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Hika
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Gen III will always be my favourite because Steven Stone was in it. Of course that's me not knowing how Emerald was like. It's been rumored that there will be something like Gray or something related to that? Of course it's following the pattern like R/S -> or R/B -> or D/P -> Pt. It's believable.

I hope those Gen III remakes are soon though but I doubt Masuda will want to do anything with those until Gen VI.
Bobo_old
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Dear God I so wanted a Gen III remake.
Pokémon Ruby was my first Pokémon game :/
Jinxy
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Bobo wrote:

Dear God I so wanted a Gen III remake.
Pokémon Ruby was my first Pokémon game :/
Same. I doubt they'd remake since I think they remade I and II only because of how many large changes were made and how you can't transfer pokemon from II to III. There's no such problem now, so I don't think a remake is coming any time soon.
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//dies
Stefan
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Anyway, why are you need a Remake to the 3rd Gen?
Makes no sense and Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald are new enough.
Azure_Kite
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Because Braille and I like the landscape of Hoenn more than I do Kanto, Sinnoh and Unova. Johto's pretty up there in terms of cool landscapes.

Why? No idea. It just is.
Hika
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TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

Anyway, why are you need a Remake to the 3rd Gen?
Makes no sense and Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald are new enough.
If they SERIOUSLY remade R/B/Y 2 damn times, why would they not remake R/S/E?
I mean sure, it's really nice the way it is but I think it deserves a remake. It's not fair to leave it all hanging alone. /cry

Relating to the actual topic, I think that the Unova Link feature is pretty interesting...
Jinxy
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Wait, 2 times?
Hika
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If you could count SS/HG (even though it's mainly based on Johto). I mean, I'd count it as a remake of Kanto... It kinda is right?
Jinxy
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No, remaking a game means having the same story to me. HGSS remade GS's version of Kanto, not RBY.
Drakari_old
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JInxyjem wrote:

Bobo wrote:

Dear God I so wanted a Gen III remake.
Pokémon Ruby was my first Pokémon game :/
Same. I doubt they'd remake since I think they remade I and II only because of how many large changes were made and how you can't transfer pokemon from II to III. There's no such problem now, so I don't think a remake is coming any time soon.
It's true that it was almost, if not completely impossible to transfer from II to III (I could have sworn one of the Advance games had some special way to do it... but maybe not), but we're also coming up on the point where it's getting harder to transfer pokemon from Gen III to recent games, since the DSi and 3DS don't have GBA slots. Once a main series game comes to the 3DS there will be no way to get older generation pokemon to it without at least going through one of the DS versions, assuming that it's even possible to trade from a DS game to the 3DS at all. I predict that after Black and White 2 they will release either a new, independent main series game for 3DS with R/S after, or they'll make the R/S remakes the first full games for 3DS.
Hika
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The 3DS doesn't have a GBA slot? Why didn't I know this before? This just changes everything now...
Drakari_old
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Hika wrote:

The 3DS doesn't have a GBA slot? Why didn't I know this before? This just changes everything now...
You didn't know? They got rid of it in the DSi, which has been out long enough that some places don't even sell the Lite anymore let alone the original design.
Azure_Kite
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I still have my DSLite, but the d-pad is damaged on the top and right sides and the left trigger doesn't trigger properly. Small things. I'm surprised Black and White 2 already have a complete Item/Pokemon Name translation, as well as battle attacks stats.

Off-Topic, have we had a general Pokémon thread before?
Stefan
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Azure_Kite wrote:

Off-Topic, have we had a general Pokémon thread before?
I don't think so.

About the Idea for a Remake to R/S: I think, Game Freak won't see as neccessary to remake the 3rd Gen for the reason you still could get the Pokemons from R/S to Black/White 2, even this is a damn stupid way to get:

R/B/Y and G/S/C had the same "graphic" (You know what I want to say) so they're in this point similar. The second thing is that you can go at Kanto in the 2nd Gen, for the reason Jotho is beside of Kanto and have a connection (over the victory road). And there is a difference of three years between the first and second Gen. And they're also some parts what both Gens share (like Team Rocket, etc.)

All other versions got their own region and own graphic, etc. However, there is actually no way to transfer the pokemon from G/S/C to R/S. And well, even you have to use a DS or DSLite, there's a possible way to get your Pokemons from R/S/E to B/W2. I still have my old DS, so I personally have no problems with it. :D

IMO it would be cool to have a Remake of R/S, since I was excited about Heart Gold/Soul Sliver. It was a way better remake as Fire Red/Leaf Green. :p
Ekaru
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Azure_Kite wrote:

Off-Topic, have we had a general Pokémon thread before?
Let's fix that, then.

EDIT: Done.

EDIT2: Just beat 3rd gym. It's amazing how well a level 16 Growlithe can do against a level 24 Leavanny. >_>
Hika
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Drakari wrote:

You didn't know? They got rid of it in the DSi, which has been out long enough that some places don't even sell the Lite anymore let alone the original design.
Honestly, I didn't really care much about the DS because I'd always borrow one from my younger cousins. They'd barely play with theirs & they both have a DSi so I didn't do research on the 3DS much. Well, I already talked with my mother about which one to get, she's just telling me to get the 3DS as soon as we get the release date on BW2.

Also, Ekaru, is Riolu wild in the game or is it like some sort of gift Pokémon? I think it's pretty neat that they already have two of my favourite Pokémon early in the game.
Ekaru
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Hika wrote:

Also, Ekaru, is Riolu wild in the game or is it like some sort of gift Pokémon? I think it's pretty neat that they already have two of my favourite Pokémon early in the game.
It's in the wild before the first gym on the ranch.

You have to wait until level 15 for it to get Force Palm, but once it does it's <3.
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Hika wrote:

The 3DS doesn't have a GBA slot? Why didn't I know this before? This just changes everything now...
Fortunately the 3DS can download GBA/GB games off of the online Marketplace, so if they wanted, they could support all six of the current generations on a single system.
Ekaru
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awp wrote:

Hika wrote:

The 3DS doesn't have a GBA slot? Why didn't I know this before? This just changes everything now...
Fortunately the 3DS can download GBA/GB games off of the online Marketplace, so if they wanted, they could support all six of the current generations on a single system.
They're only doing GB games for now, though.

BTW, my Riolu just evolved at level 18, so you shouldn't have to wait that long to get your Lukeypoo.
Hika
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I should look up that Marketplace stuff right now before I worry too much.
Oh also, where's my Growlithe hiding also?! I want that especially. <3
Ekaru
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Hika wrote:

Oh also, where's my Growlithe hiding also?! I want that especially. <3
It's in the complex in the second city. While there's grass outside of the complex, that does not have your Growlithe. You gotta go down further into the actual complex to encounter Growlithe.

As for the GBA slot issue, do you want to transfer Pokemon or do you just want to play the games? If you want to just play the games then you can get a refurbished GBA SP from GameStop for $30. If you want to transfer Pokemon than you can get a refurbished original DS for $50 from the same place. The original DS's backlight is "AAAAAAAH", though, but regardless, if they don't come out with those GBA games on the eShop then you can just get one of those devices.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, if you don't need to transfer any Pokemon than GBA SP + 3DS is the way to go; that would allow you to play pretty much any Nintendo handheld cartridge out there.
Hika
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It's not a version exclusive is it? I've been wondering about that.

Also, I'd like to transfer Pokémon but I guess I'll just take the more complicating route by transferring to DSi then DSi to 3DS. I mean, it's not all that hard to do. All I worry about with the 3DS really is the size & the compatibility with the older games. Apparently, the graphics aren't all that good if I played some old Pokémon DS game or something. That's what I heard though.
Azure_Kite
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I play Pokemon platinum, heart gold and black without an issue?
Hika
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No graphic problems? Like anything different besides playing on a normal DS? I've only heard stuff about graphics.
Azure_Kite
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Well, the scaling effect is really negligible in pokemon. It's the 3d games that look truly horrid to me
Crimmi
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Does anybody here EV train here, cause i need to get some EV stats for my Lv. 56 Volcarona and basically i heard that it's Sp Attk stat could up by 3 and doubles up via EV training.
Ekaru
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Hika wrote:

No graphic problems? Like anything different besides playing on a normal DS? I've only heard stuff about graphics.
There's a slight blur due to upscaling. However, in Pokemon you won't really notice it after an hour or so.

Does anybody here EV train here, cause i need to get some EV stats for my Lv. 56 Volcarona and basically i heard that it's Sp Attk stat could up by 3 and doubles up via EV training.
First, you need to make sure you have enough free EVs to max out your Sp. Atk EVs. If you don't know what your Pokemon's EVs are, use Pokecheck to check. Then, do some basic math and see how many EV-reducing berries you need, if any. If you need some, get some and use them. You don't need perfect EVs here; you just want enough free EVs to let you reach 252 Sp. Atk EVs.

Then, you ideally want the PokeRUS and Power Lens. I could get you both of those, though you'd have to trade me something for the Power Lens 'cuz that requires about an hour or so of my time to get.

Once you have those, head off to the Celestial Tower and enjoy getting 10 Sp. Atk EVs a battle. Since you already know your EVs, you know how many battles you need to do to max out your sp. atk EVs.
mm201
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Azure_Kite wrote:

Well, the scaling effect is really negligible in pokemon. It's the 3d games that look truly horrid to me
I find it the exact opposite. Pokémon's sprite art style doesn't take well to non-integer scaling factors, whereas 3D stuff just gets a little fuzzier.
Also the 3DS screen has higher gamma (which isn't software corrected) causing DS games to look more washed out than they do on a Lite.
Fortunately I have a perfectly well maintained Lite which I prefer to do all my Pokémon stuff on.
(And I have a pair of SPs for the occasional 3rd-gen trading.)

If this thread is taking the general route, I might as well mention that I love collecting shinies and have a very large armada of unique shinies. I also have lots of duplicates from the Pokéradar I'd be glad to share around.
Hika
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Crimmi wrote:

Does anybody here EV train here, cause i need to get some EV stats for my Lv. 56 Volcarona and basically i heard that it's Sp Attk stat could up by 3 and doubles up via EV training.
If you haven't used Calcium on it, don't use it or else you'd be messing yourself up. Just go train in Celestial Tower & go fight the Elgyem that are on the third floor I think? Put a Power Lens on it just to be safe if you're going to try & raise Special Attack stat.

If you already used Calcium on it, it's kinda worthless to go EV training because you already maxed out those stats. You can have a total of 5XX EVs on one Pokémon. If you use Calcium, you only get 100 out of that 5XX so it's best to just breed Volcarona... if that's possible at least. I don't even recall what that Pokémon is.
Azure_Kite
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As for me, well. I'm aiiming for a Living Pokédex. I currently have one shiny ;~;

I've got 67 Kanto, 44 Johto, 44 Hoenn, 29 Sinnoh and 138 Unova Pokémon. 468 seen total. 322/649 so far. I'm going to just breed Johto and Sinnoh starters for seen pokémon.

EDIT: You can still get EVs after a stat boosting item has made it reach 100, iirc.
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Hika
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I think it's possible to get EVs afterward but I'm not too sure about it. I'll just go read about it now just to make sure though.
Ekaru
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Hika wrote:

If you haven't used Calcium on it, don't use it or else you'd be messing yourself up. Just go train in Celestial Tower & go fight the Elgyem that are on the third floor I think? Put a Power Lens on it just to be safe if you're going to try & raise Special Attack stat.

If you already used Calcium on it, it's kinda worthless to go EV training because you already maxed out those stats. You can have a total of 5XX EVs on one Pokémon. If you use Calcium, you only get 100 out of that 5XX so it's best to just breed Volcarona... if that's possible at least. I don't even recall what that Pokémon is.
*is confused*

510 total, 255 cap per a stat. Vitamins get you up to 100 or so, and then you have to manually train the rest.
Azure_Kite
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But if you wanna be really pedantic, you should strive to get 252/252/4 in another stat, though :3 Just for that extra point. Like a boss
Hika
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Ekaru wrote:

510 total, 255 cap per a stat. Vitamins get you up to 100 or so, and then you have to manually train the rest.
/rapidnod

Yeah, I just realized. I actually had to call someone up on that...
Ekaru
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Azure_Kite wrote:

But if you wanna be really pedantic, you should strive to get 252/252/4 in another stat, though :3 Just for that extra point. Like a boss
That's what I do when I'm up for it. >.>;
Azure_Kite
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hmmm, Once I'm done with my living dex I'll start raising them all to a certain level. Let's say 50 minimum, every pokémon.

I'll cap the timer in no time.
Ekaru
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mm201 wrote:

If this thread is taking the general route, I might as well mention that I love collecting shinies and have a very large armada of unique shinies. I also have lots of duplicates from the Pokéradar I'd be glad to share around.
I'll trade you my shiny Krokorok for one of those dupes. ;P
Crimmi
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Hika wrote:

Crimmi wrote:

Does anybody here EV train here, cause i need to get some EV stats for my Lv. 56 Volcarona and basically i heard that it's Sp Attk stat could up by 3 and doubles up via EV training.
If you haven't used Calcium on it, don't use it or else you'd be messing yourself up. Just go train in Celestial Tower & go fight the Elgyem that are on the third floor I think? Put a Power Lens on it just to be safe if you're going to try & raise Special Attack stat.

If you already used Calcium on it, it's kinda worthless to go EV training because you already maxed out those stats. You can have a total of 5XX EVs on one Pokémon. If you use Calcium, you only get 100 out of that 5XX so it's best to just breed Volcarona... if that's possible at least. I don't even recall what that Pokémon is.
Hmm thanks, because back in the past I people who had the same pokemon with the same nature with just higher stats than mine.

BTW, does anybody use the pokemon from the Orre region? (Pokemon Colosseum & XD: Gale of Darkness)
Azure_Kite
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Well, the Orre region had no region specific pokemon, so nobody would really bother with them unless you wanted a few Pokemon with ever so slightly different movesets
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