Mr Color wrote:

Hey BMin, sorry for being so late with the mod (1 month).

Alright, so first of all, I tried your BMix difficulty and I have to give you props right away: It's awesome. But let's get to the mod.

[General]
-I understand the whole difficulty name gimmick, but I have to ask if you're fine using DDRX2 diff settings (which I don't know, for the record, I don't play DDR) for consistency and whatnot. This is completely optional, but I wanted to point it out.

I understand having to name difficulties to the mapper is unnecessary for non-guest diffs, but I wanted an introduction on how each names would represent in the future guest diffs of mine.

-There's a white combo color in there. Not a huge deal especially since he background is very dark, but keep in mind that there are better options. Also, this same color is present twice in your custom color setup. I guess that was intended, but in case you didn't know, you can choose the color of the next combo selecting the note you want the new combo on and clicking the little arrow next to the New Combo button.

I never knew how to use that feature. Thanks for teaching me. I'll definitely make it into use for my future difficulties.

-This background for harder diffs has been used several times on maps like ALBIDA and THE LAST STRIKER, only with different colors. Maybe find another one? Up to you. I like the theme with the colors, by the way.

Thanks, and I should have saw that coming. I'll look for a better BG for harder difficulties.

-I'd recommend Tick Rate 2.

This is awesome! Will fix.

[BMix]
00:46:078 (9,10,11,12) - This flows kind of awkardly, in my opinion. I think for this whole combo it would be better to just leave the accelerated spacing and remove the rotation, you'd have very good flow throughout the whole combo.

Agree and will fix.

01:01:862 (3,4,5) - I think this would be better, and sends out the player right into the next combo, giving nice flow:

The idea is tempting, but I don't want to mute those notes with a slider. I would like them to be hit.

[BMax]
00:04:132 (2) - I suggest you make this have the same angle as the previous slider, mainly for esthetic reasons

I think this is rather a subjective problem. For example, I would like it this way then having an identical slider.

00:10:943 (2) - I think a Ctrl-G on this slider should work quite well (don't forget to do the same for the next sliders if you decide to change that)

Agree. It seems like I'm throwing in a jump quiet early, but I think they can get it over with (well, hopefully).

00:14:511 (2) - Same as before here. These are sliders so you can have larger spacing than usual on these and still be playable (like the time you used accelerated spacing on these sliders on BMax, now that was great)

Not making an identical slider like above. Nevermind, I accelerated the spacing a bit. Thanks.

00:20:673 (6,7) - Kinda weird to have these so close to the slider. You're building up speed with accelerated spacing, and it just falls flat here. I say increase the spacing and give it a little bit of an angle. x:408 y:372 looks just fine for this, IMO.

Agree and will fix.

00:41:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - These 1/3 are not immediately obvious to the player, especially since you're stacking them at the beginning. Maybe just use a slider with a kick instead of these three circles. It will kinda break the pattern but you get great readability (the next ones can stay since the player is locked into the 1/3 rhythm thanks to the slider)

Awesome. I'll fix that.

01:01:700 (1) - I recommend this instead (better spacing and also for reasons quoted in the BMix diff)

Still tempting, but declined for the same reason.

01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I really don't like this ending very much, it feels very dull. I'm sure you can find something else to do with it.

SPOILER

◎◎◎◎◎◎
◎◎◎◎◎◎
◎◎◎◎◎◎

I know... but I want to keep that ^ theme for the last part. I'll change around the order so it becomes a jump and see how that goes.

[BMed]
00:04:132 (1,2) - I'd suggest making this into a 1/1 slider and keeping the (2) because the rhythm is kinda awkward.
00:09:322 (1,2) - Same, of course.
00:14:511 (1,2) - Once again.
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - This looks very ugly. I'm sure you can arrange this to make a better shape (don't focus on keeping distance snap on at all times, such a small difference shouldn't matter)

All agreed. Will fix it.

[BMin]
Overall, this has quite awkward rhythms for an Easy map. I know that on such a song, it can't really be helped, but try to guide the player as much as possible.
00:02:349 - Add a circle here to guide the player. The previous pattern you have makes it unclear when to hit the note.
00:07:538 - Same here.

I agree to both. Will fix it.

00:08:349 (5) - I would make this into a 2-measure slider to guide the player into the next one. Circles work also.

I'm half and half for this, but feels like I'm not giving them a second to practice reading the approach circle.

00:12:727 - Once again.

Agree.

00:59:916 (1) - Why not making this a spinner? It fits, and you had one here in BMed.

I didn't want to surprise them with a short spinner.

01:34:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Once again this feels quite dull. Since by now the player knows what to expect of the song, I'd suggest turning these into 3/4 sliders with a returnarrow, so that they flow nicely.

I'm planing on fixing this part involving no 1/3s to hit.

Although the map is rather standard in the easier difficulties, you managed to make a very good Hard and Insane. I'm definitely going to enjoy this once it's ranked. Good luck!

Nichiyouki wrote:

BMin

1. 00:00:241 (1) - I heard cymbal here in the song. Add finish here I'm a disbeliever in starting with Finish hitsound, but I guess it's fine. Fixed.
2. 00:02:673 (4,5) - There are 3/2 beat. You can change to a slider. Denied. I want to introduce the idea of the spacing, since this is pretty vital for even easier diffs nowadays.

BMed

1. The spacing of notes are many different. I suggest that consider those. Most are 1.10x and even if there are changes, they are mostly between 1/1 beats, so I think it'll be fine.
2. 00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
3. 00:09:332 (7) - You can notice NC in 00:04:132, so please add NC here. Fixed.
4. 00:10:943 (1) - Move to up 1 grid be better. Fixed.
5. 00:25:538 (1) - Add NC here, since this note follows a spinner. Modded by Kawayi Rika. Thanks though.

BMax

1. 00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
2. 00:20:997 (7) - Add NC here by listen to the rhythm of song. Denied. The appearance is ugly and the spinner does it's job for that change, so I don't think that note deserves a whole new combo for itself.
3. 01:10:132 (6) - Move to up 2 grids? Fixed (that was rather stupid of me).

BMix

1. 00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
2. 00:20:997 (6) - Add NC here by same as Hard diff. Denied for the same reason.

1. 00:00:565 (2) - Definitely can be reworked - try this one:
   

   384,72,565,2,0,B|319:44|250:77|250:77|187:109|120:74,1,270

2. 00:52:457 (2,3,4,5) - Umm, why don't you stack (5) to previous (6) regardless of the spacing, it's much neater that way~ - It can be achieved with this arrangement though:
   

   16,296,52457,1,8,0:0:0
   0,136,53105,1,8,0:0:0
   165,124,53754,1,8,0:0:0
   176,287,54403,1,8,0:0:0

3. 01:43:376 (1) - Use repeating 1/1 slider instead for the ending? It lands on more beat though (and gives the better feeling from the music)

1. 00:04:943 (3) - Just a suggestion here, put the endpoint in ~x:326 y:34 so this slider will point to your next (1) instead?
2. 00:25:538 (1,2) - Hmm, stacking actually ruins symmetry a bit here, considering the song's flow I recommend a manual-stack like this instead (plays dramatic as well!~)
   

   273,60,25538,5,0,0:0:0
   264,74,25862,1,0,0:0:0

3. 00:46:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This symmetry here - I think you can somewhat play with a little bit wider spacing so (4,5) is centered for beauty, I don't think it will be hard to catch~
4. 01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - Uhm, (5,6)'s jump - is it intentional? If it is, I prefer something like this though so (5) and (8) will feel connected to each other:
   

   496,310,82619,1,2,0:0:0
   466,263,82781,1,0,0:0:0
   418,235,82943,1,2,0:0:0
   363,231,83105,1,2,0:0:0
   312,254,83268,5,0,0:0:0

5. 01:23:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ...if you followed suggestion above, then with the current (1)'s placement, you can arrange these eight into a neat pentagon (:

1. 00:00:241 (1,2) - Stack this in the center of (3,4,5)'s circle instead? Aside from beautifying, it will also avoid overlap between (2) and (5)'s comboburst~
2. 00:19:700 (4) - Uhm, I suppose this should be on ~x:418 y:262? o.o (if you do this don't forget to adjust (6,7) more to the right)
3. 00:26:997 (5) - ...personally a slider wave works better here I think (avoids clustering as well)
4. 00:59:916 (1,2) - Will be more fun imo if you can split this into four sliders arranging a fan :3
5. 01:07:700 (1) - Uhm, why don't you just stack this to the previous 01:06:727 (2) instead...
6. 01:12:565 (2) - Put in ~x:332 y:212, then CTRL+G for great circular movement here?
7. 01:43:376 (4) - Move higher to ~y:110, and:
8. 01:43:700 (6,7,8,9,10) - I get your idea to make a symmetry here, but I much prefer manual-stacking downward like this - it's more readable and gives more impression towards the ending imo (:
   

   256,272,103700,1,0,0:0:0
   255,282,103781,1,0,0:0:0
   255,292,103862,1,0,0:0:0
   255,302,103943,1,0,0:0:0
   255,312,104024,1,0,0:0:0

1. 00:13:538 (1) - Remove the repeat and add a note elsewhere (perhaps stacked under slider's end) on 00:14:186? A jump like this plays much better than your current anti-jump imo...
2. 00:20:997 (6) - CTRL+J? The spinner looks good this way imo because of the two opposite combobursts (:
3. 00:25:538 (3,4) - Minor stuff here, put in ~x:259 y:294 so they'll look correct in play mode (due to stacking's nature)?
4. 00:29:916 (4,5,6,1) - I think if you can arrange these four into a sudden diamond jump it'll play better and give more energy :3
5. 01:12:240 (1,2,3,4) - If possible I'd stack (3) to your previous (4) here, perhaps with this diamond-like arrangement:
   

   344,284,72240,5,2,0:0:0
   124,58,72403,1,2,0:0:0
   145,241,72565,1,2,0:0:0
   328,134,72727,1,2,0:0:0

6. 01:43:943 (6,7) - Move these two upward so the end will be v-shaped stream? Looks better this way imo xD

Niva wrote:

[General]

-> Don't forget to add 'DDR' in tags, orz :3

Fixed and checked if there aren't any I missed.

-> On Min and Med, perhaps try to use silent/quieter slidertick at the 00:41:754 and 01:23:268 part? I think this song uses Polymeter, the beats are 4/4 but the synth are playing in 3/4 - that's why slidertick every 1/1 doesn't really work here~

Agreed and Fixed

-> A lot of this song's closed cymbals (as example, 00:23:592) actually fits with soft hitfinish (use Sampleset: Normal Addition: Soft on this one) xD

Interesting, but it feels like it's disrupting the closed cymbal imo.


[BMin]

1. 00:00:565 (2) - Definitely can be reworked
   
   Thanks, and fixed.
   
   
2. 00:52:457 (2,3,4,5) - Umm, why don't you stack (5) to previous (6) regardless of the spacing, it's much neater that way~
   
   Looks much better. Thanks, and fixed.
   
   
3. 01:43:376 (1) - Use repeating 1/1 slider instead for the ending? It lands on more beat though (and gives the better feeling from the music)
   
   I guess it would be pointless to give a difference with BMed like this. Fixed.

[BMed]

1. 00:04:943 (3) - Just a suggestion here, put the endpoint in ~x:326 y:34 so this slider will point to your next (1) instead?
   
   Fixed.
   
   
2. 00:25:538 (1,2) - Hmm, stacking actually ruins symmetry a bit here, considering the song's flow I recommend a manual-stack like this instead (plays dramatic as well!~)
   
   I love the effect, but I'm also equally worried that people might find it confusing if I overlap 1/1 notes. I think I'll give it a shot. Thanks, and Fixed.
   
   
3. 00:46:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This symmetry here - I think you can somewhat play with a little bit wider spacing so (4,5) is centered for beauty, I don't think it will be hard to catch~
   
   Fixed.
   
   
4. 01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - Uhm, (5,6)'s jump - is it intentional? If it is, I prefer something like this though so (5) and (8) will feel connected to each other:
   
   Ya, that looks way better. Thanks.
   
   
5. 01:23:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ...if you followed suggestion above, then with the current (1)'s placement, you can arrange these eight into a neat pentagon (:
   
   That was exactly my thought when I fisr saw it lol Fixed.

[BMax]

1. 00:00:241 (1,2) - Stack this in the center of (3,4,5)'s circle instead? Aside from beautifying, it will also avoid overlap between (2) and (5)'s comboburst~
   
   Fixed in a different way
   
   
2. 00:19:700 (4) - Uhm, I suppose this should be on ~x:418 y:262? o.o (if you do this don't forget to adjust (6,7) more to the right)
   
   Fixed
   
   
3. 00:26:997 (5) - ...personally a slider wave works better here I think (avoids clustering as well)
   
   Couldn't work on that. Sorry.
   
   
4. 00:59:916 (1,2) - Will be more fun imo if you can split this into four sliders arranging a fan :3
   
   Fixed
   
   
5. 01:07:700 (1) - Uhm, why don't you just stack this to the previous 01:06:727 (2) instead...
   
   Didn't want to give too big of a change in angle (that was the smallest angle I could get).
   
   
6. 01:12:565 (2) - Put in ~x:332 y:212, then CTRL+G for great circular movement here?
   
   Interesting, but I would rather keep the movement like 01:09:646 (3,4,5,6) - with a change in spacing. Also, I would rather keep those pattern separated.
   
   
7. 01:43:376 (4) - Move higher to ~y:110, and:
8. 01:43:700 (6,7,8,9,10) - I get your idea to make a symmetry here, but I much prefer manual-stacking downward like this - it's more readable and gives more impression towards the ending imo (:
   
   Both are fixed. Thanks.

[BMix]

1. 00:13:538 (1) - Remove the repeat and add a note elsewhere (perhaps stacked under slider's end) on 00:14:186? A jump like this plays much better than your current anti-jump imo...
   
   Fixed the pattern instead.
   
   
2. 00:20:997 (6) - CTRL+J? The spinner looks good this way imo because of the two opposite combobursts (:
   
   I wanted to focus on the note and minimize the movement. Tempting though.
   
   
3. 00:25:538 (3,4) - Minor stuff here, put in ~x:259 y:294 so they'll look correct in play mode (due to stacking's nature)?
   
   Fixed.
   
   
4. 00:29:916 (4,5,6,1) - I think if you can arrange these four into a sudden diamond jump it'll play better and give more energy :3
   
   I'll contact you in-game, because I couldn't figure out how you wanted this to be fixed (the diamond part).
   
   
5. 01:12:240 (1,2,3,4) - If possible I'd stack (3) to your previous (4) here, perhaps with this diamond-like arrangement:
   
   I think the jump is way to drastic. Fixed so it stacks.
   
   
6. 01:43:943 (6,7) - Move these two upward so the end will be v-shaped stream? Looks better this way imo xD
   
   I think I would just keep it clean and simple.

One other thing worth mentioning is you can add a short kiai on the last note though, it's a REALLY big note and it really fits (:

I'll keep it as it is. It would be like having fire works for shutting a massive door closed. Thanks though.

1. OD8? I think high OD is quite suitable for this music and diff.

ykcarrot wrote:

[General]
Remove audio stream from the video. Fixed.


[BMix]

1. OD8? I think high OD is quite suitable for this music and diff.

01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music.

Both are fixed.


This diff is so sexy. >_<


[BMax]
00:25:538 (2,3) - Since you made manual stacking in BMix diff, thus they need to be like them in BMix imo. Fixed.
00:28:132 (7) - Maybe add NC? to be consistent with 00:30:727 (1) 그 슬라이더들은 점프다보니 크게 이질감이 느껴질것 같진 않아요.
00:52:943 (3,4) - They are not symmetry. 00:52:457 (2,5) - Because you've symmetrized them. Fixed.
01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.


[BMed]
00:25:538 (1,2,1) - I read Niva's post. Well, I'd rather vertical stacking in this case. http://puu.sh/1FQMY 니바쪽이 더 맘에 드네요 (대칭이 문제긴 하지만 서로 다른 패턴으로 취급할려구요).
01:44:024 (3) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.


[BMin]
01:43:376 (1) - Needs finish at end to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.


That's all. Call me back when you ready.

EDIT : fixed icon >w<

Mimineko wrote:

For me the taiko chart is a bit easy (First time seen FC)
Well.....it is fun, but as a DDR Boss song I think it is better to get harder?
Would you mind if I post my difficulty here as well? =D

bmin11 wrote:

I just tested your difficulty (ran it on auto). Personally, I couldn't tell a big different in the challenge department compare to Shino's difficulty. Probably because I would fail both difficulties anyway, but that's my thought.

The last part felt odd. Maybe you should try DDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKK. This way, the pattern will repeat along with the song. I guess this would pull down the difficulty, but in my opinion, the last pattern should change.



Oh and update your difficulty before you edit. I changed your tag and added a BG

But the main thing is to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

Mimineko wrote:

to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

Light Usagi wrote:

short mod... orz

[Shino]
00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

[nekoMimi]
I think there are so many copy&pastes? hehehe
00:02:692 (16,48) - k?
00:13:070 (85, 127) - k?
00:19:557 (137) - k
00:41:773 ~ 00:51:287 - remove finishes from / add finishes to all notes
01:23:287 ~ 01:33:449 - same as above.
01:33:665 ~ end - don't put big notes in the middle of stream, it's a little hard to press..

Mimineko wrote:

to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

but we should make the map still enjoyable to play too, without overmapping it~

CoroQuetz wrote:

[Mimineko Oni]
Use same offset as Shino's diff please, it's currently off-beat.
Disable countdown and letterboxing
00:23:449 (141) - add finish
01:34:097 (601) - no mid-stream finishes please, only as first or last note. (I know Taiko does it but osu doesn't allow it.) Remove finish (and for all like this).
I like the SV multiplier changes though~

good luck with rank~

Light Usagi wrote:

00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

CoroQuetz wrote:

00:25:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - add finish? I think it sounds better.