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Strawberry
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1,536 posts
Joined October 2010
Strawberry
yo

[Over The Flood]
00:23:717 (4) - hmm..i think it'll be played better if you make the rhythm be consistent with 00:28:666 (3) -
00:38:408 (5) - i feel it should be a clap here :3
00:55:109 - ~00:56:346 - remove the break time from .osu file
00:58:511 (6) - how about add a clap on the tail of the slider? sounds good however it's also fit the bgm imo.
01:08:563 (7) - ^ (on the head
01:35:625 (9) - put a whistle on the open of the repeat slider? that's make your whistle more consistent instead of suddenly disappeared
01:45:522 (7) - ^
01:48:150 (10) - ^
02:05:315 (4) - ^
02:09:336 (1) - (nazi)1 grid right
02:25:109 (5) - same as 01:35:625 (9)
02:36:398 (9) - i think you missed a whistle here :3
02:56:037 (6) - the whistle should be put on (7), because it's sound random and uncomfortable since the whistle is put on the white and blue tick. i think it'll be improved if you put them all on blue tick.
^
02:58:511 (7) - ^
03:00:985 (6) - ^
03:03:460 (6) - ^
03:05:934 (8) - ^
03:08:408 (4) - ^
03:12:119 (8) - ^
03:13:357 (8) - ^
03:15:831 (6) - ^
03:18:305 (8) - ^
03:20:779 (5) - ^
03:23:253 (4) - ^
03:25:728 (8) - ^
03:28:202 (6) - ^
03:30:676 (6) - ^
03:33:150 (4) - ^
03:47:686 - add the circle here and 03:47:686 - and stack them?

that's all i get from this epic map :3 ☆ gogo grumd.
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
Nah, I'm not starring your map because it's good, but because it's epic :D So 2 stars by me~~
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Strawberry
yo

[Over The Flood]
00:23:717 (4) - hmm..i think it'll be played better if you make the rhythm be consistent with 00:28:666 (3) -
done
00:38:408 (5) - i feel it should be a clap here :3
nope, i go strictly with the music only
00:55:109 - ~00:56:346 - remove the break time from .osu file
i've added it manually. why should i remove it?
00:58:511 (6) - how about add a clap on the tail of the slider? sounds good however it's also fit the bgm imo.
no, it doesnt fit bgm
01:08:563 (7) - ^ (on the head
^
01:35:625 (9) - put a whistle on the open of the repeat slider? that's make your whistle more consistent instead of suddenly disappeared
added some whistles there
01:45:522 (7) - ^
yea
01:48:150 (10) - ^
hm,nope
02:05:315 (4) - ^
ok
02:09:336 (1) - (nazi)1 grid right
i don't use grid snap, but whatever, moved it a bit
02:25:109 (5) - same as 01:35:625 (9)
done
02:36:398 (9) - i think you missed a whistle here :3
right
02:56:037 (6) - the whistle should be put on (7), because it's sound random and uncomfortable since the whistle is put on the white and blue tick. i think it'll be improved if you put them all on blue tick.
i tried both ways and have to say that i like my sounding more :c

03:47:686 - add the circle here and 03:47:686 - and stack them?
nope, i'm emphasizing bass

that's all i get from this epic map :3 ☆ gogo grumd.

Thanks, Strawberry!

And thanks dragonxcz for stars :3
Nemis
854 posts
Joined May 2012
Nemis
00:25:109 (6) - this is unrankable i think
no kd :D
bmin11
5,438 posts
Joined October 2008
bmin11
hitsounds <3
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd

Nemis wrote:

00:25:109 (6) - this is unrankable i think
no kd :D
much time enough between them to recognize both sliders
screenshots of this object before it needs to be hit:
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Reisen Udongein
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
1,073 posts
Joined January 2010
Reisen Udongein
i really love this , both style and hitsounds *-* take my star, you deserve it :D
DarknessAngel
2,237 posts
Joined May 2010
DarknessAngel
come from your request in-game ~ :)






Red words = Unrankable stuff
Blue words = It is the best way that you fix it
Black words = If I were you,I would do that
Green words = some of my comment,or something I want you to notice




General

  1. hmm ... since you wrote "14 favourites while WIP,+7 favourites while pending" to Creator's Words
    I think you should move your beatmap to "Pending Beatmaps" ?

Over The Flood

  1. 00:25:109 (6) - you can add new combo for this kind of overlap,it is good to our eyes. xD
    also NC can make an effect of emphasis for the rhythm (objects)
  2. 00:35:006 (6,7) - ^
  3. 01:46:140 (2) - ctrl + J and place it to (200,332) ?
    it is a bit more smooth to me xD
  4. 03:05:934 (1,2,3,4) - how about this ?
    I think it is more exciting and funner. (plz ignore the wrong new combo - -)
  5. 03:16:063 (1,2) - I feel much better if you "ctrl + R" for these notes.
  6. 03:47:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - since 03:47:068 (1,2,3,4) are 3/4 beats,add new combo on 03:47:764 (1) to warn the spacing between 03:47:764 (1,2),emphasize rhythm changing and the jump.
  7. 04:09:336 (1) - just an idea,change it to "a speed slider" to match the voice ? :p



that's all from me.
good song,nice map and awesome hitsounds <3
have a star ~
good luck !
:)
grumd
1,790 posts
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Topic Starter
grumd
DarknessAngel
come from your request in-game ~ :)

Red words = Unrankable stuff
Blue words = It is the best way that you fix it
Black words = If I were you,I would do that
Green words = some of my comment,or something I want you to notice

General

  1. hmm ... since you wrote "14 favourites while WIP,+7 favourites while pending" to Creator's Words
    I think you should move your beatmap to "Pending Beatmaps" ?
in that Creator's Words I meant that there is +7 favourites while the standard map is done. and i can't move it to pending unless i have 2 diffs. i will do that as soon as i get taiko from MMzz


Over The Flood

  1. 00:25:109 (6) - you can add new combo for this kind of overlap,it is good to our eyes. xD
    also NC can make an effect of emphasis for the rhythm (objects)
    ok
  2. 00:35:006 (6,7) - ^
  3. 01:46:140 (2) - ctrl + J and place it to (200,332) ?
    the stuff i have done is like a wave, on the seas. well, i prefer my concept anyway
    it is a bit more smooth to me xD
  4. 03:05:934 (1,2,3,4) - how about this ?
    I think it is more exciting and funner. (plz ignore the wrong new combo - -)
    tried it, your concept is pretty good, but i couldn't avoid overlaps with placing a good pattern like that, sorry. keeping it like that
    retried and yay! done! thanks a lot, now its better
  5. 03:16:063 (1,2) - I feel much better if you "ctrl + R" for these notes.
    doubles are always orientated differently
  6. 03:47:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - since 03:47:068 (1,2,3,4) are 3/4 beats,add new combo on 03:47:764 (1) to warn the spacing between 03:47:764 (1,2),emphasize rhythm changing and the jump.
    i place ncs at the downbeats anyway.. and i can't get why you need NC exactly on that circle. it's still 3/4 there..
  7. 04:09:336 (1) - just an idea,change it to "a speed slider" to match the voice ? :p
    well, its already kind of a "speed" slider, since it is straight. i hope that's enough. i never do any speedups here, so dont want to break consistency

that's all from me.
good song,nice map and awesome hitsounds <3
have a star ~
good luck !
:)

Thanks for your modding!

Edit: Asking for some taiko tests
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nrii_old
nrii_old
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2cool2fc

so sick map so so sick
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Fine, this mapset can't go for approval.
Making a Hard for now so moving to WIP again.
nrii_old
nrii_old

grumd wrote:

Fine, this mapset can't go for approval.
Making a Hard for now so moving to WIP again.
this new rule is so arbitrarily stupid
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
[Hard]

General
set the beat snap divisor to 1/4
that's all ;)

02:06:089 - ok i didn't saw it when i played it the first time. unstack pls (http://puu.sh/13r6C - (2) move to 420|32, (3) 372|92,(4) 328|76 then rotate -8% selection centre). other ways u may wont see it and if i would guess it is a 1/4
02:08:099 (1) to 02:08:563 (4) - the fact that there are 3 circles is bad because when playing u want press only 3 times but u have to press 4 times ->the rythm for your fingers isn't so good
02:37:790 (3) to 02:39:027 (6) - u dont know the melody/rythm before u played it makes it hard to play. it is just confusing. may change to http://puu.sh/13rm8 for me it was better to play then (take note that there are 2 reverses).
02:40:264 (1) to 02:41:501 (3) - the second time u think like: "now i know the rythm" but then it isn't like you expected 3/4. again here 2 pictures: http://puu.sh/13rux, http://puu.sh/13ruT (the (6) u see in picture2 is stacked on (5) in picture1)
02:48:769 - add a circle then its ok there
02:50:161 to 02:51:398 - same like before
02:51:552 - add hitcircle
02:56:037 (5) - everytime you use slider for this part it gets hard to play exactly and not to do "random-keypressing". may change that (an example to 2 times 3/4sliders and then another slider/circle)
03:04:619 and 03:04:929 - add circle again u hear that clap and you want play either that double 1/4 or just a simple stream
03:13:202 to 03:13:975 - again you want press 1 time less than u have to ((3) is the "wrong" one)
03:15:831 to 03:16:449 - ^
03:20:779 to 03:20:779 - ^
03:23:253 to 03:23:872 - ^, i guess its because there 3claps and then a pause and you want play the same: double 1/4 and then a slider
03:35:934 to 04:08:099 - delete the timing sections^^
ofc all of that is my opinion and if you dont see things not like me you don't have to cahnge that ;)
At all a very nice diff but the kiai-time is really a bit harder
Kokatsu
504 posts
Joined August 2011
Kokatsu
Tried to mod the taiko, but it's so awesome, I can't find anything q__q

just small notice:
04:32:841 - useless timingsection
and I find it a bit sad that one plays with just the blue lower part of the bg because of the storyboard. :/
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
"phaZ"
[Hard]

General
set the beat snap divisor to 1/4
that's all ;)
no need, that only affects mapping and the editor

02:06:089 - ok i didn't saw it when i played it the first time. unstack pls (http://puu.sh/13r6C - (2) move to 420|32, (3) 372|92,(4) 328|76 then rotate -8% selection centre). other ways u may wont see it and if i would guess it is a 1/4
done
02:08:099 (1) to 02:08:563 (4) - the fact that there are 3 circles is bad because when playing u want press only 3 times but u have to press 4 times ->the rythm for your fingers isn't so good
you talk about really strange stuff, nothing bad here lol
02:37:790 (3) to 02:39:027 (6) - u dont know the melody/rythm before u played it makes it hard to play. it is just confusing. may change to http://puu.sh/13rm8 for me it was better to play then (take note that there are 2 reverses).
made it more readable in another way
02:40:264 (1) to 02:41:501 (3) - the second time u think like: "now i know the rythm" but then it isn't like you expected 3/4. again here 2 pictures: http://puu.sh/13rux, http://puu.sh/13ruT (the (6) u see in picture2 is stacked on (5) in picture1)
no streams here please
02:48:769 - add a circle then its ok there
only folowing bass
02:50:161 to 02:51:398 - same like before
same
02:51:552 - add hitcircle
yea fine, and in the same part before too
02:56:037 (5) - everytime you use slider for this part it gets hard to play exactly and not to do "random-keypressing". may change that (an example to 2 times 3/4sliders and then another slider/circle)
learn how to play lol
03:04:619 and 03:04:929 - add circle again u hear that clap and you want play either that double 1/4 or just a simple stream
that stuff is on the harder diff. no streams here cause it's Hard pls
03:13:202 to 03:13:975 - again you want press 1 time less than u have to ((3) is the "wrong" one)
03:15:831 to 03:16:449 - ^
03:20:779 to 03:20:779 - ^
03:23:253 to 03:23:872 - ^, i guess its because there 3claps and then a pause and you want play the same: double 1/4 and then a slider
dunno what are you talking about, really
03:35:934 to 04:08:099 - delete the timing sections^^
oh right
ofc all of that is my opinion and if you dont see things not like me you don't have to cahnge that ;)
At all a very nice diff but the kiai-time is really a bit harder

Thanks!

@Kokatsu: fixed, thanks ^^
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those
This map didn't have a very obvious repeating pattern like the nature of dying did, so there aren't any consistency issues I can point out. I would rank the Over the Flood diff right now if I could. However, just one thing that bothers me.

[Hard]
  1. From the start of the Kiai until 03:14:284 (5) - , you're effectively just moving around the map in the clockwise motion a whole nine times. Rhythm is great, but I think you can move stuff around to use up the playing area more wisely.
I really can't see an Easy/Normal coming from this; I really cannot see why it cannot be approved but it's something the MAT/BAT will talk about. Oh, and Taiko's great. +Fav.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Thanks for the check those. I really do not feel like remapping that whole part in Hard since it still plays fine and since I hate that diff.
And Normal is going to come out pretty nice, check it's first minute of mapping if you want.
Kokatsu
504 posts
Joined August 2011
Kokatsu
That Kudos was unnessecary, but nevermind..

Oh and Taiko Drain should be lowered by 1. I have big problems even surviving it when I just miss every now and then. HP 6 on a 4min map is brutal :x
69653863
1,818 posts
Joined January 2012
69653863
Hey grumd I have a little, very little improvement for the storyboard~

Your current red glow sprite tooks SB Load 2.00x (which is still ok and does not exceed limit) but combined with kiai effects (lightings on circles sliders etc) it lagged the gameplay for me (I don't know about others) so, I tried some ways to reduce the sb load includes:
resizing the image (approx. 4 times smaller) and add some little scripting touch on it (with some improvements from me ;)).

Resized sprite: http://puu.sh/13Ow3 (I know that it's pretty damn small but don't worry I've resized it on the code)
Here's the code
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"glow.png",320,353
 L,175109,32
  F,0,0,464,0.6,0.3
  F,0,464,619,0.3,0.6
;I separate the loops here to make the second loop more "dramatic"
 L,194903,31
  F,0,0,464,0.8,0.4
  F,0,464,619,0.4,0.8
;Normalizing the small-sized sprite
 S,0,175000,,5.325
 F,0,175032,175109,0,0.6
;Effects ;) the glow's getting bigger at first kiai and near the end of kiai
 M,0,175032,175109,320,353,320,300
 V,0,175032,175109,1,1,1,1.45
 M,0,175109,175728,320,300,320,353
 V,0,175109,175728,1,1.45,1,1
 F,0,214117,214387,0.8,1
 M,0,214117,214697,320,353,320,300
 V,0,214117,214697,1,1,1,1.45
 M,0,214697,217171,320,300,320,353
 F,0,214697,217171,1,0
 V,0,214697,217171,1,1.45,1,1

If there's anything wrong with the code or you need moar explanations, don't hesitate to contact me ;)
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
@inverness:
Very big thanks to you! Added your code, but kept my big picture. The point is that SB Load doesn't depend on picture size, it depends on how much of the screen that picture claims. So I have just cut half of my big picture (cut the transparent part) and got 1.56x SB Load, almost like you got. Also adjusted some values at _M events to fit my resized image. And thanks again for this code, that few new effects are really nice :3
Cygnus
1,517 posts
Joined December 2011
Cygnus
The diff spread between Normal and Hard is kind of doomed. I suggest making a New Hard and rename your Present Hard to Insane.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
I don't feel like making one more difficulty here, I have already done total 14 minutes of mapping.
Diff spread is also fine, it is a bit hard to make easier diffs enjoyable and playable on a breakcore song like this.
I will play with difficulty settings though, to make the spread jumps more slight.
Saten
Global Moderator
3,869 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
hai


[Over the Flood]
00:18:305 (2,3) - why custom stacking? I see no reason for one here~
00:23:253 (2,3) - ^.. wait why are you even using Stack Leniency 2? D: (4 is better)
00:56:965 (3,4) - this is kinda unexpected with SL2

[Hard]
02:58:511 (4,5,1,2) - would be nice if you could avoid doubles like this. Well it's just my opinion

[Normal]
AR6 really? I would use 5
01:16:140 (1) - Finish on head
01:35:315 (2) - finish on tail
01:55:109 (2) - ^
02:15:522 (1) - finish on head
02:35:315 (3) - Finish
02:54:800 (4) - finish on tail
03:34:387 (5) - ^

[Easy]
01:55:728 (1) - finish on head
02:15:522 (1) - ^
02:30:367 (2,1) - try avoid overlaps like this one? The others were fine imo. Well it doesn't really matters that much though
02:35:315 (3) - finish
02:55:109 (1) - finish on head
03:34:078 (3) - finish on tail


The diff spread is pretty neat in playability. No need to play with the settings imo.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Saten
hai yo


[Over the Flood]
00:18:305 (2,3) - why custom stacking? I see no reason for one here~
00:23:253 (2,3) - ^.. wait why are you even using Stack Leniency 2? D: (4 is better)
00:56:965 (3,4) - this is kinda unexpected with SL2
stack leniency was used to prevent some patterns from stacking. stacked last one manually though

[Hard]
02:58:511 (4,5,1,2) - would be nice if you could avoid doubles like this. Well it's just my opinion
and well i agree, removed doubles, replaced them by sliders

[Normal]
AR6 really? I would use 5
okay
01:16:140 (1) - Finish on head
01:35:315 (2) - finish on tail
01:55:109 (2) - ^
02:15:522 (1) - finish on head
02:35:315 (3) - Finish
02:54:800 (4) - finish on tail
03:34:387 (5) - ^
yea added them all and also added on Hard the same

[Easy]
01:55:728 (1) - finish on head
02:15:522 (1) - ^
02:30:367 (2,1) - try avoid overlaps like this one? The others were fine imo. Well it doesn't really matters that much though
02:35:315 (3) - finish
02:55:109 (1) - finish on head
03:34:078 (3) - finish on tail
applied everything

The diff spread is pretty neat in playability. No need to play with the settings imo.
it's just because I have already played with them :D

Thanks for modding, Saten-san!
And this is 69th post so you know what I'm going to do with you.
Cygnus
1,517 posts
Joined December 2011
Cygnus
What about OD -1 for Hard?
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
OD5 is really low, I don't want to decrease it.

oh, my 777th post
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
grumd's request
(a bit late, sorry)

[Taiko]
Tbh this map is pretty perfect the way it is now D:
After a deep search I have some suggestions
Feel free to ignore it all, since this diff is lovely <3

01:06:398 - At first I found this pattern a bit confusing. I could hit it normally on the second try. I guess adding a note (d) here will turn it more intuitive and the background sound here is similar to 01:06:475 (85) so it will sound fine anyways
01:15:522 (170) - k here. You kept following this sound along the map with a k so I see no reasnog to let it a d here. k here will probably screw the entire pattern so I suggest changing it to ddkkddkdk or ddkdddkdk
01:17:068 (183,184,185,186,187) - I really don't feel this pattern with the song. Try ddkkd or kdkkd? (IMO kdkkd sounds better).
01:18:228 - You could add a k here. It works very well, but if you don't want to make this stream long, just ignore it :p just pointing out
01:23:872 (247) - There is almost the same sound as 01:24:027 (248) - so use a k?
01:26:192 - same as 01:06:398
01:32:223 - There is a little stress. You used k on 01:22:016 (230,231,232,233,234) - , where the sound is the same. You could let this pattern ddddk or use ddkdk so it is not repetitive.
01:32:686 (329) - same as 01:23:872 (247). Well, you did that some other times so you can let it as a d to make some variation or dunno, but it still sounds better with k IMO :p I will not point out this again.
01:33:228 - d works here but again, if you don't want the stream to be long, just ignore it
01:45:985 - uh. Anothe thing I will not point out anymore, it is your choice :p
01:46:991 - k here? it sound like an "echo" from 01:46:913 (126)
-From now on, patterns are almost the same, so I will suggest just some minor things-
03:01:449 (229) - for me this should be a d. This is similar the previous note and low pitched comparing with the next.
03:05:625 (9) - k here?
03:11:346 (63) - same as 03:01:449 (229) or skip for variation
03:21:243 (158) - ^
03:43:357 (174) - sound like 03:43:202 (173) - , so use d?
03:43:511 (175,176,177,178) - hmm you could use kd kd because the stress on (175) and (177)
03:53:254 (256) - and 03:53:408 (257,258,259,260) - ^^same
Same from now on~

wow it is hard to mod something almost perfect D:
Good luck <3
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,845 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
Sorry, a bit late here.

[Taiko]

01:18:228 (x) - A don would fit good here because in this gap you can still hear the beat which you followed before and after this timeline, in this pattern constelation.
01:26:269 (270) - Consider to delete this note, please. There is no beat. Also, it would make hitting the 01:25:934 (266,267,268,269) - pattern easier. You could also move 01:26:114 (269) - this note to 01:26:192 as don. Fit's probably better. It would look like this: kkkd d k
01:35:934 - Oh, you did some similiar gap here. Sounds good.

Well, that's all.
Since the map is mostly mapped in the same way I didn't duplicated my mod over and over again.

Good luck.
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
SPOILER
osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: o'er the flood cut.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 214651
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 55035,56266,76094,85991,175063
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 16

[Metadata]
Title:o'er the flood
Artist:goreshit
Creator:grumd
Version:Wmf's Taiko
Source:
Tags:over breakcore mmzz semantic compositions on death and its meaning

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"293522-1024x768.jpg"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
15522,309.278350515464,4,1,0,70,1,0
175109,-100,4,1,0,70,0,1
214697,-100,4,1,0,70,0,0


[Colours]
Combo1 : 43,99,202
Combo2 : 128,152,198

[HitObjects]
480,80,16759,1,2
480,80,17377,1,0
480,80,17996,1,0
480,80,18614,1,0
480,80,19233,1,2
480,80,20470,1,2
480,80,21089,1,0
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[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
wmf mapped breakcore.
Is this real life?
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Oh lol
Thanks wmf, uploaded your diff now.

I honestly think that muzu's SV looks better at 1.2 (despite that guideline about 1.4 and 1.6)
spboxer3
Global Moderator
3,616 posts
Joined November 2009
spboxer3
[general]
remove "display epilepsy warning" in Taiko diff

[wtf Wmf's Taiko Muzukashii]
  1. 00:55:728 (75) - remove this note and add note at 00:56:037 - and 00:56:192 - ? the fitter pattern it's dkd ((在00:55:728 - 的位置靜音比較適合 而00:56:346 - 是個轉折點 所以用3 plat的排法來作出過門的效果會比較好
以下是就pattern而言 有地方是沒有平均擺放排列 所以提出來 就是某段d/k特別多就會有失衡的感覺
  1. 01:40:573 (273,274,275) - dkd? sound better then original one
  2. 02:01:913 (380) - k
  3. 02:28:820 (511,513) - k
...依照大節奏下擺放的 freestyle...
good luck~
Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
Joined February 2011
Makar
Requested in game

[Wmf's Taiko Muzukashii]
I kinda like 1.2 SV here but I guess it doesn't matter
00:16:759 (1) - this really should be a big don, or at least make it a don because of the backgound :v You do it later on in the song so, why not here?
00:21:707 (8) - ^
00:26:656 (15) - ^
00:31:604 (22) - ^
00:36:552 (27,28) - If you make the previous suggestions big dons instead of regular don, make these big don too. Same goes with the stuff after it so I'll stop pointing these out.
02:20:161 (464) - d? to be consistent with 02:23:253 (481,482,483,484,485,486,487) since its located in the same part of the phrase.
02:58:820 (637) - d? the string of kats kinda hide the downbeat here.

Sorry for the short and lazy mod, these are all just small suggestions anyways.

Also, great taiko, MMzz~
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
SPOILER
osu file format v9

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Sorry that I don't hv much time to response the mods in detail, but I applied k to the beginning because of the pitch of the music.

Also don't forget to tag me =P
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Thought that I have already tagged you.
Anyway, updated!
Yuzeyun
7,646 posts
Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
[wmf]
Why didn't you end it at the same point as MM's ?
Spice the map more ? I was slightly bored when playing this muzukashii ><

02:52:635 (612,613,614,615) - the mapping is pretty calm while the song is dynamic, feels awkwardly mapped


[MM]
01:15:831 (173,174,175,176,177) - since you're sticking to the drums, why don't you extend it to the full beat instead of splitting ?
02:44:903 (83,84) - stream inside ?
Some parts look copy-pasted to me, try varying the patterns a little without ruining the map itself ?

that's all I could find honestly, I played the maps before and got 99.75 S and 96.something 25 miss so yeah

also the bg is not watery enough it needs more water levels like the title and mapper name floating /runs


might mod the standard diffs this week-end (actually sunday)
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Ending Muzu at earlier point is intended and was requested by me. All easier diffs, standard too, are shorter because playing 4 minutes can be too hard/exhausting etc. Only the hardest diffs are mapped over full lenght of the song.
Thanks for mod!

[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
HI AGAIN~

[Wmf's Muzukashii]
-wow so fun~ also I'm surprised that you mapped breakcore o.o
-OD-1?

00:41:501 (40) - This should be d imo. There is no stress or something like that to have a k and is the same as 00:41:346 (39) - . Even if you're following piano here, d sounds better~
01:23:563 (189) - k to follow this little stress
01:33:305 (238,239) - k, same reason as above
02:36:089 (540) - k
02:36:862 (543,544) - k to follow the stress
02:39:645 (556) - k. high pitch on piano and drums
03:04:542 (671,672,673,674) - k k k d
03:24:336 (787,788,789,790) - ^
03:25:573 (794) - k

It was hard to mod because of the whistles instead of claps D:
well, good luck
rank this nao, grumd
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz

[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:

grumd's request
(a bit late, sorry)

[Taiko]
Tbh this map is pretty perfect the way it is now D:
After a deep search I have some suggestions
Feel free to ignore it all, since this diff is lovely <3

01:06:398 - At first I found this pattern a bit confusing. I could hit it normally on the second try. I guess adding a note (d) here will turn it more intuitive and the background sound here is similar to 01:06:475 (85) so it will sound fine anyways. I want to keep the gap. It's there in the song and really bring out the difficulty I wanted in the 1/6 pattern. To me making is one jointed pattern would just be kinda boring.
01:15:522 (170) - k here. You kept following this sound along the map with a k so I see no reasnog to let it a d here. k here will probably screw the entire pattern so I suggest changing it to ddkkddkdk or ddkdddkdk I'm not sure, the stream I have already flows and contrast well with the previous and upcomming note. And making it into something easy like those patterns wouldn't be very fun for this difficulty of a map.
01:17:068 (183,184,185,186,187) - I really don't feel this pattern with the song. Try ddkkd or kdkkd? (IMO kdkkd sounds better). Yeah, I put ddkkd.
01:18:228 - You could add a k here. It works very well, but if you don't want to make this stream long, just ignore it :p just pointing out. I extended out the stream but I didn't like the way to k played so I made it a d instead and changed some previous notes to make it interesting.
01:23:872 (247) - There is almost the same sound as 01:24:027 (248) - so use a k? No. I really wanted to bring out the structure change in this section with the k d d k d d k and I don't thank anything else will bring that out more.
01:26:192 - same as 01:06:398 X
01:32:223 - There is a little stress. You used k on 01:22:016 (230,231,232,233,234) - , where the sound is the same. You could let this pattern ddddk or use ddkdk so it is not repetitive. ddddk or ddkdk are basicly the same as the previous pattern.(ddk) So I don't see how this would make it less repeattive.
01:32:686 (329) - same as 01:23:872 (247). Well, you did that some other times so you can let it as a d to make some variation or dunno, but it still sounds better with k IMO :p I will not point out this again. Read my reply to the first time you said this.
01:33:228 - d works here but again, if you don't want the stream to be long, just ignore it
01:45:985 - uh. Anothe thing I will not point out anymore, it is your choice :p
01:46:991 - k here? it sound like an "echo" from 01:46:913 (126) ok.
-From now on, patterns are almost the same, so I will suggest just some minor things-
03:01:449 (229) - for me this should be a d. This is similar the previous note and low pitched comparing with the next. ok.
03:05:625 (9) - k here? I don't hear a snare here, and it's going to conflict with the next note that is k because there is a snare there.
03:11:346 (63) - same as 03:01:449 (229) or skip for variation
03:21:243 (158) - ^
03:43:357 (174) - sound like 03:43:202 (173) - , so use d? no, I used to it to provide song contrast leading into the dd dd.
03:43:511 (175,176,177,178) - hmm you could use kd kd because the stress on (175) and (177)
03:53:254 (256) - and 03:53:408 (257,258,259,260) - ^^same
Same from now on~

wow it is hard to mod something almost perfect D:
Good luck <3
Other mods are skipped as they were mostly what LP said.
I tried mixing things around and I added some breaks points because it needed them
code: http://puu.sh/18kBF
I don't even like it anymore but whatever.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Fine, uploaded.
Also removed epilepsy warnings from all diffs because it's not really epileptic.
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris

_Gezo_ wrote:

[wmf]
Why didn't you end it at the same point as MM's ?
Spice the map more ? I was slightly bored when playing this muzukashii ><

02:52:635 (612,613,614,615) - the mapping is pretty calm while the song is dynamic, feels awkwardly mapped
(I guess the music is relatively calm there...)

[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:

HI AGAIN~

[Wmf's Muzukashii]
-wow so fun~ also I'm surprised that you mapped breakcore o.o
-OD-1?

00:41:501 (40) - This should be d imo. There is no stress or something like that to have a k and is the same as 00:41:346 (39) - . Even if you're following piano here, d sounds better~
01:23:563 (189) - k to follow this little stress
01:33:305 (238,239) - k, same reason as above
02:36:089 (540) - k
02:36:862 (543,544) - k to follow the stress
02:39:645 (556) - k. high pitch on piano and drums
03:04:542 (671,672,673,674) - k k k d
03:24:336 (787,788,789,790) - ^
03:25:573 (794) - k

It was hard to mod because of the whistles instead of claps D:
well, good luck
rank this nao, grumd
fixed all

Changes to SV 1.2 as well. (thought about it before, but it's more than welcome to do so as you mentioned that one.)

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grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Updated.
lepidopodus
3,548 posts
Joined November 2009
lepidopodus
A week! Quite a long wait, huh? But seems you got already several mods and the maps are quite ok... Whatever.

[General]
- No need to turn on epilepsy warning in Taiko maps since there isn't any storyboard activated. (Anyway, does this option work in Taiko?)

[Wmf's Taiko Muzukashii]
00:16:759 (1) / 00:21:707 (8) / 00:26:656 (15) / 00:31:604 (22) - I prefer consistency when putting big notes. These notes shares the same sound and those are the first beat of every four measures. Apply big notes to all or none?
00:46:449 (55,56,57,58,59,60,61) - Well I prefer patten like 00:36:552 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) than this. Might be too simple for here since mood isn't so calmed down yet.
00:56:192 (75) - Sounds not so bad but no relevant sounds there.
00:58:202 (83,84) / 01:00:676 (92,93) / 01:08:099 (124,125) / 01:10:573 (133,134) - 'k k d' might be better, since I can hear more drum sounds here. Well, of course you cannot fill every drum sounds with notes since this is muz., but using a bit more notes is considerable.
02:47:686 (596) ~ 02:52:635 (612) - Some kind of transitional zone for the next kiai, I guess? Well but patterns are too simple, I think. At least you can put a few more notes to make beats more various?
02:53:872 (614,615) - A unique beat like 'o--o--o-o' can give here some 'points'.

[MM's Taiko Oni]
- Majority of patterns are based on strong drum sounds in the music, not so many complaints to make, I guess.
- Some C&P'ed patterns(01:16:140 (177) ~ 01:55:676 (20) and 01:55:728 (21) ~ 02:35:264 (20) / Kiai / etc.) but I don't care much since the patterns are generally hard and quite complicated so it is hard to notice, I guess. But I still think it would be better to have slight but distinguishable change between them when the mood of both part is a bit different. Adding/removing some notes might work.
- Density of notes might be too consistent, except very first part. At least it would be better to use some remarkable patterns (no, I don't mean hard patterns, rather say... characteristic patterns? Anyway.) but I don't see much, to be honest.
01:28:666 (288,289) / 02:08:254 (132,133) - kdk?
01:39:955 (55,56,57,58,59) / 02:19:543 (55,56,57,58,59) - 'd d kkdk'?
01:42:893 (79,80,81,82) / 02:22:481 (79,80,81,82) - 'ddddk'? (Hmm, maybe only for the later one for slightly more pattern variations?)
02:43:975 (95,96) - I think you can make use some atypical sound in here... I guess you can find some sounds like this from here till kiai so those can be clues for making some more differences between 02:35:316 (21) ~ 02:44:903 (103) and 02:45:212 (104) ~ 02:55:058 (191).
03:44:594 (179) ~ - Similar with above. I see three more repeat of 03:34:697 (99) ~ 03:44:284 (178) in this part so that is why. Or, add some 'fade-in' effect in patterns, I mean, decrease note density slightly by each repeats. Whatever.

I started to make this modpost since yesterday and wmf's one got some updates. Some features might got different already.
Taiko maps are ok. End up filling this with minor pattern suggestions, hmm, I don't like this mod.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd

lepidopodus wrote:

- No need to turn on epilepsy warning in Taiko maps since there isn't any storyboard activated. (Anyway, does this option work in Taiko?)
I thought I already have turned it off :\
Thank you for the mod!
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
SPOILER
osu file format v9

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Didn't get the last one precisely but the rest are fixed.
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa


gogo grumd get this ranked soon

I know I already posted a score once but man you're taking too long
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd

thelewa wrote:

but man you're taking too long
Well, ask MMzz to check mods faster. I think we can try to bubble this after he applies lepi's modding.
And yea, uploaded wmf's changes.
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
changed everything from lepi:

http://puu.sh/19vqc
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Yay, this time MMzz was faster, thanks ^^
Updated.
Also I was bored and remapped 01:14:130 - 01:16:140 in [Over] :D
Frostmourne
osu! Alumni
3,735 posts
Joined November 2009
Frostmourne

thelewa wrote:

SPOILER

..... just omg..
Ohrami
685 posts
Joined March 2010
Ohrami
Hi. This beatmap used to be one of my favorites and now it's not as good. The beginning (0:36) with the triples isn't as good as what it used to be with all the sliders... and the part at 1:15:346 was better with one long slider. Also, the part at 2:55 with the kiai seems to have been changed. aevv agreed with me when I told him that I don't really like the way the map was changed. pls change it back ;_;
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
0:36 − Tried to fix. I hope I got my old rhythm, can't remember what it exactly was.
1:15 − I guess you mean "long stream" (can't remember any long sliders there before). That stream was originally too long, it was not following the music perfectly, so I have removed one circle (+1 triple as a result). But I have changed slider-stream to just a long stream here, I hope it's better.
2:55 − I don't know what are you talking about here, honestly.

Thank you.
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Officially 4 months passed since this map was uploaded!
Mercurial
Mercurial
Happy 4 months :3
Yuzeyun
7,646 posts
Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
I got the 100th post yay

grumd wrote:

Officially 4 months passed since this map was uploaded!
Now people can't complain you're speedrankin' maps, don't you agree ? Happy (Birthday/3), map. :D/
Hadron
13 posts
Joined July 2010
Hadron
I love the map and the music, you've done an amazing job on it. :3 I simply love songs like this! .. Can you maybe recommend a few similar songs / artists? It would be much appreciated. :)
I hope this great map gets ranked soon!
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Perfect.
Frostmourne
osu! Alumni
3,735 posts
Joined November 2009
Frostmourne
bubble land \o/
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd
Yay :3
Chewin
osu! Alumni
4,082 posts
Joined December 2010
Chewin
Hi :3
I started to mod this mapset a couple of days ago but I didn't finish to mod it before .w.
Buh, here's my mod, at least I hope it's helpful to improve your map before to get it ranked.

[Easy]

  1. 00:36:552 (1) - I think a finish on this slider's head would sound good
  2. 00:58:820 (2) - This slider doesn't fit with song as it should. It'd be better to reduce this slider by 1/1 adding a circle on 01:00:676 instead:
    SPOILER
  3. 01:41:501 (2) - There should be a clap on this slider's tail too
  4. 01:43:357 (1) - Finish on this slider's head to emphasize the one in the song
  5. 01:59:439 (1) - ^
  6. 02:20:470 (1) - ^
  7. 02:25:418 (1) - ^
  8. 02:35:470 Remove break time because the arrows appear during the player is still playing
  9. 02:40:418 ^
  10. 02:45:367 ^
[Normal]

  1. You should remove unused green lines, like 00:17:377 / 00:22:326 and the others
  2. 00:49:542 (7) - There should be a clap on this slider's head too
  3. 00:52:016 (3) - Claps at the beginning and end
  4. 01:00:058 (3) - Clap on the head?
  5. 01:17:377 (4) - Finish to emphasize that clash in the cymbals
  6. 01:26:656 (1) - I can hear a sound similar to a soft whistle. Maybe add whistle on it?
  7. 02:35:470 Remove break time?
  8. 03:00:058 (1) - Finish on the head
  9. 03:04:387 (4) - Finish on the end
  10. 03:09:336 (5) - ^
  11. 03:14:594 (4) - ^
  12. 03:19:542 (5) - ^
  13. 03:24:800 (1) - Finish on the head
  14. 03:29:748 (1) - ^
[Hard]

  1. Same of Normal, remove unused green lines
  2. 00:55:186 Remove break time. Arrows appear during the player is still playing
  3. 02:38:717 (5,6) - What about to make a stream here? Or maybe some 1/2 sliders with repeats
  4. 02:48:614 (4,5) - ^
  5. 03:34:387 (7) - New combo?
[Over the Flood]

  1. 00:55:341 Same of Hard, remove break
  2. 02:45:985 (5) - This circle is covered by HP bar, consider to move it
  3. Played this map more times and it's just awesome.
Taiko diffs are both fine to me. I love the MM's one.
That's it, I hope it helps you
grumd
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Topic Starter
grumd
Chewin
Hi :3
I started to mod this mapset a couple of days ago but I didn't finish to mod it before .w.
Buh, here's my mod, at least I hope it's helpful to improve your map before to get it ranked.

[Easy]

  1. 00:36:552 (1) - I think a finish on this slider's head would sound good
    fine!
  2. 00:58:820 (2) - This slider doesn't fit with song as it should. It'd be better to reduce this slider by 1/1 adding a circle on 01:00:676 instead:
    SPOILER
    fixed it in another way. kept such a longer slider, but in another place. check it
  3. 01:41:501 (2) - There should be a clap on this slider's tail too
    nope. compare it with 01:42:738 (3) - sound. you'll see what is a REAL clap. also i'm following a constant pattern (it's impossible to follow this music with hitsounds because it's all 1/1 and 2/1)
  4. 01:43:357 (1) - Finish on this slider's head to emphasize the one in the song
    no, it's not a finish. finishes sound like this 01:35:934. though it needs a clap here, so added a clap
  5. 01:59:439 (1) - ^
  6. 02:20:470 (1) - ^
  7. 02:25:418 (1) - ^
    all of these ^ even no claps here
  8. 02:35:470 Remove break time because the arrows appear during the player is still playing
    arrows appear right after the player presses the last note. i believe that placing a break here is even better. it pays attention to the player, saying that it's not the end of the map and he must still be attentive. and i dont want to hp drain to just eat the player meanwhile..
    also ranking rules say nothing about minimum break length.. so yea
  9. 02:40:418 ^
  10. 02:45:367 ^
[Normal]

  1. You should remove unused green lines, like 00:17:377 / 00:22:326 and the others
    few extra lines in .osu file do not make pain to anybody. some of my already ranked maps had unused green lines that were copied from harder diffs... so its fine
  2. 00:49:542 (7) - There should be a clap on this slider's head too
    ah right
  3. 00:52:016 (3) - Claps at the beginning and end
    yep
  4. 00:53:717 - Also lololol, you have missed this one, i need a clap here too
  5. 01:00:058 (3) - Clap on the head?
    nope, it's only a bass here
  6. 01:17:377 (4) - Finish to emphasize that clash in the cymbals
    no other diff makes this, so i dont want to do it here too
  7. 01:26:656 (1) - I can hear a sound similar to a soft whistle. Maybe add whistle on it?
    this song is full of soft whistles, i have added them at the hardest diff. but i dont want to emphasize them at easier rhythms because it would become too complicated
  8. 02:35:470 Remove break time?
    no, i like all the breaks. also they can show the player if somebody is writing a PM :D
  9. 03:00:058 (1) - Finish on the head
  10. 03:04:387 (4) - Finish on the end
  11. 03:09:336 (5) - ^
  12. 03:14:594 (4) - ^
  13. 03:19:542 (5) - ^
  14. 03:24:800 (1) - Finish on the head
  15. 03:29:748 (1) - ^
    all of those: yes. the hardest diff has such finishes, so add them also here and in Hard
[Hard]

  1. Same of Normal, remove unused green lines
  2. 00:55:186 Remove break time. Arrows appear during the player is still playing
    yea, now it can be confusing, removed
  3. 02:38:717 (5,6) - What about to make a stream here? Or maybe some 1/2 sliders with repeats
    that kinda breaks the flow of this calm part, so i want to keep my rhythm
  4. 02:48:614 (4,5) - ^
  5. 03:34:387 (7) - New combo?
    okay
[Over the Flood]

  1. 00:55:341 Same of Hard, remove break
    yea
  2. 02:45:985 (5) - This circle is covered by HP bar, consider to move it
    fixed
  3. Played this map more times and it's just awesome.
Taiko diffs are both fine to me. I love the MM's one.
That's it, I hope it helps you

Thanks, fixed some stuff :>
Chewin
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Chewin
All right ~
grumd also decided to change the hardest diff's name. I like it more too ;3
Get this map ranked NAO.
Yuugo
129 posts
Joined July 2011
Yuugo
Oh god grumd I love you so much.

Please tell me you're gonna map looming shadow of a tree long gone too. I crave more amazing maps
WVS
547 posts
Joined May 2012
WVS
YES
grumd
1,790 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
grumd

Yuugoh wrote:

Oh god grumd I love you so much.

Please tell me you're gonna map looming shadow of a tree long gone too. I crave more amazing maps
No, I'm not going to map it.
Mercurial
Mercurial
o'er the bubble. ♥
Aurele
Global Moderator
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Joined January 2011
Aurele
YES,
YES,
YYEEEEEESSSSS!!! ♥♥
Cygnus
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Joined December 2011
Cygnus
OMG! GO GO GO!
69653863
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Joined January 2012
69653863
wow it's bubbled now

Go get a rankage grumd!
Xakyrie
667 posts
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Xakyrie
Aw, sorry I couldn't mod this in time. :?
But in any case, this mapset is well-deserving of its bubble. Congrats on the imminent rank! :oops:
grumd
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grumd


Huh, strange thing. I have recieved notification about all posts except of inverness' and Virkato's. Maybe some bug in mail notification system...
Frizz
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Joined April 2011
Frizz
Have you checked your spam folder?
Anyway hope to see it ranked soon (:
grumd
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Topic Starter
grumd
Nothing in my spam folder. Though it would be strange to filter only half of messages with the same template and same sender.
Yuzeyun
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Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
If you didn't read the thread after Philippines' post for inverness' case, that is normal.
wiktoria1_old
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wiktoria1_old
:D
wiktoria1_old
5 posts
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wiktoria1_old
Oh god grumd I love you so much.

Please tell me you're gonna map looming shadow of a tree lo ??ng gone too. I crave more amazing maps
wendao
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Joined August 2012
wendao
when this beatmap get ranked... ;w;
grumd
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Topic Starter
grumd

Harez wrote:

when this beatmap get ranked... ;w;
When Sync gets to it I guess :3
Sync
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Sync
[The Flood Beneath]
00:40:882 (4) - I find it strange that you didn't add a clap here -- perhaps some strange artistic interpretation of yours, but I suggest doing so regardless
00:47:068 (3) - ^
01:08:563 (7) - I know you do this in several other places, but this is one of the only places where it negatively affects the players' feel for the music -- I'm not liking the transition into the next measure here. I feel as if you're not stressing it properly by placing a 1/2-beat slider here and thus, ending it on the downbeat. I'm sure by now you know my feelings concerning this and with that being said, I'd get rid of the slider and replacing it with hit circles. Oh, and don't forget to switch the combos around if you do.
04:12:274 (3,4) - Oh man, you have to rearrange this beat placement. The way you have it now totally doesn't place that much emphasis on the hi-hat things in the background and it's kind of cringe-worthy. I'd get rid of (3,4) and add a 1/2-beat slider at (3)'s original start-point (and essentially, adding a hit circle at (4)'s original end-point). You're basically just reversing (3) and (4).

What can I say? grumd mapping. Probably the best interpretation of this song you're going to find.

[Hard]
02:08:563 (4) - No idea what you're following here. It seems like you're trying to use a 1-beat slider in place of a glitchy drum-roll thing like you've done before but it doesn't quit fit here... I'd just go with the flow and remove (4) entirely, replacing it with a hit circle and then a 1/2-beat slider after it.
02:33:150 (2,3,4) - see 04:12:274 (3,4) of the insane. Basically, arrange your beats in a fashion that emphasizes the claps.
02:54:800 (4) - No. Absolutely not. You will not transition into the kiai through a slider's end point. Hell no. Not when you have a fucking red glow to show how dramatic the song is now. Shorten the slider by 1/4ths of a beat and add a hit circle on the downbeat. It's a little challenging, but it's definitely worth it. Why do you do this to me, grumd? ;_;
03:14:594 (5) - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
03:24:491 (5) - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The easy is super boring, but I didn't expect you to be able to make one in the first place. In fact, I was originally against the idea but now you have a decent spread so it was definitely worth it.

Let's rank it~~~
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Loctav
I want to bring along some extra suggestions on the Easy/Normal and want to take a look on the taikos first.
So don't ninjarank :'3
grumd
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Topic Starter
grumd
Sync: fixed everything, thank you a lot. Updated.
Loctav: when are you going to do that? You're not online atm.
Ohrami
685 posts
Joined March 2010
Ohrami
nobody cares about easy or normal

rank ;-;
[Luanny]
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[Luanny]
^what.

gogo rank ♥
Bass
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Joined January 2009
Bass

Kyou-kun wrote:

nobody cares about easy or normal

rank ;-;
Do you realise this game is played also by people who are less skilled and actually enjoy playing easier diffs?
grumd
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grumd
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Aurele
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Aurele

grumd wrote:

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com
grumd
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grumd
How dare you ninja'ing me
Aurele
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Aurele
I love you too grumd
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Loctav
As I said, there we go:

YOur mapset lacks of spinners. But to be honest, I don't know where to place them. I already see the samescore top 40 and it starts to bug again, when more than 1 person takes #1 with exact the same score :D. If you find a cool place to put a spinner, it would avoid this. Whatever.

[Easy]

00:47:686 (3) - (suggestion only) the 2nd curve begins a bit early. 00:48:305 - should be the spot where the curve should start. Would be something like this: http://puu.sh/1d8mC . At least this would make the player feel the piano more. This somewhat applies on all similiar shaped sliders in the whole diff like 00:41:501 (1) - or 00:55:109 (2) -. Maybe you can add some more relevance to the shape my paying attention to this.
02:37:790 (1) - can't say, but this plays totally awkward. This http://puu.sh/1d8rU or this http://puu.sh/1d8sk is somehow better. The first option should be preferred, since it merges more with the general clickrhythm and the 1/1 gaps you leave between notes.
02:47:686 (1) - ^

[Normal]

Could be just me, but the clap placement is pretty weird sometimes. Maybe you can take a look on it and find some things on your own. I'm okay like it is and I don't want to ruin your rhythms you created.
Stuff like this 01:00:058 (3,4) - (too many claps?), 01:02:532 (1,2) - (claps are odd) or 01:09:336 (4,1) - (lacks of claps?) seems strange to me. Maybe you can revise it a bit :C

00:52:016 (3) - aesthetic-wise, I'd prefer something like this: http://puu.sh/1dqe7


[Wmf's Taiko Muzukashii]

LD -1 - due t length of song and because this is the easiest taiko, it makes newcomers feel better if they at least have a more lenient lifedrain so they can at least pass and improve over time by retrying.

00:19:233 (5) - I don't know what you follow, but if you follow the drums, it should be a kat. if you follow the piano, it should be a kat, as well. :C
00:24:181 (12) - make a kat here, if you follow the drums. if you follow the piano, it's really a don.
00:34:078 (26) - ^
00:48:615 (59,60) - seems that you follow the drums. so I suggest a dk here, because the sound is the reverted version of 00:43:820 (47,48) -
01:12:429 (140) - maybe a kat here? just a suggestion. sounds better to me.
01:49:542 (318) - I see no reason for you putting a kat here. Apparantly you tried to follow the higher noise of the drums in the bg somehow. But here, there is none. :C The higher noise on the red tick on 01:49:697 -. Maybe you can rearrange this a bit?

[MM's Taiko Oni]

I love you.

[The Flood Beneath]

01:16:024 (8) - eeeh, this is 1/8 after the sliderend? I would really NOT do that. I highly disagree with this. Put a 1/4 stream instead. I know it doesnt represent the song, but this alternating is way too unfitting and sudden in my opinion.
nrii_old
nrii_old

Loctav wrote:

01:16:024 (8) - eeeh, this is 1/8 after the sliderend? I would really NOT do that. I highly disagree with this. Put a 1/4 stream instead. I know it doesnt represent the song, but this alternating is way too unfitting and sudden in my opinion.

Loctav wrote:

I know it doesnt represent the song
2012 MAPPING
Ohrami
685 posts
Joined March 2010
Ohrami

Loctav wrote:

[The Flood Beneath]

01:16:024 (8) - eeeh, this is 1/8 after the sliderend? I would really NOT do that. I highly disagree with this. Put a 1/4 stream instead. I know it doesnt represent the song, but this alternating is way too unfitting and sudden in my opinion.
Hi, I just wanted to say, please die

thank you

Also, the map doesn't need a spinner. It's already really hard to SS, so there won't be very many of them, just like grumd's other goreshit map, the nature of dying, which is easier, yet still has 0 SS after being ranked for three and a half months.
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MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz
Should get rid of 01:15:831 (7) - and start the 1/8 on the red tick so there isn't any retarded slider breaks.

Problem solved, please rank.
Ohrami
685 posts
Joined March 2010
Ohrami

MMzz wrote:

Should get rid of 01:15:831 (7) - and start the 1/8 on the red tick so there isn't any retarded slider breaks.

Problem solved, please rank.
I strongly, strongly disagree with this mod. It shouldn't slider break anyone who's good enough to full combo this map, anyway..
ziin
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Joined January 2010
ziin
demo sb
updated osb
2 sections done(ish). Rename r.png to r1.png


TODO:
//76140 77377 heavy rain starts, wind changes direction
//155315 156552 lighter rain, no wind
//175109 175418 torrent rain approaches center point
//194903 195212 torrent of rain, high wind to left, hits ground
//214697 215006 rain slows much slower, gets smaller, slight wind left
//254284 254594 very few drops, big drops

Will I make it before rank I wonder? Probably not, but oh well.
grumd
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Topic Starter
grumd
Thank you Loctav and everybody else, will look everything through in 12 hours. Now going to the uni, bye-bye!
Cygnus
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Cygnus
omg
wendao
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wendao

Philippines wrote:

omg
[Luanny]
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[Luanny]

Harez wrote:

Philippines wrote:

omg
Mercurial
Mercurial
o'er the rank.
riffy
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hi. can i leave here my 2000th post? o3o
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