Saying that someone is scum based on inactivity is WIFOM thinking. In every game I've been in so far, the inactive people have been innocent. I don't think someone with an important role like mafia/aux would be inactive. But who knows, it could be scum this time :<

Keeping my vote as is for now, though.

Wow derekku

Derekku Chan wrote:

Saying that someone is scum based on inactivity is WIFOM thinking. In every game I've been in so far, the inactive people have been innocent. I don't think someone with an important role like mafia/aux would be inactive. But who knows, it could be scum this time :<

Keeping my vote as is for now, though.

In this post you say that people who are inactive are usually innocent humans, but you don't seem to care if we vote them or not, seen as in

Derekku Chan wrote:

But who knows, it could be scum this time :<

Also, you're really steadfast to tell everyone your vote for me still stands. Really, that's a very serious vote you have going there and I can't wait to see you say it's really gonna stay for a third/fourth time. Really, nothing scummy about that at all.
/sarcasm
Vote: Derekku Chan

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1) 3 edits. What the hell.
2)This

Derekku Chan wrote:

EDIT: Actually, it should've been implied by my most that I DO care if inactives are killed off. If they haven't posted, then we know nothing about them and thus shouldn't be lynched just for being inactive. We could by killing an important aux role.

contradicts this

Derekku Chan wrote:

But who knows, it could be scum this time :<

since you obviously try to keep the votes here, and have a possible townie lynched off
inb4WIFOM

also, this

Derekku Chan wrote:

I was just stating that I'm not going to change my vote to someone else.

Derekku Chan wrote:

Keeping my vote as is for now, though.

Derekku Chan wrote:

My vote for Wojjan still stands. :S

makes 3 times. we KNOW you won't change your vote by not changing your vote. Why so dedicated to making us know for sure?

Wojjan wrote:

1) 3 edits. What the hell.

I have a habit of thinking of more things after hitting the post button XP

Wojjan wrote:

2)This

Derekku Chan wrote:

EDIT: Actually, it should've been implied by my most that I DO care if inactives are killed off. If they haven't posted, then we know nothing about them and thus shouldn't be lynched just for being inactive. We could by killing an important aux role.

contradicts this

Derekku Chan wrote:

But who knows, it could be scum this time :<

since you obviously try to keep the votes here, and have a possible townie lynched off
inb4WIFOM

Uh, no it doesn't. Let me elaborate since you're obviously not understanding me. I said that we SHOULDN'T lynch someone JUST for being inactive. It SEEMS like the inactives are USUALLY innocent, but we don't know for sure. Do you get what I'm saying now?

Wojjan wrote:

also, this

Derekku Chan wrote:

I was just stating that I'm not going to change my vote to someone else.

Derekku Chan wrote:

Keeping my vote as is for now, though.

Derekku Chan wrote:

My vote for Wojjan still stands. :S

makes 3 times. we KNOW you won't change your vote by not changing your vote. Why so dedicated to making us know for sure?

The third one you pointed out was my vote for the day. The second one in your list is what I elaborated on in your first list item. I'm not "reinforcing" my vote, I'm just elaborating on it.

Seriously, stop twisting my words around using these little word arguments. They're not helping your case and it's just making you look even more scummy

Derekku Chan wrote:

I have a habit of thinking of more things after hitting the post button XP

there's this handy thing called preview

Uh, no it doesn't. Let me elaborate since you're obviously not understanding me. I said that we SHOULDN'T lynch someone JUST for being inactive. It SEEMS like the inactives are USUALLY innocent, but we don't know for sure. Do you get what I'm saying now?

then why are you bringing it up in the first place? Simply to get us distracted from the case, as Bobby would put it.

I'm not "reinforcing" my vote, I'm just elaborating on it.

you said the exact same 3 times. You vote for me. How is that elaborated?

Seriously, stop twisting my words around using these little word arguments. They're not helping your case and it's just making you look even more scummy :P

Yes, since pointing out the holes in your posts is obviously scummy and should be punished with my very life.
Bad me, stop looking for scum in posts.

Wojjan wrote:

/sarcasm

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DeathxShinigami wrote:

Hm, who to vote for...to many people being inactive hurts this game from moving on so...

Screw you, I have work.

Starrodkirby86 (day 2) wrote:

And I'm still yet to go make a vote. I have done some neglectfulness around, but I'll try and update myself fully into this world.

... and you haven't made a post since.

Lurking is a scumtell because by doing so you're avoiding talking (posting). And by doing that, people can't gather any information or evidence about said people, which means it's virtually impossible to get them lynched for anything except for lurking.

If you guys decide lurking is a null tell, then good luck finding scum. All they would have to do is just not post and you'll never lynch them.

Echo wrote:

Lurking is a scumtell because by doing so you're avoiding talking (posting). And by doing that, people can't gather any information or evidence about said people, which means it's virtually impossible to get them lynched for anything except for lurking.

Iono - I don't think it is a definite scumtell since sometimes RL gets in the way and you don't want to make a 1 min post that makes no sense. It's slightly easier to just read and post a reply sometime when free time comes around.

But I feel that DeathxShinigami is bandwagoning on JInxyjem's post.

Vote DeathxShinigami
(at least for now.)

neo@lex wrote:

Screw you, I have work.

Unless its importance is higher than HIGH, I don't see why you only have time to post 4 times in this thread.

ooh yes.

votecount please?

And also how many hours until deadline?

thepianist wrote:

But I feel that DeathxShinigami is bandwagoning on JInxyjem's post.

Vote DeathxShinigami
(at least for now.)

Bandwagoning isn't really a way to tell scum in bigger Mafia games, since there exist roles as Masons, who know certain people which are human. Similar roles can be Siblings and Cults. There might be other, but those are the ones I can name from the top of my head.

Mm, Echo, it's more of that I'm rather lurking or looking at the thread trying to think of who to vote...but my indecisive self seems to get the best of me, resulting not.

I made a decision, and I kind of forgive any offense in it...

Vote: Wojjan

(still <3 you)

Wojjan wrote:

Bandwagoning isn't really a way to tell scum in bigger Mafia games, since there exist roles as Masons, who know certain people which are human. Similar roles can be Siblings and Cults.

This begs the question - are you a mason, sibling, or cult member/leader? I'm sure you one of the above.

If you're mason, then we can find out who we don't need to lynch.
If you're siblings with a mafia member (or you're mafia yourself) then it's not that huge a price to pay, since 1 for 1 is acceptable for town.
If you're a cult member (or the leader), then of course we don't want another third party to win

Wojjan - 3 (Derekku, 0_o, StarrodKirby)
neo@lex - 2 (JInxyjem, DeathxShinigami)
Derekku - 1 (Wojjan)
DxS - 1 (thepianist)

Deadline is thurday. If you want the time, please go check the day start, it's not many pages back. <.<

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Oh hey, I got deadlines messed up.

You're entirely right, deadline is indeed today.

Mmk, I gave you all a chance.

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*The day ended... just like that. Nobody seemed interested in a lynch. So, there was none.*

Day Three is now over, Night Three begins now.

Please send all night actions by this time tomorrow. (Please send them earlier if possible.)

*The day begins again, with the corpse of someone you all recognized around. 0_o, whom you all just now remembered was the Govenor, was dead.*

0_o - Govenor - Killed N3

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With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday at this time.

Retaining my vote for Wojjan.

inb4whiningfromhim

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Looks like the governor just got whacked~

I have some faint thoughts of who I should vote for, but I'd rather think it out thoroughly before making a rash decision. o3o

(And it's late here, yadda yadda)

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

I have some faint thoughts of who I should vote for, but I'd rather think it out thoroughly before making a rash decision.

Rather than just "thinking it out thoroughly", why not post your thoughts and both give and gather more information that way instead?

Also, it'd be nice if Wojjan can come in and post.

No reason for Wojjan to post. He's already done for.

Vote: thepianist

I can't even begin to fathom why thepianist is voting for himself.

I have an idea to why thepianist is voting himself, but it's close to impossible.

thepianist is probably a Sibling, and seeing we have not killed even ONE mafia (Sound famillar with the other games?), he decided to sacrifice himself to pin down his mafia sibling.

Wouldn't it be tempting to go vote for thepianist?

And I'm really basing some of this reasoning towards activity, particularly during the period when the killing happened and moments before (i.e. actions taken).

It doesn't leave me much choices left.

I'm having to vote for...Mmh...Randomizer, do your thing...

Vote JInxyjem

Sadly, I got that...Seriously.

I really wish that people would be ACTIVE -_-

HEY GUYS! LISTEN UP! IF YOU DON'T VOTE, THEN THE MAFIA GETS A FREE KILL AT NIGHT



Or maybe it's the mafia whom aren't voting in the first place (insert wifom here)

Hm... More thepianist stuff.
I don't think he is the cop sibling, as he would have given us names of people he checked.

1. Mafia sibling, sacrifice to kill the cop sibling. If killed: Bad
2. Mafia, playing WIFOM. If killed: Good.
3. Cop with wierd sainity. If killed: Neutral, more on Bad
4. A special townie, like Lucidity and Bagelbob. Sucidal to give us information collected over the days.* If killed: Neutral


*If this is the case, I think the special townie earns more info each day phase, that is why Bagel only had 1 information.

This is getting pretty retarded.
The way the roles are makes it extremely hard to actually identify who the Mafia are, whilst they just sit back and send in their kills under the cover of the suicidal roles.
Has anyone tried personally asking thepianist stuff related to his spontaneous self-accusation?

neo@lex wrote:

Has anyone tried personally asking thepianist stuff related to his spontaneous self-accusation?

Everything about this game should have been in this thread only, so all you have to do is read through the last 15 posts or so.

I'm still waiting for Wojjan to make a post.

The day should end now. I'm currently considering extending it for a bit. Until further notice, the day is not over yet.

Oh by the way, when did the Highest Votes Is Killed rule go? I thought the highest is automatically killed?

Please read rule #10.

Day blah blah Night blah blah tomorrow at this time.

Blah.

LadySuburu wrote:

Day blah blah Night blah blah tomorrow at this time.

Blah.

Taking after me eh?

strager wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Day blah blah Night blah blah tomorrow at this time.

Blah.

Taking after me eh?

This game is just Meh now.

>:

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I vote we continue.
It's the first time I've played mafia ;_;

I vote the game ends, 'cus I'm dead. =[

Game End...doubt nothing is going to happen anymore since we already lost all the key players.

I'd like to continue, but if people aren't going to post, then it's just a waste of time. Vote: Undecided

EDIT: Vote: End

Truly, it doesn't really matter to me, but i would vote to continue.

I vote we end since I really aren't interested in this anymore anyway, I'm that's why I'm not really posting.

Vote: End

We don't have much to continue with... Dead game is dead.

inb4thisisatricktoseewhoismafia

Vote: End

It's not like we really pay a lot of attention to it, and I can't get on the PC a lot since I've recently moved. Yes, I voted out of egoism. Sucks to not be me.

*Everyone seperates into different parts of the town. The mafia over to one side, cult another. The town stood on the far end. It seemed everyone was going to just live happilly...*

adam2046: Suprise! I'm not dead!

*BOOM*

*In that instant, all of the town was killed. afterwards, adam2046 lynched himself, winning the game AGAIN.*

*Then, The cult made a treaty with the mafia. If the mafia didn't kill the cult, the cult would run a cover operation for the mafia.*

The cult and Mafia win.

I'm gonna go ahead and call this a triumph.

I win.

And so does Wojjan.
And DxS. LS said he was cured by rust.

ClaimTruth: Cult Mason

I lost with the town as the Psychological Doctor.

Mafia Mason here

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Liiiiiiiike?

I'd rather not name anyone, but someone knew another's role when they shouldn't have had any way of knowing.

Echo wrote:

Mafia Mason here

I KNEW EET.

LS would never let masons get away with a full town team.

So who was the shadow?

rust45 wrote:

I lost with the town as the Psychological Doctor.

Psycho Doc = Serial Killer

So why were there no kills?

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The game stopped when I won, I consider that a double win.

List of roles will be when I have access to the file

Truth: Mafia Godfather and the Unknown Shadow's Master

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Unstickied.

soo... how about that role list?

0_o wrote:

soo... how about that role list?

Pretty big.

Derekku ***Mafia Godfather - Investigate one person a night. Appears Innocent to Investigations. Gains unknown shadow. (( Can act through a shadow figure who posts through me. I'll translate some of what's said differently, it is a different person. If the shadow person gets a vote, it secretly counts against the player instead. When the player has enough votes, the shadow will kill the player. (The player can still control the shadow. ))

Echo !!!Mafia Mason - Can talk to masons privately.

thepianist ###Mafia Sibling - Regular Mafia Goon. Siblings with the Govener. Doesn't win with mafia.

neo@lex ***Mafia Roleblocker - Roleblock one person a night.

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adam2046 ***Jester - Goal: To get lynched. Loses if NK'd or alive at end. Game does not end when Jester wins.

Wojjan ***Cult Leader - Converts one person to the cult a night. Dies if targeting a Mafia. Wins if town and mafia lose.

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JInxyjem !!!Townie Mason - Can talk to masons privately.

DeathXShinigami !!!Townie Mason - Can talk to masons privately.

StarrodKirby ***Thief - Can choose to steal from someone to roleblock and get a hint at their role. Cannot roleblock a kill from the mafia.

0_o ###Govener Sibling - Can stop one lynch. Siblings with the Mafia Goon. Doesn't win with town.

strager ***Ultra Paranoid Cop - Investigate one person a night. Also knows who targets him at night. Results are always "Guilty" and role name in PM is "Watchful Cop"

Lucidity *** Knowledgable Townie - Knows there's a jester.

BagelBob ***Vanilla Townie - Vanilla. Knowledgable Townie - Knows there's 4 mafia.

Ivalset ***Knowledgable Townie - Knows there's a cop or doctor.

rust45 Psychological Doctor - Can Protect one person a night. Also cures the following roles: (Ultra Paranoid Cop ---> Cop), (Thief --> Townie Mason),(Cult Member --> Previous Role)

Pasonia Ballot Tainter - Can have two votes appear on the Ballot, but only the first will count. Nobody else will know that the second vote doesn't count.


Numbers are the slot which recieved the role, and anythig else not explainable is just my randomness when designing.

LadySuburu wrote:

Numbers are the slot which recieved the role, and anythig else not explainable is just my randomness when designing.

Uh, no they're not >_>

Numbers aren't too useful because we don't have the corresponding players to go with them. ;P

@Derekku (ninja'd), Yes they are. We don't have the list, though.

Err they don't match the front page though.
Oh well.

thepianist wrote:

Err they don't match the front page though.
Oh well.

A little late on that one... :3

Bah, I'll figure it out. Disregard the numbers for now then.

Fix'd it by memory. The version on this computer was old. <.<

Should be mostly right now.

I have to be the worst governor ever, I win when everyone else except me and my mafia sibling dies

It's a shame really, I had this huge plan where I stop the lynch if thepianist is getting the boot, then claim I was given information that he was an Outsider (aka miller) since I was the governor and I would know about that sort of thing..

oh well

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