How luck? U can see when ur psi blade bounce. And its Ferrari 430, one of the best players in the world.

Great new update! Does the Dire have a blue/grey donkey? Both sides have their own courier icons now.

Visage looks too much like OD

Keeper of the Light looks too much like Zeus. And Nyx Assassin like Lurker from Starcraft.

Shit game, wouldn't play.

Nyx looks badass

No more heroes 'til September, guys (After The Internationals)

Mercurial wrote:

No more heroes 'til September, guys (After The Internationals)

that sucks

WHAT THE FUQ!!!!!!!!!!! THAT BS, OKOK WHO CAME UP WITH THAT CRAP???!!!!! THIS BETTAH BE A JOKE

^He's referring to no new heroes til september, but that doesn't even matter, cause new heroes aren't actually "new", they are available in vanilla DotA anyway.

If I remember right, all of HoN's heroes are now free to play (as of last week).
In a few months, LoL's free champion pool is said to be extended to 20 heroes (now I'm motivated).

Let the MOBA wars begin. (For real.)

wait, how does LoL have a war with itself?

[AirCoN] wrote:

wait, how does LoL have a war with itself?

I didn't say that.

And if I did, I didn't mean to.

No one knows what you meant to say regardless.

DotA thread.

Talking about LoL and HoN

It makes too much sense.

i think this settles it

Will do scrims against mTw & mouz with my team next week =p

Mikey wrote:

i think this settles it

This made me laugh ^^

http://c.steelseries.com/dota2betakey?code=deLfys4V

thanks in advance :3

http://c.steelseries.com/dota2betakey?code=BIWLNspm

I herd you liek click buttons.

fuck, i'm getting scammed left and right by people posting random links.

HIGHLIGHTS:
- Added Swap Hero. This cannot be used after creeps spawn or in SD. Accessible via right click on heroes in the scoreboard.
- Spectators watching Dota TV can now access the dashboard chat channels.
- All broadcasters in a channel now transmit their voice to spectators that have selected that channel.

GAMEPLAY:
- Bloodseeker: Fixed Blood Bath not working on siege units.
- Bounty Hunter: Fixed Shadow Walk damaging buildings.
- Juggernaut: Fixed Omnislash jumping to ancients.
- Juggernaut: Fixed Bladefury showing per target visual effect when hurting invis units.
- Lifestealer: Fixed Ensnare not going away after using Infest.
- Lone Druid: Fixed creep aggro behavior with Spirit Bear
- Templar Assassin: Fixed Meld when attacking Items.
- Undying: Fixed Tombstone spawning zombies against couriers.
- Undying: Fixed Tombstone receiving too much aggro from towers.
- Undying: Fixed Zombies not dying when their target becomes invisible.
- Fixed canceling TP scrolls causing projectiles to be dodged.
- Fixed gold lost on death being reduced too much when carrying Bloodstone.
- Fixed various bounce abilities malfunctioning if the targets die during it.

UI :
- Added Swap Hero. This cannot be used after creeps spawn or in SD. Accessible via right click on heroes in the scoreboard.
- Spectators watching Dota TV can now access the dashboard chat channels.
- Broadcasters will now see lines drawn by their cobroadcasters.
- Spectators will now see all lines drawn by any broadcaster in their selected broadcast channel.
- The Tournament Panel now fits 4 live games in preparation for The International.
- When the cursor is hidden due to inactivity, it no longer causes unit glows or other highlight shennanigans.
- Fixed a bug where hero icons were missing from chat lines occasionally.
- The Hero selector now allows instant spawn on public games with only 1 or 2 humans in them.
- Fixed the chat bubble display to work properly with open mic thresholding.
- Fixed timeline markers not updating correctly if you jumped around in a replay.
- Added a toggle-able chat window to the Hero Selection Spectator view.
- Various improvements to the readability of the Hero Selection Spectator view.
- Spectator view of Hero Selection now shows player's names under their selected heroes.
- Fixed spectators not being able to see item ownership on the courier.
- The buyback stat dropdown now shows if the hero will or won't be able to buyback if the hero dies now (and if they can't, it shows the remaining cooldown or the extra gold needed to be able to die and buyback).
- Fixed rogue selection rings in spectator mode.
- Added a console command for league admins to end the game (dota_ref_winner_radiant/dota_ref_winner_dire)

VISUALS:
- Fixed bug where some heroes would not display any wearables when watching replays.

AUDIO:
- Added colored VU meter in the audio settings panel for evaluating and adjusting volume levels.
- Added "mute co-broadcasters" setting.
- All broadcasters in a channel now transmit their voice to spectators that have selected that channel.
- Broadcasters that are in the same channel can now hear each other when they talk.
- Hero ban sounds are now enabled when spectating Captain's Mode.

WORKSHOP:
- Fixed a bug in Wearable Importing when using SMD files (fixes items not attaching correctly to the hero model)

Meh, no swap for SD

And TI is free for everyone in DotaTV. Let's hope the servers won't crash.

I play in first DotA, but soon move on to the DotA2.

Is just an Illusion



http://osu.ppy.sh/s/56928

I miss the weekly Hero updates. Looking forward to TI2 though.

I still have my T-shirt and 3 wristlets from the first International. Good memories connected with them, I will wear them while watching TI2.

I can't play undying right D:

Pizzicato wrote:

I can't play undying right D:

I can't play this game right D:

nm, was fake idk anymore, f it

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changelog:

Experimental adjustment to roshan area (will probably need a lot of tweaking, if we even do it)
Eye of Skadi now gives +25 bonus damage
Blood Bath enemy hero aoe death detection increased from 225 to 325
* Chilling Touch no longer reduces attack speed, duration reduced from 40 to 30 seconds
* Double Edge does its damage in a 175 aoe around the target
* Added a 1 second cooldown to placing Observer and Stentry wards (to help prevent accidental usage)
* Radiance burn damage increased from 40 to 45
* Tuskarr base damage increased by 5
* Unstable Current duration increased from 0.3/0.6/0.9/1.2 to 0.4/0.8/1.2/1.6
* Moon Glaive bounce count increased from 1/2/3/4 to 2/3/4/5
* Nerubian Assassin's Impale damage increased from 80/140/200/260 to 80/160/240/320
* Nerubian Assassin's Impale travel time decreased from 1600 to 700
* Nerubian Assassin's Mana Burn manacost reduced from 90/110/130/150 to 100
* Spiked Carapace manacost from 50 to 40
* Death Coil cooldown from 6 to 5 seconds
* Boots of Speed are now a sharable item
* Primal Split units are no longer invulnerable to Black Hole
* Shrapnel now provides vision in the area it is cast
* Shackleshot no longer has any effect if it fails to shackle the target
* Helm of the Dominator cooldown reduced from 300 to 60, no longer has a limited (20 min) duraiton and is just replaced whenever a new one is converted
* Can no longer Force Staff through Kinetic Field
* Rupture cooldown from 70/60/50 to 50/45/40
Kunkka's base armor increased by 1

- Impale speed from 800 to 950
* Fixed Phase Shift invulnerability duration ending 0.25 seconds too soon
* Reworked Sunray
* Replaced Icarus Dive with Overheat


Sunray: [A2L0]
========
Channels a sunray in the targeted direction. Deals dps and slows to all heroes in that path. The damage increases per second. Maximum channel time of 6 seconds.

Starting DPS: 40 + 1/2/3/4% Max HP per second
Ending DPS: 100 + 3/6/9/12% Max HP per second

AOE: 150
Distance: 1600

Slow: 30%
Slow Duration: 0.5 seconds

Cooldown: 20
Manacost: 100
HP Cost: 10% Current HP

- Fixed Sunray not doing the right amount of damage
- Reduced Sunray variable damage from 1/2/3/4->3/6/9/12 to 1/2/3/4->2/4/6/8
- Reduced Sunray constant damage from 40->100 to 20/30/40/50->40/60/80/100
- Fixed Sunray slow duration
- Increased Overheat cooldown from 13 to 22/19/16/13
* Leech Seed no longer stops healing when the target dies
- Undid all Impale changes on Nerubian Assassin

Overheat: [A2L1]
=========
Targets a small area, causing all enemy units to overheat taking damage over time and losing their ability to attack.

AOE: 190
DPS: 20/40/60/80
Duration: 5
Cast Range: 750

Manacost: 75
Cooldown: 13

- Fixed some more stuff with Sunray damage
- Fixed Leech Seed losing a tick of duration when target dies
* Jakiro's facing direction now matches his turn rate a little more (this is purely a visual thing)
- Added burn visual effect for Overheat dps
* Quill Spray damage cap increased from 220 to 300
* Rod of Atos bonus HP from 250 to 300
* Sunder is no longer blocked by Magic Immunity
* Armlet HP regeneration increased from 5 to 8
* Armlet lifedrain increased from 37 to 40
* Bloodstone charges now increment if you get a kill out of range
* Dark Pact cooldown from 10/9/8/7 to 9/8/7/6
* Shadow Dance HP regen increased from 3/4/5 to 3/5/7
* Level 3 Marksmanship agility increased from 45 to 60
* Split Shot damage from 45/55/65/76 to 50/60/70/80
* Desolate search aoe improved from 325 to 300
* Silencer strength growth from 1.7 to 2.0
* Lycan base armor reduced by 1
* Treants magic resistance decreased from 33% to 25%
* Thundergod's Wrath cooldown decreased from 120 to 100
* Death Ward attack cooldown improved from 0.3 to 0.25
* Warcry aoe increased from 700 to 900
* Clockwerk Goblin strength gain increased from 2.4 to 2.7
* Enfeeble cooldown reduced from 12 to 8
* Spirit Lance slow duration increased from 3 to 3.25 seconds
* Increased Roshan turn rate to fix some abuses
* Dark Seer movement speed reduced from 305 to 300


* You can now target yourself with Unstable Concoction
* Removed Charge of Darkness debuff icon indicator
- Fixed Roshan attack detection area being too small
- Increased Sunray Slow
- Meta manacost from 70/85/100/115 to 70/80/90/100
- Meta illusions dmg 20/30/40/50 -> 30/40/50/60, dmg taken from 400% to 250%
- Overheat duration from 5 to 4 seconds, damage rescaled to be the same



* Last Word intelligence steal from 1/2 (allies/self) kills to 2 always
* Poison Nova now affects buildings [Need feedback :wacko:]
- Fixed Zeus ult on scoreboard
- Fixed some tooltips
* Spiked Carapace now lasts for 2.5 seconds (down from 4.5) seconds, but reflects and stuns all sources of damage over that period instead of just the first one
- Overhead damage reduced from 25/50/75/100 per second to 20/40/60/80
- Overheat manacost from 75 to 80/90/100/110
* Fixed Overwhelming Odds giving 6% instead of 9% per hero
- Fixed bloodstone global kills change not working


- Fixed Double edge aoe damage hitting allies instead of enemies sometimes
* Recipe items no longer sell for 80% of its price (now 50% like regular items)
- Shackleshot from 0.25 to 0.1 duration
- Fixed Dominator cd tooltip/droppability
* Vacuum cooldown increased from 16 to 17
- Overheat cast range reduced from 750 to 600
* Lycan strength gain from 2.75 to 2.4
- Undid Lycan 1 armor reduction
* Lycan's Shapeshift form no longer gives 2 bonus armor
* Acid Spray manacost from 160 to 115/130/145/160
* Unstable Concoction max damage from 130/200/270/340 to 150/220/290/360
* Static Field aoe increased from 1000 to 1200
* Reaper's Scythe aghanims now deals pure damage
* Inner Vitality can now be cast on magic immune targets
* Doom's base armor increased by 1
* Phantom Lancer agility gain from 2.8 to 3.4
* Anti-mage movement speed reduced from 320 to 315
* Fiery Soul attack speed bonus increased from 40/50/60/70 to 40/55/70/85
* The Swarm's attack rate improved from 1.5 to 1.35
* Degen Aura increased from 300 to 315
* Enfeeble damage reduction from 25/50/75/100 to 30/60/90/120
* Presence of the Dark Lord armor reduction increased from 2/3/4/5 to 3/4/5/6


- Fixed Inner Vitality bkb casting
- Fixed some tooltips
- Undid self targeting with Unstable Concoction
* Lothar's Edge duration from 9 to 12 seconds
* Batrider strength gain increased from 2.0 to 2.4
* Power Cogs damage/drain from 60/90/120/150 to 80/120/160/200


- Fixed some tooltips
* Gyrocopter base movement speed from 305 to 315
* Homing Missle now gives you vision of the target it is seeking
* Goblin's Greed bonus scaling adjusted from 2/4/6/8 + 2 to 4/6/8/10 + 1/2/3/4
* Enfeeble can no longer be dispelled
* Great Cleave aoe increased from 200 to 215
* Force Staff cooldown increased from 20 to 24
* Dagon cooldown progression from 40/36/32/28/24 to 35/30/25/20/15
* Snowball now carries all your summoned units as well

* Mana Leak cd from 18 to 16
* Concussive Shot cooldown from 20/19/18/17 to 20/18/16/14
* Concussive Shot aoe from 200 to 225
* Veil of Discord aoe from 500 to 550
* Silencer strength growth from 1.7 to 2.2
* Power Cogs duration from 3/4/5/6 to 3/4.5/6/7.5
* Take Aim from 65/130/195/260 to 70/140/210/280
- Fixed satanic tooltip (It does 200% not 175%)
* Flak Cannon aoe increased from 800 to 900
- Great cleave increased to 230
* Ogre Magi's Aghanim Unrefined Fireblast cooldown from 20 to 10
* Force Staff cooldown increased to 26
* Life Break Aghanim's cooldown from 24/16/8 to 4
* Finger of Death Aghanim now bounces once to a nearby enemy unit up to 200 units away (tooltip not updated yet)
* Vendetta movement speed from 10/15/20% to 16/18/20%
* Mana Burn rate from 4x Int to 5x Int
* Replaced Expulsion with Summon Shade (needs new name!)
* Reworked Firestorm (not channeling, doesn't hurt buildings, rebalanced numbers, heals allied units)


Firestorm:
==========
Calls down 4 waves of fire that damage enemy units and heal allied units in an area.

Damage per wave: 40/60/80/100
Heal per wave: 20/30/40/50

AOE: 450
Casting Range: 775
Cooldown: 16
Manacost: 130
Summon Shade:
==============
Summons an Shade. Can have up to 1/2/3/4 out at a given time. They move fast and are invisible when idle. Can target an enemy to infest them, causing the shade to become consumed, dealing dps and silencing the enemy target for a duration.

DPS: 30/40/50/60
Duration: 4

Fade Time: 1 second
HP: 50 (Magic Immune)
Movement Speed: 522
Cooldown: 25/20/15/10
Manacost: 40

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Frost Wyrm
==========

Scourge
Range
Intelligence

Movespeed: 290
Starting Armor: 3

Attack Damage: 38-46
Attack Range: 600

Intelligence: 25 + 2.4
Strength: 24 + 2.1
Agility: 16 + 1.9
Ability 1: [Trap] A2L9 - R
-----------
Your attacks passively place a marker on enemies (lasts 20 seconds). Upon activation, all enemies with the marker are frozen and the marker is removed. You gain bonus damage for each unit that got frozen. Casting the spell removes the marker from all units, dead units do not count towards the marker bonus.

Hero Marker Bonus: +30 damage
Non-Hero Marker Bonus: +10 damage
Bonus Damage Duration: 8 seconds

Freeze duration: 1/1.5/2/2.5

Cooldown: 20
Manacost: 130
//------




- Fixed Shades not spawning invis
- Shades HP increased to 250
- Shades infest cast range increased to 600
- Fixed the Finger of Death aghanims bounce from having 15% damage reduction
- Fixed Firestorm not hurting heroes


* Max level heroes no longer drain XP
* Enemeis can no longer see the countdown numbers for Chemical Rage
- Summon Shade does not require a corpse anymore
- Summon Shade count from 1/2/3/4 to 2/3/4/5
- Summon Shade cooldown from 30/25/20/15 to 25/20/15/10




- Fixed the DPS from the shades sometimes causing a suicide death
- Fixed the infset from the shades causing -50% dmg ont he target
- Fixed some levelup issues with the shades once we made it not require corpses (the dps wasn't getting upgraded after that)

- Shades HP reduced from 250 to 100
- Shades infest cast range decreased from 600 to 300
- Spiked Carapace cd increased from 10 to 14
- Spiked Carapace won't retrigger on the same target twice
- Finger of Death Aghanim's aoe from 200 to 225
* Magnus agility growth increased from 1.8 to 2.5
* Magnus base armor increased by 1
- Overheat secondary effect changed from disarm to -150 attack speed
- Overheat aoe increased from 190 to 225
- Soul Keeper Metamorph illusions attack range from 550 to 650
- Soul Keeper base armor increased by 2
- Fixed the DPS from the shades sometimes causing a suicide death
- Fixed the infset from the shades causing -50% dmg ont he target
- Fixed some levelup issues with the shades once we made it not require corpses (the dps wasn't getting upgraded after that)


This is where I stop. This last one was beta 17, and there are 34 betas currently. There are 2 new heroes implemented right now - both aggressive casters. I think a lot of people will like this version as it buffs the lower heroes while knocking down the high tier heroes, without setting them down too much. In general it is 80% polish which is always great to have. I'm open for questions if anyone wants them.

Notes:
The shade ability was removed later in the beta, replaced with something else
The overheat ability was removed as well

First of all this was related to WC3 DotA, so nothing with a "big patch" but more like a "big new version".

Second:


Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ ... on/c5siudw

Not sure who is the troll here.

DOTERS

dother

liked nearly all of the balance changes there, except for the acid nerf to alchemist. its a huge nerf. lets make one of the shittest heroes even shitter yeah!

icefrog loves nerfing alch so I wouldn't doubt it.

Some more leaked/rumor stuff. None said to be true so its w/e right now.

http://www.dota-blog.com/2012/08/dota-6 ... place.html

Oh god, I just donwloaded the map. New Roshan pit O_O will take some time to get used to it (assuming it is no fake ofc).

And the Scourge anicent camp has Sentinel tree in it .

Tshemmp wrote:

Oh god, I just donwloaded the map. New Roshan pit O_O will take some time to get used to it (assuming it is no fake ofc).

And the Scourge anicent camp has Sentinel tree in it .

Your link seems dead here.

aaaand counting
EDIT:


i guess it gets stuck on 99:00

Pizzicato wrote:

aaaand counting
EDIT:


i guess it gets stuck on 99:00

holy shit were you low priority or what

Why do I fail with everybody except Queen of Pain.

Dota2 Documentary. Shit's dope as fuck. Dendi's sister is fucking hot.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/4g14 ... ry-trailer

Cyclone wrote:

Why do I fail with everybody except Queen of Pain.

probably because shes a fucking broken and imbalanced

Mikey wrote:

holy shit were you low priority or what

SEA servers were broken yesterday

Mikey wrote:

Cyclone wrote:

Why do I fail with everybody except Queen of Pain.

probably because shes a fucking broken and imbalanced

But does that make me a bad player?

Cyclone wrote:

But does that make me a bad player?

if you fail with everyone but one hero.. yes, i think so

Cyclone wrote:

But does that make me a bad player?

Yes.

Cyclone wrote:

But does that make me a bad player?

Try Lycan.

Mikey wrote:

Cyclone wrote:

Why do I fail with everybody except Queen of Pain.

probably because shes a fucking broken and imbalanced

QOP Broken and Imbalanced...

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Dota2 Documentary. Shit's dope as fuck. Dendi's sister is fucking hot.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/4g14 ... ry-trailer

https://twitter.com/DendiBoss/status/236479953938550784

lol

are you serious shes like on par with invoker almost. theres a reason nearly everytime i get paired with some "professional" ehome/lgd/orange player on match making they pick a safe easy op hero like storm/invoker/qop/morph.

Sure she's played a lot and is a good hero but she is by no means unbalanced and broken...

I think you're a bit confused mikey, just because a skilled player is playing a certain hero doesn't mean that hero is imbalanced/broken. Sure QoP is one of "the best" mid heroes in the game, but it doesn't make her imbalanced or broken, there are lots of heroes that can take her on mid, but more importantly if you're not retarded and position yourself correctly you should be able to handle mid quite well against her.

Also QoP is one of the best pubstompers, that's why you see her so often in your "ehome/lgd/orange" super matchmaking games.

Oh yeah I also play an ok windrunner.

im not confused at all. too much base damage. too much mobility and utility. just like invoker. btw the only heroes that can take qop on are invoker, TA, and tinker. even od and batrider get stomped. there are a fair few more OP heroes than qop, such as lycan, naga, furion etc etc, but qop is still too strong. the metagame is so fucking stale and lame at the moment its a disgrace

Mikey wrote:

im not confused at all. too much base damage. too much mobility and utility. just like invoker. btw the only heroes that can take qop on are invoker, TA, and tinker. even od and batrider get stomped. there are a fair few more OP heroes than qop, such as lycan, naga, furion etc etc, but qop is still too strong. the metagame is so fucking stale and lame at the moment its a disgrace

I don't see how you can be bothered by QoP's base damage, it's barely above heroes such as Death Prophet and lower than one's such as OD or WD, the only thing good about her base damage is it has low gap from min to max but i would hardly consider that broken. as for mobility, what makes her more "broken" than a hero like AM with her blink? And as for utility, what does she bring to a fight that another hero couldn't? Aside from a big AoE ult if you catch bad players grouped up in a huge ball.

ETA: and as far as public matches are concerned, she has an under 50% all time win ratio, with almost 2 million total picks.

btw the only heroes that can take qop on are invoker, TA, and tinker.

the metagame is so fucking stale and lame at the moment its a disgrace

Please uninstall DOTA 2 now and get the fuck out of this thread, you're a fucking disgrace.

guys, guys. I just asked if I was a baddie. No need for fighting.

Cyclone wrote:

guys, guys. I just asked if I was a baddie. No need for fighting.

Have you played a game as Zeus yet? He's always pretty good to mess around on.

Soulclenz wrote:

Cyclone wrote:

guys, guys. I just asked if I was a baddie. No need for fighting.

Have you played a game as Zeus yet? He's always pretty good to mess around on.

Press R to killsteal always brings a good laugh.

Gabi wrote:

btw the only heroes that can take qop on are invoker, TA, and tinker.

the metagame is so fucking stale and lame at the moment its a disgrace

Please uninstall DOTA 2 now and get the fuck out of this thread, you're a fucking disgrace.

lol wanna 1v1 me as any hero and ill go qop? seriously play me you little rat cunt

Why do people pull out the "1v1 me" card when DoTA isn't a 1v1 game? All Gabi would need to do is pick BS or something if he wanted to face off against your QoP purely 1on1, she isn't some sort of free win hero dude.

Kinda late, but for anyone who's playing Dota 1 still randomly (like me) 1.5 Dota transform

http://www.lancraftwc3.com/2012/08/dota ... -pack.html

Get a Sven/Naga Siren. Gang QoP. Profit, she got basically 0 HP and with those 2 heroes she dies in less than a sec (Gabi's experience *giggle*)

I also never had any problems raping a QoP mid with heroes like Invoker, Storm (<- need lv6 or retarded QoP to kill her tho)or any other mid-able hero. Otherwise just organize some gangs/wards and she'll be unable to do anything. This works for all the other 89 heroes in DOTA 2 as well, it's the most basic strategy to shut heroes down and it's no problem for QoP as well.

ok more seriously this time, i'm going to shut this thread down if you guys can't be nice. Looking at you gabi and mikey.

Pfft, can't disjoint storm bolt, and ensare OP.

Also yeah i'll take you on 1v1 mid anyday, should be easy enough.

Night stalker is the best hero against QoP. Haven't you guys realized that yet?
(Just rune control mid and you'll be fine)
or you may wanna go OD/bloodseeker

I think neither BS nor OD can lane against QoP, I speak from experience. I get Shadow Strike maxed, spam it and the lane is as good as won, you got a higher attack range than OD and even if he increases the dmg-gap through banish, you still have the minus-movement speed which copes very well with your higher AR.
Against bloodseeker the same, Shadow Strike him and hit him if he wants to last hit. You might need to denie him some creeps which shouldn't be that big of a problem, he can't regen up his HP against SS- & autohit-dmg...
Overall she's just a very strong hero but there's many who can also win against her, it all depends on the player (And that again says that winning with OD/BS is nothing near impossible against QoP, it's just that there's natural advantage sometimes). I only remember losing against a QoP 2-3 times and if you say that my enemies were all just bad players then that contradicts with the fact that "she's an op hero and every bloody noob can win the lane/own with her"

it's all about rune controlling qop on mid man

If you're playing against a QoP you want to make sure to control the lane closer towards your side of the hill so you can uphill fog her to avoid her from getting to close to shadow strike you. Shadow strike has a 400 casting range, which means you have to get relatively close to the opponent before you can cast it.

If you're playing OD, with good enough reflexes you can banish yourself if she tries to SS you, however as OD you will want to focus on just farming rather than rune control etc.

If you're playing BS (or any other melee hero against her for that matter) you often HAVE to have your creep wave closer towards your hill or you won't be able to farm. You can easily catch some farm by spamming auto attack on the opponent QoP to draw the creepwave towards you, and get some easy last hits in. Eventually the creepwave will push towards her uphill, at this point you won't really be able to farm, so you just stay in XP range, and if the rune is about to spawn, go for it to deny the rune from her. If she goes for the rune aswell, chances are you won't get it, so just stay in lane and farm the creeps and pull back after getting in some last hits.

TA/WR/Storm/Shadow shaman etc. There are so many heroes that can easily take her on in mid, as long as you zone her properly and keep control of the creepwave.

That said, whenever i play QoP i almost never lose mid lane with her, then again i usually never lose mid ^^

Edit; rofl

Blue background es best background.

This guy is so good

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Orange
TongFu

goodbye Darer-mTw(or coL replacing either of them), aL-M5, just hope crapsports won't participate as a back-up team

My predictions

From Group A, Zenith/LGD/EG/CLG will go to winners bracket

Zenith/LGD/CLG for sure, these teams have been playing extremely well recently. AL/M5 are unreliable, EG however have been doing good lately so i believe they will advance. DK have such a strong team but they are inconsistent so i'm not sure about them.

From Group B, Navi, iG, mTw, Col will go to winners bracket.

Although Group B is a crazy group, so many good teams so it's hard to call, but i doubt TongFu or Darer will come out on top. Orange are playing decent, and i haven't really heard or watched anything from EHOME. Col are pretty predictable in their picks, but somehow they execute it really well anyway. Navi are Navi, even if they have been having trouble at their bootcamp they will most likely pull through, mTw should be really confident aswell.

Really excited for the strats Navi and Zenith are going to do ^^

Na`Vi, EHOME, Zenith, M5. Top4.
Ez for Na`Vi anyway.

TECHIES and SKYWRATH concept art

TECHIES




SKYWRATH MAGE

LMFAO BAMBOE


Singsing


Bamboe

Sing at IT2, 1437 and KuroKy. Game too hard, quit doto.



Bamboe dual pistols. Yeah buddy, keep feeding.

Possible hero release order (5:37)

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQzMDcxODQ0.html

Slark Model



Meepo Confirmed

TI starts today with WE vs mouz in Bo5 to replace MUFC!

It is watchable via DotaTV!

OMFG!!

Tshemmp wrote:

TI starts today with WE vs mouz in Bo5 to replace MUFC!

It is watchable via DotaTV!

OMFG!!

2 hours from now! Waiting excitedly ...

mouz are in! They took WE 3-0.

Got my coL penant ready to go

4 more days til Seattle omfggg yesss

MUFC > crapsports

MUFC Story. I guess the smoking thing was a retarded rumor?

MUFC: "For the rumors out there, we would like to explain to all who are commenting and asking about it.
Firstly, about the visa issue. The team were unable to transit to Vancouver because they do not have a transit visa. The starting point of this issue was because we encountered some technical problem for our previous tickets. Thus we purchased new tickets with new routes for all of them. However, our team has been arranged to depart to Seattle via New York. The problem has fixed.
Second issue, rumors about Sharky. He lost his passport in Hong Kong and that's why he is going to be late for the tournament. Our management team is working with valve to do our best to send him to Seattle. However, the situation is still unforeseen.
We will update on Facebook about how the situation is progressing. Sorry for the troubles and we hope that the rumors could be ended."
"We are not allowed to use stand-in to play for the group stage matches/entire tournament. Sharky will not be available to make it until Monday or Tuesday. There is no alternative for us to play besides getting a stand-in. We would like to apologize to all of our sponsors, fans and friends that support is all the time.
We are very down. Sorry."
Sharky: "I would like to say sorry to my teammates, sponsors and also my fans who are always supporting me.
Because of my careless causes my teammates have to give up the opportunity to compete with the international teams on LAN. And the trainings and efforts that we had putted in are wasted. As a captain, I feel really regret and guilty to all of them but I really hope that they can forgive me and stand with me always.
I saw a lot of comments, from the fans that care about my situation. I am currently in Hong Kong and waiting for everything to be settled on Monday. Thanks for your caring.
I am really sorry for what was happened. I know I am responsible for it, all my fans, teammates and sponsors that worked for me all the time when the issue has happened.
Thanks for everything.
Sincerely,
Raymond "Sharky" Wong
Captain of MUFC DotA"
source: https://www.facebook.com/MUFCdota

OmNii wrote:

Na`Vi, EHOME, Zenith, M5. Top4.
Ez for Na`Vi anyway.

i think zenith will probably be the only one you named in top 4

NaVi just got raped by iG btw, game was depressing lol.

I'd say top 3 might just be iG, Zenith, DK

All my monies on Mouz

Shocking first day lol, chinese domination. The only non-chinese team that did well was CLG, and sure as hell they did extremely well (woo sweden).

Props to EHOME for pulling off one of my favorite strats, the wisp+tiny combo.

Zenith.... oh god that was just terrible.


Ah well, this was day 1, today the teams will be facing who they didn't face yesterday, lets see if Zenith can make a nice comeback, and lets see if CLG can beat the chinese teams and keep a 100% win ratio ^^

You might wanna spoiler the results.
Mouse really let down yesterday

iG vs LGD grand final, calling it early SUP

WTS Mouse pennant

damn, fight for group B's winners bracket gon be tight

lol @ CLG and Zenith swapping win rates on day 2

orange

coL #1 USA

EG vs CLG is going to be fun tonight

CLG was 6-0 last time i checked, now 6-8. wtf?

Winner's Bracket

http://www.joindota.com/en/coverages/2395-the-international-2012#14_groupsgrid

The interesting thing is that the first position in each group gets to choose who to play in the playoffs between the tied 3rd/4th positions of the other group (EG tied with Zenith in A, Na`Vi with Orange in B)

anyone has spare keys? my friend suddenly wanted one xD

Mourn for Orange
Could have been the first team to take a game off LGD, but those bkbs..