If I understand you correctly, this future cause senseless misunderstandable notespam.
BRBP wrote:
A typical story of a pro 4k-only player.
1. Pick a song, any song
2. Place 1/1 or 1/2 double notes until the first chorus. Remember, do not use any long notes, they're boring
3. When the chorus starts fill it with either 1/4 or 1/8 stream single notes
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 until the song ends
5. Rage at forums for not getting it ranked
6. Make a thread asking to make existing songs harder
I reiterate, anyone who is bad and can't read or hit complicated 4k patterns will not understand this feature request. You do not understand correctly.Archangel Tirael wrote:
If I understand you correctly, this future cause senseless misunderstandable notespam.
I've never seen a post this badBRBP wrote:
A typical story of a pro 4k-only player.
1. Pick a song, any song
2. Place 1/1 or 1/2 double notes until the first chorus. Remember, do not use any long notes, they're boring
3. When the chorus starts fill it with either 1/4 or 1/8 stream single notes
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 until the song ends
5. Rage at forums for not getting it ranked
6. Make a thread asking to make existing songs harder
Bites wrote:
If you aren't a skilled enough 4k player, yes - you will think that it has no sense, and you won't understand why anyone would want this.Woshiwobi wrote:
Ok, I got your point but in the end, do you really want to play flooded maps with no sense?
But honestly, it's not as impossible as you might think - a top tier FFR or SM player does songs about that difficulty with ease. It's actually far more enjoyable, and far more rhythmic than just having single notes. But, of course, much harder than single notes.
..And then there's Staiain.
Woshiwobi wrote:Haha ok. I'm pretty sure, you will never be able to quad this song ... as a FFR or Stepmania player u wont have the accuary to play this song at neraly 99 % ... and yeah, I just want to show you what a good making stepfile is but as it seems you didnt get my point of view ( and it was also a Padfile, means ppl are going to use their feets to play this song, like the guy in the video )
For a example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0iTSWnPdY this songs is pretty hard to play ( also for keyboard ), but this map isen’t flooded with notes ^^
That song is ridiculously, RIDICULOUSLY easy. Perhaps not to quad, like seen in the video, but it's not a hard song by any circumstance.
The video I linked was just to show you what -is- possible in stepmania, not necessarily what I want to happen with the feature.Woshiwobi wrote:
Your way to improve the map make no sense ... like i mentioned before ... the rhytm will goes away .. I didnt say it isn't impossible and I would be able to play this art of difficulty, but cleary watch your postet video, are there any flooted steps? Your art of doing the songs are likes so "oh so single notes mhmm ok, im just going to add some more notes and I have got now many jumps ...", but are the jumps now necessary? on 32er streams u wont need jumps. Like in your postet video the jumps are cleary on half or full beats ...
I'm more than capable of 99%ing uber rave. Quad is almost impossible for anyone but a handful of MA gods, like Izzy, AlexDest, or as you can see - Calamist.Woshiwobi wrote:
Haha ok. I'm pretty sure, you will never be able to quad this song ... as a FFR or Stepmania player u wont have the accuary to play this song at neraly 99 % ...
Uber Rave is a very old file, and it's not what I'd define as a good stepfile.Woshiwobi wrote:
I just want to show you what a good making stepfile is
ITT people that haven't played 4k in anything other than osu!mania/djmax that think they're masters of 4k and know what they're doing.FissionMailed wrote:
ITT people are terrible at 4k, have no idea what layering is, and should stop posting in this thread.
Your ignorant statements are appalling, but yet not surprising to me. You don't have the first clue about the Stepmania and FFR communities. Especially what skill level the players are in those communities when it deals with 4key or 6key.Woshiwobi wrote:
Haha ok. I'm pretty sure, you will never be able to quad this song ... as a FFR or Stepmania player u wont have the accuary to play this song at neraly 99 % ... and yeah, I just want to show you what a good making stepfile is but as it seems you didnt get my point of view ( and it was also a Padfile, means ppl are going to use their feets to play this song, like the guy in the video )
Okay. 80 lvl in DMTR. 3 years of DJMAX... I bad in 4k. LOL! I'm talking about the fact that the charts may lose the logic in this case. For example, in the place where there was one note and, therefore, the author maps wanted at this moment was only one hitsound, will play two notes, thereby breaking the original idea of the author on the sound of this song, and this extra audio will break all logic music. Sorry for Google Translate.Bites wrote:
I reiterate, anyone who is bad and can't read or hit complicated 4k patterns will not understand this feature request. You do not understand correctly.
I know it's overkill and not what they are asking for. I've played stepmania before, I know what they want.winber1 wrote:
@MMzz: osu!mania is a really different type of game than our other modes. I still agree there should be sense in what we do in this new mode, but to an extent, we should be allowed to break "certain barriers of sense" that we could not in other modes. As I said, something like what staiain did is just overkill, but that isn't what this request is asking for.
Unless the map was made FOR 4k, people who play 7k should generally be higher on the rankings list imo. Anything amount of keys that isn't the original amount should have a decreasing multiplier.BRBP wrote:
^ This thread isn't about the difficult either, all they want is a way to get #1 rank against 7k players.
It's a reference. An analogy. Nobody is calling osu!mania the exact same that those other games.MMzz wrote:
Linking videos from a game to prove a point in a different game. Logic. osu! is not like stepmania/O2jam/etc where there is no real criteria in their maps/charts/whateveryouwanttocallthem.
Long story short. If you want your "dense" gameplay you're playing the wrong game.
Freedom Dive.JeMhUnTeR wrote:
^ that
i'm pretty sure it has something to do with balance of notes between the left and right half. Some songs translate to a spammed mess which have parts that you need to finish with one hand.
This made my day, you obviously haven't played any packs made by communities like ffr, or lack skills to comprehend the layering and actually play the charts themselves if you say that.MMzz wrote:
osu! is not like stepmania/O2jam/etc where there is no real criteria in their maps/charts/whateveryouwanttocallthem.