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osu! World Cup #3 (Concluded - Korea wins)

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Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Wtf does my skill with hidden have to do with this?



Then can you guys take Usa song out since i cant do it? i haz not enough speed thankssss



Really guys stop bitching, it really doesn't take more than 10 tries to figure out the hidden notes and remember them (or figure them out by rythim as well), rotate players if you don't feel confortable with hidden, that should've part of the 'strategy' of the tournament.
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Really good match, congrats NL.

Ukraine was so close. Really wp.
Gorlum
705 posts
Joined May 2010
Gorlum
This was epic. Thanks to the Netherland team for this great evening.

Here is the log.
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/5200525
zozozofun
zozozofun
We're like, so stoned atm
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,496 posts
Joined February 2009
Topic Starter
Loctav
Listing some serious changes to the ruleset and staff:
-> Removed Valentiino
-> Removed those
-> Added lolcubes as mapset selector
-> added ztrot as Tournament Management

-> Recovery is allowed for now and will prevent you from being marked as "Failed" in results. This is the result of this being changed (refer to changelog)
-> Disconnects/Force Starts lead into a rematch. This can happen up to twice and will be enforced by Tournament Management. If it happens more than twice, the player is considered as "left on their own".

Updating OP later.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Also added a public poll for the topic of recovery.
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
What a fucking boss laport, good job there ;D!!

Gz NL!!
fabriciorby
2,211 posts
Joined December 2009
fabriciorby
laport carry
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

silmarilen wrote:

memorization is not a difficulty increase, its just a gimmicky way to make people miss.
This 100%
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
4,845 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
I voted no for the recovery option. The game itself doesn't allow scores to be submitted when you fail a map; no reason for this to change in a tournament.
LnDSuv
35 posts
Joined January 2012
LnDSuv
Recovery fits usual multiplayer perfectly. You never know when a phone call occurs or your little sister comes to get on your nerves.
But not serious events, like tournaments. Just prepare in advance: tell your parents you're busy, tell your little brother/sister to gtfo, switch off your phone and win owc.
Vish024
2,640 posts
Joined December 2010
Vish024
It's a bit late to introduce recovery now after the first round is over. Who knows how the matches could've gone with recovery. The tournament has been played so far without it and therefore it should remain that way. Maybe in the next OWC you could consider it.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
We should have rematches in case somebody misses too.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
i agree with LaVolpe024, adding something like recovery should be done before the first game, not once the matches have started.
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38
I agree too.
Fenek Alfa
185 posts
Joined April 2012
Fenek Alfa
I'd say yes, but don't introduce it during the round FFS! This tournament has a bad case of gimbologic already.
Naikaze
2,401 posts
Joined July 2011
Naikaze
I voted yes, but then again I don't think it should be implemented in the middle of the wc, should've been from the start
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
you guys are forgetting that recovery is actually part of the game, and it not showing in the mp stats is only a bug.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West

silmarilen wrote:

you guys are forgetting that recovery is actually part of the game, and it not showing in the mp stats is only a bug.
But then why fix the bug and allow recovery to count if it hasn't in past games? It's better to keep consistency throughout the tournament rather than a sudden rule implementation that potentially alters match outcomes.
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
thats what the poll is for
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Not this time buddies, remember some players failed and lost matches because of that.
Vish024
2,640 posts
Joined December 2010
Vish024
I'm genuinely astonished at the number of people who've voted yes.

buny wrote:

We should have rematches in case somebody misses too.
Oi! You can't make harmless jokes here, you should know this by now.
Naikaze
2,401 posts
Joined July 2011
Naikaze

Wishy wrote:

Not this time buddies, remember some players failed and lost matches because of that.
Exactly
Ciunek
52 posts
Joined February 2010
Ciunek

Wishy wrote:

Not this time buddies, remember some players failed and lost matches because of that.
This is exactly why I voted No as well. If you're going to put something that can change results THIS much, put it right away before first matches start, or don't put it at all, else I demand re-doing entire 1-1, so it's fair for all those who failed without chance to recover and therefore made their teams lose.
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
That being implemented would make us able to pick some maps we discarded because "too easy to fail". Even map picks would've been different.
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
Voted for no. And even if the poll was added before OWC I would vote so.

Between "easy maps + no recovery" and "harder maps + recovery" I would pick no recovery. I think that no rec makes the contest more interesting if not breathtaking in some cases. Just don't choose 1st play SS maps, winning a map by 2-5 100s doesn't really show who was actually better.

My second argument against recovery is that the usefulness of such thing depends on the map, mainly HP drain. In some maps you can fail once and never recover even if playing the rest well.
jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412
If this was pre-starting I'd say 100% yes. The only reason 95% of players will fail these maps is because of lag.

Ok maybe not 95% but still, a large portion.
peppy
19,301 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Every OWC match so far where someone has failed would have resulted in the same outcome if they didn't fail (go and check if you don't believe me). And of course, not every one of these fails would have been able to reach recovery again (it's quite hard with high HP drain). Recovery will only make matches closer. Now when players fail, we can look forward to seeing whether they recover and contribute the (low) score they did achieve or fail to do so.

Also for what is is worth, recovery was supposed to be implemented and working before OWC started - I discussed this with Loctav - but the fact it was bugging for Team VS was kept under the covers until I found out half-way through. I have no intention of removing recovery again. Please move discussion of this to another thread (feature request, toggle recovery off) so it doesn't clog up this one.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
4,845 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

peppy wrote:

Every OWC match so far where someone has failed would have resulted in the same outcome if they didn't fail (go and check if you don't believe me). And of course, not every one of these fails would have been able to reach recovery again (it's quite hard with high HP drain). Recovery will only make matches closer. Now when players fail, we can look forward to seeing whether they recover and contribute the (low) score they did achieve or fail to do so.

Also for what is is worth, recovery was supposed to be implemented and working before OWC started - I discussed this with Loctav - but the fact it was bugging for Team VS was kept under the covers until I found out half-way through. I have no intention of removing recovery again. Please move discussion of this to another thread (feature request, toggle recovery off) so it doesn't clog up this one.
Does this mean recovered scores will count to total team score from now on?
Wishy
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Joined September 2010
Wishy
Apparently.
Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
Joined February 2011
Makar
Korea vs Uruguay
Result: 4:0 (Korea win) - MP Link - Screenshot - Stream

Goodjob guys~
Last edited by Makar , edited 1 time in total.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
deadbeat
shock horror gasp. korea won :p
also why no mp link?
Makar
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2011
Makar
Whoops, added.
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
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Joined May 2009
Cyclohexane
About the whole recovery thing, I effectively knew that it didn't recover on team VS matches, but I actually thought that was intended, of course I would've informed peppy earlier if I knew it wasn't.

Anyway, congratulations to Korea, good game Uruguay.
Next match is China v. Australia, tomorrow 9AM UTC. I'll be there to comment the stream.
Wishy
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Joined September 2010
Wishy
Uruguay lost with HONOR almost getting a point out of Korea on the last map.

They are the true winners and champions.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
4,845 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Acknowledgement to maay and the rest of the Uruguayan team for being a great sport! Real fun games lol Enjoy your birthday Z e o n~
Snepif
1,127 posts
Joined July 2010
Snepif
Last map was so close :3 wish i hadn't missed :c

Oh and was fun too KRZY :D specially the tag LOL
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe

Wishy wrote:

Uruguay lost with HONOR almost getting a point out of Korea on the last map.

They are the true winners and champions.
this.

I really am still upset that Canada and Korea weren't in the same pool this year :(
I wanted to score a point against them again ;)
ztrot
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2008
ztrot
I shouldn't be dying enough to stream sat match, not sure you will get much talking out of me tho XD
kriers
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kriers
hi greentrot
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