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Two_old
if you want this forum to be active again you need 2 things:

1. a reliable high-quality host (can be a collaboration, that might be better)

2. a sponsor

host(s) make the game, sponsor offers osu subscriptions/whatevertheyare to the team that wins

advertise in-game on osu

have a morality clause for the sake of retaining the new players

presto you have more people
Topic Starter
0_o

Two wrote:

2. a sponsor

host(s) make the game, sponsor offers osu subscriptions/whatevertheyare to the team that wins
Not too sure about this. People get agitated enough in this game; putting more on the line might make the game a bit too serious and put too much pressure on players.
LadySuburu

JInxyjem wrote:

Another replacement anyone?
If you can't find one, then I guess I should.
bmin11

0_o wrote:

Not too sure about this. People get agitated enough in this game; putting more on the line might make the game a bit too serious and put too much pressure on players.
I can see how bad it could end up, but inactive is even worth imo. Other then that, having more pressure would be interesting to watch.
Topic Starter
0_o

bmin11 wrote:

0_o wrote:

Not too sure about this. People get agitated enough in this game; putting more on the line might make the game a bit too serious and put too much pressure on players.
I can see how bad it could end up, but inactive is even worth imo. Other then that, having more pressure would be interesting to watch.
I'll admit it would be an interesting experiment. If the game were restricted to the mafia veterans who could handle it then it could work I suppose.
Ivalset

0_o wrote:

I'll admit it would be an interesting experiment. If the game were restricted to the mafia veterans who could handle it then it could work I suppose.
Doesn't that defeat the entire point in the first place, to draw in new players?
Topic Starter
0_o

Ivalset wrote:

0_o wrote:

I'll admit it would be an interesting experiment. If the game were restricted to the mafia veterans who could handle it then it could work I suppose.
Doesn't that defeat the entire point in the first place, to draw in new players?
I didn't think it was as much to draw in new players as it was getting people who already play to care about the game.
Lilac
I could probably do some sponsoring...

...Maybe not osu! subscriptions, it would have to be...I dunno. Cash in paypal? Might be a while before I get money though.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Lilac wrote:

...Maybe not osu! subscriptions, it would have to be...I dunno. Cash in paypal? Might be a while before I get money though.
That's if everyone uses paypal.

I don't.
Topic Starter
0_o

Lilac wrote:

I could probably do some sponsoring...

...Maybe not osu! subscriptions, it would have to be...I dunno. Cash in paypal? Might be a while before I get money though.
Steam games!
Wojjan
Deus Ex MVP gets free Deus Ex
Salvage
Why now wojjan why now
Rantai
Wow this hidden mod just gave me an idea about an "anon" mafia game (eliminating meta).

I lack the capacity to host but that could be a tool used for such a game.

*in the sense that if tweaked it can hide names and flags and all that.
Jinxy
I remember someone suggesting that, and using a QT while asking each person to use "Person 1" as names.
NoHitter
Wojjan makes amazing role PMs!
I wish I could make role PMs like those...
Wojjan
This is why I take forever I guess! I'm sure you'll all appreciate the amount of flavor that's gonna go down in touhou pyp, from my experience that's what can make games really nice to read, even if it's just an aside.
Lilac
Apparently a lot of people liked the Inducer setup I did... I could probably modify it a bit more to accompany more players...but hmm, it sure is high in probability in terms of winning.
Wojjan
Please just laugh at my ineptitude once we make this a scrapbook moment it'll be less painful to remember
NoHitter
Looking for a replacement for Mafia in the Dark!
Mashley
We could have run like 2 other games in the time Wojjan's taking to start touhou
Thanks for killing the mafia forum Woj
DeathxShinigami

NoHitter wrote:

Looking for a replacement for Mafia in the Dark!
Willing to replace whoever in the game. Been so long since I've played actual forum mafia.
NoHitter
Looking for another replacement for Mafia in the Dark.
Salvage
t/81376 Check this guys! :D
Mashley
Anyone want to replace Rantai in Celebrity PYP II?
Jinxy
I guess I could.
Mashley
Need another replacement, anyone up for it?
NoHitter
I'll be busy until Monday as I have my finals.
Sorry guys! I'll be sure to contribute more after I study.
Mashley
Guys can someone please replace in?
Jinxy
I'll be overseas for a week starting tomorrow, so I might not be able to check this forum until at the hotel or something where there's wifi I guess.
NoHitter
FTR Mashley, I can replace in if you want to.
Topic Starter
0_o
Should there be a thread specifically for replacements? I.e., people offering to replace, requests for replacements, etc.
NoHitter
OK guys. If a 9-P game can't be "active" then the forum is dead.
We may need to take a break from the long games.
Sync
i want to do earthbound mafia but i can't be fucked

somebody do it for me please i'll even join and be active maybe

edit: nevermind, found mafia.txt
Kanye West
so uh, tbte is banned

need me to replace in for him?
NoHitter
Hmm...
I still have replacements available, but thanks!
NoHitter
Double post, but meh 2 months anyway.

I find it ironic that from a game with no information available whatsoever, we're now playing a game with possibly plenty of information available.
pieguyn
if we can ever get 2 more players :cry:
Lincolm
I can't help myself check this thread every hour. Damn...
Quaraezha
Do you guys need a player?
Also, just happened to visit.
Lincolm
I would like to say, "Yes, we are"

More is better and merrier.
Quaraezha
Link to the thread please.
Lincolm
There is no open or in-progress mafia now. I just wait them make the other one game. Sorry for confuse you.
bmin11
I'll probably play as well
Quaraezha
Oh, okay. :v
Sleep Powder
If someone actually starts a new game, I think I might take up any unused slots.
Lincolm
Seems our most frequently moderator (I like to said best moderator) still busy. I still doubt if everyone want to play vengeful mafia.
Kanye West
I'm willing to host a game, however I have final exams in 2 weeks so I'll be busy. After that I should be able to though
NoHitter
Go host then Lincolm :)
Elisha_old
How much time and effort does setting up a game like this take :shock:
Lincolm
For setting up a game, I think a hour the thread ready.

For prepare all of the player, usually 2 - 3 days.

For the game, depends on the deadline of the day and night, I think total a day and a night is 10 days enough. Depends on how many player, usually 9, so the maximum 40 days. Can lower or higher.
Elisha_old
Interesting
Lincolm
I think we need Conspiracy for bring back the activity. Very easy setup and fun.
Lincolm
Now this subtopic is deserted. Unfortunate...
Tsukasa
Well while we're trying to revive Mafia in the osu! world...

I suggest we focus on newbie games first.
Get alot of people to play mafia again. This does not mean we will only host newbie games though... We can still make other games, though we would have priority to newbie games.

Regarding this. We should have a signup topic for newbie games. Similar to the signups in http://forum.mafiascum.net

The player list of each game would have:
6 newbies
2 Semi-experienced players
1 Inexperience Challenged player.

Semi-experienced players (Or SE for short) are players with experience but are not fully qualified to be "teachers" of the game. Basically these are not-so-newbie-newbies. SE players can also be experienced players but don't have the "patience" to teach newbies the get-go of mafia games.

IC players are very experienced players who are in charge of teaching the basics of mafia games. They should be nice as well. But they should know how to separate being nice and playing the game. They must also be commited to play mafia. Finding an IC is hard enough. Finding a relacement for one would be a nightmare. For more informations on ICs, Please reffer to this wiki link: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... 0good%20IC

With regards to starting a newbie game. We would need a new topic which focuses on sign-ups for newbie games.

A list mod is required to start this. A list mod governs all sign-ups for games. They must keep track of game-ins and mod-ins. And the list mod is the only one with the authority to give you permission in starting the game. We should make a sign-up queue similar to this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21345
Sakura
So basically you're copying everything identical to mafiascum.net?
Lybydose
The biggest problem here is people who sign up and sit around inactive. Big sites can easily replace people, but we almost always have problems around here. I'm actually surprised that the two replacements in the current game are actually active, most replacements here post even LESS than the person they replace.
Sakura
Yeah i didn't do much on my first game since i had no idea what i was doing, but the thing about newbie games is that there should be at least ONE person that is willing to teach them.

IMO i think it'd be easier for people to get introduced to mafia on mafiascum rather than here if they really want to learn the basics. The 2of4 setup is just a newbie friendly setup, but for a newbie game to exist, we really need someone in the game giving advice as well as playing their role, do you know anyone in here with enough experience and will to do such a thing?

Edit: I can be an active player, but if threads are pretty dead like the current game, i don't feel much reason in posting just for the sake of posting, we really need to find a way to bring motivation to people to play.
Tsukasa
So we focus on having experienced people first? Try to get them active again. *cough* Like sync *cough*
Tsukasa

Sakura wrote:

So basically you're copying everything identical to mafiascum.net?
Well... We have to start somewhere
Sakura
Because you know, if this is going to be exactly like MS then i rather play there which is a bigger community, you need to do something different to sell it to the community.
Raging Bull
Post it under announcement then haha. Although i think a lot of people cant find or dont know we have this game
Quaraezha
Hi, I've been playing a few games at epicmafia and I want to say that I've kinda improved.
If anyone makes a mafia, please invite me. Okay.
Lincolm
Ah Epicmafia. They said that place very crazy. I should try sometimes. :lol:
Sakura
Epicmafia is nothing compared to forum mafia, just saying.
Yeah i've played there, but the people in there Random Lynch, No-Lynch too much rather than discussing
Quaraezha
There's quite a lot of people with experience who knows the all the strategy. A lot of ragey people too who insults pretty much everyone.
Lincolm

Quaraezha wrote:

A lot of ragey people too who insults pretty much everyone.
OK. I won't go there.
Tsukasa
Yeah link can't handle insluts

Not offense bro ;)
Quaraezha
Most of these experienced players and ragey people are usually in Ranked matches.
The unranked matches are usually casual, full of conversational people but mostly newbies.
I hang out in unranked usually just to get used to the setup more.
NoHitter
gj Kanye. So much activity.
Raging Bull

NoHitter wrote:

gj Kanye. So much activity.
You should have joined!

And if the activity will remain like this then the night phases will go by so sloowwwww
NoHitter
Actually I'm generally horrible with real active games. In a big game, I tend to lurk more since I can't accurately give my reads.
Tsukasa

NoHitter wrote:

gj Kanye. So much activity.
Too much activity...

I leave for 2 days and they leave me 15 pages to read and a night start.

OMG
Kanye West
The activity is great.

We should definitely have more themed games like this, makes it more interesting.
Lincolm
Next themed game, DotA. :D
Tsukasa
I won't be around for that anymore :(
bmin11
Wow 46 pages. It's only been 8 days as well.

I'll definitely be in for DotA themed mafia
Nyquill
We're looking for a replacement for Dulcet in oddrole, seeing he hasn't responded to my prod yet.
Kanye West
I'm in if you still need someone.
bmin11
game already on going after 7 hours from the first post

I guess need to be more active to even join a game now
Sakura
I could have you signed up for replcament if needed, and if you want to.
bmin11
Sure. I'll start following the thread.
bmin11

JInxyjem wrote:

Fuck you Rantai and your Youmu Seraph Knight
Good times 8-)
Raging Bull
Can we have non newbie mafia next game? I wanna see people play other roles besides the basic VT/cop/doc/maf. Probably too much though.
bmin11

Raging Bull wrote:

Can we have non newbie mafia next game? I wanna see people play other roles besides the basic VT/cop/doc/maf. Probably too much though.
NoHitter should be holding next, which is small town Dota mafia. Not sure how small town will turn out.
Raging Bull
Gimmie vig pls nohitter.
Raging Bull
bmin, replace tsukasa in LoL mafia and give us the win
bmin11
no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
NoHitter
To anyone who asks me as well:

bmin11 wrote:

no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
bmin11
Oh wait I think I know what RB means lol

Sorry, but that would be lame
Kanye West
it's okay guys

I'll just spam him ingame until he posts.

if/when he logs in
Raging Bull

bmin11 wrote:

Oh wait I think I know what RB means lol

Sorry, but that would be lame

Well I tried.

NoHitter wrote:

To anyone who asks me as well:

bmin11 wrote:

no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
Hahahaha
Rantai
... damn it, I want to see the jesterfest game make a comeback >_<
NoHitter
Just a note, I set up a Spectator/Dead chat for DOTA Smalltown, so if you're interested in joining in and discussing (with spoilers ofc) you can PM me.
Tanzklaue
if a nooby friendly game opens up i may join in, though I'm in the end phase of my finals so I probably won't have time for another 2 weeks or so.
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

if a nooby friendly game opens up i may join in, though I'm in the end phase of my finals so I probably won't have time for another 2 weeks or so.
I'll probably run another newbie friendly game after i'm done with this one.
bmin11
I kind of wish I could play another Wojjan mafia. I miss those role PMs.
Raging Bull
Bug her
LadySuburu
Did someone say Wojjan?

...

Cause I'm not Wojjan.
Kanye West
Wojjan still hasn't started that Touhou mafia from like a year ago. I still have my role PM sitting in my inbox. Wojjan pls.

P.S. the PM was one of the most well-written things I have ever seen, like damn
bmin11
I kept all role PMs from Wojjan.

Wojjan wrote:

The date today is 11/11/11. It doesn't mean anything to you aside from being the day you were plucked! Hooray!

You are A sour grape. You have only recently been cultivated - and promptly thrown away due to your pack's sour taste - and have landed in this kind of place, where apparently bad things are going on! Oh no! You have sworn to your farmer that you will do anything within the powers of a sour grape to stop everyone from dong bad things! I mean, that's even assuming the farmer is around here, which, since he threw you away, he probably isn't... But still! Doing bad things is bad! You shouldn't do them, mafia! Not unless you want to taste a very sour grape! Oh, whoever cuts you open is gonna get acid in their eyes, just you wait! Er, just they wait.

You are a bomb. You have no action overnight, but whichever role ends up killing you off will get poured on by incredibly tart juice, melting them right off their sockers. You are sided with the town.

You may use your quicktopic for any personal needs, but for the night to move on you must at least post in it once.

Wojjan wrote:

Love will stop the rain,
even without an umbrella




5. bmin11 - In the rain

You are In the rain, by Leessang. A forceful tidbit of Korean hiphop, your lyrics tell a tale of sadness, mostly. About two people seeking happy ends. You're a kind of song that people hear and immediately think that it could mean something to someone thye know. Recognisable in its uniqueness.

Unique as you may be, you are but a Vanilla Townie. I say but, but a townie is one of the strongest roles in the game, equipped with the most lethal weapon of all, a lynch vote. Overday, you cast your vote on those people you suspect of being part of the songfia. Overnight, you sort of wait to get killed, really. But that won't stop you from reaching your happy end.

Wojjan wrote:

bmin11 was LeeSsang's In the Rain. Korean hiphop in its full glory, the combination of forceful voice and impressive lyrics about a loved one could have been called cliché, but he didn't mind. He was one of many, and didn't really care to stand out that much. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Wojjan wrote:

"This year's summer sure is peaceful. It's good to be bored, probably."

You are Reimu Hakurei, Shrine Maiden of Paradise. You are a shrine maiden in the Hakurei namesake, the last of your bloodline. While lately you mostly set out on incidents, it is also your duty to uphold the Hakurei barrier, which protects Gensokyo from the outer world. As a true and pure maiden, you are of course beside yourself that the youkai could manage a means of organised crime as they are doing. You don't know who's behind it quite yet but rest assured you'll find out. And exterminate them. For real, this time. No tea involved.

You decided to put your latest spellcard Dream Sign "Fantasy Dimensional Rift" to some more good use since Aya had her spiel. With this card, you can blink right away from danger should you need to, but since it leaves an enormous residual of mana, it's your duty as a shrine maiden to make sure that power gets correctly done away with later on. You are a commuter. During the game, you may choose at night to commute, and hide yourself from any actions performed on you. Investigations will obtain no result, kills will not go through. Special roles like a busdriver, say, will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, and the specifics are left for you to puzzle out when such an occasion would occur. However, if you do commute, you will not be able to the next night, leaving you entirely vulnerable. Commuting is an action that can be roleblocked.


Honestly, Wojjan makes you feel good to play even as a Vanilla Townie.
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