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Miya
Fixed most of them. Thank you for the mod guys :D
wmfchris
From my queue----

[General]
- Don't know if it's my illusion or not, I think that [Yasora] 's BG quality is not really good with some clear colour grids and poorly treated boundaries. If possible, change it into another BG image? Accel world related pictures are largely available on the web.
- I'll also suggest to compress the two BG with ~0.5MB a bit :3
- 500 audio lead-in would be probably nice.

[S.S]
00:11:781 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing of (3) looks odd and a bit misleading, just for reference: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/314267
00:14:555 - some suggestions here: The music is transisting to a softer pace and here the drum sound has been fading out. You can use S (90/100%) here instead of N.
00:16:404 (5) - any alternative choice to place the sliders? Maybe you can make (2) curving more or positioning lower so that (5) can curve around (3,4) symmetricially.
00:19:486 - Feel like a note would work well here as you didn't place 1/1 breaks nearby.
00:29:555 (1) - Just a bit suggestion: you can tweek (1) so that (1,3,4) are in eq. spacing apparently. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/314288
00:50:925 (1,2) - their end differs by more than 1 pixels so I think you can stack them well.
01:04:075 (1,2) - ^
some copy&paste stuff in kiai?

[Yasora]
00:32:842 (1) - you can make it symmetrical:
400,232,32842,6,0,B|352:204|348:152|356:100|424:80,1,180,2|8
00:35:411 - Add a note here?
00:43:527 (5,6,2) - [Nazi] left 1 grid lv4 makes stuffs in more accurate spacing&symmetrical.
00:58:733 (5) - NC here instead of the next note since this is the opening of sentence and notify the 0.0x 1 beat spacing.
01:09:007 (1) - Just a little thought here - using 0.5x / 0.75x slider to make a sudden slowing down effect?

I like the way you balance between the deafult N clap and N:C2 clap. :3

[Hard]
00:14:555 - same as [SS] I would suggest a softer hitsound for this 1/2 beat interval.
01:13:527 (3) - [Nazi] left 1 grid lv4 to make it symmetrical

[Normal]
00:39:829 (1) - For normal I think this slider is a bit short even though there's no space to extend it. (A 4-beat ones is the minimum length imo like the next spinner)

[Easy]
01:07:363 - Same as normal, this spinner would be possibly too short.
01:13:527 (2) - A clap here responding to (1) sounds nice.

[Taiko]
00:01:610 - This one starts at a higher tone so k is preferred. Corresponding to 00:04:897 - I think K sounds better.
00:20:514 - the triplet here sounds mistimed as the drum combo in the music starts after this one. Try d kkdkd
00:36:130 - add finish
00:48:048 - ddkkd (lol in combo colour it is ddk but in fact it is dkd
01:08:596 - the tone is going up so kkddk / ddkdk / ddkkk sound nice.
01:14:349 - ends with d corresponding to the bass, start the spinner 1/2 after the stream because the fading out already started.

The biggest problem is that you have to place your finishes with a unique logic, i.e. if you place finish on a similar sentence, place finish in similar sentences whenever possible.

Some hitsounds are nicely placed and I guess a bit more working is needed on the two insanes, good luck :3
Topic Starter
Miya
Thank you for the mod wmf. :)
All fixed in my diff, but easy. >.<
Yasora
thanks ugyu /w\
here, new background. just replace it

Download: KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora].osu
Kawayi Rika
Hi ~ Miya ~ :)

Mod time for my Queue ~



Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions

[Yasora]


  1. 00:45:171 - Remove clap.
  2. 01:14:349 (1) - Maybe 1 note(finish) + spinner much better here,like this.

[S.S]


  1. 00:12:397 (3,4,5) - Sound wrong rhythm here,try like this.
  2. 00:53:288 (6) - This note should move to 00:53:390,much better rhythm.

[Hard]


  1. 00:12:397 (3,4,5) - Same as S.S diff.
  2. 01:06:541 (3) - Extend to here 01:06:746.

That's all ~ Amazing song and mapset ~ take you star ~

Good luck with rank ~
Topic Starter
Miya
Thanks Rika, umm. I don't think that rythim is weird because i follow the drum sound at the back,
an about 01:06:541 (3)- i have already extended to that time >.<

Waiting for Star and Yasora response :D
Yasora
Star Stream
those
From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
  1. There are two background files for Taiko in the folder. Keep only the correct one and full submit.
  2. Since you're doing it anyway, I'd throw in more inherited points to make the volume decrease at the end more gradual.
[Easy]
  1. Given that this has almost the same number of circles as sliders, I'd drop OD down to 1.
[Normal]
  1. 00:33:253 (3) - Perhaps flip this vertically? We just went up with (2), don't wanna have to start with going up again with (3).
  2. 01:02:431 (7) - NC here instead of 01:02:842 (1) -
[Hard]
  1. 00:32:431 (3) - Blanket looked off when I was playing, and when I checked, it actually was. Move the anchor to x:404 y:169.
  2. 01:05:719 (5) - NC here instead of 01:05:925 (1) -
[Yasora]
  1. Diff name doesn't say very much about the overall diff. "Yasora's Insane" seems more fitting.
  2. Plays smoothly. My only concern is the small spacing between 00:42:089 (5,1) - despite the sv change. I still think spacing should match 00:41:678 (4,5) - .
[S.S]
  1. Again, diff name doesn't say very much about the overall diff.
  2. 00:16:404 (5) - This slider doesn't look very nice, and the length serves no purpose, and because it's this length, you've neglected a possible object at 00:17:637 - .
  3. 00:19:692 (5) - This slider doesn't look very nice either, but what's worse is that this is just art, and the anchors are not made to be mapped to anything.
  4. 00:27:397 (6,7) - Transition in the stream looks untidy.
  5. 00:38:699 (4,5,6,1) - Spacing makes it hard to hear rhythm.
  6. 00:47:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This was bad in Dreadnought, and this is bad here.
  7. 00:49:281 (1,2) - The way (2) has to jerk back before going forward is a bit unappealing. Apply whatever fix to this you see fit - maybe just a simple move to the left a few units
  8. 00:55:856 (1) - And you've just copy and pasted this next Kiai section. The fact that it's a pitch higher than the last is enough reason that it should be more intense. Consider remapping it.
[Sekai's Taiko-Fly]
  1. What's "-Fly" doing in the diff name?
  2. Use slider velocity 1.40
  3. 00:11:473 (2,3,4,1,2,1,1,2,3) - Use the 3/4 rhythm with mostly finishes instead; the way you have it mapped right now seems like you completely disregarded the awesome bass.
  4. 00:13:938 (1,1,1) - Make this a 1/4 kdddkdddd.
  5. 00:21:952 - k
  6. 00:22:363 - k
  7. 00:22:979 (1) - Make D
  8. 00:23:185 - k
  9. 00:23:596 - k
  10. 00:23:699 - k
  11. 00:23:801 (1) - Make d
  12. 00:24:418 - d
  13. 00:24:623 (1,1,2,1,1) - Again, use the 3/4 rhythm to map it to the bass.
  14. 00:27:089 (1,1,1,2,1) - Fill this in with 1/4. I'd just use ddkdddk.
  15. 00:31:199 (2,3) - Pretty empty...
  16. 00:43:733 - You shouldn't have breaks like this, especially in the Kiai section.
  17. 01:14:760 (1) - End the slider the same time as the other diffs.
Good luck :3
Topic Starter
Miya
Fixed everything in normal and hard, but not in easy :D
Thank you for the mod~

Oh yes, maybe you have the older version, i have deleted the double taiko bg.
Yasora
I think you are true about the name for my diff.
here and thanks

Download: KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Insane].osu
BeatofIke
Your map is good. I couldn't find any suggestions on your map. Sorry! :(

STAR~
Topic Starter
Miya
thank you for your star BeatofIke :D
Fenya
Hi~

Miya wrote:

Fenyo, i want standard mod :3 (You can ignore 1 diff if you want)
Easy:
Spacing error... Your distance spacing is x1,1... If you want the spacing is more limited, you should change it to x0,9 or x1,0

Normal:
00:18:048 (1,2,3) - (Personal opinion) I think it can be very separately for a normal.

Hard:
Good diff o.o

Insane:
00:35:103 (2,3,4,5) - Move (4) to x:488 y:80 and move (5) to x:460 y:120 http://puu.sh/vgvu
00:40:959 (8,1) - 1 grid right


Well, I'm not good at this, I did everything I could >_<
Sorry for my bad English, I hope you serve something.
Good map, good luck~ :)
Topic Starter
Miya
Orz, it's just a setting, i use spacing 1.0x in my easy diff. Maybe it's accidentaly changed when i editing my beatmap and i don't make any change. And, i don't understand what you mean separately in normal diff.

Well, thank you for moding~
DJPop
Why didn't you submit Taiko diff and ranked together? :/


~Easy~
- Shouldn't have stacks in easy diff, notes can be covered by hitburst and hard for newbie players to read
- Change sample S:C2 to S
00:39:418 (1) - silence its hitsound
00:57:911 (3) - remove clap at the end
01:04:486 (3) - ^
01:13:527 (2) - add finish

~Normal~
- Change sample S:C2 to S
00:39:418 (1) - silence its hitsound
01:12:705 (3) - add finish at the end

~Hard~
- Change sample S:C2 to S
00:11:473 (4) - NC
00:11:781 (1) - no NC
00:12:705 (4) - NC
00:13:116 (1) - no NC
00:41:267 (1,2) - use soft hitsound
00:42:294 - add timing and set volume to 30% or 40%
01:13:527 (3) - add finish
01:10:856 (1) - add clap
01:11:473 (3,4) - move 1/4 left and add clap
01:13:116 (1,2) - ^
01:13:527 (3) - add finish
01:13:938 (4) - use 1/8 snap and fade in volume (soft → loud) , use soft hitsound, end with normal hitsound

~Yasora's Insane~
- I think the maximum volume should be 60%, like other diffs
00:07:363 (4) - end on left blue tick (00:07:671) and add note on white tick
00:11:678 (2) - use 1/4 slider
01:05:925 (2) - remove clap
01:06:027 (3) - add clap at start
01:09:623 (2,3) - remove clap
01:10:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try pattern below, sounds better to me (you can change into circle/slider as you wish)
claps on 01:10:856 - , 01:11:062 - , 01:11:370 - , 01:11:575 - , 01:11:883 - , apply to 2nd pattern too, except (6)

01:13:527 (6) - remove clap
01:13:938 (1) - use 1/8 snap and fade in volume (soft → loud)
01:14:349 (2) - use normal hitsound

~S.S~
00:16:404 (5) - looks weird... try making U slider or curved-out slider (current is curved-in)
00:41:062 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - use soft hitsound
Topic Starter
Miya

DJPop wrote:

Why didn't you submit Taiko diff and ranked together? :/ Because Sekai want to delete her diff, but include it on creator words


~Easy~
- Shouldn't have stacks in easy diff, notes can be covered by hitburst and hard for newbie players to read ok
- Change sample S:C2 to S ok
00:39:418 (1) - silence its hitsound I feel it doesn't necesary, since the normal sounds really fit with the rythim on the back
00:57:911 (3) - remove clap at the end not consistant with previous clap
01:04:486 (3) - ^ ^
01:13:527 (2) - add finish no cymbal sound here, so it doesn't fit with finish sound >.<

~Normal~
- Change sample S:C2 to S ok
00:39:418 (1) - silence its hitsound no
01:12:705 (3) - add finish at the end no

~Hard~
- Change sample S:C2 to S ok
00:11:473 (4) - NC
00:11:781 (1) - no NC
00:12:705 (4) - NC
00:13:116 (1) - no NC ^all fixed
00:41:267 (1,2) - use soft hitsound ok
00:42:294 - add timing and set volume to 30% or 40% ok, but set to 50% because it's too low imo
01:13:527 (3) - add finish no
01:10:856 (1) - add clap ok
01:11:473 (3,4) - move 1/4 left and add clap sounds weird to me, no
01:13:116 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:13:527 (3) - add finish you repeat the same suggestion >.<
01:13:938 (4) - use 1/8 snap and fade in volume (soft → loud) , use soft hitsound, end with normal hitsound ok

~S.S~ Since Star Stream is busy, i will take care his diff
00:16:404 (5) - looks weird... try making U slider or curved-out slider (current is curved-in) I don't think it's weird for both of us. Sorry, no change here
00:41:062 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - use soft hitsound ok
thank you DJPop :3
Yasora
DJPop
~Hard~
01:11:473 (3,4) - no claps is fine, but should be moved 1/4 left to sync with drums
01:13:116 (1,2) - ^

~Yasora's Insane~
01:12:294 (1) - add clap at the end to make sound same as 01:10:651 (1) -
Yasora
DJPop
Bubble
Topic Starter
Miya
....
>.<
thank you very much <3
Kurai
Did some little changes in Normal and in tags.

Ranked ~ !
Melophobia
congratz~ :D
Yasora
pro ~
Kanari
Congrats ~
GladiOol
00:35:103 (2,3,4,5,6) - lol
regenz
haha to quick GZ
YTYuyu
Oh my that was quick D:. congratz on the rank Miya-chan :3
Topic Starter
Miya
Hhe, thank you for your support all :)
S o r d a
gratz ranked!
I was late T_T
Akemi_Homura
gratz~ Miya~ =3=
those
Cool, Star Stream completely ignored my mods and turned this mapset into a bad one! Yay!

Congratulations.
Topic Starter
Miya
Urr, it's your opinion that star stream diff is bad. But i don't think his diff is bad. :(
Well, no more convo of this topic again. PM star stream if you have any problem with him.
Kuria

those wrote:

Cool, Star Stream completely ignored my mods and turned this mapset into a bad one! Yay!

Congratulations.
i think it's not bad, just "not what i want/expect too see on this kind of diff from this kind song"

congrats anyway^^
Star Stream
You know what those? The reason i copy/paste the huge amount of notes is i saw it from osuplayer111's maps
and it's great for the parts wich have similar melody
don't force mappers and don't think your opinion is right
anyway, congratz Miya and thx for rank my first S.S diff as guest diff :3
AIR315
Congratz~
Hiryuu_old
Congrats >w< /
those

Star Stream wrote:

You know what those? The reason i copy/paste the huge amount of notes is i saw it from osuplayer111's maps
and it's great for the parts wich have similar melody
Show me an osuplayer111 map that has an entire poorly mapped chorus copy and pasted.

Star Stream wrote:

don't force mappers and don't think your opinion is right
I don't force mappers, and I wouldn't be modding if I didn't think I could improve your map. Stop being so stubborn. Otherwise you'll never make a good map.
Mercurial
Don't turn this map thread into a war map thread.

I know a lot of map/mappers who copy and paste a mount of notes in the entire mapset.
Topic Starter
Miya
I said, no more convo of this topic again :|
iMercurial is right, don't turn this map thread into flame thread :(

for those, why not just pm Star Stream if you have any grudge on him? This is better way to solve problem and doesn't disturb people.
And thank you for everyone that support me :D
those
I don't have a grudge on him LOL.
And this is all map related, so it belongs here and nowhere else.
Yasora
what the... you all = =;;
Mythol
good song/mapset
grats!~
Topic Starter
Miya
Thank you Mythol.~

Yay, my first 'most-played' mapset. Happy to see it :D
suzutsukikanade
oh is most-played grats Miya :D
miss_master_old
Beautyful~
Meowcenaries
congrats
Colin Hou
I'm sorry for being late to come here (although I said it may happen in my queue

feel free to link me another map with forum PM
HakuNoKaemi
→unfinished→

It's the real title and it's easy to write.
Alt+26 is →
Topic Starter
Miya
i know, but i cant use that character in title screen. besides i dont know how to use that asci code.
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