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Quaraezha
Do you guys need a player?
Also, just happened to visit.
Lincolm
I would like to say, "Yes, we are"

More is better and merrier.
Quaraezha
Link to the thread please.
Lincolm
There is no open or in-progress mafia now. I just wait them make the other one game. Sorry for confuse you.
bmin11
I'll probably play as well
Quaraezha
Oh, okay. :v
Sleep Powder
If someone actually starts a new game, I think I might take up any unused slots.
Lincolm
Seems our most frequently moderator (I like to said best moderator) still busy. I still doubt if everyone want to play vengeful mafia.
Kanye West
I'm willing to host a game, however I have final exams in 2 weeks so I'll be busy. After that I should be able to though
NoHitter
Go host then Lincolm :)
Elisha_old
How much time and effort does setting up a game like this take :shock:
Lincolm
For setting up a game, I think a hour the thread ready.

For prepare all of the player, usually 2 - 3 days.

For the game, depends on the deadline of the day and night, I think total a day and a night is 10 days enough. Depends on how many player, usually 9, so the maximum 40 days. Can lower or higher.
Elisha_old
Interesting
Lincolm
I think we need Conspiracy for bring back the activity. Very easy setup and fun.
Lincolm
Now this subtopic is deserted. Unfortunate...
Tsukasa
Well while we're trying to revive Mafia in the osu! world...

I suggest we focus on newbie games first.
Get alot of people to play mafia again. This does not mean we will only host newbie games though... We can still make other games, though we would have priority to newbie games.

Regarding this. We should have a signup topic for newbie games. Similar to the signups in http://forum.mafiascum.net

The player list of each game would have:
6 newbies
2 Semi-experienced players
1 Inexperience Challenged player.

Semi-experienced players (Or SE for short) are players with experience but are not fully qualified to be "teachers" of the game. Basically these are not-so-newbie-newbies. SE players can also be experienced players but don't have the "patience" to teach newbies the get-go of mafia games.

IC players are very experienced players who are in charge of teaching the basics of mafia games. They should be nice as well. But they should know how to separate being nice and playing the game. They must also be commited to play mafia. Finding an IC is hard enough. Finding a relacement for one would be a nightmare. For more informations on ICs, Please reffer to this wiki link: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... 0good%20IC

With regards to starting a newbie game. We would need a new topic which focuses on sign-ups for newbie games.

A list mod is required to start this. A list mod governs all sign-ups for games. They must keep track of game-ins and mod-ins. And the list mod is the only one with the authority to give you permission in starting the game. We should make a sign-up queue similar to this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21345
Sakura
So basically you're copying everything identical to mafiascum.net?
Lybydose
The biggest problem here is people who sign up and sit around inactive. Big sites can easily replace people, but we almost always have problems around here. I'm actually surprised that the two replacements in the current game are actually active, most replacements here post even LESS than the person they replace.
Sakura
Yeah i didn't do much on my first game since i had no idea what i was doing, but the thing about newbie games is that there should be at least ONE person that is willing to teach them.

IMO i think it'd be easier for people to get introduced to mafia on mafiascum rather than here if they really want to learn the basics. The 2of4 setup is just a newbie friendly setup, but for a newbie game to exist, we really need someone in the game giving advice as well as playing their role, do you know anyone in here with enough experience and will to do such a thing?

Edit: I can be an active player, but if threads are pretty dead like the current game, i don't feel much reason in posting just for the sake of posting, we really need to find a way to bring motivation to people to play.
Tsukasa
So we focus on having experienced people first? Try to get them active again. *cough* Like sync *cough*
Tsukasa

Sakura wrote:

So basically you're copying everything identical to mafiascum.net?
Well... We have to start somewhere
Sakura
Because you know, if this is going to be exactly like MS then i rather play there which is a bigger community, you need to do something different to sell it to the community.
Raging Bull
Post it under announcement then haha. Although i think a lot of people cant find or dont know we have this game
Quaraezha
Hi, I've been playing a few games at epicmafia and I want to say that I've kinda improved.
If anyone makes a mafia, please invite me. Okay.
Lincolm
Ah Epicmafia. They said that place very crazy. I should try sometimes. :lol:
Sakura
Epicmafia is nothing compared to forum mafia, just saying.
Yeah i've played there, but the people in there Random Lynch, No-Lynch too much rather than discussing
Quaraezha
There's quite a lot of people with experience who knows the all the strategy. A lot of ragey people too who insults pretty much everyone.
Lincolm

Quaraezha wrote:

A lot of ragey people too who insults pretty much everyone.
OK. I won't go there.
Tsukasa
Yeah link can't handle insluts

Not offense bro ;)
Quaraezha
Most of these experienced players and ragey people are usually in Ranked matches.
The unranked matches are usually casual, full of conversational people but mostly newbies.
I hang out in unranked usually just to get used to the setup more.
NoHitter
gj Kanye. So much activity.
Raging Bull

NoHitter wrote:

gj Kanye. So much activity.
You should have joined!

And if the activity will remain like this then the night phases will go by so sloowwwww
NoHitter
Actually I'm generally horrible with real active games. In a big game, I tend to lurk more since I can't accurately give my reads.
Tsukasa

NoHitter wrote:

gj Kanye. So much activity.
Too much activity...

I leave for 2 days and they leave me 15 pages to read and a night start.

OMG
Kanye West
The activity is great.

We should definitely have more themed games like this, makes it more interesting.
Lincolm
Next themed game, DotA. :D
Tsukasa
I won't be around for that anymore :(
bmin11
Wow 46 pages. It's only been 8 days as well.

I'll definitely be in for DotA themed mafia
Nyquill
We're looking for a replacement for Dulcet in oddrole, seeing he hasn't responded to my prod yet.
Kanye West
I'm in if you still need someone.
bmin11
game already on going after 7 hours from the first post

I guess need to be more active to even join a game now
Sakura
I could have you signed up for replcament if needed, and if you want to.
bmin11
Sure. I'll start following the thread.
bmin11

JInxyjem wrote:

Fuck you Rantai and your Youmu Seraph Knight
Good times 8-)
Raging Bull
Can we have non newbie mafia next game? I wanna see people play other roles besides the basic VT/cop/doc/maf. Probably too much though.
bmin11

Raging Bull wrote:

Can we have non newbie mafia next game? I wanna see people play other roles besides the basic VT/cop/doc/maf. Probably too much though.
NoHitter should be holding next, which is small town Dota mafia. Not sure how small town will turn out.
Raging Bull
Gimmie vig pls nohitter.
Raging Bull
bmin, replace tsukasa in LoL mafia and give us the win
bmin11
no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
NoHitter
To anyone who asks me as well:

bmin11 wrote:

no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
bmin11
Oh wait I think I know what RB means lol

Sorry, but that would be lame
Kanye West
it's okay guys

I'll just spam him ingame until he posts.

if/when he logs in
Raging Bull

bmin11 wrote:

Oh wait I think I know what RB means lol

Sorry, but that would be lame

Well I tried.

NoHitter wrote:

To anyone who asks me as well:

bmin11 wrote:

no way I'm reviewing 127 pages no sir
Hahahaha
Rantai
... damn it, I want to see the jesterfest game make a comeback >_<
NoHitter
Just a note, I set up a Spectator/Dead chat for DOTA Smalltown, so if you're interested in joining in and discussing (with spoilers ofc) you can PM me.
Tanzklaue
if a nooby friendly game opens up i may join in, though I'm in the end phase of my finals so I probably won't have time for another 2 weeks or so.
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

if a nooby friendly game opens up i may join in, though I'm in the end phase of my finals so I probably won't have time for another 2 weeks or so.
I'll probably run another newbie friendly game after i'm done with this one.
bmin11
I kind of wish I could play another Wojjan mafia. I miss those role PMs.
Raging Bull
Bug her
LadySuburu
Did someone say Wojjan?

...

Cause I'm not Wojjan.
Kanye West
Wojjan still hasn't started that Touhou mafia from like a year ago. I still have my role PM sitting in my inbox. Wojjan pls.

P.S. the PM was one of the most well-written things I have ever seen, like damn
bmin11
I kept all role PMs from Wojjan.

Wojjan wrote:

The date today is 11/11/11. It doesn't mean anything to you aside from being the day you were plucked! Hooray!

You are A sour grape. You have only recently been cultivated - and promptly thrown away due to your pack's sour taste - and have landed in this kind of place, where apparently bad things are going on! Oh no! You have sworn to your farmer that you will do anything within the powers of a sour grape to stop everyone from dong bad things! I mean, that's even assuming the farmer is around here, which, since he threw you away, he probably isn't... But still! Doing bad things is bad! You shouldn't do them, mafia! Not unless you want to taste a very sour grape! Oh, whoever cuts you open is gonna get acid in their eyes, just you wait! Er, just they wait.

You are a bomb. You have no action overnight, but whichever role ends up killing you off will get poured on by incredibly tart juice, melting them right off their sockers. You are sided with the town.

You may use your quicktopic for any personal needs, but for the night to move on you must at least post in it once.

Wojjan wrote:

Love will stop the rain,
even without an umbrella




5. bmin11 - In the rain

You are In the rain, by Leessang. A forceful tidbit of Korean hiphop, your lyrics tell a tale of sadness, mostly. About two people seeking happy ends. You're a kind of song that people hear and immediately think that it could mean something to someone thye know. Recognisable in its uniqueness.

Unique as you may be, you are but a Vanilla Townie. I say but, but a townie is one of the strongest roles in the game, equipped with the most lethal weapon of all, a lynch vote. Overday, you cast your vote on those people you suspect of being part of the songfia. Overnight, you sort of wait to get killed, really. But that won't stop you from reaching your happy end.

Wojjan wrote:

bmin11 was LeeSsang's In the Rain. Korean hiphop in its full glory, the combination of forceful voice and impressive lyrics about a loved one could have been called cliché, but he didn't mind. He was one of many, and didn't really care to stand out that much. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Wojjan wrote:

"This year's summer sure is peaceful. It's good to be bored, probably."

You are Reimu Hakurei, Shrine Maiden of Paradise. You are a shrine maiden in the Hakurei namesake, the last of your bloodline. While lately you mostly set out on incidents, it is also your duty to uphold the Hakurei barrier, which protects Gensokyo from the outer world. As a true and pure maiden, you are of course beside yourself that the youkai could manage a means of organised crime as they are doing. You don't know who's behind it quite yet but rest assured you'll find out. And exterminate them. For real, this time. No tea involved.

You decided to put your latest spellcard Dream Sign "Fantasy Dimensional Rift" to some more good use since Aya had her spiel. With this card, you can blink right away from danger should you need to, but since it leaves an enormous residual of mana, it's your duty as a shrine maiden to make sure that power gets correctly done away with later on. You are a commuter. During the game, you may choose at night to commute, and hide yourself from any actions performed on you. Investigations will obtain no result, kills will not go through. Special roles like a busdriver, say, will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, and the specifics are left for you to puzzle out when such an occasion would occur. However, if you do commute, you will not be able to the next night, leaving you entirely vulnerable. Commuting is an action that can be roleblocked.


Honestly, Wojjan makes you feel good to play even as a Vanilla Townie.
Rantai

LadySuburu wrote:

Did someone say Wojjan?

...

Cause I'm not Wojjan.
Welcome back

Please don't read me like a book Dx
LadySuburu

Rantai wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Did someone say Wojjan?

...

Cause I'm not Wojjan.
Welcome back

Please don't read me like a book Dx
I've been lurking a long time. A looong time.

Also, Vote: Rantai
Sakura
LMAO xD
Rantai

LadySuburu wrote:

I've been lurking a long time. A looong time.

Also, Vote: Rantai
D:
Raging Bull
Jinxyjem or LS replace Hika/Kanye? D:
Sakura
Needing a replacement for Konei on Stacking the Deck if you wish to replace in, send me a PM.

BRBP replaces Konei, thanks for the help!
Sakura
Need a replacement for Hika on Stacking the Deck, if you wish to replace in, send me a PM

pieguy1372 replaces Hika, Thanks!
Sakura
Need a replacement for Irreversible on Stacking the Deck, if you wish to replace in, send me a PM.
Calignobot replaces Irreversible, Thanks!
Tsukasa

Sakura wrote:

Need a replacement for Irreversible on Stacking the Deck, if you wish to replace in, send me a PM.
Things here aren't "stable" yet. I'll probably replace in when problems are fixed and shiz. Put me in the maybe/possibly/desperately needed list
Lincolm

Sakura wrote:

Need a replacement for Irreversible on Stacking the Deck, if you wish to replace in, send me a PM.
Ankamius replaces Irreversible, Thanks!
FTFY :P
Sakura
Holy cow for real?!
Tsukasa
Well It's a long story.

But I can actually play now. But apparently not now. I'm still clearing "Issues"

I just need to stabilize my new schedule
Sakura

Tsukasa wrote:

Well It's a long story.

But I can actually play now. But apparently not now. I'm still clearing "Issues"

I just need to stabilize my new schedule
There are like a million slots that need replacement in the DotA game iirc
Chris_old
when is the next game friends ^_^
Sakura
When 1 of the current ones is over.
Sakura
Also any future replacements please check this thread out: t/142293 I figure i'd leave this thread just for regular discussion of mafia related stuff and put replacements in another thread.
Lilac
This Chris guy.

Also, avatar to get into the Mafia mood.
NoHitter
You guys should be more active when it's not 5AM here.
I like this level of activity... except I'm usually asleep by this time.
Lincolm
Because our timezone are fvkced.
Raging Bull
always wonderful when I post and discussion stops.
NoHitter
Well this game we have a handful of people in the same relative timezones (me, you, Jinxy, Rantai, MarioBros777)
*cross fingers*
NoHitter
Double post:
When pieguy writes my name as "NoHItter", I feel so much nostalgia ;_;
pieguyn
oh LOL, I didn't even see you changed your name
if you want I can keep writing it the old way~~
Nyquill
the game is supposed to end if a jester is lynched o_o
Tsukasa
In the year 1490, In the world of Ancardia. An unknown continent filled with nations sit on it's surface. It was peaceful at first, But then something happened to one of it's countries that changed everything.

The Ruler of Bronquia was killed by it's successor, Eventually crowning him their new king.
By the rule of the new king, Gulcasa, They attacked the kingdom of Fantasinia and succeeded in it's siege. The King of Fantasinia has fallen, and it's army shattered, Their only hope now is the survivor of the royal family of Artwaltz, Princess Yggdra, and the holy sword that she carries, The Gran Centurio.

Will the Bronquians succeed on being the sole empire that rules the land? Or Will the Fantasinians regain it's former glory and overthrow the evil Bronquians?

INTRODUCING: MAFIA UNION

Based on the Game Yggdra union




Game Setup/Desciption:
1) Would be a 15p Game. (Or less depending on the number of people who are joining
2) Due to the complaints of having short deadlines, Day phases would be 7 days. Night Phases Would still be 1 day.
3) This is an experimental setup.
4) It will NEVER EVER BE A BASTARD SETUP (No Jesters, No Cults, NO LIGHTNING ROD PGOs :P)

Game-Specific Rules:
1) Each player would be given 1 card Each Day.
2) Card distribution would be given at random. The stronger the card is, The rarer it is. (Card strength would be based on this list
3)Card usage will depend on which card. Some can only be used during the day, Some during the night, Some at any time, And some activated automatically (Passive Cards)

Sign-ups:
1) NO SIGN-UPS ARE BEING ACCEPTED AT THE MOMENT.
2) This message is merely an advertisement and, of course, posted here so the mod queue will not be disturbed. The final setup is not yet... erm... "Finalized"... Hence, any kind of sign-up, pre-in will not be accepted.
3) Sign-Ups/Pre-ins may be available in 2 weeks time or so.

Additional Information:
1) Most probably, It would be 12-Town 3-Scums.
2) But since there's a special rule, It may reach 11-Town 4-Scums, or it MAY reach up to 10-Town 5-Scums since it is a swingy setup.
3) Roles may still have their own power, which would be different from their card.
4) DO NOT RELY ON ROLE FLAVOR!!! ORIGINAL FANTASINIAN CHARACTERS MAY BE BRONQUIAN, AND VISE VERSA
bmin11
Sweet. LS's game is about to start when I'm actually going to be absent orz
Jinxy
fyi I wasn't kidding when I was thinking of TH Mafia V. It's not going to be PYP though since that's hell to balance. I already have a preliminary 12p setup going and basic balance tests passed., but I'm not going to slot myself into the queue yet without a little more testing.

If possible, I would like to ask for someone's help to be setup reviewer and/or co-mod. If you agree to help me be a reviewer, you will not be allowed to play the real thing since it's Closed Setup. A co-mod would basically be checking night action resolution, but that's not as necessary.
Amianki
I'm willing to do either; I'm not going to be playing any Touhou mafia games either way since I have basically no knowledge on it.
pieguyn
I'd be all for a Touhou mafia, cause I srsly have never been able to play a Touhou mafia that's finished...
make me Remi plz~
go ahead and sign up plz. it'll be a while before it starts so you'll have enough time I'm sure :3
Lilac
I'm going to post here for a newbie setting that I just thought up.

This setup is called 4^-1. It's named after 4 possible setups with all town roles being 1-shot.

Since we want to focus on day play as opposed to night play so hence these are the following possible setups.

2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Cop, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Doctor, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Watcher, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Town Roleblocker, 6 Townies.

This eliminates things such as follow the cop and just general reliance of power roles. However, it does bring on the sense of mafia not having much else to do and essentially have only the night kill to help them in terms of roles so I'm trying to figure out something else. Comments are appreciated.
Jinxy
This is almost mountainous though, since 1-shot is barely enough town-power, especially if the Doc/RB setup was selected since there's 0 investigative roles and the chance of a successful protect is incredibly small.
pieguyn
1-shot Cop seems fine for me, but 1-shot Doctor/Watcher/Roleblocker don't seem powerful enough imo 0.0
maybe I'm just biased against cops cause a skilled enough cop generally = town always wins or gets at least 1 mafia
Jinxy
I disagree there, the Watcher is even stronger than the Cop. It's easier to find a pro-town to Watch than a scum to Cop.
Lilac
Jinxy is essentially right, the Watcher and Cop are almost on par with each other.

If I changed the 1-shot doctor into a 2-shot tracker and the town RB into a 2-shot one as well, would that change anything? Information could be gathered through logical deductions of what happened in terms of the roles anyway. I don't want it to be mountainous but at the same time I don't want the game to just rely on a role.
Nyquill
Mountainous can be very fun though just saying.
SeiinaAraki
Dropping in to say hi

hi
Lilac
Saki, how do I Korean?
SeiinaAraki
Think of the silliest sounds when written in English
speak them out loud.

There. Korean.
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