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P-Drogan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
machol30

P-Drogan wrote:

hmmm...
For some reason, this song reminds me of another song that was virtually impossible to beat... :o
Anyway, Good job with the beat map! :D
Scene 72?: http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&s=1102
Saturos
More like Max Revolution. Max 300 is part of that damn mix of DDR songs. ;x
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Duoprism
I think you mean MAX FOREVER. The start of that is MAX 300 and it even has the same rhythm as my Heavy and Oni maps.
Saturos
Same difference. ;x

Either way, heavy and oni are not rankable as is. There's a difference between difficult/challenging hard and stupid hard. If you're happy with them as is, it can remain like a Max Forever-ish map and just stay perma-unranked while still being played by others, it just won't count towards the ranking.

If you do want MAX 300 to be ranked, I suggest just making a second version of this with easier (relatively speaking) hard versions, while keeping this one as is.
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Duoprism
I honestly think that Heavy/Insane is very clearable. Definitely very hard, but clearable.

My other Insane beatmaps are harder IMO.
James
I accept your challenge!

-- 2 minutes later --

Ack!! Oni and Heavy are, like, crazy!! :o I can S Rank Standard, but not even complete Heavy! Could you turn down Standard and Heavy, please?
Burai, this is NOT a candy, its a ROCK. Don't eat it.

I honestly think that Heavy/Insane is very clearable.
mmm.. did YOU cleared it? Without any mods?
Saturos

Reikin wrote:

My other Insane beatmaps are harder IMO.
I'm afraid to even look.

Pass them yourself before you claim they are passable. If burai can't even get halfway through without mods, the map is beyond anyone's ability.
James
So I managed to pass hard...

I can tell how horrible timed it is just by looking at how many 100s i get...

and heres a replay lolz

But still, this map is... :(
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Duoprism

Saturos wrote:

Reikin wrote:

My other Insane beatmaps are harder IMO.
I'm afraid to even look.

Pass them yourself before you claim they are passable. If burai can't even get halfway through without mods, the map is beyond anyone's ability.
I knew this would come around eventually. If I manage to pull my tablet from somewhere, I'll do it.

And someone has cleared Insane/Heavy already, as you can see. Although, I can't access the replay...
James
Don't change anything before passing it though.
You might change some hard parts in there... :)
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Duoprism
Lol that would be clear almost straight away. Don't worry I won't be doing anything of the sort.

Don't expect a replay today though... I can't find my trusty ol' tablet. :o

That being said I made a very small change to Oni (just a beat shift for a triple, nothing big), and also I have added a Light/Normal map.

I don't see why it can't be ranked, because it contains the lower difficulties as well (which MAX FOREVER lacks).

I fine-tuned the difficulty settings for Beginner, Light and Oni.
Beginner and Light were made slightly harder to kick them up into the next tier. Standard is kinda in between two tiers so I left it there. I couldn't modify Heavy as one notch down kicks it down to a lower tier score and making it even harder would probably cause consternation. Oni now has a lower drain (3 down from 5) than Heavy to offset the max difficulty. I did this because there seemed to be no score advantage for keeping the drain at 5 stars.

Also, Light isn't double countdown speed anymore, lol.

machol30

Saturos wrote:

Reikin wrote:

My other Insane beatmaps are harder IMO.
I'm afraid to even look.

Pass them yourself before you claim they are passable. If burai can't even get halfway through without mods, the map is beyond anyone's ability.
Hey, hold on. I still got to go through some more trials! I'm not very good at quick notes either... Saturos! you're better with the accuracy! If you can't complete this, then I'm pretty sure I can't either! ;P

It's similar to Scene 72, and it got rank'd! ;P
Saturos

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Saturos! you're better with the accuracy! If you can't complete this, then I'm pretty sure I can't either! ;P
Wrong kind of accuracy. I'm only good at keeping my 100 count low. I can't keep up with huge beatspacing nor fast beats.
machol30
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Duoprism
Yeah I can think of at least 3 other maps that have about similar difficulties as my Insane map (including Scene 72) that are ranked, but come with easier difficulties so I don't see why this can't be ranked.


UPDATE: Sound file has been edited. 0 offset. Please comment.
P-Drogan

Reikin wrote:

Yeah I can think of at least 3 other maps that have about similar difficulties as my Insane map (including Scene 72) that are ranked, but come with easier difficulties so I don't see why this can't be ranked.


UPDATE: Sound file has been edited. 0 offset. Please comment.
Err, the timing of most hit circles (such as the spiral in Easy mode after a break) are quite off.
I suggest you use an offset of the time when your hear the first rythmatic sound of the song you hear.
And then select all of your hit circles and move them, using the J and K keys, to the first beat you want your first hitcircle to hit.
Your Hit circle snaps to the beat if you use the J and K keys.

hope that helps.
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Duoprism
Shoddy editing. Reedited PERFECTLY. If this isn't on beat I have no idea what is.
mtmcl
Timing SOUNDED good and I SS'd and S'd the two first difficulties respectively. I haven't passed Standard yet, but I'm sure I can. So far that's on par with all the other maps. I've played through it all with nofail and seen it in the editor. It all sounds about right now.

I'm bubbling. If anyone has issues with the difficulty, you can always remove my bubble :)
James
Offset sounds like (approx) 1/4 beat off.
The reason Mark easily FC-ed the first two difficulties is because the beats are simple enough to press them. Heck, I can even FC those two without turning the music on.

I noticed this while testing standard, the first few parts are easy to press but it still feels off.
And when those fast, jumpy parts come out, I always get 100s. Don't say to me that this beatmap of yours are anti mouse because of jumpy notes, because I can press those easily.
Its just you're timing is off.
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Duoprism

James wrote:

Offset sounds like (approx) 1/4 beat off.
The reason Mark easily FC-ed the first two difficulties is because the beats are simple enough to press them. Heck, I can even FC those two without turning the music on.

I noticed this while testing standard, the first few parts are easy to press but it still feels off.
And when those fast, jumpy parts come out, I always get 100s. Don't say to me that this beatmap of yours are anti mouse because of jumpy notes, because I can press those easily.
Its just you're timing is off.
Well the top #50 isn't really an accurate spread of the Osu! community. :P

That being said, all timing issues are fixed now I think.
Sinistro
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James
Nice sarcasam you got there, too bad I'm not affected by it.
machol30
I request that you keep just one of the highest difficulties: Heavy, MAX 3000 or Oni. Delete the other two. I haven't really tried Light or MAX 3000 yet, but whatever. Other then that, I don't see why it shouldn't get rank'd. ;)
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Duoprism
This is the same map all shifted up one difficulty and more colorful and correctly timed, burai.
James
After wasting 20 minutes of my nap time trying to pass max 3000 with overall difficulty set to half, this is what I'm going to say.

Reikin, after getting your tablet, good luck on Max 3000. :)

And also I take back what I said about timing, it seems ~10ms off after I re-downloaded the song, which is really acceptable. My bad on that.
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Duoprism
At the rate my brother is holding off my raids to acquire The Tablet, I think it would be faster if I simply bought one of my own. :O

I'll probably exclude MAX 3000! for now but I'll chuck it in once someone proves it's clearable. That sound reasonable?
machol30
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
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Duoprism
I think you're the top candidate at the moment, since the rest seem to be convinced that MAX 3000! is impossible unmodded.
machol30
Umm... I don't think so!! :o
edit: I just looked at it... and... I can't see anyone completing MAX3000 without any MODs! Why don't you try it? :o lol
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Duoprism
Tell that to the ass of a brother that won't let me use the tablet. :o
Saturos
I just now realized that this is sitting with a bubble, when it should be a star. By now, though, you should know how to turn it back into a bubble. ;x

/me fixes.
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Duoprism
Well, I had a few gos at MAX 3000! with a mouse. The problem seems to lie in my aiming, something that is much easier for me with a tablet. Still I made halfway quite frequently with a device that I don't play Osu! a lot with so I still stand by that MAX 3000! is clearable.
machol30
Yeah, I haven't really thought about using mouse very much. I started last night (the only problem for mouse is it's harder to aim, especially with really small notes). I can't believe I forgot that I could use both mouse buttons for tapping! :lol:
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Duoprism
MAX 3000! will now become a part of a series of beatmaps by me that will push the top players to their limits (or not if you can't be bothered :P ). It has been removed from this beatmap and I will upload the MAX 3000! under a different name.

Maps were tweaked.
mtmcl
No more MAX 3000?

Everything else seems good.

*waits for other mods to go into nazi mode*

Okay, bubb'd.
Saturos
Light:

  1. Slider tick rate down to 0.5.
Standard:

  1. Slider tick rate down to 1.0.
Sorry, but Light having the highest possible max combo of all 4 maps is retarded.

Also note that I am still uneasy about ranking Oni. I passed it first try when I modded it tonight, but I still think I'll leave that to another mod to decide.
EiJi
Who do you go to to get crazy maps ranked? Yep. <3.

Honestly though, this is a terrible DDR to Osu port. No, I'm NOT saying you did a bad job, I'm saying this song isn't really suited for Osu. Oni is...Oni. A bit unrankable, but there are easier versions, so it's all good.
Exile_NX
Reikin gratz with approve MAX300! Of course without MAX3000 it won't be so cool, but anyway you doin cool beatmaps from IIDX, wanna more!
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Duoprism
Officially the first person to clear MAX 3000.

...This was with a mouse as well.

Download: Reikin - Reikin's Ultimate Challenge - MAX 300 [MAX 3000!] (20080518123900).osr
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