senaya wrote:

just one diff? going for approval? max score is over 25 mio, so yes
if yes, then maybe map breaks at 01:09:224 and 03:21:982 too? i feel like i want to move, but there are no notes :< I don't feel like mapping this parts. Let's say: if more people complain about this I will take it into consideration.

some silly suggestions:
00:02:758 - 00:23:448 - add claps or soft whistles to follow claps in the music? sounds kinda plain as it is now. This is the intro, whistles or claps really don't fit here imo, but I added more finishes with lowered volume. If I would follow the claps in the music I had to place hitsounds on nearly every object.
00:10:689 (9) - reverse? no, I want to smash the button on the downbeat
00:57:931 (6,1) - too close, i'd move 00:58:275 (1) to the upper right. moved to the upper left
02:10:344 (2) - reverse and move 02:10:862 (4) to the end of the slider? (try both 1 and 2) no, there is this "woho" twice in the music, so I want to use the exactly same object twice
01:51:120 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing is too tight imo, at lesat curve it more gently are low-spaced streams forbidden? but I say yes to curving it better
02:48:620 - nothing here but you have circles at 02:49:999 (4) and 02:51:379 (7) D: circle placed

p3n wrote:

[General]
Are you really sure you want to waste this map as an approval? Cutting the score a bit to just <20m by using a few more (repeat-) sliders instead of circles/streams should be no big deal. Add a 3,5 star normal-diff and get this mapset ranked! Two Problems: first of all I don't like the idea of changing the map to decrease the max score. The map is good now, in my opinion major changes will only make the map less fun to play. Second problem: mapping Normal diffs is so boring for me. I will definitely not map a Normal (only solution is a guest diff here, but I don't know who to ask and there is still the first problem). I know it is much harder to get a map approved than ranked, but due to this two problems I don't see any other way.


[Insane]
Beatplacement suggestions:

Some parts are just disconnected 1/2 spam and could be improved to match the actual song (combine beat + vocals/melody) by using (repeat-) sliders. Only a few examples to get the idea but you don't have to follow those:

00:29:137 (1,2,3,4) - weird timing, (2,3) don't match the melody/vocal follow the player would expect from the combo before this; maybe try something similar to the placement you used @02:41:551 (1,2,3,4), or try this: http://puu.sh/pJMs I tried a completely new pattern here

456,140,29137,6,0,B|456:96|456:96|440:48,2,95
377,199,29655,2,0,B|361:290|361:290|328:328,2,142.5
280,232,30344,1,0

00:39:137 (2,3) - delete (3) and add a repeat to (2), add a circle where (3) used to end to match the actual flow of the vocals and beat at the same time I don't see where this would fit better. No changes, I like the pattern.
01:35:344 (1,2) - delete (2) and add a repeat to (1) so the slider fits both the beat and the vocals changed
03:58:965 (7,8) - maybe delete (7) and move (8) back by 1/2 and add a repeat to it, same beatpattern but has a better flow regarding the beat+vocals mixup in the song changed
04:09:482 (5,6) - ctrl+R to match the actual song, the player would expect the slider to start on 04:09:482 since the long sliders before that all matched the melody. Also fix hitsounds afterwards (remove whistle + clap from sliderending and add to the circle). It is ok to slide over this downbeat here because it is not dominant at all (the one before and after this one are). changed
04:10:172 (7,8,9) - maybe turn these into two 1x repeat sliders to match the melody flow: http://puu.sh/pK2r no


Readability issues:

00:50:689 (5) - maybe add NC here to improve readability of this pattern, or you could place (5,6,7) like this (higher difficulty) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/292343 (ctrl+R (5,6) for lower difficulty) added NC
02:58:534 (8,1) - a jump mid-stream? I'd say it is not necessary, hard to read and just confusing (almost trolling the player who doesn't know this because he didn't map it ). If you want to keep that gap maybe delete (8) or just use a normal stream. For me personally it plays and feels best to delete 02:58:534 (8) and 02:59:224 (8) aswell I did this because on the second part of the stream a new drum starts drumming. To make this change visible in the map I put a jump, NC and normal hitsound sampleset. I like this really much! But ofcourse you are right, this is just very surprising so I removed 02:58:534 (8) "sadface".



I did like it the first time I played it back then and it is even better now. Still some room for improvement, especially to make the map fit both melody and beat at the same time (I know this is miuch easier said than done). Overall I think it would be sad to waste this for approval only. Maybe you can think about making this rankable instead. I don't understand how an approval would be a waste. And as pointed out above there is one unsolvable problem for me about getting this ranked and another very hard one.

O.O circle-slider-ratio is still 2:1 althoughI didn't care about it when I worked on your mod. That was lucky xD.

ertyukjh010 wrote:

Hello,

[Insane]

00:23:620 - useless inherited point I am increasing the volume here O_O
00:23:793 - ^ ^
00:23:965 - ^ ^
00:24:137 - ^ ^
00:24:310 - ^ ^
00:24:482 - ^ ^
00:24:655 - ^ ^
00:32:241 - ^ deleted
03:43:448 - ^ ^
03:53:448- Nc bug added

that all

L i d a N wrote:

o/\o

General

1. You can delete the .osb file in the folder since the map doesn't have any SB. ah, I forgot to do this

Insane

1. 01:08:965 - 01:20:000 - Maybe map that break? Doesn't really feel like a place to put a break. Damn you, you are the second one complaining about this break. I am so lazy, I really don't feel like mapping this at the moment. But okay, because you are already the second one I will do this in the near future (hopefully).
2. 03:21:724 - 03:32:241 - ^ ^ *sigh*
3. 01:57:241 (5,6,7) - Maybe put the slider point on all of these in the middle? I think they look better like this. sure, I don't know what happened here when I was mapping this
4. 03:20:344 (10) - New combo? okay
5. 04:11:379 (10) - ^ okay
6. 04:11:551 (1) - Remove new combo okay

Awesome map. I really like your mapping style yay, thanks x)
Good luck~

agussdg wrote:

do not overdo the space you have to map (00:40:344 (5,6) - ) I checked it with the default skin and didn't detected any problems like hp-bar touching or out of screen, so this is ok.
Play it and see if there are "funny" the map the pattern is nice
00:57:413 (3,5,1) - i dont like 3 and 1 http://puu.sh/sb51 changed

I like your map :B x)

sorry for my bad english I understood everything x)

those wrote:

From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
Delete .osb file(s) and full submit if you aren't using a storyboard or the same storyboard across all difficulties. I thought I have already done this...
If you would like, you can delete all your bookmarks to decrease the size of your .osz file by a little since you won't be needing them by the time this gets put on the server. Yeah.
The default sliderslide.wav is getting in the way of the music. I suggest you create two blank custom hitsound files called "normal-sliderslide.wav" and "soft-sliderslide.wav", then changing your Samplesets to be Custom1. added soft-sliderslide.wav (normal-sliderslide.wav is not needed)

[Insane]
00:50:344 (3,4,1,2,3) - Not sure if this pattern is appropriate right here. it is
00:58:620 (2) - Kickback is covered by the hitburst of 00:57:931 (6), making it unrankable. rotated
01:48:275 (4) - Kickback is covered by the hitburst of 01:47:241 (8). changed
01:55:862 (5) - NC okay
01:56:551 (1) - Remove NC okay
01:57:241 (5) - NC okay
02:05:517 (6) - NC no
02:01:206 (4) - Kickback is covered by the hitburst of 02:00:344 (1). changed
02:06:206 (1) - Remove NC no {in a dnb song like this you should have your new combos mainly on the 4/4s, as opposed to whatever vocals you may be mapping to. Try to fix the rest of the combos, and PM me if you need any help}. If I put NC everytime on the first beat in a measure some patterns get interrupted and look ugly as a result. And putting NCs after vocals is fitting in my opinion :3. I still changed it after your advice in some cases.
03:13:793 (7) - Kickback is partially covered by the hitburst of 03:13:448 (6). I don't think this is a big problem here because the return arrow already appears before the hitburst.

Good luck :3

CDFA wrote:

Insane:
Tick Rate 2? It sounds weird for me. I could add a silent slidertick.wav, but it isn't allowed to have a slient sliderslide.wav and a silent slidertick.wav at the same time and I already have s silent sliderslide.wav. Additionally I don't see a reason why I should set tick rate 2.
01:08:965 - Continue using claps after this part! D: I don't know if this may soind a bit monotonus but okay, I added them until 01:31:034.
01:45:344 (1) - Don't have this overlap! D: moved
03:13:793 (7) - HIDDEN REPEAT. This might be passable because you can see it for the slightest of bits when it appears before (6) is completed, but it's still significantly covered by the hitburst ;~;. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/309982 I liked this pattern so much... ;__; ...moved...
03:21:724 - Same as 1:08 done until 03:42:068
04:49:662 - Add note with finish here! okay

This is actually a really nice map. I'm going to give you 2 stars because this is the first approval map in a while where I haven't wanted to murder the mapper but it still was challenging. haha, thank you :3

CDFA wrote:

Also, don't kudosu this post. I missed this in my mod.

Title should be Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) this

I'd personally put MaxNRG in the tags and just have remix, but I'm not too sure about which one is better~.

spboxer3 wrote:

:idea: general

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting/general issue.)
  

1. none

Insane

• 
  
  Overlaps
  (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  

1. 01:25:517 (4,5,6,8) - changed a little bit

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:09:482 (4,9) - let it stack,It's looks like a bit depart off yes
2. 00:27:413 (2,4) - recheck this pattern. It's different shape. try to reverse 00:27:413 (2) - twice you are right, how did this happen? O_O
3. 02:27:758 (6,9) - let it stack please~ yes
4. 04:34:482 (4,7) - ^ yes

It's looks awesome~
good luck ~

GamerX4life wrote:

My Mod:

[General]

1. sehr gelungene Map danke
2. der/die/das (xD) Mod besteht nur aus Vorschlägen, die meiner Meinung nach verbessert werden sollten

[Insane]

1. 00:36:551 Dieser Slider sieht ziemlich hässlich aus. Probier mal diesen hier: (und passe das spacing an)
   

   56,336,36551,2,0,B|35:330|20:323|11:315|0:301|-4:289|-3:271|-2:258|3:244|15:227,2,142.5

   Bild: http://puu.sh/v2Dd Der Slider an sich sieht dann zwar besser aus, alledings sieht es schlechter zusammen mit 00:36:206 (6) aus.
2. 01:15:344 (5,6,7) wow sehr gute Formation Wenn man einmal den Dreh raus hat ist sowas nicht mehr schwer zu mappen.
3. 01:29:310 (8,1) es wäre besser, wenn du dieses Überlappen beseitigst ( http://puu.sh/v2FE ) stimmt, hab's geändert
4. 02:01:206 (5) der Slider ist zu weit "oben" und rammt beim Spielen meine Fortschrittsanzeige (etwas tiefer setzen oder anders neigen) hm, okay
5. 02:06:206 (1,2) Setz entweder die Endpunkte genau aufeinander oder beseitige diese "Überlappung" ich habe es so geändert, dass diese Überlappung jetzt gut aussieht (zumindest in meinen Augen)
6. 02:51:551 (1,2) ^ hab ihn ein bisschen verschoben

Hoffe das mein(e) mod "ok", da ich grad versuche mich darin zu bessern... Klar ist der/die/das (lol) okay.

Viel Glück!

Katty Pie wrote:

hi from my mod Q ^.^

INSANE

00:26:724 - replace on slider in red ticks nah, doesn't sound good imo
00:31:034 - add note no
00:36:206(6,1,2) - why different distance?? make so http://puu.sh/y7KA yes
00:53:275 - add note no
00:54:137 - make so really sound better http://puu.sh/y7Nm (don't forget correct claps) I tried it out, but it feels not so good imo
01:12:413 - add note I turned 01:12:241 (4) into a slider, it has the same effect like as circle but feels better
01:15:172 - ^ it really sound better and creates the general rhythm same as ^ but with 01:15:000 (4)
01:24:827 - make this slider not double, prolong to white tick and add clap on the end, on red rick add note no, this slider fits perfectly O_O
01:27:586(3,4) - make perfect stack wasn't stacked good enough it seems...
01:39:310 - add note with new combo nah, the look of the pattern is more important imo
01:49:137(6,7,1) - make identical distance between notes okay
02:08:620 - NC no
03:27:931 - make this slider symmetric yeah, didn't see this
03:27:586 - add note okay
04:25:000 - ^ no, this little "break" is needed imo and remove 04:25:258 note here no, it fits perfectly
04:36:551 - trade places note and slider okay
04:39:827 - put this note on white tick added a circle instead
04:41:206 - remove this note no
04:42:586 - put this note on white tick added a circle instead
04:52:413 - volume 5% nah, 10% is fine, especially when you pay attention to the proportional volume change

It's all for me good luck ~~

Jacob wrote:

As per your mod request.

Insane

1. 00:28:448 (4) - This is in the exact same spot as (2), making rankability a question. You should rearrange it just in case. okay
2. 01:04:482 (3) - It would make more sense and flow better if you reversed this. (just a suggestion) no, I like the current version more
3. 01:08:275 (9) - You should add a NC to this note due to the fact that the current combo goes for a pretty long time. okay
4. 01:16:551 (1,2) - These slightly overlap eachother. Please make it so that they don't for the sake of looking nice. they already look nice, I like how they are touching O_O
5. 01:35:862 (2,3,4) - You should turn these into one slider for easier readability. Thought it was a jump at first. okay
6. 01:50:000 (3) - One grid to the left for symmetrical overlaps with the next slider. yes, didn't notice this
7. 02:28:620 (9) - The end of this slider is covered up by the hitburst of (6), making it difficult to tell that it's a slider. don't know if my solution is good >.<
8. 03:11:896 (4) - Put this in the same spot as the end of (2). Looks neater and makes more sense. hmm, okay
9. 03:19:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Hitbursts make this stream sort of cluttered, not visually appealing, and even difficult to read. http://puu.sh/yeVb okay
10. 03:26:465 (4,5) - Thought these were jumps again due to the jumpy and fast paced nature of the song. After 3 minutes of this song one shoud be able to predict this rhythm. Additionally a bit variety is good, always having the same pattern may become boring.

Pretty nice work! Just a note - the beginning of the song and the part after the break are lacking hitsounds. I'm sure you could do something creative with them! This was intended, because this is the calmer part of the song. I could add some, but I think it is better without.

Hawkii wrote:

Hellu Sir Tshemmp. :3 Hi Hawkii (und warum Sir D:)

Zuerst mal möcht ich sagen das deine Map wirklich total lustig zu Spielen, man merkt gar nicht das das ein 4 Minuten Lied ist. Danke! (es sind sogar 5 Minuten)

Das einzige was mir auffällt sind deine (meiner Meinung nach) eckligen SliderzZz D:

Deshalb hab ich hier mal n paar Vorschläge wie du diese vlt ändern könntest.

[Slider-Mod]

SPOILER

1. 00:04:482 (7,8,9) - vlt so symmetrisch ? http://puu.sh/yOe5 dein Vorschlag sieht wirklick wunderschön aus, allerdings gibt es etwas, was mich davon abhält ihn zu benutzen: der Flow leidet darunter
2. 00:14:655 (4) - sieht etwas schöner aus und spielt sich auch smoother besser http://puu.sh/yOeZ habe es ein wenig verändert, allerdings nicht zu sehr, damit es zusammen mit 00:15:517 (5) weiterhin gut aus sieht
3. 00:19:310 (1) - ;...; versuch den hier http://puu.sh/yOhB urgh, ich hasse es solche Slider zu mappen. Bei Maps von anderen Leuten habe ich kein Problem damit, vor allem da sich wunderschöne Patterns damit machen lassen, aber ich meinen eigenen Maps wirst du die nicht finden.
4. 00:20:000 (2) - ^ http://puu.sh/yOiE ich würde x: 232 y: 344 als Beginn nehmen o: weil ich ^ nicht verändert habe, werde ich diesen auch nicht verändern
5. 00:27:931 (3) - vlt nach unten ? http://puu.sh/yOlo ja, hast Recht, der Flow ist so besser
6. 00:36:551 (2) - q.q vlt so? http://puu.sh/yOmG mit dem momentanen Slider bin ich auch nicht wirklich zufrieden, allerdings habe ich bis jetzt noch keine bessere Möglichkeit entdeckt, da ist dein Vorschlag keine Ausnahme
7. 00:40:689 (7) - mach hier bei dem ersten sliderpunkt (sliderviereck?) 2 grids nach oben und beim 2en Sliderpunkt 2 grid nach unten dann sieht der schöner aus x: ich finde ihn schöner in dieser "breiten" Version (durch deinen Vorschlag wird er "schmaler")
8. 00:43:448 (2) - vlt so dann siehts mit den vorherigen HC's 3 und 5 gut aus :3 http://puu.sh/yOrQ coole Idee, wird gemacht. Aus Gründen des Flows packe ich ihn allerdings auf die linke Seite der Circe
9. 00:59:310 (4) - dann siehts mit dem vorherigen HC 1 gut aus http://puu.sh/yOu9 wie gesagt mappe ich solche Slider nicht
10. 01:10:344 (1) - Mach den wie bei den beiden? 01:08:965 (1,2) http://puu.sh/yOvf da hier eine NC ist sehe ich keinen Grund den gleichen Slider nochmal zu benutzen, vor allem da der jetzige gut aus sieht und der Flow ebenfalls ser gut ist
11. 01:26:034 (7,10,2) - lass die 3 Slider vlt gerade? x: wieso, Waveslider sind doch schön?
12. 01:44:137 (2) - maybe like this http://puu.sh/yOzc again one of these sliders
13. 01:44:827 (4) - copy paste ^that one^ und STRG+H; +R ? ^ = no --> this = no, too
14. 01:57:241 (1,2,3) - oh Gott was für eine epische Formation *^* ctrl+r 120°/240° ist bewirkt Wunder
15. 02:36:551 (3) - hurr sieht irgwie komisch aus .. Probier den :3 http://puu.sh/yOBP ja, der war ein bisschen planlos xD
16. 02:53:793 (4) - vlt Finish? whistle passt besser denke ich, nicht ganz so voluminös und ähnlicher Effekt
17. 02:55:172 (2) - ^ yup
18. 02:54:482 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/yOFL ? nö
19. 03:13:103 (5,6,7) - würde ich gerade lassen x: sieht dann aber ein bisschen langweilig aus
20. 03:48:275 (3) - vlt so damit er das Ende vom nächsten Slider nicht überlappt http://puu.sh/yOI6 die Startpunkte von 03:47:586 (1,2,3,4) ergeben ein Pattern und der daraus resultierende Flow ist weitaus wichtiger
21. 03:50:344 (4) - so und dann die nächsten beiden passend gerade? http://puu.sh/yOJU rechteckige Slider... :<
22. 03:54:568 (1,2) - u: http://puu.sh/yOOP u.u

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15 Bilder ... Es tut mir immer innerlich weh, wenn Modder offensichtlich viel Zeit investieren und ich dann die meisten Punkte ablehnen muss. Tut mir leid .

Hoffentlich magsu schöne Slider >: mag ich, aber ich mappe nicht alle Styles :<

und hoffentlich konnt ich dir ein wenig helfen. :3 auf jeden Fall, ( ein Stern hilft übrigens auch immer x) )

Dafür gibs aber auch n Stern.

Viel Glück noch ^..^

Edit: Whooot just played the taiko-difficulty .. soo many awesome not too hard streams. Fuuuunnn :,DDD Kurosanyan too pro for us :O

Deine Posts sind immer sooo schön aufgebaut .

bomber34 wrote:

01:26:379 (8) - I don't know it is to much hidden under the 300er/100 or 50 from getting (5), cause of that slow fading from hits~ it actually is a little bit hidden but stacked notes are completly hidden, so this shouldn't be a problem. Furthermore the following pattern is so nice that I don't want to change it.

I really suck on mapping approves aldako sorry, I cannot give you kudo because I didn't follow any of suggestion of yours

Sync wrote:

[Insane]
00:50:689 (1) - Remove this combo -- there's nothing of significance going on in the music, so it's only putting stress on the HP drain. I put this NC to make it easier readable. But since I changed the pattern like you suggested with the next point I removed the NC.

00:50:862 (6,7) - This pattern is iffy. Despite that, it'd follow the music better if you deleted (7) and made (6) a 1-beat slider. okay

00:55:000 (3) - The slider is ending on a beat where one should start -- replace it with a hit circle and then add a 1-beat slider at changed

02:01:206 (5) - You're placing a repeat on a downbeat -- a repeat is not a good way to stress a heavy beat like this, so replace the slider with a hit circle and then add a 1/2-beat slider at 02:01:379 (6) with a new combo. After that, remove the combo from 02:01:896 (1). yeah

02:12:068 (2) - Just like before, you're not stressing the downbeat properly. Also, it's inconsistent from the previous measure. As you can see, you placed a 1-beat slider at 02:11:034 (5) which fit the music very well. Remove the repeat and add a 1-beat slider at 02:12:413 (3). By doing this, you're keeping consistency and creating a better feel for the music. Actually the measure you have to compare this measure is this one: 02:06:896. Anyway I added this slider.

03:26:465 (4) - This off-beat is awkward to play. Seeing as you've dealt with polarity in a very respectable way this entire time, remove (3), replace it with a hit-circle and add a 3/4th beat slider at 03:26:206 (4). Here's a timeline reference. okay

03:58:965 (7) - Get rid of this repeat and add a hit circle where the slider originally ended to stress the vocals more. Make sure to add the combo on the newly created element and remove the one on the next hit circle. okay

04:25:344 (4) - This repeat-slider is unpredictable, for a lack of a better term. You have to read the next approach circle to determine when it ends, which isn't good. This part is kind of messy, so take a close look at the timeline and make changes accordingly: http://puu.sh/ySnw sorry, but it feels just much better how it is now

04:32:413 (1) - see what I said about 00:50:689 (1). I cannot remember the reason why I put a NC here, so I removed it.

Good luck! Great remix and this map has a lot of potential.

spboxer3 wrote:

random check by #modreqs
since I have modded this map: p/1526420

Insane

• 
  mapping
  (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  02:13:275 (5,4) - error. duplicated note/slider. fixed (how did this happen O_O)

What are you waiting for?
cell me back when you fixed this issue~xD

EDIT: don't give me KD plz

Derekku wrote:

[Insane]
*7 OD is a bit too low for an Insane like this; I highly suggest raising it to 8. okay
*6 Drain could possibly be raised as well (to 7). I like Drain 6 more here because it is a very long map with only one break in it. And this map is not sooo insane like others, I don't think it needs a harder Drain.
04:25:172 (2,3,4) - 4 confused me a bit because of the 1/4 stack turning into multiple repeats. How about unstacking 2/3 from this so that it looks like a mini stream? Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/354764 Since you are the second one complaining about this multiple repeat slider I removed it and mapped a stream instead.