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Do you get "constantly" better or from one day to another?

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Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
This thread reminded me of something just now. I recall taking a 3-4 month break from osu! because I wasn't interested anymore. When I came back, I played Scarlet Rose my first run & made the highest score that I couldn't have possibly made before. I can't beat it now because my hands are weak.

I mean sure, there are some times where my hands are like 'oh yeah, we can rank this' or 'streamy maps pls' but most of the times out of the month, my hands just kinda flop around & freeze. It may just be that the seasons affect my ability to play. I also play better after drinking an energy drink. Don't know why, really.
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost
I got a lot better since last month but at the moment it seems I've been stuck at this skill level for a while and I think my stream stamina has gone down as well.
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
I can feel that I'm doing slightly better every week. I like doing 30min warm up routines everyday and just spend the rest of the time playing for fun. Retry some A/B ranked maps from a week ago and voila - it feels a lot easier to FC - Satisfaction :D
-GN
Champion Above Champions
734 posts
Joined June 2011
-GN

Hika wrote:

I also play better after drinking an energy drink. Don't know why, really.
Isn't that, you know, half the point of energy drinks in general?
Lance
626 posts
Joined August 2010
Lance
I get better after long breaks (1-2 weeks+). I have no idea why.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
i just suck the same every day ._.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

-GN wrote:

Hika wrote:

I also play better after drinking an energy drink. Don't know why, really.
Isn't that, you know, half the point of energy drinks in general?
I would say yes to that but in my case, no. Before my break, I sucked when I had an energy drink. Maybe it was just the fact that I double tapped instead of single tapping. Normally, my peaks of better playing during these days would be ones where I've overworked myself one day or just steal an energy drink.
EzRemake
EzRemake
Exhaustion definitely plays a big role in this. Games like Osu! are typically not the ones you want to spend hours a day playing (unless of course you love it so much you can't stop), due to the fact that once you become exhausted (whether you feel it or not) your performance will drop drastically.

I find the first 10 minutes of play is like a warm up, and then I get a good 40 minutes or so of quality performance, and then it starts to decrease quite a bit as my wrists and arms get sore. This is why I generally only play 1 hour at a time.
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama

-GN wrote:

Hika wrote:

I also play better after drinking an energy drink. Don't know why, really.
Isn't that, you know, half the point of energy drinks in general?
It's the high caffeine and sugar contents in those "energy drinks" that makes you go hyper. You gain more apm reflex wise, at the expense of rational decision making.

Too bad energy drinks don't work for me either. I play better with some CH3-CH2-OH :D
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN
Not everyday, but every now and then I do notice differences.
Vache_old
8 posts
Joined January 2013
Vache_old
I play on and off and notice a increase in skill every other play time. (Ex. Monday on, Tuesday off, ect.) I feel like I have been increasing in skill pretty fast for how I played. Disregard join date, I have been playing for a month and a half.
Icyteru
535 posts
Joined August 2011
Icyteru
well, improving slowly, but definitely there. 1 month ago, i had barely enough stamina to pass over the flood, now, it doesn't take the toll on my arm like it used to. Oh, and I managed to beat lolimarathon today and only felt tired in the last few minutes.
sCam
215 posts
Joined December 2011
sCam
I think I've reached my limit 3 months ago, now I dunno why I reallly play this game anymore. Maybe because I like Jap music, and lolis.


I don't know, some days i can pass maps with flying colors(even stream maps)
but then I have these days where I can't do them for shit...

One thing for sure..never take an extended break from Osu to play another game, you'll regret it. Hell I had to play Osu to get better at that game. Wtf, how do you even do that.
Bweh
486 posts
Joined September 2012
Bweh
The improvement curve is there, though I don't know if you can say it's there from one day to another.

It might be over a week or more, but it's there.
Triskelion91
155 posts
Joined March 2011
Triskelion91
I don't know why, but I play better when I'm tired, during the middle of the night at like 3 AM.
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
I think everyone gets better everyday. Just the fact that some people can adjust to things faster than others might make people feel discouraged and "think" they are making no progress against their peers/rivals when they actually are.

I think about it like this:
The more you play the more used to the game you get, thus the more adapt your brain is to reacting to jumps/streams/general patterns. Over time things just get easier because it's hard-printed into your mind and your reflexes know how to react effectively. (aka muscle memory) But the rate of which this happens depends on the person and how much time they dedicate to the game. Yet, everyone's brain doesn't work the same way so I could be completely wrong. (Not saying I'm right.) This doesn't just apply to games either, you can be learning a language and this theory could be applied.

So if what above is true, you are indeed getting better everyday. Even if it's the smallest amount.
Water Wolf
12 posts
Joined January 2013
Water Wolf
I have to be afk for 10 days D:

Dont know what will happen to my osu! techniques. I hope i can be better :o
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
I've been improving slowly and I'm happy with it as in other games I always get stuck in some level of skill, 5 months ago I always failed in Hard, note I'm able to pass them, even with mods them although not FCing, and some insanes too /o/
Kurangceret
69 posts
Joined May 2012
Kurangceret
Everyday I always get better accuracy, but slider break just got increased in number.
Kami-nyan
10 posts
Joined November 2012
Kami-nyan
Took me weeks or months to improve my accuracy.
Dunno about my skills now because I broke my mouse a month ago and went ctb all the time. :)
[Maid] NekoRyo
720 posts
Joined December 2012
[Maid] NekoRyo
yeah... but it takes time >.<~ i been playing for a month~ and better on playing HR And FL
aggums
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Joined September 2008
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Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri
I go with the break thing too, after a break I suck for a day and then get better. So I think its sometimes smart to take a break if you are stuck :F ?
Asx-H
10 posts
Joined December 2012
Asx-H
No, I randomly get better after like 3 weeks of not playing for a few days and thinking I suck and seeming getting worse. Vicious cycle :(

Think it's just better for yourself to play the game with different techniques and not trying for actual improvement. Also, moderation, I don't think 15 hours a day every day really helps.
silmarilen
5,582 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
i get better over time, but because the increase is so small i only really notice it every now and then so it looks like i get small bursts of skill increase
AWESOME-SAMA
22 posts
Joined July 2011
AWESOME-SAMA
Yes! Practice makes perfect, ya know.
Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri

AWESOME-SAMA wrote:

Yes! Practice makes perfect, ya know.
Yeah, that is for sure. But as I read this thread I think its good to make a break once in a while, I just ask myself when this moment is?
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
well, I stopped playing for like two weeks and, for my surprise, I was playing really better after that lol
when I try to play everyday constantly I end up playing like shit
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
I'm not improving since much time. Noticed a huge skill loss in stream speed and accuracy especially
usa
193 posts
Joined September 2012
usa
I don't notice improvements until I'm able to do a massive pp farming spree by improving ranks. Then I'm stuck in limbo and rinse and repeat.
Full Tablet
2,544 posts
Joined September 2011
Full Tablet
I seems to be slowly improving from one day to another (in average), but I seem to be gradually losing my ability to play without listening to the music (useful for very bad timed beatmaps where the music confuses instead of helping, or you just plainly hate the song).

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/20447?m=0. My most pp-worthy play was done after about 40 tries, about 4 months ago. About a week ago I played that map 60 times and I couldn't beat my record.

https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=89463&m=0. About 6 months ago I passed this map with an A (about 94% acc and lot of combo breaks), then, about 1 month later I could pass it with a better combo, but only ~85% (losing a lot of pp in that moment). Now I don't get a better record than that after dozens of tries.
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Winshley

MillhioreF wrote:

My skill level grows very slowly over time, but mostly it fluctuates. Like, one day I'll be okay, the next day I'll be totally horrible and can barely play anything, then I'll be all right, and once a month or so I get a random skill boost and set some amazing record before falling back into failhood.
This for me.

I'll see what happens when I got back from hiatus. /inb4 fresh start experience \:D/
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
I get better whenever I put myself through some extreme training for a couple of hours.
Taking any break longer than 2 days from osu! will result horribly. I feel like I've wasted so much play count by going back in skill after taking so many breaks..
Yarissa
587 posts
Joined September 2010
Yarissa
I get sudden boosts of skill when I adapt to new playstyles that work better for me. I'll usually play consistent at one level until I can adapt to playing something new. Each new playstyle has its pros and cons and I'm constantly tweaking to make my gameplay better. My most recent playstyle change was switching from cherry mx blue mechanical switches to cherry mx red mechanical switches and dear god the changes were significant. I can singletap all this stuff I couldn't before.
The Muffin Man
32 posts
Joined December 2012
The Muffin Man
I seem to get better most of the time - every day I'm beating new maps, some of which I totally gave up on only a few days ago.
Heibel
812 posts
Joined July 2011
Heibel
I do get better a lot. But i have to stop myself from playing those damn unranked maps...
Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri

Heibel wrote:

I do get better a lot. But i have to stop myself from playing those damn unranked maps...
Yeah know that. But there are so many awesome unranked maps q.q
Zamura_old
22 posts
Joined August 2010
Zamura_old
I don't usually feel like I get any better from a day to day basis, but then I go look at my youtube channel and see things I posted a few months ago and think "god, why did i think that was worth posting?" Thats how I reassure myself that yes, I actually am improving.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp

Heibel wrote:

I do get better a lot. But i have to stop myself from playing those damn unranked maps...
Wait, how is playing unranked maps bad?
Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri

Tshemmp wrote:

Heibel wrote:

I do get better a lot. But i have to stop myself from playing those damn unranked maps...
Wait, how is playing unranked maps bad?
Maybe cause you don't get PP for it? Even if the PP system isn't really an exact indicator of progress it kinda shows it. Like, a #1.200 is better than a #20.000. Even if that's not always true, in most cases I feel like it is.
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

Shadowyuri wrote:

Tshemmp wrote:

Wait, how is playing unranked maps bad?
Maybe cause you don't get PP for it? Even if the PP system isn't really an exact indicator of progress it kinda shows it. Like, a #1.200 is better than a #20.000. Even if that's not always true, in most cases I feel like it is.
Shouldn't judge people's skill by pp. I'm pretty horrible and my pp is a lot higher than it really should be. Unranked maps are fine to play because there are challenging and fun maps that aren't ranked and can certainly improve one's skill.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp

Shadowyuri wrote:

Maybe cause you don't get PP for it? Even if the PP system isn't really an exact indicator of progress it kinda shows it. Like, a #1.200 is better than a #20.000. Even if that's not always true, in most cases I feel like it is.
Hu? I don't see how having no pp is bad. You have your skill regardless of your amount of pp.
Heibel
812 posts
Joined July 2011
Heibel

Tshemmp wrote:

Shadowyuri wrote:

Hu? I don't see how having no pp is bad. You have your skill regardless of your amount of pp.
People judge you a lot by the amount of pp you have.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp

Heibel wrote:

Tshemmp wrote:

Hu? I don't see how having no pp is bad. You have your skill regardless of your amount of pp.
People judge you a lot by the amount of pp you have.
You shouldn't care about those people's opinions.
Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri

enquire wrote:

Shadowyuri wrote:

Maybe cause you don't get PP for it? Even if the PP system isn't really an exact indicator of progress it kinda shows it. Like, a #1.200 is better than a #20.000. Even if that's not always true, in most cases I feel like it is.
Shouldn't judge people's skill by pp. I'm pretty horrible and my pp is a lot higher than it really should be. Unranked maps are fine to play because there are challenging and fun maps that aren't ranked and can certainly improve one's skill.
I think I made it sound wrong? I know that PP has nothing to do with skill. But I still think a #200 can beat a #20000. Maybe you can help me here, I thought getting PP gets harder the more you have, right? So if you have lots of PP you need to FC Harder maps, which means a #200 must have ranked really high on a lot really hard maps OR has to over and over again get 1PP from Hard maps. Did I get this wrong?
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

Shadowyuri wrote:

But I still think a #200 can beat a #20000.
Unfortunately even this is not reliably true.

KaODia got all the way to #30 by playing [Normal]s and [Easy]s with fullmod. He started playing [Hard]s now so he's on #15, gogo~
Shadowyuri
106 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Shadowyuri

Aqo wrote:

Shadowyuri wrote:

But I still think a #200 can beat a #20000.
Unfortunately even this is not reliably true.

KaODia got all the way to #30 by playing [Normal]s and [Easy]s with fullmod. He started playing [Hard]s now so he's on #15, gogo~
Well in that case. I didn't say anything, just ignore me guys lol. /o/
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

Aqo wrote:

Shadowyuri wrote:

But I still think a #200 can beat a #20000.
Unfortunately even this is not reliably true.

KaODia got all the way to #30 by playing [Normal]s and [Easy]s with fullmod. He started playing [Hard]s now so he's on #15, gogo~
I think easys stop giving pp pretty early and normals stop giving pp once you are at about 5k.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

enquire wrote:

I think easys stop giving pp pretty early and normals stop giving pp once you are at about 5k.
If you add FL they give all the way to rank 300 and higher
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
It depends on the normal diff, 99% give nothing when you're above rank #2000 or so. There are always oddballs though, and KaODia probably found them amidst his easy/normal spam.
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

Aqo wrote:

enquire wrote:

I think easys stop giving pp pretty early and normals stop giving pp once you are at about 5k.
If you add FL they give all the way to rank 300 and higher
I used to play easy with all mods and I got no pp for doing that so. Normals on the other hand might still give pp at high levels but only if you get a rank 1.
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