21:04 Ylinestra44: Hi there
21:04 dragonxcz: hi~
21:04 dragonxcz: Do you need something?
21:05 Ylinestra44: Yep. In your queue you wrote to catch you in-game for a mod.
21:05 dragonxcz: True
21:05 dragonxcz: So feel free to send me it.
21:06 *Ylinestra44 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/178427 Kelly Clarkson - Because of You]
21:06 dragonxcz: I don't like english music, but I go check it.
21:14 dragonxcz: Since I don't like the song I'll not mod it through forum. If you want my mod, you must accept IRC mod.
21:14 Ylinestra44: Okay.
21:16 dragonxcz: Okay, so can I start?
21:18 Ylinestra44: Of course
21:19 dragonxcz: 00:04:558 (4) - New combo here for consistecny
21:19 dragonxcz: *consistency
21:19 Ylinestra44: Which diff?
21:19 dragonxcz: Fault
21:19 dragonxcz: Sorry
21:20 Ylinestra44: What consistency? xD
21:20 Ylinestra44: Fault is the only diff where I made the NC with the vocals or the instrument. So there's no real consitency =/
21:21 dragonxcz: This is almost the same part of song and there is NC 00:10:130 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:21 Ylinestra44: Yes, because on 00:10:130 (1) - she starts "singing"
21:21 Ylinestra44: The notes before are instruments.
21:23 dragonxcz: 00:04:558 (4) - it's the same, she is sighing.
21:23 dragonxcz: But it's up to you if you'll fix it, I know if it's bad or not.
21:24 dragonxcz: 00:07:130 (1,2,3) - DS
21:25 Ylinestra44: Fixed
21:27 dragonxcz: 00:13:129 (1) - Overmapped note. I recommend adding spinner on 00:12:058 - and end on 00:13:129 -
21:27 dragonxcz: instead of it
21:27 dragonxcz: 00:20:630 (1,2,3,4) - Make them symmetrical or at least fix DS on 00:21:487 (3,4) -
21:28 dragonxcz: 00:25:130 (1,2,3) - DS
21:28 Ylinestra44: That one note is the only real one without music behind, yes, but I think it kinda fits..
21:28 Ylinestra44: Fixed the DS on the (3,4)
21:29 dragonxcz: 00:31:558 (1,2) - DS
21:29 Ylinestra44: Fixed the DS on (1,2,3) as well.
21:29 dragonxcz: 00:38:630 (1,2) - DS
21:30 Ylinestra44: Fixed, and fixed
21:30 dragonxcz: 00:38:844 (2,3,4) - well... this pattern is okay, but for me it feels weird, because slider shape is not perfect
21:31 Ylinestra44: I like it, won't change
21:31 dragonxcz: Those lazy mappers
It would be just this 00:38:844 (2) - center point on x:229 y:51 and CTRL+C, CTRL+V
21:31 dragonxcz:
21:32 dragonxcz: 00:50:844 (4) - NC for consistency
21:33 Ylinestra44: I don't shape sliders without grid snap
21:33 dragonxcz: okay, grid is not important so much... but okay
21:33 Ylinestra44: The NC on the first "You" is because of the Kiai start
21:33 Ylinestra44: In the whole rest of the map there won't be a NC on the "You", afaik
21:33 dragonxcz: So delete it.. lol
21:34 Ylinestra44: I.. prefer a NC at the Kiai start, even if isn't necessary.
21:34 Ylinestra44: *if it
21:36 dragonxcz: 00:40:558 (timing) - add green line instead of red if you need it
21:36 dragonxcz: 01:37:129 (timing) - ^
21:36 Ylinestra44: That red line is to fix the metronom
21:37 Ylinestra44: TicClick told me to add
21:37 Ylinestra44: Should be correct xD
21:38 dragonxcz: Uhm... bullshit, metronom works same without those
21:38 Ylinestra44: Well, with those additional red lines my Kiais always begin on a big white tick.
21:39 Ylinestra44: As long as no XAT tells me to delete, I'll keep 'em
21:40 dragonxcz: Okay, it's no change and it's totally unnecessary because it doesn't move kiai on 1/1, it's on 1/1 for all the
21:40 dragonxcz: time, but okay.
21:40 Ylinestra44: Yes, it is on 1/1, but on the big white instead of the 2nd little.
21:40 Ylinestra44: Either way, what's next?
21:41 dragonxcz: I found something, but moved on other place, must find it lol
21:41 Ylinestra44: xD
21:41 dragonxcz: 01:56:201 (1,3) - symmetry?
21:42 Ylinestra44: You mean to Copy one of them and rotate?
21:42 dragonxcz: yeah
21:42 Ylinestra44: Nah
21:43 dragonxcz: Why?
21:43 Ylinestra44: They are not that different (I just checked it), and it's not a 120° angle, so I see no need to.
21:43 dragonxcz: Okay, but it's unsymmetrical
21:44 dragonxcz: 02:37:130 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Possibly change it to starr pattern
21:44 dragonxcz: Because squares are not good on Hard diff
21:44 Ylinestra44: ?
21:44 Ylinestra44: This isn't a square
21:44 Ylinestra44: It's made with Ctrl Shift D
21:44 dragonxcz: It is squeare
21:44 Ylinestra44: A star with 7 edges
21:45 Ylinestra44: Just check (1,2,3,4). They don't build a square
21:45 dragonxcz: Those are 1+1/2 of unperfect squares
21:45 dragonxcz: squares are not good
21:46 dragonxcz: on hard
21:46 dragonxcz: 02:45:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - DS
21:46 Ylinestra44:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/446585 tell me which 4 notes build a square.
21:46 Ylinestra44: You won't find any, because I made that pattern with the "Create Polygon Circles"-tool.
21:47 Ylinestra44: Fixed the DS
21:47 dragonxcz: 1,2,3,4 is unperfect square
21:47 dragonxcz: Fun fact is that square is polygon
21:47 Ylinestra44: ...
21:47 dragonxcz: 02:51:701 (3,4,1) - avoid this overlap
21:48 dragonxcz: *or it's almost polygon
21:48 dragonxcz: 02:52:771 (2,3,4) - DS
21:48 Ylinestra44: Fixed the overlap
21:49 Ylinestra44: And the DS
21:49 dragonxcz: 03:00:271 (6,7,1,2) - DS
21:50 dragonxcz: Well, why is NC here? 03:06:271 (1) -
21:50 Ylinestra44: Fixed
21:50 Ylinestra44: Because 03:04:558 (1,2,3,4) - is instrumental, and then I changed back to the voices.
21:50 Ylinestra44: *voice~
21:51 Ylinestra44: Lemme guess: Next is: 03:08:630 (1,2) - DS ?
21:51 dragonxcz: okay
21:51 dragonxcz: Almost
21:51 dragonxcz: 03:06:058 (4,1) - DS
21:52 dragonxcz: 03:08:630 (1,2) - DS here as you said
21:52 Ylinestra44: What is there with the DS?
21:52 Ylinestra44: It's a x0,99 DS.
21:52 Ylinestra44: Don't see a reason to change
21:52 dragonxcz: So it's inconsistent
21:52 Ylinestra44: Trough the whole map my DS is between x0,98 and x1,02
21:52 dragonxcz: I mean unnecessary change of snap
21:54 dragonxcz: Well 03:21:701 (1) - move 5th point on (don't count start and end point) x348 y208 to look symmetrical
21:55 dragonxcz: 03:23:415 (2) - ^
21:55 Ylinestra44: Those two ARE symmetrical
21:55 dragonxcz: So far
21:56 dragonxcz: *not so far lol
:D:D
21:57 Ylinestra44: Yes, they are. I needed about.. 2minutes to make them in my eyes as symmetrical and nice as possible.
21:59 dragonxcz: Oh... sorry my wrong, symmetrical, but they're ending maybe so close to start so it looked weird. Forget about
21:59 dragonxcz: it
22:00 dragonxcz: 03:25:771 (1,2,3,4) - DS
22:00 Ylinestra44: Fixed
22:01 dragonxcz: 03:29:415 (3) - Finish on end is unnecessary, cosider deleting it or at least adding whistle instead of finish.
22:01 dragonxcz: it is unnecessary because song ends calmly and you put dramatical finish on it.
22:02 Ylinestra44: A "dramatical" finish with 5% volume
22:02 dragonxcz: Well, it is.
22:02 Ylinestra44: If possible I would decrease it further, but it's not possible, and I prefer a finish, since it's not the very end of
22:02 Ylinestra44: the song.
22:06 dragonxcz: Now Mistake. I know why you selected this name 02:49:987 (2,3,4) -
22:06 Ylinestra44: ?
22:07 dragonxcz: Stream on Normal?
22:07 Ylinestra44: 5 1/2 notes on 70 BPM you call a stream?
22:07 Ylinestra44: It's three 1/1 clicks, don't see the difficulty here
22:07 Ylinestra44: Ah, sorry, 3 1/2 clicks
22:08 Ylinestra44: But still
22:08 dragonxcz: I think hard combination with notes
22:08 Ylinestra44: By the way: Wait until you see 03:04:558 (3,4,5,1) -
22:08 Ylinestra44: If you already don't like this one.
22:08 dragonxcz: It's bad though
22:09 Ylinestra44: Somehow this diff, which is supposed to be a normal, needs some difficulty.
22:09 Ylinestra44: And these two places sounded good for the only 1/4 notes in this diff.
22:10 dragonxcz: 02:49:987 (2,3,4) - Can be okay, because it's 1/2 click, but 03:04:558 (3,4,5) - is not so good, because it's
22:10 dragonxcz: various
22:11 dragonxcz: And the map follows 1/2 notes until this.
22:11 dragonxcz: Weaknes.
22:11 Ylinestra44: Well, they follow the song with the repeats, so I won't change~
22:11 dragonxcz: 00:01:987 (2,3,4) - This shape doesn't make sense
22:12 dragonxcz: Ah... this map is full of nonsense shapes.
22:12 Ylinestra44: I didn't recognize (2) and (3) are on the same y-coordinate
22:13 dragonxcz: This has sense and it's perfect for easy diff.
http://puu.sh/19NAY22:13 Ylinestra44: Tell me the "nonsense shapes", and I'll try to explain
22:14 Ylinestra44: Nah, the slider then should go down first and then up - higher as the start
22:14 dragonxcz: 00:16:558 (3,4,1) -
22:14 dragonxcz: 00:22:558 (2,3,4) -
22:15 dragonxcz: 00:44:844 (2,3,4) -
22:15 Ylinestra44: Okay, on the first example I added the (4) to make the diff harder, this doesn't follow a shape
22:16 dragonxcz: Easy is diff about blanketing and poor shapes, not about something special or something awesome or
22:16 dragonxcz: something hard etc. orz
22:16 Ylinestra44: Second is a curve which begins top right, goes to the bottom left and make a nice curve in general in my
22:16 Ylinestra44: eyes
22:16 Ylinestra44: Third example is the same, just the other way round.
22:17 Ylinestra44: Poor shapes? What is a poor shape for you?
22:17 dragonxcz: But it goes in other way of slider
22:17 dragonxcz: Just minute
22:18 *dragonxcz is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/110326 Denkare - Elder Things (Short Ver.) [Easy]]
22:18 dragonxcz: perfect shown of easy diff. which contains poor shapes, sliders and blanketing.
22:18 Ylinestra44: Lemme dl
22:19 Ylinestra44: And about the things in easy you pointed out: They follow (this)[http://puu.sh/19NGh] shape, because I like
22:19 Ylinestra44: the flow of that.
22:20 Ylinestra44: And about that easy.
22:20 dragonxcz: go ahead
22:20 Ylinestra44: I absolutely dislike those "big" angles, not-curved sliders
22:20 Ylinestra44: I miss the flow there, sorry
22:21 dragonxcz: Uhm.. it flows awesomely with the song, but people doesn't often understand how to map easy. So sad :O
22:21 Ylinestra44: Maybe my understanding of flow is so different, but I don't like that.
22:22 dragonxcz: But I think Weakness is quite good.
