alot of these offsets are really poorly done.. i'm quite disappointed, to be honest. nothing to cause a fuss over, but you'd think that the first thing a person would want to do when mapping a >50m set is to ensure they've got solid timing before they begin
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The timing was checked by a lot of people, and I spent almost days on it, there's a hard work beyond that. Your comment just make me disappointed.
Ask to CNF, Faust, bossandy, l1106188, TicClick, and half of #modhelp.
Ask to CNF, Faust, bossandy, l1106188, TicClick, and half of #modhelp.
i apologise for assuming, then, but apparently a lot of people got it wrong. a good chunk of these offsets are upwards of 20ms off in either direction.
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it's okay, but I just wanted you to know that every single thing was calculated carefully and we though 100 times before making a change.
I'm checking the timing with some bats/players now. You would help if you nominated the wrong offsets now.
I'm checking the timing with some bats/players now. You would help if you nominated the wrong offsets now.
So you actually got this approved, congratulations Armin!. Oh, gonna take a look at the timing to see what's going on
So much Diffs. ;w;
But best wishes to your Map that it got approved.
But best wishes to your Map that it got approved.
Sapevo che questo giorno sarebbe arrivato \:D/
Solo un anno LOLArmin wrote:
Hi guys, there's another WT project. I hope that this one will end soon.
GLORIOUS
Gratz Armin
Gratz Armin
Topic Starter
Thank you, guys 
OH MY GOD FINALLY
A SONG FINALLY BEAT PARA PARA MAX YEAHBlue Dragon wrote:
OH MY GOD FINALLY
brb approving mine anyway
New High score record? 1,455,004,230 + spinner bonuses
inb4 unrank again and redownload
HELL YES.
osu! needs so much stuff like this. so... much... congratz guys, you all did a wonderful job.
osu! needs so much stuff like this. so... much... congratz guys, you all did a wonderful job.
Congratz ! this is some hard work! Good job~
\o/ gratz
gratz~ XD
I still waited for this! Great job and congratulation, Mr. Armin-sama! :3
omg grats!
50 MINS!
Excellent!
Excellent!
Hate to do this, but this needs to be unapproved. There's been too many complaints of timing issues and other problems. I understand that a lot of time and work was put into this, but there should have been more mods to make sure that there were no problems. This is a VERY long and intricate map, and should have been modded so hard that people were sick of looking at it! :p
I will look at the timing tomorrow morning, and then do a full mod afterward. I already know for a fact that some sections are 15-20ms off, one section has the wrong downbeat, and one section is incorrectly using 1/3 where the bpm should be a different value.
Also, here's a copypaste of some issues that another BAT brought up in chat while playing:
"timing is differently wrong on each song so far"
"with the video being black and white before, having the outer edge of the hitcircles black makes it impossible to see the approach circle hit the outer edge"
"and the beginning of the current song has hitbursts overlapping slidertrails"
I will look at the timing tomorrow morning, and then do a full mod afterward. I already know for a fact that some sections are 15-20ms off, one section has the wrong downbeat, and one section is incorrectly using 1/3 where the bpm should be a different value.
Also, here's a copypaste of some issues that another BAT brought up in chat while playing:
"timing is differently wrong on each song so far"
"with the video being black and white before, having the outer edge of the hitcircles black makes it impossible to see the approach circle hit the outer edge"
"and the beginning of the current song has hitbursts overlapping slidertrails"
/me sighs
Good luck.
Good luck.
Beatmap does not exist? :O
This is a mistake and will be resolved as soon as possible. The BAT apologies for any inconvenience caused, please be patient.Philippines wrote:
Beatmap does not exist? :O
It wasn't a mistake. I nuked it to show how much i disagree with this kind of map format.
(okay it was just a mistake)
(okay it was just a mistake)
Topic Starter
"I will go to sleep now, I hope to see many records tomorrow!"
nuff' said.
Call me for the new timing values.
nuff' said.
Call me for the new timing values.
sad
Good luck on it again ;_;
That's what I found as now:
the only wrong timing is Fire And Ice as now, 3/5 ms doesn't make the gameplay suffer. Offsets are checked through slowing the song and ears.
- Why Not Me
Offset: 2406 (-5), 15809(-5)
BPM: 143,25(Correct)
Notes: Violin's pretty hard to time, since you should find the peak. So I'm unsure if like this is more correct, you can use -2/3 though (Gaussian distribution of errors, the average value is the more probable) - Shot In The Dark
Offset: 39101(Correct)
BPM: 106,00(Correct)
Notes: the BAT who said "timing is differently wrong on each song so far"is wrong so far. - In the Middle of the Night
Offset: 337098(-7)
BPM: 200,00(Correct)
Notes: Alternative: -3/4 - Faster
Offset: 648736(Correct)
BPM: 120,00(Correct)
Notes: the BAT who said "timing is differently wrong on each song so far"is wrong so far.(x2) - Fire And Ice
Offset: I think there are more offsets
BPM: I think the BPM vary, especially at the start
Notes: Multi-Section Multi-BPM timing is though to find, though I can try to see if it's really simplier than it seems - Iron
Offset: 1150312(-9)
BPM: 132,000(Correct)
Notes: Alternative: -4/5 - Where Is The Edge
Offset: 1494676(-3)
BPM: 154,000(Correct)
Notes: Alternative: -1/2
the only wrong timing is Fire And Ice as now, 3/5 ms doesn't make the gameplay suffer. Offsets are checked through slowing the song and ears.
I will try to check the timing when I have time later.
no no no definitely not.
- Why Not Me
Offset: 2406 (-5), 15809(-5)
BPM: 143,25(Correct)
Notes: Violin's pretty hard to time, since you should find the peak. So I'm unsure if like this is more correct, you can use -2/3 though (Gaussian distribution of errors, the average value is the more probable)- Shot In The Dark
Offset: 39101(Correct)
BPM: 106,00(Correct)
Why Not Me:
-5ms on the first section
+15ms on the second section
Shot in the Dark:
-18ms (39083)
Middle of the Night:
-8ms (337095)
Faster:
fine (648736)
Fire and Ice:
skipping for now
Iron:
-8ms (1150313)
This should be 1/3 despite what derekku says.
Where is the Edge:
fine (1494679)
Sinead:
fine (1730551)
Lost:
-8ms (1994397)
Murder:
fine (2309000)
Demon's Fate:
fine (2565180)
Stairway:
-10ms (2896210)
move the downbeat back one white tick
Topic Starter
Haku and Lybydose, thanks a lot for the values, I'm testing them.
also, I'd like to know what Derekku thinks of them, before uploading any change.
Iron MUST be mapped in 1/3.
also, I'd like to know what Derekku thinks of them, before uploading any change.
Iron MUST be mapped in 1/3.