde: ok, i am doing the changes in all diff already, though ^ ^
18:13 SuperMoutarde: all done and updated!
18:20 lolcubes: in normal
18:20 lolcubes: 00:54:001 (7) - this finish here
18:20 lolcubes: sounds a bit odd
18:20 lolcubes: you have whistles on 00:54:001 (7,8) - in hard
18:20 lolcubes: do the same here?
18:21 SuperMoutarde: fixed
18:21 SuperMoutarde: i had a finish there in hard originally, forgot to change normal when i changed hard
18:21 lolcubes: hm
18:21 lolcubes: if possible
18:21 lolcubes: would you mind changing the logic of the objects in normal?
18:21 lolcubes: for example
18:21 lolcubes: 01:16:728 (1,2) -
18:21 lolcubes: i don't think this would work for a normal
18:22 SuperMoutarde: what would you suggest?
18:22 lolcubes: simply because the starting point is the heavy point
18:22 lolcubes: i would sugest a circle at the start
18:22 lolcubes: and a short slider for the 2 1/3 notes
18:22 lolcubes: for pretty much all occurences of such rhythms here
18:22 SuperMoutarde: ok
18:22 lolcubes: 01:18:240 (3) - this is ok
18:22 lolcubes: but those 2 circles are not
18:22 lolcubes: they are too hard
18:22 lolcubes: should be one small slider
18:22 SuperMoutarde: alright
18:23 lolcubes: 01:23:367 (1) - this feels off and really weird
18:23 lolcubes: rather map the downbeat at 01:22:928 -
18:23 lolcubes: and then a circle at 01:23:806 -
18:23 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (6,7) - this should also be a slider cause it wouldn't really be readable though, it probably would but best to avoid any confusion
18:24 lolcubes: it's a normal after all
18:24 lolcubes: 01:28:052 (3,4) - should have whistles too :p
18:24 lolcubes: but the slider 4 should have it on the start, not end
18:24 lolcubes: sounds a bit weird on end cause there are no notes before it
18:24 SuperMoutarde: hmm i m not a fan of changing the slider start on 01:22:928 i like it better as it is now :/
18:25 lolcubes: well
18:25 lolcubes: its certainly misplaced though
18:25 SuperMoutarde: why?
18:25 SuperMoutarde: it s same as in hard
18:25 SuperMoutarde: it follows music well imo
18:25 lolcubes: 01:23:367 (1) - ?
18:25 lolcubes: you have 4 circles here in hard
18:25 lolcubes: o_o
18:26 lolcubes: wait
18:26 lolcubes: uh
18:26 lolcubes: you have nothing here in normal
18:26 lolcubes: 01:22:928 -
18:26 lolcubes: on this tick
18:26 lolcubes: you have 4 circles on hard
18:26 SuperMoutarde: yeah definitely not like in hard, actually, my bad
18:26 SuperMoutarde: lol
18:26 lolcubes: 01:23:367 - this is a wrong place to start the slider because it creates a rhythm on this tick
18:26 lolcubes: which is nonexistant in the music hehe
18:26 SuperMoutarde: ok
18:26 lolcubes: should be either of the white ticks, preferrably downbeat or the 2nd small one
18:26 lolcubes: if you want to keep it its fine
18:27 lolcubes: just make sure it starts on 01:23:513 - then
18:27 lolcubes: as a "lead in" towards the next section
18:27 SuperMoutarde: but wait 01:23:367 is not nonexistant in the music
18:27 SuperMoutarde: or my ears are betraying me big time
18:27 lolcubes: dont delete the - at the end
18:28 lolcubes: i can't click the link then
18:28 lolcubes: :/
18:28 SuperMoutarde: 01:23:367
18:28 SuperMoutarde: still the same
18:28 lolcubes: not getting a link
18:28 SuperMoutarde: wtf
18:28 lolcubes: do you know how to get links?
18:28 SuperMoutarde: 01:23:367 (1) -
18:28 lolcubes: you press ctrl+c on the timeline
18:28 SuperMoutarde: here u go ^^
18:28 lolcubes: and just paste it into the chat
18:28 SuperMoutarde: y i know
18:28 lolcubes: yeah i know i understand what it's trying to follow
18:29 lolcubes: the thing it's trying to follow does indeed start with the slider, however it starts silent and comes into a crescendo until the end
18:29 lolcubes: problem is
18:29 lolcubes: slider start creates a rhythm
18:29 lolcubes: which is in between the main rhythm notes
18:29 lolcubes: and causes it to break
18:29 lolcubes: that's why it's so iffy
18:29 SuperMoutarde: i see
18:29 SuperMoutarde: but it sounds weird if i move the start to previous beat though
18:29 lolcubes: move it to 01:23:513 - :p
18:29 lolcubes: it sounds pretty good like this
18:30 SuperMoutarde: yeah that works
18:30 SuperMoutarde: done
18:31 lolcubes: 01:28:052 (3,4) - fixed whistles here?
18:31 SuperMoutarde: yep
18:32 lolcubes: 01:38:583 - you dont have any whistles here in hard, and i like that actually
18:32 lolcubes: these whistles in normal kinda break the consistency of hitsounding you used
18:32 lolcubes: i would suggest to remove them
18:32 lolcubes: 01:41:042 (1,2) - except for these two
18:32 lolcubes: these two are cool
18:33 lolcubes: might want to add them in hard too
18:33 SuperMoutarde: osu is going crazy i have to restart it
18:33 lolcubes: sure
18:33 SuperMoutarde: how can i keep the chat log?
18:33 lolcubes: /savelog
18:37 SuperMoutarde: alright, I changed the whistles in the end as you suggested in normal and hard
18:38 lolcubes: update please
18:38 lolcubes: sorry im kinda demanding hehe
18:38 SuperMoutarde: done
18:38 SuperMoutarde: oh wait
18:39 lolcubes: something broke
18:39 lolcubes: cant enter edit
18:39 lolcubes: lol
18:39 lolcubes: ill restart
18:39 SuperMoutarde: i didnt change the patterns that you said are too hard in normal yet
18:39 SuperMoutarde: i still have to change the patterns in normal for the doubles, actually, forgot to fix that
18:39 lolcubes: okay
18:45 lolcubes: in easy there is only one thing i think you should change
18:45 SuperMoutarde: you think i can keep 01:26:306 (5,6) as it is since it's 1/2?
18:45 SuperMoutarde: shit
18:45 SuperMoutarde: 01:26:306 (5,6) -
18:45 lolcubes: two actually
18:45 lolcubes: its better ot make them a slider too
18:45 SuperMoutarde: k
18:45 lolcubes: since they are a slider in hard
18:45 SuperMoutarde: ahah true ^^
18:45 lolcubes: awkward song choice, not much you can do about it heh
18:47 SuperMoutarde: hehe, not as awkward as my new map though, it has to challenging for it to be fun ^^
18:47 SuperMoutarde: what are the changes for Easy?
18:47 lolcubes: 01:20:294 (5) - new combo here
18:47 lolcubes: 01:28:196 (2) - and this note here
18:47 lolcubes: i am not sure about this one
18:47 lolcubes: the rhythm it creates is constant
18:47 lolcubes: while the music doesn't suggest that
18:47 lolcubes: moving it to 01:28:488 - does sound better but i dunno
18:48 lolcubes: i would recomment that at least
18:48 lolcubes: maybe even add something to 01:28:781 -
18:48 lolcubes: so its less confusing lol
18:48 lolcubes: http://puu.sh/22ZOt/4dd4eef324 like this
18:48 lolcubes: a short slider
18:49 SuperMoutarde: k
18:49 lolcubes: flows better too
18:49 SuperMoutarde: yeah i know what you mean, it was a bit weird
18:50 SuperMoutarde: ok, done
18:51 lolcubes: update again so i can check the whole thing
18:51 SuperMoutarde: done
18:54 lolcubes: actually
18:54 lolcubes: in normal
18:54 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (5) -
18:54 lolcubes: i would actually just suggest 1 circle at 01:26:453 -
18:54 lolcubes: that would make the map much more readable
18:54 lolcubes: and this note on the 1/2 tick isn't that important
18:55 lolcubes: because you couldn't follow the complete melody around this area
18:55 lolcubes: losing a note here wouldn't make a huge difference on how it sounds
18:55 lolcubes: but it would make a huge difference in how it plays
18:55 lolcubes: i.e. more simple
18:55 SuperMoutarde: okey
18:56 SuperMoutarde: woops, accidentally added whistle to a whole slider
18:56 lolcubes: 01:28:196 (4) - this one right?
18:56 lolcubes: was about to say hehe
18:57 SuperMoutarde: yeah this one ^^ just fixed it and reuploaded
18:59 lolcubes: right
18:59 lolcubes: lets rebubble this
18:59 lolcubes: ill forward this to a friend so he checks it and maybe ranks it
18:59 SuperMoutarde: Yay!
18:59 SuperMoutarde: thanks a lot!

lolcubes wrote:

I suppose a full log isn't necessary because there is over 2 hours of conversation heh.

Garven wrote:

[General]
Set the artist to 植松 伸夫 and leave the Romanised title as it is now
ok, should I add the romanised name of the artist in tags, then?

[Easy]
00:55:787 (2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern is a little clustery - especially with such huge hit circles. Think you could make it read a little better? fixed
01:15:367 (3,1) - This spacing is way too close fixed

[Hard]
01:15:367 (3) - This would make more sense with your pattern with 1 and 2 if you moved it to here

SPOILER

indeed! fixed
00:18:131 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Compare new combo use to 01:38:583 (1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1) - I recommend not combo spamming q:
Did you play with video or without? There are fireworks at this moment, that's why I spam NC on this, I can change if I have to but I'd prefer to keep it this way if possible changed

lolcubes wrote:

I completely forgot to tell you how to make the vid play until the end.

http://puu.sh/23nJe/815e78b966

Use the above .osb in your map, it's a fake storyboard to force a Skip button at the end. Sorry about that.

Garven wrote:

"Its a moonwalk, its a moonwalk! Head spin~!"

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

Ranked but not ranked ;C

Garven wrote:

Current status: Ranked q:

Deni wrote:

Congrats!

osu! needs more Final Fantasy

Stefan wrote:

Deni wrote:

Congrats!

osu! needs more Final Fantasy

no

Garven wrote:

I'm lazy, but still amused.

Stefan wrote:

Deni wrote:

Congrats!

osu! needs more Final Fantasy

no