CDFA wrote:

Easy:
Tickrate 0.5

CDFA wrote:

Approach Rate -3 or 4 (like srs omg)
00:37:701 (2) - Make this overlap as little as possible
01:33:684 (1,2) - Not the prettiest of sliders.

CDFA wrote:

Normal:
Your sliders. Not bueno. Use 1 sliderpoint so you can use the super helpful slider making tool to make pretty curvy sliders. It helps a lot.
00:45:558 (2) - If you're intending for this to be your normal, thismight be a bit tough.
00:47:701 (2) - ^
01:01:456 - ok break um ok
01:06:986 (2) - Same as earlier
01:09:129 (2) - ^
01:37:618 (5) - Fix the spacing here

CDFA wrote:

Hard:
00:31:274 (4) - Adjust this so it's not overlapping on the slider itself (I'm fine if it overlaps a little bit on the slider end, as long as it is spaced correctly.
01:08:420 (9) - Im personally never a big fan of patterns like this. Move (9) so it flows more in the direction that (7) and (8) were going.
01:09:845 (7,8) - This doesn't really go with the music all that much. Change the notes so it fits the music more. Also, add a new combo on (7)
01:13:242 (2) - Curve this slider much more.
01:14:492 (3) - Curve this slider more. Also, shorten it so the end is on the white tick.
01:24:648 (7) - Fix the spacing so it's the same as the previous notes
01:26:413 (1) - Add finish
01:28:398 - It's generally a bad idea to have breaks during kiai time. Either map it fully or end kiai time here.

CDFA wrote:

Overall:
Hitsounds are incredibly lacking. I know it's a waltz with no real drum track, but still, it feel so empty that I don't want to play it. Maybe add some whistles somewhere. . . When I worked it out, I was naturally putting them on count 2 of every measure, but do whatever sounds best to you.

CDFA wrote:

01:42:101 (1) - End map here.

neonat wrote:

Rinoa
01:14:486 (5) - Move it to 01:14:402, end at 01:15:206
01:15:831 (1) - it's off, it would fit if it was at 01:15:788 You can only get that if you put 1/8, I'm not sure if it is because the timing is not right.
Squall
00:39:849 (5) - Maybe link this with the next circle
00:44:938 - add a circle here
01:14:492 (3) - same problem as in Rinoa difficulty, it is delayed.
01:26:413 (1) - Sounds like it should end at 01:28:141
01:38:274 (1) - off the beat
01:38:602 (2) - not on the beat as well
01:38:929 (3) - not on the beat
01:39:257 (4) - not on the beat
01:39:585 (5) - not on the beat

Overall, I find the tempo of this song very weird and inconsistent to have just one bpm. I listened to it at 50% or 25% speed, many note didn't quite really fit, but I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with this song.

neonat wrote:

01:15:831 (1) - it's off, it would fit if it was at 01:15:788 You can only get that if you put 1/8, I'm not sure if it is because the timing is not right.

1. The correct source is "Final Fantasy VIII" if you can see in Wikipedia
2. Add more tags like "squaresoft, playstation, psx", etc.
3. Well timing is off in my opinion, you should to ask someone to check
4. This map doesn't have Preview time, in my opinion here in 00:45:214 looks nice
5. I don't get why the difficulties have the same name from the characters, my suggestion is rename each one "Easy,Normal and Hard"

• -- This difficulty have a different offest and BPM,183,000/17222 should be
  -- Delphie? I've heard Selphie in the game
  - 00:33:428 (1) - I really prefer to unstack this note to avoid the confusion for newbies players
  - 00:45:214 (3,1) - More spacing between these objects please
  - 01:12:000 (5) - The timing has changed but the slider is unsnapped, this should be end in 01:12:810
  - 01:25:530 (4) - Spacing

• - 00:51:642 (5) - nazi* I suggest to move this slider in another place because is making a overlap with (3)
  - 01:37:627 (5) - New combo if you follow the music
  - 01:53:885 (8) - Delete this slider because you finish the diff here

• - 00:26:523 (2) - Error spacing here?

Kitagami wrote:

Hello~ From in-game M4M request!

If you have any questions about my modding or doubts on how to do something, feel free to send me a forum or in-game PM! I'll gladly help you understand what I meant.

I told you that I'm a slow modder, and I really am! Bu anyways, here we go!

General

Your background size isn't following the Guidelines and the quality is pretty bad too. I tried finding the same background with a better quality, but all the ones I found were even worse! I found this one, though. I recommend you to use it, since the quality is quite better and the size is already correct (I myself resized it).

Also, please don't put it with a name like the actual one "ff8squallrinoa640480dy6", rename it to something like "BG" or "WaltzForTheMoonBG" or anything like that.

I recommend you to use Grid Level 4 (if you're not already using it) and recheck all the spacings... There are some variations here and there... (Like, the spacing is 1.2x but there are some 1.16x or 1.14x)

It took me a long time to check the timing and then, in the end, it was all correct, lol~

Red is unrankable issue
Blue is just suggestion

Delphie

Issues found by using AiMod (CTRL+SHIFT+A)

1. 00:21:634 (1) - Unsnapped note.
2. 00:43:423 (4) - Unsnapped note.
3. 00:55:923 (3) - Unsnapped note.
4. 00:59:137 (2) - Unsnapped note.
5. 01:00:209 (1) - Unsnapped note.
6. 01:01:280 (2) - Unsnapped note.
7. 01:01:637 (3) - Unsnapped note.
8. 01:06:637 (1) - Unsnapped note.
9. 01:08:780 (2) - Unsnapped note.
10. 01:10:923 (3) - Unsnapped note.
11. 01:11:637 (4) - Unsnapped note.
12. 01:23:770 (2) - Unsnapped note.
13. 01:37:618 (1) - Unsnapped note.
14. You didn't set a Preview Point, this is an unrankable issue. Preview Point is the part of the music used when on the beatmap selecting menu and when the thumbnail of the beatmap is clicked on the Beatmap Listing page. If you don't know how to set one (since you are a new mapper and all), open the box bellow.
    
    How to set a Preview Point

    A preview point, as the name says, is the part of the song used as "Preview". You should just set the start of it, since osu! itself will do the rest. To set one, do the following:
    1. Go to the part of the music you think is good to be used as preview (in this case, I would say 01:15:825 is good for that).
    2. Go to Timing> Set Current Position as Preview Point.
    
    You should set a Preview Point on all the difficulties and they should start at the same point!

My own mod

1. 00:25:928 (1,2,3) - I think these ones could be better arranged. Take a look at these pictures:
   
   
   
   00:25:928 (1) and 00:27:000 (2) like this and 00:28:071 (3) would be on the same spot as 00:25:928 (1)
   
   If you want to do this, I think you'll have to improve the format of 00:28:071 (3) Maybe a little more arched.
2. 00:30:214 (4) - I think New Combo here would make more sense than on 00:32:357 (1)
3. 00:34:500 (3) - New Combo here would look good, since there's a lot of time between 00:33:428 (2,3)
4. 00:38:785 (3) - New Combo here? Since this is an Easy difficult, it's okay to have small combos (such as combos of only 2 notes)
5. 00:40:928 (5) - ^
6. 00:42:000 (6,1,2,3,4) - I think you should make this in a way that 00:42:000 (6,2,4) are on the same y position. Same goes for 00:42:357 (1,3) Just like this:
   
   
7. 00:45:214 (1) - I think this don't look so good here, since there's a lot of time between 00:43:423 (4,1) and 00:45:214 (1) is too close (in terms of positioning) to 00:43:423 (4) I don't think this "anti-jump" here is necessary.
8. 01:11:637 (4,5) - I would get them on the same y position.
9. 01:15:826 (1,2,3,4) - If you get these notes in a way that 01:15:826 (1,3) would be on the y middle line (y axis) and 01:16:707 (2,4) on the x one (x axis) would look much much better, in my opinion. Take a look at this:
   
   
   
   If you want, I already arranged them in a way that the spacing wasn't changed, so here's a code.
   
   

   256,64,75825,5,4,0:0:0
   128,192,76707,1,4,0:0:0
   256,320,77589,1,4,0:0:0
   384,192,78472,1,4,0:0:0

10. 01:22:883 (1,2,3,4) - Same thing as previous item, I would get these notes on the x-y axes.

Rinoa

Issues found by using AiMod

1. 00:39:851 (10) - Unsnapped note.
2. No Preview Point, set the same one for Delphie and Squall

My own Mod

1. There's no Kiai Time on this difficult (unrankable issue). The Kiai Time should be the same on all difficulties, so make sure it's the same on Delphie and Squall
2. 00:18:533 (3) - Get this to x:356 y:188 so that it will have the right spacing (that, in this case, is 1.2x) with 00:19:189 (4)
3. 00:21:643 (1) - I would start this "part of the song" (since there's a lot of time between 00:20:500 (7,1) - ) on the other side of the map since the previous part ends in a close spot 00:20:500 (7) See what I'm talking about here:
   
   
4. 00:23:785 (1,2) - Get them on the same y position.
5. 00:30:214 (4,5) - Check spacing.
6. 00:33:785 (8,9) - Get them on the same y position to make a nice triangle 00:33:428 (7,8,9)?
7. 00:35:214 (2,3) - Same as previous item. Get them on same y positino to make a nice triangle 00:35:214 (2,3,4)?
8. 00:36:285 (4,5) - Get them on same y position just for better look? xD
9. 00:38:785 (8) - I really recommend you to add New Combo here instead of on 00:40:928 (1)
10. If doing above item, 00:43:071 (9) New Combo here.
11. 00:46:285 (3,4,1) - Triangle by getting 00:46:285 (3,4) on the same y position?
12. 00:48:785 (4) - Move this to x:228 y:144 so that 00:47:357 (1,2,3,4) make a straight line.
13. 00:50:571 (3,5) - This overlap doesn't look good. Also, check spacing on 00:50:571 (3,4)
14. 00:53:071 (7,1,2) - Again, triangle shape by aligning 00:53:428 (1,2)?
15. 01:08:785 (1,2,3) - Maybe move them all along to x:360 y:84 and then move 01:09:857 (3) to x:152 y:84 so we get a nice symmetry? If doing so, please don't forget to check the spacing with the next notes.
    
16. 01:11:464 (2,3) - Check spacing.
17. 01:12:000 (3,4) - Why is the spacing between them is different than between 01:13:216 (4,5)? The time between them is the same...

Squall

Squall was the best difficult, in my opinion~

Issues found by using AiMod

1. 00:17:224 (1) - Unsnapped note
2. 00:17:389 (2) - Unsnapped note
3. 00:17:552 (3) - Unsnapped note
4. 00:17:879 (4) - Unsnapped note
5. 00:18:207 (5) - Unsnapped note
6. 00:20:498 (11) - Unsnapped note
7. 00:22:353 (2) - Unsnapped note
8. 00:22:711 (3) - Unsnapped note
9. 00:24:139 (2) - Unsnapped note
10. 00:34:849 (2) - Unsnapped note
11. 00:39:670 (4) - Unsnapped note
12. 00:41:456 (1) - Unsnapped note
13. 01:45:673 (2) - Unsnapped note
14. 01:46:030 (3) - Unsnapped note
15. No Preview Point. Should be the same on Delphie and Rinoa

My own Mod

1. 00:17:224 (1,2,3) - Please check the spacing between them, 00:17:224 (1,2) is 1.2x but 00:17:389 (2,3) is 1.14x. Also, align 00:17:389 (2) better with 00:17:224 (1,3)
2. 00:46:642 (3,5) - Getting them on the same y position would look good.
3. 00:52:535 (8) - Maybe get this to x:136 y:132 so that the spacing with 00:52:000 (7,9) is correct?
4. 01:23:398 (2,3) - Get them on the same spot as 01:21:609 (5,6) would look better, in my opinion.
5. 01:25:432 (8,9) - Maybe get them on the same y position as 01:24:354 (4,5,6,7)?

*phew* Here you are, a fresh mod!~

If you want a recheck later, you can just call me by PM and I'll come back here!

I'm cheering for you! *shoots start*

That's all! Good luck with your map!

MoodyRPG wrote:

A funny moment in FF8, is such a nice game, I played this game 3 months ago and the game/OST is awesome

General

1. The correct source is "Final Fantasy VIII" if you can see in Wikipedia
2. Add more tags like "squaresoft, playstation, psx", etc.
3. Well timing is off in my opinion, you should to ask someone to check
4. This map doesn't have Preview time, in my opinion here in 00:45:214 looks nice
5. I don't get why the difficulties have the same name from the characters, my suggestion is rename each one "Easy,Normal and Hard"

Delphie

• -- This difficulty have a different offest and BPM,183,000/17222 should be
  -- Delphie? I've heard Selphie in the game
  - 00:33:428 (1) - I really prefer to unstack this note to avoid the confusion for newbies players
  - 00:45:214 (3,1) - More spacing between these objects please
  - 01:12:000 (5) - The timing has changed but the slider is unsnapped, this should be end in 01:12:810
  - 01:25:530 (4) - Spacing

Rinoa

• - 00:51:642 (5) - nazi* I suggest to move this slider in another place because is making a overlap with (3)
  - 01:37:627 (5) - New combo if you follow the music
  - 01:53:885 (8) - Delete this slider because you finish the diff here

Squall

• - 00:26:523 (2) - Error spacing here?

Map needs to work but for now is fine, good luck

DrakeCuriel wrote:

Hey there, I said I'd mod this map and I've looked through all three difficulties, and I can't see anything too out of place apart from the general flow of the map. I have no experience with making maps though, but I felt that the flow of the maps was occasionally a bit awkward. I think that was mainly because the circles size is large on all three difficulties, if I might make a suggestion, I'd say reduce the circle size on the Squall difficulty.

I'm sorry I couldn't actually mod your map due to my inexperience, but it looks like you've got a decent set of mods so far, so good luck!

Froztic wrote:

Hi, from in-game requests (via PM)


Selphie
01:18:472 (4,1) - spacing (maybe) since it's an easy diff

Rinoa
00:58:071 (4) - new combo ?
01:19:060 (1,2) - spacing
01:20:824 (3,4) - spacing
01:22:442 (1,2) - spacing

Squall
00:20:171 (10,11) - spacing
00:30:214 (1,2) - spacing (maybe)
01:11:464 (12,1) - spacing

i can't mod sound, so yeah

note : i'm not an experienced mapper, there might be some mistakes.
Please re-check.

btw, this map looks nice, good luck on this !

cirno- wrote:

General

Needs better design. This could use a custom skin. I 've been thinking about this but I don't know where to find one, do I have to make one myself or is there like a database? I cant really find good info on this

00:20:571 - bookmark here pls done


Selphie
00:27:000 (2) - SPACING. omg . Put it at x280 y188
00:30:214 (1) - Yea too close mate just click this 00:30:214 (1,2,3,4) - then CTRL+J
00:35:571 (2) - same kind of problem as 00:27:000 (2) -

Use 1.5x DS more pls. Too much overlap with 1.2. Don't be scared to do this because there's still barely any room between the two notes. But enough that it looks so much better. Most of this whole diff needs this to be fixed. It will help you with the blankets as well. It'll look better.

Fixed the precise sliders you pointed out with 1,3 DS and will take some time to look at the map thinking about your advice.

Rinoa
00:36:285 (4) - Stack on (5) for flow hmm I prefer the way it is now ^^
00:40:571 (4) - ^ same but this time for aesthetic purposes done
00:50:214 (2,4) - stack properly done
00:53:785 (2) - NC should be here I like my new combos with the measure xD
01:43:170 (3) - Might not want it perfectly there. It'll confuse people.hmm maybe you're right i'm gonna see how to change that


Squall
00:17:222 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Try to make this look prettier I did something new
01:38:283 (1,2,3,4) - CTRL+SHIFT+S and scale by .85 That would be too easy ^^
01:44:243 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - then snap these were they should be now

SuperMoutarde wrote:

cirno- wrote:

General

Needs better design. This could use a custom skin. I 've been thinking about this but I don't know where to find one, do I have to make one myself or is there like a database? I cant really find good info on this

Kitagami wrote:

Well, you can't actually "find" one.

If you want to use someone else's skin (even if it's only a part of the skin), you should ask that person first if it's okay to use it on your map. Some options for your are:

1. You can make your own skin. Please visit this topic to learn more about how to make skins.
2. You can ask specific people to make a custom skin for you. Just go around osu! community and search for people that are avaible to do so. Check their userpage, signatures, already ranked beatmaps that have skins, etc.
3. You can go into this forum and, if you find a skin/part of a skin you like and that combines with your beatmap, ask the person who made it if you can use it on your beatmap

That's basically it! If you ever need help making/applying a skin, just send me a PM!

EDIT: Please, also add an advise on the Beatmap's description telling people to redownload the beatmap if they had downloaded it before the date of the difficult name change. (Delphie Selphie)

1. I feel hitsound is loud. try this :3
   00:17:165 - 40%
   00:21:616 - 50%
   01:11:973 - 65%
   01:15:811 - 60%
   01:33:628 - 50%
2. and I notice, You didn't unify volume of all diff. if you have no reason, please unify it at least.
3. 01:26:119 - You have KIAI end here, but should snap KIAI to white tick.

1. 00:34:473 (1,2) - It is a small thing. by adjusting the angle, will looks better?
   SPOILER

   
   

   428,260,34473,6,0,P|444:204|428:144,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   356,144,35544,2,0,P|340:200|356:260,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

2. 01:11:973 (5) - BPM change here, so you should put Newcombo here I think.

1. 00:23:758 (1) - Remove New combo.
   00:25:901 (3) - Add New combo.
   00:28:044 (1) - Remove New combo.
   00:30:187 (4) - Add New combo.
2. 00:54:294 (3) - Why you use x1.4? Please move to x:248 y:160. and 00:55:187 (4) - , move to x:400 y:176.
3. 00:56:973 (8,1) - Try use Grid Lv4. You should make a slider with better spacing :3
4. 01:01:615 ~ 01:06:615 You made this part in other diff, so you need to make this part.
5. 01:11:973 (1) - Add New combo.
6. 01:18:014 (5) - I think should use x1.2.
7. 01:25:367 (6) - ^
8. 01:43:135 (3) - Completely overlaying the slider is not recommended.　It should be used in at least Insane.

1. 00:22:687 (3) - Add New combo.
2. 00:40:544 (7) - 1 grid up
3. 01:09:830 (7) - Add New combo.
4. 01:33:628 (1) - Resnap this note. You need to snap to fit the BPM after changing.
5. 01:43:136 (3) - Add New combo.
6. 01:46:350 (4) - ^

terametis wrote:

Black = suggestion.　 Blue = suggetion, but important thing for me. Red = Error Element.
These are all suggestions. so you will be able to reject them without reason.

[General]

1. I feel hitsound is loud. try this :3
   00:17:165 - 40%
   00:21:616 - 50%
   01:11:973 - 65%
   01:15:811 - 60%
   01:33:628 - 50%
2. and I notice, You didn't unify volume of all diff. if you have no reason, please unify it at least. Yes, thanks, I'm still hoping to find a btter (and louder) mp3 but for now I'm gonna do as you suggest
3. 01:26:119 - You have KIAI end here, but should snap KIAI to white tick.ok

[Selphie]

1. 00:34:473 (1,2) - It is a small thing. by adjusting the angle, will looks better?
   SPOILER

   
   

   428,260,34473,6,0,P|444:204|428:144,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   356,144,35544,2,0,P|340:200|356:260,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

   done, thx for the code
2. 01:11:973 (5) - BPM change here, so you should put Newcombo here I think.done

[Rinoa]

1. 00:23:758 (1) - Remove New combo. ok
   00:25:901 (3) - Add New combo. ok
   00:28:044 (1) - Remove New combo. ok
   00:30:187 (4) - Add New combo.ok
2. 00:54:294 (3) - Why you use x1.4? Please move to x:248 y:160. and 00:55:187 (4) - , move to x:400 y:176. thx, done
3. 00:56:973 (8,1) - Try use Grid Lv4. You should make a slider with better spacing :3 changed it a bit, I suck at this -_-
4. 01:01:615 ~ 01:06:615 You made this part in other diff, so you need to make this part. will do very soon, you're right Done
5. 01:11:973 (1) - Add New combo.ok
6. 01:18:014 (5) - I think should use x1.2. done
7. 01:25:367 (6) - ^ done
8. 01:43:135 (3) - Completely overlaying the slider is not recommended.　It should be used in at least Insane.But i like this part :'( welp you're the second mod to mention this so I guess I'm gonna have to find something new Changed

[Squall]

1. 00:22:687 (3) - Add New combo.ok
2. 00:40:544 (7) - 1 grid up yep, done
3. 01:09:830 (7) - Add New combo.ok
4. 01:33:628 (1) - Resnap this note. You need to snap to fit the BPM after changing. woops, thx, fixed
5. 01:43:136 (3) - Add New combo.ok
6. 01:46:350 (4) - ^ok

thanks for m4m :3
good luck<3

Zazalng wrote:

Hi SuperMoutarde for M4M pm in game
I'm Newbie to Mod but i will try it

My Idea is wrong so Sorry

Color Rule
Pink : It's ok do or not to do it's fine
Black : Please Fix it (by My idea other i don't know)
Blue : Recommend

[Selphie]
------------------------
00:39:115 Maybe use slide and end at 00:39:830 Good idea, I changed it
------------------------
[Rinoa]
------------------------
01:16:694 It is a note for hitsound Finish why you don't add it ?
01:18:459 ^^
01:20:223 ^^
01:21:988 ^^
01:23:753 ^^
------------------------
[Squall]
------------------------
01:16:694 It is a note for hitsound Finish why you don't add it ?
01:18:459 ^^
01:20:223 ^^
01:23:753 ^^
------------------------
Sorry for Rinoa & Squall it look like same because music is finish and you can use note form hitsound of music ( i mean note no hitsound but use sound in music)
Good Luck

1. 00:25:901 (1,2,3,4,5) make it more like a curve. maybe like this: http://puu.sh/1PJeG
   

   364,92,25901,6,0,P|356:140|364:196,1,89.9999999999999
   400,224,26437,1,0,0:0:0
   360,260,26616,1,0,0:0:0
   320,288,26794,1,0,0:0:0
   272,312,26973,2,0,P|224:320|176:312,1,89.9999999999999

   (and fix spacing)
2. 00:30:187 (1) a triangle would be very cool: place (1) at x:361 y:306 and fix spacing
3. 00:36:258 (1) rotate it a little bit (to make a line) / the second sliderpoint (with the repeat) to x:388 y:56
4. 00:42:508 (5,6,7,8) maybe connect it better to the slider (4) maybe like this: http://puu.sh/1Q5PO
5. 01:28:164 (3) add finish?

1. 00:18:476 (3) put it to x:356 y:188 and (4) to x:184 y:176 , so it stacks to (1)
2. 00:58:758 (2) and 01:00:901 (6) I would place each of them one beat earlier :/ ,but it's no big problem, so you don't need to fix it
3. 01:05:008 (1) rotate it a little bit because it's hard to read in this pattern
4. 01:28:164 (2) add a finish at the beginning of the slider?
5. 01:37:614 add new combo?

1. 00:23:758 maybe form it to a square? like this: http://puu.sh/1Q67m
2. 01:10:901 (3) put it to x:284 y:168 (it's hard to read for easy-players)

HelloSCV wrote:

AIBat
MP3 Bitrate ( current birate is 64kb/s plz fix this ) Fixed. Now 117kbps
Inconsistency in Source Fixed
Inconsistency in uninherited (red) timing sections Fixed

Selphie
AR -1, OD -3, HP -4 ( so high for easy :p ) Ahah ok I thought that new players still need some challenge xD. Done

01:49:566 (4) - Unsnapped circle - by AIBat Seems snapped to me. Either I fixed it when i first saw your post and I don't remember or I don't know what you're talking about xD

01:49:923 (5) - finish Done

Rinoa
OD -1 ok

00:35:901 (3,7) - add whistle Done
00:53:758 (2) - ^ on end Done
01:02:330 (2) - ^ Done
01:04:115 (5) - whistle Done
01:37:614 (5) - NC? hmm no I like it this way NC would break the pace imo
01:44:207 (1) - deleteNC Well I had done this then someone modded to add NC lol. Both make sense, I'm gonna think about it ^^
01:49:207 (4) - whistle on start Done
01:50:636 (2) - ^ on end Done

Squall
01:32:257 (1) - Unsnapped circle - by AIBat this is on purpose, np

00:35:544 (6) - whistle on end? I already had that in my version, not sure if because I had read your post and I forgot but yeah agreed ^^
01:48:850 (3) - delete whistle on end Done

good clam song lol good luck for rank! xD thx!

GamerX4life wrote:

[Squall]

1. 00:25:901 (1,2,3,4,5) make it more like a curve. maybe like this: http://puu.sh/1PJeG
   

   364,92,25901,6,0,P|356:140|364:196,1,89.9999999999999
   400,224,26437,1,0,0:0:0
   360,260,26616,1,0,0:0:0
   320,288,26794,1,0,0:0:0
   272,312,26973,2,0,P|224:320|176:312,1,89.9999999999999

   (and fix spacing)
   
   Thx for the code but it's my code not the one of your image that you gave xD. I fixed using your img, thx ^^
   
2. 00:30:187 (1) a triangle would be very cool: place (1) at x:361 y:306 and fix spacing done
3. 00:36:258 (1) rotate it a little bit (to make a line) / the second sliderpoint (with the repeat) to x:388 y:56 done
4. 00:42:508 (5,6,7,8) maybe connect it better to the slider (4) maybe like this: http://puu.sh/1Q5PO done
5. 01:28:164 (3) add finish? I considered this already but it sounds weird without on 6 too, and with both it's too much, so yeah nothing ^^

[Rinoa]

1. 00:18:476 (3) put it to x:356 y:188 and (4) to x:184 y:176 , so it stacks to (1) done
2. 00:58:758 (2) and 01:00:901 (6) I would place each of them one beat earlier :/ ,but it's no big problem, so you don't need to fix it hmm no it's fine like it is
3. 01:05:008 (1) rotate it a little bit because it's hard to read in this pattern done
4. 01:28:164 (2) add a finish at the beginning of the slider? hmm no
5. 01:37:614 add new combo?hmm ok

[Selphie]

1. 00:23:758 maybe form it to a square? like this: http://puu.sh/1Q67m done
2. 01:10:901 (3) put it to x:284 y:168 (it's hard to read for easy-players)done

Hope it helps and Good Luck!

Cancel wrote:

Sorry, but i don't want to mod this song :/

Taris wrote:

Mod, hmm unique songs~ Its time to hear something freshly new

[General]

1. I think you should uncheck letterbox during breaks since you have no breaks. Make sure if you do this to 1 diff you do it to the others diff too for consistency. ok
2. Your diff names are confusing, at the very least you should translate your diff name into the standard diff name like : Easy,Normal,Hard etc. make sure you put this in creator words, the little box thingy where you tell the world about your map.You're the second person to mention this, meh, I just changed the diff names to Easy, Normal, Hard

[Selphie]

You need to increase OD+1 the high bpm need to match harshness of map and OD+1 will help
and increase AR by 1 if you want to.nah it's easy diff, another mod told me to put maximum what is is now

1. 00:33:654 - You should add a note here, the pause between note 3 and note 4 feel really off especially when there is clearly beats / music in this part. if you want easier rhythm you should make 00:33:297 (3) - a slider. Yeah, added a circle
2. 00:57:225 - ^ same thing above.^
3. 01:01:155 (1) - New combo in wrong spot imo, it also break your new combo pattern because you didn't add a new combo here : 00:42:940 (3) - If you remove it I have the place you can put new combo in next suggestion. ok
4. 01:02:226 (1) - It feels more appropriate if you add new combo here, since this is where there is a change in music and it will be consistent with your previous pattern.
5. 01:11:868 (3) - Finish missing here, why did you not add it here? There is a big bang here and its similar to the other places you put finishes, If you want you can lower the volume of this finish since its sound a bit softer here.there is no big bang to me here ^^ I like it as it is
6. 01:29:131 (1) - My personal taste, but whistle to the start of this does not sound bad, maybe you should add it. if you add it there make sure you add it to the start of 01:30:014 (2) - too good idea, done
7. 01:50:533 (4) - Similar to the combo's above you should add new combo here, generally combo's shouldn't be over 6 in this diff and you didn't put them that way.ok, done, i will remember that
8. 01:30:896 (1) - Spinner end too early imo, move spinner end 1 tick forward. Since there is a sudden silence in music you should add a inherited timing point and put volume to 5%. I dont think it ends too early but agreed to lower volume on the hitsound, done
9. Rhythm is good and consistent, in this diff :> Ty^^

[Rinoa]

Likewise in Selphie diff you should increase OD+1 because of the harshness of the bpm. Mods keep telling me to change it one way or another, I'll see what I do But I'm not sure I'll be changing that one

1. 00:20:591 (5) - New combo here, It fits really even though its short. It fits to the mood of the song, there even a change of tone.Well you're the second one to mention that so I guess I'm gonna have to do it even though I really think one combo fo the whole intro feels right
2. 00:18:132 (1) - Decrease the volume of this note a little? sound it a bit loud to me Yeah, the whole intro, even, now that you mention it. I reduced to 40%
3. 00:20:591 (5) - Spacing error, move this up more to fix, make sure if you fix this these two notes : 00:21:082 (6,7) - line up with note 5 or it'll look really bad.fixed
4. 00:29:011 (1) - Remove new combo here, since there is really no need, if you want to keep it though you need to add it 00:34:368 (4) - you should really fix it using either ways I told you above.Agreed I had done it first then a mod told me to change but this feels better, back to this
5. 00:36:154 (2) - Placement is messy here, and what I mean by messy is stacking, you need to put this note's position the same as 00:34:368 (4) - it'll be better imo. fixed
6. 00:27:940 (2) - Another big spacing error :< please check your spacing's more carefully. usually I don't notice these things off the bat but wooooh this one is pretty big fixed, i did full recheck of the DS
   Oh and you should still make this note blanket 00:26:868 (1) - slider end.fixed
7. 00:30:082 (3) - This slider looks extremely ugly, it freaks me out. make sure you fix the shape and move it up a little bit o.o it feels cramped up with the other notes. lol's but you're right though, I did something new which looks much better
8. 00:35:440 (1) - Oh I notice another big spacing error here, make sure you fix it and change the spacing of other notes correctly. fixed
9. 00:41:690 - Rhythm wise, it would be a good idea to add a note here. there is a clearly a beat here and what a perfect place to put it too! it won't affect movement Well there's obviously a note here but I thought adding it might be a bit too hard for normal diff? I will think about this, not adding yet
10. 00:42:761 - If you do the above, For consistency you should add a note here as well.^
    00:41:511 (4) - and I just noticed if you do the above you should add new combo, either way you adding a new combo here won't hurt. I think it's fine like it is
11. 00:38:297 (6,7) - You should move this to the left to fix spacing for the upcoming note, Oh and I noticed note 7 doesn't line up with note 6 so I think you should do that + move to the left. fixed
12. 01:05:975 (1) - Remove new combo, reason already mentioned above. ok
13. 00:46:154 (1) - Oh snaps another noticeable spacing error D: you reaallllllllyyy need to check spacing in this diff because it seems pretty messed and makes it look like you didn't use distance snap. ^
14. 01:26:337 (6,7) - ^ ^
    01:27:367 (2,3,4) - ^^
    01:35:630 (2) - ^ ^
    This DIFF need TOTAL remap, Your placement is really bad, notes are squished together and overall map looks messy, tbh I think you just put notes down and only worry about rhythm. There are many spacing errors, Probably more that I missed. Please at the very least check spacing on this map, It look pretty incosistent. Did full recheck on distance snapping and tried to make better placements. Thx

[Squall]

Increase AR+1 for this diff, because of high bpm basically. done

1. 00:20:591 (9) - Similar to the other diffs, Add new combo here.
2. 01:10:082 (2) - To be consistent here add a new combo :> ok
3. 01:18:249 (4) - ^ ^
4. 01:25:308 (4) - ^ ^
   00:41:511 (7) - Meh new combo here as well really, ^, also added NC on 00:43:475 btw
   Overall your best diff, but placement could still be improved, rhythm is fine.

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This map need more work imo , Hopefully my mod helped you :> It sure did!

Good Luck~

1. has three mp3 files. you must remove two.
2. remove "hitcircleselect.png". its image does not need on beatmap.
3. You must add "approachcircle.png". "hitcircle.png", "hitcircleoverlay.png" and "approachcircle.png" should be set.

NewRulerNA wrote:

hi
found issues. you must fix those.

[General]

1. has three mp3 files. you must remove two. -_- No idea how this happenned, I was pretty sure I removed those from the folder before updating. Fixed
2. remove "hitcircleselect.png". its image does not need on beatmap.ok
3. You must add "approachcircle.png". "hitcircle.png", "hitcircleoverlay.png" and "approachcircle.png" should be set.ok

Natsu wrote:

From my Queue~ this maps is so good Thank you

Missing Skin Files
approachcircle.png ok
reversearrow.png Do I really have to or is this suggestion? I think the standard arrow is fine so if it's ok I dont want to override this

Try to reduce vol of hitsounds since sound bad so highly imo ok, I'm gonna change this

and slider tick sound ugly try to use this:
http://puu.sh/1QXYA thx for the suggestion and link, will consider when changing volume settings

Garven wrote:

Try this

1. Offset: 18,139ms BPM: 183.00
2. Offset: 22,581ms BPM: 168.00
3. Offset: 72,940ms BPM: 148.00
4. Offset: 76,767ms BPM: 204.00
5. Offset: 89,070ms BPM: 200.00
6. Offset: 90,870ms BPM: 210.00
7. Offset: 92,571ms BPM: 192.50
8. Offset: 94,647ms BPM: 183.00
10. Offset: 103,036ms BPM: 168.00

Really weird timing >_> Some of it I'm still not really sure on, but this got much better accuracy for the majority of the map.

Soaprman wrote:

You don't need a custom reversearrow. The reason the circle parts are insisted upon is that having some but not all would clash pretty badly with some skins. Same thing goes for HP bar elements if you ever use custom ones. Those things are in the rules because it's the most visible place to put things like this that are so easy to overlook. Ok, so I've got all the files I need ^^

Note: I started hitsound modding, but decided it'd take a while and isn't worth including unless it's asked for. If you want to talk hitsounds, PM me on forum or ingame and if I have time, I'll help out. What you have now is plenty serviceable though. Well I'm never against an advice but it's probably not the part that needs more improvement

Same goes for timing. It's late. I don't have the attention span to fine-tune timing. I could maybe help on a weekend when I'm well-rested though. This is a more important issue, what version have you been playing? Did you re-download today? I just changed timing after Garven's post who made the timing much more refined that it was (with three more offsets and BPMs). If you've been playing on the latest version and you think you can still help improve timing, I will be very grateful

[General]
The video offset is about a second too early. Change it to 2101ms. It'll make the video start a bit after the song but it also makes the dance coincide with the music like it does in the game. Watch Squall's leg at 01:16:767 to see what I mean. thx, fixed

Not a big fan of the combobursts. The art styles on the pics really clash with the bg pic and video. I actually think skinning out the combobursts looks pretty nice on here, because you still get the stars and light flash. If you want to try it, here's a transparent 1x1 png to use: http://puu.sh/1Rm6y I get what you mean that i clashes a bit but I don't understand the second part -_- mm I ll try to change maybe, but I don't think it's that bad

Think you could find an mp3 with a bit more fadeout? It sounds kind of abrupt here, when this is the kind of song/video pair that's asking for a good fadeout. If you want, maybe even quieten the part of the mp3 a little bit here since it's after the dance and they're standing outside. It would be a nice touch.I already changed the mp3, first one was really crappy xD, I have a hard time finding a better one and I'm not the best with audio editors but I'll keep searchin for a better one

[Easy]
01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - I know it's Easy but this part needs more motion. This is the big dance. This is where Squall gets his shit together and tears up the dance floor. Try using sliders for this whole kiai section. I felt there was smth wrong but I couldnt put the finger on it, definitely feels better with more sliders here. Changed

[Normal]
01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - same as in Easy. I'd even recommend increasing the slider velocity some in this difficulty, maybe to 1.25 or so. You can do this by placing inherited (green) sections with the slider speed change on the same offsets as the red ones that have kiai markers. This will give it more feeling without pushing the challenge too much. good idea, changed

01:43:036 (1) - Nothing wrong here, but it seems a bit emphasized for the outro. Maybe move some sliders closer to the edges of the screen. hmm I think it's ok, I've considered not mapping this at all, but the map is short that it would be a shame to not map this

[Hard]
01:09:009 (2,3,4) - Try making these into a short slider that bounces back on 3. Makes it feel a little "quieter". Just simple like this will do:

SPOILER

changed

01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - same as in Normal (including slider speed boost). Maybe put a bit of a jump between some sliders (I can illustrate this in more detail if you'd like). changed too

01:28:825 (1,2,3) - Even though the spacing is "correct", this looks more ilke a spacing error while playing than a deliberate notice of a timing change. Change 1-2 to a slider to cover this up; this should also make it easier for the player to notice 3's approach circle. yeah spacing was wrong, fixed

[ok that's enough for now]
I've been typing this post off and on for like two hours. It doesn't help that I tend to write paragraphs in my mod posts... Maybe I should post what's here and let you sort it out. Let me know if anything doesn't make sense or if you need help doing anything I suggested!

grumd wrote:

Timing check.

Stuff like 00:33:295 (5,6,7) - sounds a bit off, but it's not the timing fault. Just the instruments sometimes don't follow the metronome well. Right timing later, for example, at 00:35:616 (1,2,3,4) - proofs it. Yeah, I had placed 00:37:223 (1,2,3,4,5) using 1/12 snap divisor when first mapping the song
This doesn't need to be changed since the timing is quite static here.

Doubles in kiai like 01:17:208 (2,3) - are a bit early placed. Well, that's again not a timing fault because stuff earlier and later sound fine. Look at 01:22:943 (1) - 01:20:296 (2) - 01:18:531 (4) - they all are fine. Still, all these doubles sound better if placed 1/6 later. I mean, 01:17:208 (2,3) - 01:18:972 (5,6) - 01:24:266 (2,3) - should be probably moved 1/6 forward. Still, the most precise fix for me is to move first note 1/6 later and second note 1/12 later, but that is kinda too much... 1/6 everywhere could be enough. Ask someone else about these doubles for a double-check. I had originally snapped these double using 1/3 snap divisor, so basically placing them 1/6 later as you suggest, because a lot of notes are placed on 1/3 beats during this moment, but the music sheet says they should be on 1/2 beats so I changed it. Gonna do more testing with this :/

Also, while I'm here, I have to say that 01:28:825 (1,2,3) - is too hard to read. Replace last two circles with a single slider.
You should add more sliders generally. As well as here: 01:30:870 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) -
Timing changes are unexpectable, so placing sliders to make it clear is a good idea. Ok

Also this one: 01:31:417 (3) - should probably be moved 1/12 earlier... Timing is fine again because next note is on-spot, but this one is a bit off.

Overall: timing is perfect, but some notes in the music do not follow the metronome good enough. It can be fixed by finding proper beat snapping, like moving 1/12 later or earlier, but that is sometimes not a good solution. 1/12 snapped notes are hard to play, so using a static beat snapping is always better. Still, there are some ways to make the timing good and not to hurt the gameplay. You may try it, for example here:
01:30:870 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here, I did suggest to move first (3) note 1/12 earlier. Also I said that it's a good idea to add sliders. So, if you don't want to make gameplay harder and want to still follow the music perfectly, you can place tricky notes on slider ends. Player doesn't need to press anything on slider ends, so that doesn't hurt gameplay. Try this here:

grumd wrote:

Actually, placing few notes on a 1/12 and adding another red lines for the sake of 1/4 is the same.
As I already said, the best way for such tricky notes is to cover them by sliders, that makes it more readable. Extra timing sections are not needed, timing is perfect.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:31:417 (3) should definitely be smth like 1/12 earlier but I feel like 01:31:012 (2) as well as 01:31:870 (2) are a bit off too. Maybe this timing section is not perfect? Anyway I changed to what you suggested with the sliders

grumd wrote:

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:31:417 (3) should definitely be smth like 1/12 earlier but I feel like 01:31:012 (2) as well as 01:31:870 (2) are a bit off too. Maybe this timing section is not perfect? Anyway I changed to what you suggested with the sliders

Timing is fine since 01:30:870 (1) - and 01:31:727 (1) - sound on-spot. It's just the song being untimeable and non-rhythmic... You can do nothing about it, in any way it would be poorly playable.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - I know it's Easy but this part needs more motion. This is the big dance. This is where Squall gets his shit together and tears up the dance floor. Try using sliders for this whole kiai section. I felt there was smth wrong but I couldnt put the finger on it, definitely feels better with more sliders here. Changed

Soaprman wrote:

Alright, quick recheck.

You still need to change the video offset to 2101ms. Remember to do this in all difficulties.

This, I actually forgot -_- my bad

SuperMoutarde wrote:

01:16:767 (1) - Kiai section - I know it's Easy but this part needs more motion. This is the big dance. This is where Squall gets his shit together and tears up the dance floor. Try using sliders for this whole kiai section. I felt there was smth wrong but I couldnt put the finger on it, definitely feels better with more sliders here. Changed
It doesn't look like you actually changed anything here... same goes for the other difficulties. Not sure if you forgot or decided not to after all, but I still think you should. This is such a great slider song... don't settle for circles!

I uploaded a new version with the kai times patterns unchanged but I still intend to remap as you recommended. Didn't have time to do it well enough yet, when I tried patterns were shitty so I need time to do this well especially since I intend to change it in all three diff as you suggested with more slider speed.

The actual song timing seems about spot-on to me. Even when I set it to OD10, I do pretty well. What you have now is probably about the best you're gonna get.

ok, thank you, I fail at streams too much myself so I never know if my bad accuracy is because of bad play or wrong timings so this kind of feedback is really helpful ^^

Other than this stuff, though, the mapset seems rock-solid to me. Good work!

Yay, thanks!

Betsuto wrote:

Sorry fot late > <"

here !
[Hard]
00:20:106 (8) - add Whistle added
00:20:761 (2) - ^^ ? hmm no
01:28:678 (1,2) - Please fix your beat what's wrong with it? Timing gets a bit funky in this part so I understand your confusion, but this is correctly placed
01:31:012 (2) - add Whistle I assume you meant on the end of it, sounds good, added
01:31:870 (2) - ^^^
01:33:194 (1) - ^^ hmm not this one
01:33:506 (1) - add Finish ? no the music is going all quiet, a fat loud finish would break the poetry xD

[Normal]
Perfect ! thanks

[Easy]
I think ...
It's too hard for Beginning ...
Please take it easy ! You really think so? 1,77 stars, tell me what particular combos/parts you think too hard cauz i don't see it

Your map is good !
<3 Standart

Go for rank !!!!! Good luck

pife1 wrote:

Hi I am not a expert, I am only begining, but here we go.

[Hard]
01:18:237 (1,2,3,4) I think they need to be closer

SuperMoutarde wrote:

pife1 wrote:

Hi I am not a expert, I am only begining, but here we go.

[Hard]
01:18:237 (1,2,3,4) I think they need to be closer

No they don't? this part uses consistent 1.0 dist snap, don't see why I would change these oO

Faust wrote:

Hello.

Timing:

SPOILER

183.00 BPM - 18,139
51.252 BPM - 21,417
168.00 BPM - 22,581
167.50 BPM - 71,866
148.00 BPM - 72,940
109.00 BPM - 76,183
124.00 BPM - 76,377
204,00 BPM - 77,363
204.25 BPM - 82,951
209.00 BPM - 87,357
203.00 BPM - 89,079
205.00 BPM - 90,852
202.00 BPM - 91,876
120.00 BPM - 92,321
192.50 BPM - 92,571
105.25 BPM - 93,506
183.00 BPM - 94,646
102.00 BPM - 101,859
168.00 BPM - 103,035

Yup.

1. OD-1 is better. this song is many BPM changes so difficulty.
   　
2. 00:45:884 - add note. i can hear sound here.
   
   
   　
   Hit sound
3. 00:22:581 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
4. 00:23:652 (3) - ^
   　
5. 00:25:080 (2) - add whistle
   　
6. 00:26:152 (2) - ^
   　
7. 00:26:866 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
8. 00:27:580 (3) - add whistle
   　
9. 00:27:938 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
   　
10. 00:29:366 (3,4) - add whistle
    　
11. 00:31:152 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
12. 00:31:688 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
    　
13. 00:32:223 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
14. 00:33:652 (7) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
15. 00:34:545 (1,2,3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
16. 00:40:080 (2) - ^
    　
17. 00:40:438 (3) - add whistle
    　
18. 00:41:509 (1) - ^
    　
19. 00:42:580 (2) - ^
    　
20. 00:43:652 (2) - ^
    　
21. 00:44:723 (2) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
22. 00:49:723 (4,6) - add whistle
    　
23. 00:50:438 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
24. 00:50:973 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
    　
25. 00:51:509 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
26. 00:52:938 (7) - ^
    　
27. 00:55:438 (4) - add whistle
    　
28. 00:57:223 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
29. 00:58:295 (6) - ^
    　
30. 00:58:652 (7) - add whistle
    　
31. 00:59:366 (2) - ^
    　
32. 00:59:723 (4) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
33. 01:00:795 (1) - ^
    　
34. 01:01:509 (3,4) - ^
    　
35. 01:02:938 (1) - add whistle
    　
36. 01:04:009 (4) - ^
    　
37. 01:05:080 (1) - ^
    　
38. 01:06:152 (4) - ^
    　
39. 01:27:357 (2,4) - ^
    　
40. 01:43:036 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
41. 01:44:107 (3) - ^
    　
42. 01:45:536 (2) - ^
    　
43. 01:47:321 (1) - ^
    　
44. 01:48:036 (3) - add whistle
    　
45. 01:48:393 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
46. 01:49:821 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
    　
47. 01:50:536 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
48. 01:51:607 (2) - ^
    　
49. 01:52:321 (4) - add whistle
    　
50. 01:52:678 (6) - add whistle of slider end.
    　
51. 01:54:107 (3) - add whistle of slider start.

1. Please refer to Mod of the hit sound that I wrote when Mod did Hard.
   　
2. 01:52:142 (3) - suggestion.
   

1. 00:39:723 (1) - slider 4th point move to x:224 y:120
   　
2. 00:45:438 - add something?
   　
3. 01:19:421 (4) - not fit song. 2/1 slider is better.

Guy wrote:

hi~ from my queue
m4m time!

[Hard]

• 
  
  　

1. OD-1 is better. this song is many BPM changes so difficulty.
   　
2. 00:45:884 - add note. i can hear sound here.
   
   
   　
3. [Hit sound]
   SPOILER

   1. 00:22:581 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   2. 00:23:652 (3) - ^
      　
   3. 00:25:080 (2) - add whistle
      　
   4. 00:26:152 (2) - ^
      　
   5. 00:26:866 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   6. 00:27:580 (3) - add whistle
      　
   7. 00:27:938 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   8. 00:29:366 (3,4) - add whistle
      　
   9. 00:31:152 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
      　
   10. 00:31:688 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
       　
   11. 00:32:223 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   12. 00:33:652 (7) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   13. 00:34:545 (1,2,3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   14. 00:40:080 (2) - ^
       　
   15. 00:40:438 (3) - add whistle
       　
   16. 00:41:509 (1) - ^
       　
   17. 00:42:580 (2) - ^
       　
   18. 00:43:652 (2) - ^
       　
   19. 00:44:723 (2) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   20. 00:49:723 (4,6) - add whistle
       　
   21. 00:50:438 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   22. 00:50:973 (2) - add whistle of repeat point.
       　
   23. 00:51:509 (3) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   24. 00:52:938 (7) - ^
       　
   25. 00:55:438 (4) - add whistle
       　
   26. 00:57:223 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   27. 00:58:295 (6) - ^
       　
   28. 00:58:652 (7) - add whistle
       　
   29. 00:59:366 (2) - ^
       　
   30. 00:59:723 (4) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   31. 01:00:795 (1) - ^
       　
   32. 01:01:509 (3,4) - ^
       　
   33. 01:02:938 (1) - add whistle
       　
   34. 01:04:009 (4) - ^
       　
   35. 01:05:080 (1) - ^
       　
   36. 01:06:152 (4) - ^
       　
   37. 01:27:357 (2,4) - ^
       　
   38. 01:43:036 (1) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   39. 01:44:107 (3) - ^
       　
   40. 01:45:536 (2) - ^
       　
   41. 01:47:321 (1) - ^
       　
   42. 01:48:036 (3) - add whistle
       　
   43. 01:48:393 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   44. 01:49:821 (3) - add whistle of slider start.
       　
   45. 01:50:536 (5) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   46. 01:51:607 (2) - ^
       　
   47. 01:52:321 (4) - add whistle
       　
   48. 01:52:678 (6) - add whistle of slider end.
       　
   49. 01:54:107 (3) - add whistle of slider start.

[Normal]

• 
  
  　

1. Please refer to Mod of the hit sound that I wrote when Mod did Hard.
   　
2. 01:52:142 (3) - suggestion.
   

[Easy]

• 
  
  　

1. 00:39:723 (1) - slider 4th point move to x:224 y:120
   　
2. 00:45:438 - add something?
   　
3. 01:19:421 (4) - not fit song. 2/1 slider is better.

That's all~
good luck

[Easy]
00:45:438 - add something?

[Hard]
01:27:357 (2,4) - ^

piicrosi wrote:

Tu m'as tellement aidé pour ma map que j'aimerais vraiment faire de même mais bon.. Je peux pas. xD Mais GG, ta map est très belle!
Merci!

Sinon je peux te dire en normal si tu veux de rajouter un clap a 00:35:438 (1) , à la fin du slider, aussi à 00:37:580 (5), toujours à la fin, ainsi qu'à 00:45:438 (4) sur tout le slider.
Met en un aussi à 01:07:938 (2) à la fin et à 01:10:080 (2) - (Si tu trouves ça beau fait en easy et normal ^^)

Pour les hitsounds, t'es tombé à 5 minutes près avant que j'update en changeant énormément les hitsounds :/ Je trouve que les claps sonnent pas bien avec la musique, c'est pour ça que j'en ai pas mis, mais j'ai rajouté plus de whistle.


Et en général baisse le son des 3 derniers objets à 1:53:570 pour la musique Bon ça sert à rien mais bon.. bonne idée, je change

En easy enlève 01:10:080 (2) - et met un slider à 00:57:759 qui dure 2/4 à la place avec un whistle si tu le sens bien :

SPOILER

hmm ça suivrait mieux la musique je suis d'accod mais en Easy je préfère pas trop les brusquer, et avec les whistle ajoutés ça sonne bien comme c'est là je trouve pas ça choquant

Et à 01:06:955 pourquoi pas faire ça ? :

SPOILER

T'as raison il manque plein de notes là, en fait, j'ai changé, pour un stream 1/2

Et écarte un peu 01:12:940 (1,2,3) vu que c'est du hard :3 yep bonne idée, changé

Pour finir fait un peu monter 01:23:244 (2) non je trouve ça bien comme c'est

Voilàà c'est pas très utile mais bon ! xD N'hésites pas n'ajouter des claps à certains endroit comme je te l'ai dis, ça peut être qu'encore mieux ^^

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi, mod time from #modreqs /o/

[General]
Your hitbursts are too traslucent, it would be better if they were solid and opaque.
hmm I like them, though. Will change if more people mention it as an issue

Add "Square Enix" to tags. done
Edit: Remove "final fantasy VIII" from tags as you have it as the source. done

[Easy]
00:42:938 (3,1,2) - This could look better, curves always are nice, try this.

00:42:938 (3) - x:104 y:308
00:43:295 (1) - x:172 y:332
00:43:652 (2) - x:240 y:312

thanks, i does look better ^^ changed

00:47:580 (3,4) - I suggest something like this, looks nice, if you do, remember fix the placement of the objects after this.

changed

00:50:438 - 00:57:938 - The same circular flow can be a bit boring, try changing the direction of the flow here.
true, i did something new

[Normal]
00:20:106 (4) - 1 grid to the left (level 4) to be stacked with 00:18:138 (1)
fixed

00:39:723 - Try one of these rhythm, the one you have can be a bit difficult.


changed for the first one

01:11:866 -


changed for the first one too

01:31:012 - Must delete the uninherited point here.
no, there is bpm change here

[Hard]
Yay, all fun with those streams.
Decrease the AR to 7, following the pace of the song.
I had this before, I think 8 is fine

00:18:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It would be better if the flow were a bit curved.
Did something better, I think

00:45:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Let's improve a bit this along with the stream, make something similar to this.

changed

01:18:245 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing here should be less, it's a bit hard hit a stream like this, but it's up to you.
01:21:774 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:301 (1,2,3,4) - ^
yeah this is on purpose, it was easier before I think it's more fun now, and more dynamic

01:30:852 (1,2,1,2) - The timing here is messed up (also the song itself), I highly recommend replace them with a spinner from 01:30:852 until 01:32:571.
It is indeed, I've been considering this, or a small break because it's the fireworks time in the video so hiding it with a spinner would be a shame. Still, now this part is decently mapped so I'm keeping it for now

Well, that's all from my part, good luck /o/
Thanks a lot for the good advice

Faust wrote:

Here for a recheck.

Anyway, I find that you missed a timing section of 204 BPM at 77,216.
Please remember to do this for all difficulties.

Due to this, you might have to make certain changes etc.

Easy:

- 01:29:179 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

Normal:

- 01:20:598 (2) - Doesn't seem to be snapping to anything. Resnap this.

- 01:27:061 - Unsnapped inherited timing section.

Hard:

- 01:30:998 (2) - Unsnapped slider. As a compromise, end it on the blue tick perhaps.

- 01:45:536 (2) - & - 01:48:036 (3) - Unsnapped notes.

- 01:50:536 (5) - Unsnapped slider as well.

Almost too many, in fact.

All fixed. New vers uploaded. Thanks again!

TMAstraf wrote:

Easy
01:07:580 Maybe Spinner should end here hmm no I like how it is now
01:12:940 A little bit more distance to sliders Why? You think too hard? It's 1,2 DS as the rest of the map

Normal:
01:20:598 Make Slider a little pixel shorter yup fixed

Hard:
01:32:571 - 01:33:506 maybe remove all new combos No, it's meant to announce the fireworks, will change if more people say it's bad

BTW: AWESOME Map! =D Thanks! I'm glad you like it! And thanks for modding too ^^

That's All! =)

1. 00:18:138 (1,2,3) - Since there was no music earlier, it's hard to predict the rhythm and bpm here. My suggestion is to replace these by a repeating slider, this will show the rhythm at once.
2. 00:37:223 (7) - Remove new combo here and add it to 00:37:759 (1) - , right as you did before at 00:34:545 (1) -
3. Also talked via irc about removing last section (to make the ending more natural) and reshaping some parts of the map to make it look prettier.

1. 01:29:079 (5) - Add a whistle, this part lacks of hitsounds.
2. 01:34:646 (1) - Place whistle at the start, remove it from end. The whistle sound in the music starts there.
3. 01:36:613 - Add a whistle here.
4. 01:37:268 - Remove it from here (just same as above)
5. 01:38:580 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - And add whistles at the heads of all these sliders.
6. Don't forget that you should remove ending section in every diff btw.

1. 01:16:733 (1) - This circle should be placed a bit farther to not confuse people. Now this spacing looks too similar to 1-2-3 before. My suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586871
2. 01:18:539 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part looks too monotonous. Replace one or two of these sliders by a pair of circles.
3. 01:43:035 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Here too pls. Oh wait, you was going to remove this last section anyway xD

1. 
2. 
3. Inconsistent kiai time, preview time, red timing sections.

grumd wrote:

Timing and note placement is pretty nice now, got this fine result with my first try :3
Upd: SS on my second try
SS on second try, gg I can't get one because of my bad play at streams xD and good news for timing

A bit of modding, since I'm here. Thanks!

Hard

1. 00:18:138 (1,2,3) - Since there was no music earlier, it's hard to predict the rhythm and bpm here. My suggestion is to replace these by a repeating slider, this will show the rhythm at once. changed
2. 00:37:223 (7) - Remove new combo here and add it to 00:37:759 (1) - , right as you did before at 00:34:545 (1) - ^
3. Also talked via irc about removing last section (to make the ending more natural) and reshaping some parts of the map to make it look prettier. Yep, reshaped all those short streams as you suggested

Normal

1. 01:29:079 (5) - Add a whistle, this part lacks of hitsounds. added, as well as a couple more in this part
2. 01:34:646 (1) - Place whistle at the start, remove it from end. The whistle sound in the music starts there. done
3. 01:36:613 - Add a whistle here.^
4. 01:37:268 - Remove it from here (just same as above)^
5. 01:38:580 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - And add whistles at the heads of all these sliders.^
6. Don't forget that you should remove ending section in every diff btw.yep, done, it's obviously better this way

Easy

1. 01:16:733 (1) - This circle should be placed a bit farther to not confuse people. Now this spacing looks too similar to 1-2-3 before. My suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586871 fixed
2. 01:18:539 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part looks too monotonous. Replace one or two of these sliders by a pair of circles. done
3. 01:43:035 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Here too pls. Oh wait, you was going to remove this last section anyway xD ^^

Oh, and AIBat stuff:

1. 
   fixed
2. 
   fixed
3. Inconsistent kiai time, preview time, red timing sections.
   all fixed

[Ranger] wrote:

sorry for a late
very poor modding
because i can`t find anything

[Hard]
00:44:009 (4) - add finish here? hmm not really a note for finish imo
01:07:580 (6) - ^ added

this map is clear enough
good job

SuperMoutarde wrote:

Cancel wrote:

Sorry, but i don't want to mod this song :/

np, but why even bother posting here, then? meh, whatever

R e d wrote:

hi SuperMoutarde!

the map is great! i like it.

i dont like much the background, but ho well..
about the game play.. all diffs looks great!!!
but i think miss something!!

This is a classical song, so you need more hitsounds volume changes! This will help to get more into de song, and helps get more accuracy too!
my suggestions for hitsounds volume:

00:18:794 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 20%
00:18:958 - Remove Inheriting section
00:19:122 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 25%
00:19:450 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 30%
00:19:778 - Add Inheriting section hitsounds volume 35%
00:20:434 - Remove Inheriting section
00:21:089 - volume 30%
00:21:417 - in 3/4 timming point volume 20%
00:22:581 - 25% volome
00:45:438 - volume 40%


well,i wont do this for all map lol, but i hope you understand what im talking about. Its a small way you can improve your map.
If you do, do that for all diffs try be consistent.

Good luck :3

1. Since you used custom hitcircle skin, so you should add a line "SliderBorder : 255,255,255" in bottom of [Colours] section to prevent skin blending.
   
   Like this

   
2. Border of the hitcircle.png looks messy. Would you make it tidy?
   
3. Seems the video has wrong aspect ratio. It should be 4:3. Yeah, they look squashed. Moreover it has audio stream, which should be removed to reduce osz size.
   
4. Comboburst has unnecessary area transparented. And it should be flipped by horizontally due to her line of sight.
   
   Fixed one

   
   Before

   
   After

   
   
   
5. Offsets : I'm fine with current timings except some of them below.
   01:17:363 - Move this offset to 01:17:657 to count measures correctly.
   01:31:876 - Remove unnecessary offset : The music sounds really weird in this part, but I don't this part as a BPM change.
   01:32:321 - ^
   01:41:859 - Remove unnecessary offset : Since you didn't map after this time, so the last offset affects nothing. Btw BPM is wrong. :p

1. OD 2 : 2-4-6(E-N-H) would make more sense in diff spread imo.

Shulin wrote:

Hey, not gonna make a full mod post right now but I just played this briefly and the mp3 quality is very bad. It's a direct rip from the video right? I can hear the sound effects and everything.

I'd recommend using the CD version without the sound effects and try to find a better quality mp3. If you decide to change then let me know if you're having difficulties finding a new one and I'll help. ^_^

SuperMoutarde wrote:

I assume you've been playing without the video? It's entirely on purpose that there are the sound effects. I do have an "album" version but I think it would be really a shame to not have the sound effects (fireworks at the end, intro before actual music starts, etc). That's why I had to get it directly form the video. I've been trying to find precisely this audio track (with the sound effects) in good quality but I couldn't find one. If it's the only solution, I can use a cut version of the "album" version without sound effects, but that would not be ideal

ykcarrot wrote:

[General]

1. Since you used custom hitcircle skin, so you should add a line "SliderBorder : 255,255,255" in bottom of [Colours] section to prevent skin blending.
   
   Like this

   
   done
   
   
2. Border of the hitcircle.png looks messy. Would you make it tidy?
   
   done, I had not realized this at all, I am not very experienced with these softwares
   
   
3. Seems the video has wrong aspect ratio. It should be 4:3. Yeah, they look squashed. Moreover it has audio stream, which should be removed to reduce osz size.This I didn't fix yet, I need to find out how to change
   
4. Comboburst has unnecessary area transparented. And it should be flipped by horizontally due to her line of sight.
   
   Fixed one

   
   Before

   
   After

   
   fixed I guess, I used your image? I understand the flipping it's much better like this but I'm not sure about the transparency if you can explain more precisely plz i am a bit noob with this
   
5. Offsets : I'm fine with current timings except some of them below. all fixed
   
   SPOILER

   01:17:363 - Move this offset to 01:17:657 to count measures correctly.
   01:31:876 - Remove unnecessary offset : The music sounds really weird in this part, but I don't this part as a BPM change.
   01:32:321 - ^
   01:41:859 - Remove unnecessary offset : Since you didn't map after this time, so the last offset affects nothing. Btw BPM is wrong. :p
   
   
   [Hard]
   
   SPOILER

   00:18:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - (Nazi) Move them right by a grid to be on center.
   00:35:795 (2,4) - This sort of hitsounding pattern was over at previous part. They doesn't fit music, remove those wistles.
   00:37:938 (2,4) - ^
   00:38:652 (5) - Maybe add a repeat? http://puu.sh/1UNeF
   00:47:223 (2) - Remove whistle.(Read mod below)
   00:47:580 (3,4,5) - These beats have higher tone than 00:47:223 (2), I think you'd better add whistles to these three notes to emphasize them.
   00:49:366 (3,4,5,6) - ^
   01:08:652 (1,2) - ^
   01:11:509 (3) - Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft http://puu.sh/1UNsP
   01:11:866 (5) - ^ to head only
   01:12:940 (1) - Remove whistle from head. You didn't add whistle in other diffs.
   all changed
   
   
   [Normal]
   
   SPOILER

   00:35:438 (1) - Remove whistle from tail
   00:36:152 (2) - Remove whistle from head
   00:37:581 (5,6) - Remove whistle from tail / head
   00:42:581 (2) - Hmm.. I've never seen this kind of stacking in this part before. Unstack please.
   00:47:581 (4) - Add whistles to head and repeat arrow.
   00:49:723 (4) - ^
   00:54:723 (2) - Add NC to here, not to previous note.
   01:11:152 (4) - (Tail) Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft. And add whistle.
   01:11:866 (5) - (Head) ^. And add whistle.
   all changed
   
   [Easy]
   
   SPOILER

   1. OD 2 : 2-4-6(E-N-H) would make more sense in diff spread imo.

   00:47:580 (3,5) - Add whistles. Make sure don't add whistle to sliderslide.
   01:09:723 (2) - (Tail) Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft.
   01:11:866 (3) - Sampleset : Normal / Additions : Soft. And add whistle.
   all changed

ykcarrot wrote:

Just little things


[Hard]
00:30:795 (7) - Remove finish, there is nothing very emphasized in the music. done
01:32:571 (1,1,1,1) - Ahaa, seems just NC spamming. There is not firework :3 ahah ok firework didn't begin yet here xD, done


[Normal]
00:45:438 (4) - Add whistles to every point done


[Easy]
00:29:009 (3) - Remove finish from tail, there is nothing very emphasized in the music. done
01:34:646 (1,2) - Since those two slider are mirrored, I think you'd better rearrange them to be symmetry. done. I copy pasted first one, then flip vertically and inverse selection (on the pasted one), is that ok or did you mean the shape is bad?


No kds.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

ykcarrot wrote:

[Easy]
01:34:646 (1,2) - Since those two slider are mirrored, I think you'd better rearrange them to be symmetry. done. I copy pasted first one, then flip vertically and inverse selection (on the pasted one), is that ok or did you mean the shape is bad?

120,192,94646,6,0,P|192:304|256:112|320:304|392:192,1,299.999999999999,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
392,120,96613,2,0,P|320:8|256:200|192:8|120:120,1,299.999999999999,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

Faust wrote:

Making mistakes while attempting timing on this has been so frequent for me I think it's a curse by now.
I go back to my earlier post here and find out I provided a 51.252 BPM which is pretty off, and at this point I can't tell if that's just my typo or really the timing I settled with and gave you at that particular moment of time.
Thankfully, it doesn't implicate the map a lot.

51.53 BPM at 21,417.

Ensures the timing section at - 00:22:581 (1) - is snapped.

Why did you delete the rest of the map after - 01:41:859 - though ?
I thought it had some pretty great stuff.

Please don't give kudosu for this post.

SuperMoutarde wrote:

I believe it was grumd's advice

Faust wrote:

51.53 BPM at 21,417.

Faust wrote:

Uh.

Waiting on the results to come in. Also, I don't really have time to discuss things with lolcubes until 2 days later so anything for that will have to wait.

lolcubes wrote:

It's been a week (actually 10 days) so recheck time. Sadly Lybydose couldn't check this but eh, I rechecked it now anyway.

Timing:
01:23:832 - Remove this red section, 204 bpm is too slow here and 205 seems to work best.
01:27:344 - Move everything from here onwards (including this) by -16, except for 01:34:657 and others (includes green lines too)
After you do all this, select everything and apply -8 offset to absolutely everything. Be careful how you resnap, the offset seems late to me.

This should be it. I can rebubble afterwards as the set looks nice. Sorry for the trouble and that you had to wait for so long, I was very tired when I checked the timing the first time and didn't spend so much on it, with those fixes it should be flawless.

SPOILER

15:52 SuperMoutarde: if you listen to 25% with metronome clic
15:52 SuperMoutarde: it doesnt work
15:52 lolcubes: its good enough
15:52 SuperMoutarde: ok
15:52 lolcubes: that spot isn't mapped
15:52 lolcubes: so approximation is fine
15:52 SuperMoutarde: indeed
15:52 lolcubes: i am still trying to figure out these doubles
15:52 lolcubes: it's like
15:52 lolcubes: there is no sudden sound
15:53 lolcubes: so it affects everything between 1/4 and 1/3 ticks
15:53 lolcubes: and if the timing is off even by a very little bit
15:53 lolcubes: its easy to make a mistake
15:53 SuperMoutarde: yup
15:53 SuperMoutarde: bpm changes and 1/3 notes already make it pretty easy to fail for me anyway xD
15:53 lolcubes: well i could SS it before but my mistimed hits rose from 2% to 15% in the kiai
15:53 lolcubes: and ended up with ~10% xD
15:54 SuperMoutarde: yeah but it's hard to say how much of is due to this part being harder, and how much is due to mistiming
15:54 lolcubes: also the horn is indeed early at 01:17:022 -
15:54 lolcubes: and thats because its at 01:16:948 - hehe
15:54 lolcubes: if you check the other ticks in this whole section
15:54 lolcubes: its intentionally early
15:55 SuperMoutarde: oh yeah you're righ it s on blue tick
15:55 lolcubes: but yeah
15:55 lolcubes: if you listen to the rhythm closely
15:55 lolcubes: this may not be 204 after all
15:56 lolcubes: and the upcoming 204 is wrong
15:56 lolcubes: it does fit the melody
15:56 lolcubes: but it doesn't match the rhythm background
15:56 SuperMoutarde: this is so weird
15:57 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - try 195 bpm here
15:57 SuperMoutarde: the strangest thing happenned to me when playing FF8 on emulator, btw : the emulator crashed during this scene at the exact moment of the 204 BPM change, and the song kept playing over and over but with the 204 bpm being slowed to 168
15:57 lolcubes: and remove the upcoming 204
15:57 lolcubes: heh
15:57 lolcubes: you can directly rip the vid from the pc version though
15:57 lolcubes: its in rad video format
15:58 lolcubes: xd
15:58 SuperMoutarde: I didn't know about the PC version until you told me about it today xD
15:59 lolcubes: ill brb
16:01 SuperMoutarde: ok, i pu 195
16:01 SuperMoutarde: put
16:05 lolcubes: 01:22:946 (1,2,3) - why no whistles?
16:11 lolcubes: think i got this timing right now
16:11 lolcubes: im getting below 10% mistimed now
16:11 SuperMoutarde: yay, with what you told me, or did you make more changes?
16:11 lolcubes: more changes
16:11 lolcubes: very simple ones
16:11 SuperMoutarde:
16:12 SuperMoutarde: do I have the right to kudos you again since it's been a week since last time you helped?
16:12 lolcubes: no
16:13 lolcubes: usually kudosu = modpost
16:13 lolcubes: thats about it
16:13 SuperMoutarde: ok
16:13 lolcubes: this is just finishing the post from before
16:13 lolcubes: cause it was incorrect
16:13 SuperMoutarde: yeah but you take so much time
16:13 SuperMoutarde: compared to lazy mods who run AIBat and say the map looks too good for them to mod
16:13 SuperMoutarde: and stille arn their kudosu
16:13 lolcubes: i know right
16:13 lolcubes: i don't even use that
16:13 lolcubes: i simply refuse to
16:14 lolcubes: though 95% of the team uses it <_<
16:14 SuperMoutarde: well I do, cauz it helps, but I also mod it myself
16:14 lolcubes: i rather make a human mistake and be responsible for it
16:14 lolcubes: but still retain my ability to mod properly
16:14 lolcubes: than get lazy and do all that
16:14 lolcubes: and then go "oh but ai bat is outdated" or w/e
16:15 SuperMoutarde: so many lazy modders that when someone is really helpful I want them to be rewarded ^^
16:15 SuperMoutarde: aibat is still a plus
16:15 SuperMoutarde: like for skin dimensions and shit
16:15 lolcubes: its handy for certain things
16:15 lolcubes: which may be time wasting for a human to check
16:15 SuperMoutarde: snapping too
16:15 lolcubes: i still prefer to take extra time to do it myself too
16:15 lolcubes: snapping checker is already built into the game
16:16 SuperMoutarde: but doesnt work too well
16:16 lolcubes: it does
16:16 lolcubes: it snaps to below 1ms precision
16:16 SuperMoutarde: it didnt tell me that I had unsnapped notes when I actually still had
16:16 lolcubes: ...thats good enough :/
16:16 SuperMoutarde: and AIBat pointed out what the normal AIMod didnt see
16:16 SuperMoutarde: but this was 1ms errors
16:17 lolcubes: you know why it does that?
16:17 lolcubes: because they are not always errors
16:17 lolcubes: the thing is
16:17 lolcubes: when you have many red sections
16:17 lolcubes: what AIBat doesn't know is
16:17 lolcubes: for some reason due to mathematical errors
16:17 lolcubes: timeline IS actually 1ms off
16:17 SuperMoutarde: oO
16:17 SuperMoutarde: that explains a lot
16:17 lolcubes: so when you have a super handy bpm lets say 180
16:17 lolcubes: and you put it somewhere
16:18 lolcubes: after a while
16:18 lolcubes: you will notice ticks get 1ms off sometimes
16:18 lolcubes: not always, but sometimes
16:18 lolcubes: while aibat is just pure rounded math
16:18 lolcubes: in the end it doesn't really make a difference
16:18 SuperMoutarde: i got this problem exactly with this map many times
16:18 lolcubes: but it happens
16:19 SuperMoutarde: as you say it's only 1ms difference so not a big deal anyway, but I couldn't understand why it did that even if I checked the option to resnap notes on new timing
16:19 SuperMoutarde: as you say it's only 1ms difference so not a big deal anyway, but I couldn't understand why it did that even if I checked the option to resnap notes on new timing
16:19 lolcubes: this is also when you have weird bpms
16:19 lolcubes: like you had
16:20 lolcubes: 53.420 or w/e it was
16:20 lolcubes: hehe
16:20 lolcubes: because the game rounds it up to 1ms
16:20 lolcubes: while aibat still doesn't
16:20 SuperMoutarde: wait, did you tell me your additional timing changes or not?
16:20 lolcubes: no
16:20 lolcubes: im still building it
16:20 lolcubes: there are some minor things
16:20 SuperMoutarde: oh ok ^^
16:20 lolcubes: which make it go whack
16:23 lolcubes: 01:26:356 (5) - this note is a bit awkward
16:23 lolcubes: i believe this one is actually on a 1/4 tick
16:23 lolcubes: sigh, this song
16:23 lolcubes: 1/2 tick i mean
16:23 lolcubes: if thats the case
16:23 lolcubes: i would recommend a short slider lol
16:24 SuperMoutarde: hmm it doesn't sound like it should be on blue tick to me (i mean in terms of the music sheet)
16:24 lolcubes: not bllue
16:24 lolcubes: red
16:25 SuperMoutarde: you sure?
16:25 lolcubes: it does sound like it to me
16:26 SuperMoutarde: it's on white tick in the music sheet I believe
16:26 lolcubes: yeah well
16:26 lolcubes: wait what
16:26 lolcubes: white?
16:27 lolcubes: the note 5
16:27 lolcubes: is currently on a 1/3 tick
16:27 SuperMoutarde: ooo
16:27 SuperMoutarde: lol
16:27 SuperMoutarde: my bad
16:27 SuperMoutarde: i was looking at 01:27:336 (1) the whole time
16:27 lolcubes: 6 is on the downbeat yes
16:27 lolcubes: thats correct
16:27 lolcubes: hehe
16:28 lolcubes: 01:26:307 (5) - yeah im positive this should be here lol
16:28 lolcubes: on the 1/2 tick
16:29 SuperMoutarde: yeah definitely
16:29 SuperMoutarde: an error that occured when changing timing
16:29 SuperMoutarde: i had this on red tick the whole time
16:30 SuperMoutarde: well it's 311 for me but i assume it's because you made adjustment to the offset
16:30 lolcubes: more like bpm
16:30 lolcubes: hehe
16:30 SuperMoutarde: ^^
16:30 lolcubes: there is a simple logic here
16:30 lolcubes: so that 209 bpm you have
16:30 lolcubes: should be 208
16:30 lolcubes: but it should come earlier
16:31 SuperMoutarde: k
16:31 lolcubes: there is a pretty obvious pattern here
16:31 lolcubes: dont change yet though
16:31 lolcubes: cause there are some new stuff here
16:31 lolcubes: currently its an offset battle
16:31 lolcubes: i think i got the bpms down
16:31 SuperMoutarde: ahah an offset battle xD
16:31 SuperMoutarde: brb in 5minuts
16:34 lolcubes: ok
16:34 lolcubes: its perfect now
16:34 lolcubes: just say when you're back
16:34 lolcubes: this is working very nicely
16:42 SuperMoutarde: here i am
16:42 lolcubes: im just fine tuning the end
16:42 lolcubes: cause the end breaks with the current timing
16:42 lolcubes: but it looks much more clean now
16:42 SuperMoutarde:
16:46 lolcubes: lets use this
16:46 lolcubes: i almost SSd with od8
16:46 lolcubes: ok so
16:46 SuperMoutarde: clean result
16:46 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - 195 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: 01:17:652 - 204 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: 01:19:416 - 205 bpm
16:47 lolcubes: argh just one moment i need to solve one thing fast
16:48 lolcubes: 01:22:933 - 208 bpm
16:48 SuperMoutarde: are you suggesting to remove offset 77211 204 BPM?
16:48 lolcubes: yes
16:48 SuperMoutarde: ok
16:50 lolcubes: 01:22:928 - 208 bpm, which means the above 208 i wrote
16:50 lolcubes: move by -5
16:50 SuperMoutarde: k
16:51 lolcubes: one sec
16:51 lolcubes: wtf
16:51 lolcubes: my timing sections bugged
16:51 lolcubes: what am i doing
16:51 SuperMoutarde: lolol
16:51 SuperMoutarde: Sorry for putting you in such trouble xD
16:51 lolcubes: i had like
16:52 lolcubes: 2 sections on top of each other
16:52 lolcubes: so the lower bpm counted
16:52 lolcubes: argh
16:52 SuperMoutarde: lulz
16:52 lolcubes: now this is wrong lol
16:52 SuperMoutarde: which one was it?
16:52 lolcubes: the 208
16:52 SuperMoutarde: k
16:52 lolcubes: there is no 208
16:52 lolcubes: just remove
16:53 SuperMoutarde: so this should be on the 205 right?
16:53 lolcubes: from before? yes
16:53 SuperMoutarde: k
16:53 lolcubes: jesus what is wrong with this game
16:53 lolcubes: its already up to 900MB of ram
16:53 SuperMoutarde: oO
16:54 SuperMoutarde: lol, crash?
16:54 lolcubes: yes
16:54 lolcubes: lol
16:54 SuperMoutarde: editor makes my laptot overheat too
16:54 SuperMoutarde: laptopµ
16:54 lolcubes: well
16:54 lolcubes: the latest update
16:54 lolcubes: my osu is usually around 300~400
16:54 lolcubes: but latest update makes it go 900~1gb
16:54 lolcubes: and then crash
16:54 SuperMoutarde: wth
16:54 lolcubes: idk why
16:55 lolcubes: also the hitsounds started bugging for me again
16:55 lolcubes: cause xonar is a bullshit card for this game
16:55 lolcubes: that was fixed at some point
16:55 lolcubes: but now its unfixed
16:55 lolcubes: :/
16:55 SuperMoutarde: it was pretty minor update from the look of it
16:55 SuperMoutarde: that' s weird
17:00 lolcubes: yes this works
17:00 lolcubes: fixed it
17:00 lolcubes: ok so
17:01 lolcubes: ill just repeat
17:01 SuperMoutarde: ok,done. is it correct that the 205 bpm section goes from 79416 to 87336?
17:01 lolcubes: 01:16:728 - 195
17:01 lolcubes: 01:17:652 - 204
17:01 lolcubes: 01:19:416 - 205
17:01 SuperMoutarde: all these: done
17:01 lolcubes: 01:23:806 - 204
17:02 lolcubes: 01:26:453 - 205
17:03 lolcubes: 01:27:331 - 208
17:03 lolcubes: 01:28:196 - 205
17:03 lolcubes: 01:29:074 - 202
17:03 lolcubes: 01:30:856 - 205
17:04 lolcubes: 01:31:734 - 202
17:04 lolcubes: remove the rest
17:04 lolcubes: now there are a few special things to know
17:04 lolcubes: which you didn't originally do
17:04 lolcubes: and that is why people went to really silly timing values, including myself
17:05 lolcubes: 01:31:051 (2) - this slider here actually starts on a 1/3 tick
17:05 lolcubes: and ends on 01:31:441 - (you need 1/6 snap for this)
17:05 lolcubes: 01:31:932 (2) - same with this one here
17:05 lolcubes: starts on 1/3 ends on 01:32:328 - (also 1/6 snap cause 1/3 and 1/2 together make 1/6 else slider goes derp)
17:06 SuperMoutarde: oh ok, nice catch
17:13 lolcubes: you here?
17:13 lolcubes: my connection died for a minute haha
17:15 SuperMoutarde: i am here
17:15 SuperMoutarde: i am fixing the slider starting on 1/3 beat
17:15 lolcubes: okay
17:15 SuperMoutarde: sliders*
17:15 lolcubes: there are a few tricks we will include into the maps as well
17:15 lolcubes: so the video plays until the end
17:15 SuperMoutarde: how to?
17:15 lolcubes: tell me when you're done fixing
17:15 lolcubes: and update
17:15 lolcubes: so i can recheck
17:15 lolcubes: its a simple trick ill tell you after you fix stuff
17:15 lolcubes: we will do that at the end
17:16 SuperMoutarde: alright
17:17 SuperMoutarde: you meant I should place the beginning of the sliders on the 1/3 beat that is before its previous starting point, right?
17:18 SuperMoutarde: or after?
17:18 lolcubes: just link me the slider
17:18 lolcubes: ill tell you where to start
17:18 lolcubes: and where to end
17:18 lolcubes: its most simple
17:18 SuperMoutarde: 01:30:953 (2) -
17:19 lolcubes: 01:31:051 - this tick here
17:19 lolcubes: ends on 01:31:441 -
17:20 SuperMoutarde: ok, i knew i was wrong xD
17:20 lolcubes: the other slider should start on 01:31:932 - and end on 01:32:328 -
17:20 lolcubes: just one thing
17:20 lolcubes: i made one small adjustment to the timing here
17:20 lolcubes: sorry for not telling you
17:21 lolcubes: this 202 bpm 01:31:734 -
17:21 lolcubes: 01:32:612 - goes here
17:21 lolcubes: so the final 4 notes come a bit earlier
17:21 lolcubes: cause they were late
17:21 lolcubes: so the section until 01:32:612 - is still 205 bpm
17:21 lolcubes: which is at 01:30:856 -
17:21 SuperMoutarde: i move the offset to 01:32:612, correct?
17:22 lolcubes: on that 202 bpm, yes
17:22 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:24 SuperMoutarde: wait, what happpens to the 195 bpm section then
17:24 lolcubes: poof
17:24 lolcubes:
17:24 lolcubes: doesn't exist
17:24 SuperMoutarde: lol ok
17:26 SuperMoutarde: ok i did all, let me just check i didnt fuck up the snapping, and apply to all diff
17:27 lolcubes: yeah and then update
17:28 lolcubes: cause i have some hitsound suggestions hehe
17:28 lolcubes: i didnt even check other diffs yet
17:28 SuperMoutarde: well they re the same but easier
17:28 SuperMoutarde: xD
17:38 lolcubes: fixed all?
17:38 SuperMoutarde: i m applying on normal and easy, gotta fix the green sections and stuff, sorry for slow :/
17:39 lolcubes: oh no worries
17:39 lolcubes: was afk
17:47 lolcubes: gonna afk a bit again
17:47 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:47 SuperMoutarde: i m almostdone though
17:47 lolcubes: just let me know when you're done
17:47 SuperMoutarde: k
17:55 SuperMoutarde: I uploaded new version!
17:57 lolcubes: ok in hard
17:57 lolcubes: 01:30:559 (6,7,1,2) - you should rethink this pattern
17:58 lolcubes: it does look ugly :p
17:58 SuperMoutarde: ok
17:58 lolcubes: ill just drop off some suggestions
17:58 SuperMoutarde: you will have to accept the kudos at some point xD
17:59 lolcubes: 01:27:619 (4,5) - whistles at these
17:59 lolcubes: because of the melody
17:59 lolcubes: highlights
17:59 lolcubes: haha sure why not, at this point hehe
17:59 lolcubes: 01:28:927 (2,3,4) - same here, consider soft whistles
17:59 lolcubes: but only on the slider end
17:59 lolcubes: and circles 34
18:00 SuperMoutarde: then it would be good to also add whistle on start of 01:29:965 (5) don't you think?
18:01 lolcubes: oh yeah
18:01 lolcubes: i missed it
18:01 lolcubes: my bad
18:01 SuperMoutarde: ^^
18:01 lolcubes: 01:17:189 (2) - this should be on a 1/3 tick at 01:17:189 (2) -
18:02 lolcubes: wait what
18:02 SuperMoutarde: lolz
18:02 lolcubes: 01:17:240 -
18:02 lolcubes: here
18:02 lolcubes: 01:18:975 (5) - this one should be on a 1/3 tick at 01:19:024 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:22:489 (5) - on 01:22:537 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:24:247 (2) - on 01:24:296 -
18:02 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (5) - this one is correct
18:03 lolcubes: leave this one alone :p
18:03 lolcubes: but
18:03 lolcubes: instead of 2 stacking circles
18:03 lolcubes: you should consider using a slider
18:03 SuperMoutarde: well, are you sure? because i had mapped like this at first (mainly because my timing was wrong anyway) but after I look at the music sheet, I saw all these doubles are supposed to be on 1/2
18:03 SuperMoutarde: well, are you sure? because i had mapped like this at first (mainly because my timing was wrong anyway) but after I look at the music sheet, I saw all these doubles are supposed to be on 1/2
18:03 lolcubes: well
18:03 lolcubes: waltz is supposed to be mapped on the white ticks too?
18:03 lolcubes: i mean
18:03 lolcubes: played
18:03 lolcubes: but its improvised a little
18:03 lolcubes: so its on 1/3 ticks
18:03 lolcubes: right?
18:04 SuperMoutarde: You know better than I do ^^
18:05 lolcubes: its not really about knowing
18:05 lolcubes: its more about listening hehe
18:06 lolcubes: just when you do those fixes update so i check em again :p
18:06 lolcubes: still have to check other diffs too but i wanna get this one out of the way
18:06 SuperMoutarde: ok, i am doing the changes in all diff already, though ^ ^
18:13 SuperMoutarde: all done and updated!
18:20 lolcubes: in normal
18:20 lolcubes: 00:54:001 (7) - this finish here
18:20 lolcubes: sounds a bit odd
18:20 lolcubes: you have whistles on 00:54:001 (7,8) - in hard
18:20 lolcubes: do the same here?
18:21 SuperMoutarde: fixed
18:21 SuperMoutarde: i had a finish there in hard originally, forgot to change normal when i changed hard
18:21 lolcubes: hm
18:21 lolcubes: if possible
18:21 lolcubes: would you mind changing the logic of the objects in normal?
18:21 lolcubes: for example
18:21 lolcubes: 01:16:728 (1,2) -
18:21 lolcubes: i don't think this would work for a normal
18:22 SuperMoutarde: what would you suggest?
18:22 lolcubes: simply because the starting point is the heavy point
18:22 lolcubes: i would sugest a circle at the start
18:22 lolcubes: and a short slider for the 2 1/3 notes
18:22 lolcubes: for pretty much all occurences of such rhythms here
18:22 SuperMoutarde: ok
18:22 lolcubes: 01:18:240 (3) - this is ok
18:22 lolcubes: but those 2 circles are not
18:22 lolcubes: they are too hard
18:22 lolcubes: should be one small slider
18:22 SuperMoutarde: alright
18:23 lolcubes: 01:23:367 (1) - this feels off and really weird
18:23 lolcubes: rather map the downbeat at 01:22:928 -
18:23 lolcubes: and then a circle at 01:23:806 -
18:23 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (6,7) - this should also be a slider cause it wouldn't really be readable though, it probably would but best to avoid any confusion
18:24 lolcubes: it's a normal after all
18:24 lolcubes: 01:28:052 (3,4) - should have whistles too :p
18:24 lolcubes: but the slider 4 should have it on the start, not end
18:24 lolcubes: sounds a bit weird on end cause there are no notes before it
18:24 SuperMoutarde: hmm i m not a fan of changing the slider start on 01:22:928 i like it better as it is now :/
18:25 lolcubes: well
18:25 lolcubes: its certainly misplaced though
18:25 SuperMoutarde: why?
18:25 SuperMoutarde: it s same as in hard
18:25 SuperMoutarde: it follows music well imo
18:25 lolcubes: 01:23:367 (1) - ?
18:25 lolcubes: you have 4 circles here in hard
18:25 lolcubes: o_o
18:26 lolcubes: wait
18:26 lolcubes: uh
18:26 lolcubes: you have nothing here in normal
18:26 lolcubes: 01:22:928 -
18:26 lolcubes: on this tick
18:26 lolcubes: you have 4 circles on hard
18:26 SuperMoutarde: yeah definitely not like in hard, actually, my bad
18:26 SuperMoutarde: lol
18:26 lolcubes: 01:23:367 - this is a wrong place to start the slider because it creates a rhythm on this tick
18:26 lolcubes: which is nonexistant in the music hehe
18:26 SuperMoutarde: ok
18:26 lolcubes: should be either of the white ticks, preferrably downbeat or the 2nd small one
18:26 lolcubes: if you want to keep it its fine
18:27 lolcubes: just make sure it starts on 01:23:513 - then
18:27 lolcubes: as a "lead in" towards the next section
18:27 SuperMoutarde: but wait 01:23:367 is not nonexistant in the music
18:27 SuperMoutarde: or my ears are betraying me big time
18:27 lolcubes: dont delete the - at the end
18:28 lolcubes: i can't click the link then
18:28 lolcubes: :/
18:28 SuperMoutarde: 01:23:367
18:28 SuperMoutarde: still the same
18:28 lolcubes: not getting a link
18:28 SuperMoutarde: wtf
18:28 lolcubes: do you know how to get links?
18:28 SuperMoutarde: 01:23:367 (1) -
18:28 lolcubes: you press ctrl+c on the timeline
18:28 SuperMoutarde: here u go ^^
18:28 lolcubes: and just paste it into the chat
18:28 SuperMoutarde: y i know
18:28 lolcubes: yeah i know i understand what it's trying to follow
18:29 lolcubes: the thing it's trying to follow does indeed start with the slider, however it starts silent and comes into a crescendo until the end
18:29 lolcubes: problem is
18:29 lolcubes: slider start creates a rhythm
18:29 lolcubes: which is in between the main rhythm notes
18:29 lolcubes: and causes it to break
18:29 lolcubes: that's why it's so iffy
18:29 SuperMoutarde: i see
18:29 SuperMoutarde: but it sounds weird if i move the start to previous beat though
18:29 lolcubes: move it to 01:23:513 - :p
18:29 lolcubes: it sounds pretty good like this
18:30 SuperMoutarde: yeah that works
18:30 SuperMoutarde: done
18:31 lolcubes: 01:28:052 (3,4) - fixed whistles here?
18:31 SuperMoutarde: yep
18:32 lolcubes: 01:38:583 - you dont have any whistles here in hard, and i like that actually
18:32 lolcubes: these whistles in normal kinda break the consistency of hitsounding you used
18:32 lolcubes: i would suggest to remove them
18:32 lolcubes: 01:41:042 (1,2) - except for these two
18:32 lolcubes: these two are cool
18:33 lolcubes: might want to add them in hard too
18:33 SuperMoutarde: osu is going crazy i have to restart it
18:33 lolcubes: sure
18:33 SuperMoutarde: how can i keep the chat log?
18:33 lolcubes: /savelog
18:37 SuperMoutarde: alright, I changed the whistles in the end as you suggested in normal and hard
18:38 lolcubes: update please
18:38 lolcubes: sorry im kinda demanding hehe
18:38 SuperMoutarde: done
18:38 SuperMoutarde: oh wait
18:39 lolcubes: something broke
18:39 lolcubes: cant enter edit
18:39 lolcubes: lol
18:39 lolcubes: ill restart
18:39 SuperMoutarde: i didnt change the patterns that you said are too hard in normal yet
18:39 SuperMoutarde: i still have to change the patterns in normal for the doubles, actually, forgot to fix that
18:39 lolcubes: okay
18:45 lolcubes: in easy there is only one thing i think you should change
18:45 SuperMoutarde: you think i can keep 01:26:306 (5,6) as it is since it's 1/2?
18:45 SuperMoutarde: shit
18:45 SuperMoutarde: 01:26:306 (5,6) -
18:45 lolcubes: two actually
18:45 lolcubes: its better ot make them a slider too
18:45 SuperMoutarde: k
18:45 lolcubes: since they are a slider in hard
18:45 SuperMoutarde: ahah true ^^
18:45 lolcubes: awkward song choice, not much you can do about it heh
18:47 SuperMoutarde: hehe, not as awkward as my new map though, it has to challenging for it to be fun ^^
18:47 SuperMoutarde: what are the changes for Easy?
18:47 lolcubes: 01:20:294 (5) - new combo here
18:47 lolcubes: 01:28:196 (2) - and this note here
18:47 lolcubes: i am not sure about this one
18:47 lolcubes: the rhythm it creates is constant
18:47 lolcubes: while the music doesn't suggest that
18:47 lolcubes: moving it to 01:28:488 - does sound better but i dunno
18:48 lolcubes: i would recomment that at least
18:48 lolcubes: maybe even add something to 01:28:781 -
18:48 lolcubes: so its less confusing lol
18:48 lolcubes: http://puu.sh/22ZOt/4dd4eef324 like this
18:48 lolcubes: a short slider
18:49 SuperMoutarde: k
18:49 lolcubes: flows better too
18:49 SuperMoutarde: yeah i know what you mean, it was a bit weird
18:50 SuperMoutarde: ok, done
18:51 lolcubes: update again so i can check the whole thing
18:51 SuperMoutarde: done
18:54 lolcubes: actually
18:54 lolcubes: in normal
18:54 lolcubes: 01:26:306 (5) -
18:54 lolcubes: i would actually just suggest 1 circle at 01:26:453 -
18:54 lolcubes: that would make the map much more readable
18:54 lolcubes: and this note on the 1/2 tick isn't that important
18:55 lolcubes: because you couldn't follow the complete melody around this area
18:55 lolcubes: losing a note here wouldn't make a huge difference on how it sounds
18:55 lolcubes: but it would make a huge difference in how it plays
18:55 lolcubes: i.e. more simple
18:55 SuperMoutarde: okey
18:56 SuperMoutarde: woops, accidentally added whistle to a whole slider
18:56 lolcubes: 01:28:196 (4) - this one right?
18:56 lolcubes: was about to say hehe
18:57 SuperMoutarde: yeah this one ^^ just fixed it and reuploaded
18:59 lolcubes: right
18:59 lolcubes: lets rebubble this
18:59 lolcubes: ill forward this to a friend so he checks it and maybe ranks it
18:59 SuperMoutarde: Yay!
18:59 SuperMoutarde: thanks a lot!