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minyeob
[Swim The Lake]
2:48:829 (2)- Sounds strange. I can't get a 300 on here. move 1/4 beat backward(make 1/4 beat slower) then unlock the grid snap. and make closer from (3)

3:10:208 (4)- Move up a bit.


[Swim The Larto Lake]
20:959(1)- Extend 1/8 beat.
53:954(3)- Move left a bit.
2:49:204(7)-Move down a bit.

[Swim The Ocean]
1:09:454(3)-Unlock the grid snap, click the distance snap(1.0). Then Move down a bit.
1:09:833(4)-Same as above
1:54:704(1)-Unlock the gird snap and move right a bit.

There is a limit when you use a grid snap only.

EDIT:Feed a Kudosu to Larto, gladi, maxwell, sin and me. :(
MaxwellDemon
I keep thinking an offset of 202... but, eh... I don't know. XD

Swim the Lake
01:08:82 (1) - Start 1/4th later
01:10:32 (3) - 1/8th later. Hahahaha.
01:19:32 (1) - Start 1/4th later, end 1/4th earlier
02:25:70 (1) - Slider sounds odd, I say it could start one repeat later.
02:37:83 (1) - Could really start 1/4th later.
02:45:83 (1) - ^
02:45:83 (1) - ^
02:53:83 (1) - ^ Okay, you get my drift, really. :P

Don't find much problem with Larto's difficulty...

Swim the Ocean
02:29:83 (1) - Refer to Swim the Lake, and other spinners of similarity and "Kelsey" :P

Other than that... there seems to be some 1/8th notes in this song, but I can't really pinpoint it. Sinistro had made some previous notes about it... but yeah, Metro Station's singer needs to go get shot. :P
Cyclone
seems slightly early, but only very slightly. 3-4 ms tops.

[Swim the Ocean]

A lot bothers me, but i think it's just because of the weird rhythms in the song.

02:00:58 (1,2,3,4) - I just don't like this. Either make the slider a non-repeating slider(making it only a 1/2 beat slider) or try this (This is just how i would have personally done it)
02:00:45 - Circle
02:00:70 - Circle
02:00:83 - Circle
02:01:08 - Slider (1/2 beat long, no repeat)
02:01:45 - Circle
02:01:70 - Circle
02:17:45 (1) - I'd say move this onto the red tick. It may not follow the vocals exactly, but it feels better to me. (and shorten accordingly.)
02:19:45 (1) - Also shorten this for same reasons as above.
02:29:95 (1) - 1/4 longer.
02:37:95 (1) - ^
02:45:95 (1) - Too short in my opinion.
03:01:70 (1,2,3) - These kinda come out of nowhere. This is the only spot you included jumps, and it seems like a weird place to decide to do that.
03:28:20 - Timing section needs to go here for 124 BPM.

Anyways, i have to go for now. What i've posted includes my opinions as well as modding. If you disagree with what i've posted, just let me know.
DawnII
[Swim the Lake]
01:08:95 (1,2,3) - This sounds bad. Move (1) 1/4 back, remove (3), and repeat (2).
01:19:45 (1) - Extend 1/4.
02:47:45 (1) - Too far from (2).
02:50:20 (4) - Too far from (3).
02:53:95 (1) - End 1/4 earlier.
03:28:20 (1) - This isn't so important but IMO I think it sounds better ending 1 beat earlier.

[Swim the Larto Lake]
Name should definitely be Larto Swims the Lake
00:57:95 (1) - Extend 1/8.
00:58:33 (2) - Extend 1/8.
01:57:08 (1) - Extend 1/4, remove whistle.
01:58:95 (1) - Remove whistle.
03:21:70 (1) - Add whistle to slider track.
03:23:70 (3) - Replace with just one hitcircle.

[Swim the Ocean]
00:13:51 (5) - Too close to (4).
00:14:76 (8,9,10) - Sounds bad, no suggestions other than ditch it.
00:39:14 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move 1/4 earlier (I know it's earlier than the beat, but it sounds much better this way).
00:41:25 (9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3) - Same as above.
01:05:14 (1) - Same as above.
01:31:51 (5,6,7) - Move 1/4 earlier.
02:25:00 (2) - Add a note 1/4 earlier.
02:25:25 (3) - Move 1/4 later.
02:25:50 (4,6) - Remove these two.
02:48:76 (5) - Move 1/4 later, stack this with (4,6).
Topic Starter
EEeee
DAWNII U thanks a lot but something seems way off with my map, never touched it in a while, and wow
GOD THIS GUY Won't stop singing to 1/8(Maxwell pointed it out)
so kudosu for u
Larto said something was wrong with his hitsounds, So I mine was messed up too.GOD thats what happens when I don't touch a map in a while
huh
Larto
Download: Metro Station - Kelsey (EEeee) [Swim the Larto Lake].osu

And I swim the ocean for you~
The ocean for you~

WOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOAH
KELSEY!



Btw, fixed everything, also Dawn's problems.
cesc
:Q__
Starred
Alace
<Swim the Lake>
00:22:70 (1) a bit too far from the slider
hmm too many spinners imo
try to use sliders or something to replace those spinners

<Larto>
Hey you are so evil XDDDD
I like those whistle sliders
Good job
03:00:70 (5)~(11) ugly XD

<Swim the Ocean>
00:13:45 (5) down a bit
00:41:20 (1) can you move more far from 00:40:76 (8)
Spinners.... too much imo

I like most of hitsounds. but some parts have too many finish sounds XD
I am sorry took so long time to give you a short post
This song is really hard for me to mod XD (i don`t want to be nazi )
overall is a good map
stared
Mafiamaster
Swim the Lake~

00:13:45 (1) - Move right on top of 1's endpoint
01:04:46 (1) - Make the endpoint right on top of 2.
01:24:03 (1,1) - End these on the white ticks.
02:32:73 (2) - Align this with 1.
03:02:49 (1,2,3,4) - Move all these a tick to the right on Grid Level 3.

Swim the Larto Lake~

Okay, I'm seeing a few sliders that aren't quite synced, or ends too early. So...
So choose the option "Recalculate Slider Length" while on the 1/6 divisor. Then check your whole map for sliders that end up being too late or too early from recalculating.

Swim the Ocean~

00:44:45 (2) - Check distance spacing again
00:56:70 (1) - Maybe put on top of the endpoint of the slider?
01:19:40 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Too early.
01:23:97 (1,1) - ^
01:40:14 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Some real weird timing of the beats there.
02:00:64 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - ^
02:15:26 (1) - Move to 02:15:37.
02:54:89 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - To early.
03:07:42 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - ^

Using 1/6 notes mixed in with 1/8 notes makes me sad
Larto
An64fan
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Topic Starter
EEeee
Just wanna say thanks for all the mods, it really helps
Anyways..... Larto Hurry up, U could just edit ur old post and add a new attachment:P

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Larto

An64fan wrote:

Swim the Larto Lake
This is assuming I'm dealing with the most recent version...
00:11:20 (8) - Weird timing is weird. Shorten to the full beat and adjust spacing as needed. Done
00:20:95 (1) - I'd say to lengthen a 1/4 beat. Done
00:22:95 (1) - ^ Done
00:33:70 (6) - Lengthen to the 1/4. Done
00:33:95 (7,8,1,2) - Adjust spacing around here (kinda uneven). Seemed fine with me.
00:58:33 (2) - Lengthen 1/4 and adjust spacing as needed. Done
01:08:83 (1) - 1/4 back and adjust as needed. Changed pattern entirely.
01:09:83 (1) - Same. Changed pattern entirely.
01:10:39 (2) - Move to the 1/2.Changed pattern entirely.
02:21:45 (4) - Would personally say to shorten it by 1/2 beat, though it works as it is now if that's how you prefer it.Killed anyways :O
02:57:20 (2,3,4,5) - Your spacing looks a bit sloppy here, Larto. :Pit is? Well, fixed I think.
03:12:20 (1,1) - Shorten both to the 1/2s.Done
03:23:20 (1,2,3) - Why is it that all of your guest diffs I've been seeing recently have something like this? ): Tbh, it feels quite out of place. Lolfixed.
Download: Metro Station - Kelsey (EEeee) [Swim the Larto Lake].osu

EDIT: Added Kiai
Pasonia
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An64fan
Swim the Lake
3:20:04 - Wait, why isn't this section inherited? Actually, not just that, you have two timing sections right next to each other.
Also, the bpm's different on this than the other diffs.

Swim the Larto Lake
01:31:70 (5,6) - Your spacing looks sloppy. I must have missed it before.
01:45:95 (4,5) - Here, too.
02:13:20 (2,3,4) - Sorry, buddy.
02:50:20 (2,3) - Nyeh.
03:01:95 (11,12,13) - You get it, right?
03:12:20 (1,1) - Not perfect half-circles. Sorry, I'm picking on you, aren't I?
03:23:20 (1,2,3,4) - Spaaaaacing.
No, I'm seriously sorry, but there's just that something about your spacing that just makes me feel the need to nitpick at it.

Swim the Ocean
00:18:45 (5,6,7) - Not sure if this is intended, but these are kind of far from the previous beats.
00:53:20 (3,4,5) - Kind of close to the previous.
01:00:95 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd say... Push both 3 and 4 back and adjust as needed.
01:09:95 (3) - Just feel this slider's a little questionable, just with how it's set up in respect to the following slider.
02:03:70 (7,1,2,3) - Spacing~
02:06:95 (1,2,3,4,5) - Kind of questionable spacing in respect to the previous slider... Would say to move this combo a bit further away from it.
02:09:70 (1,1,2,3,4) - Spacing again.
02:12:70 (3,4,5) - Hello spacing.
02:22:70 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - Again
02:27:956 - Maybe put a beat here? Feels a bit incomplete.
02:35:956 - Same
03:09:70 (4,5,6,7) - Slight spacing adjustment here
03:24:20 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Seems kind of weird with how close it is to the previous slider.
3:28:20 - You know, I don't understand these timing sections anymore.

Mnn.... I'd say to just take a trip through and clear out the timing sections you don't need from each difficulty as well, because there are a few of those odd ones in places that aren't really needed. Just sort of a cleaning-it-up kind of thing. In any case, this looks a lot better than the last time I looked, and the timing isn't making my head explode either, so good work.
Topic Starter
EEeee
first of all thanks an64fan.......
2nd, Pasonia HOW LONG DO U SLEEP,
Larto
eee

Larto wrote:

D:
Should Have said eee!!!
Yuukari-Banteki
[Swim the Lake]
00:09:95 (1) - i dont like this repetition on the off-beats :/ for this and all others like it
00:56:45 (2,1) - slider overlap is ugly
01:08:83 (1) - start this 1/4 later
01:19:45 (1) - start this 1/2 later
01:27:33 (1) - start and end on white ticks
in this particular section ^ the hit volume is too loud
02:02:70 (2) - line this up above 1
02:06:95 (1) - align under 2
02:21:95 (2) - imperfect stacking
02:53:95 (1) - add a finish
03:28:33 (1) - straighten out the second section of this so that its horizontal/vertical/horizontal/vertical
you need more hitsounds imo


[Swim the Larto Lake]
00:11:95 (1) - line this up with 8
00:47:70 (5) - abrupt sound change in the middle of a stream is kinda ugh
00:52:95 (1,2,3,4) - sounds awkward
01:21:20 (6) - imperfect stacking
01:29:08 (5,6) - ^
01:31:08 (2,3) - ^
01:52:20 (2) - ^
01:53:20 (1,2) - ^
01:55:95 (2) - ^
02:25:08 (5,6) - ^
02:33:08 (6,7) - ^


[Swim the Ocean]
00:11:95 (1) - imperfect stacking
00:15:45 (1) - why is this not straight
00:33:45 (4) - center between 2 and 3
00:51:70 (6) - line this up with 4
01:08:95 (5) - start this 1/2 later if you're mapping to the lyrics
01:15:95 (4) - imperfect stacking
01:29:95 (1) - there are plenty of perfectly good places for finish that you passed by so that you could put one here, where it doesn't even sound good :(
01:41:45 (4) - center between 2 and 3
01:44:20 (1) - imperfect stacking
01:44:70 (2) - line this up with 1
01:56:95 (1,2,3) - imperfect stacking
02:16:45 (2,3,4) - can you not put the circles on top of the slider
02:18:45 (2,3,4) - ^
02:20:45 (2,3,4) - ^
02:25:45 (4,5,6) - line this up with 2 and 3
03:09:20 (1,2,3,4) - can you not put the circles on top of the slider
03:16:20 (3) - improper stacking
03:29:65 (1) - remove sound for consistancy
03:31:10 (1) - ^
needs more hitsounds
Topic Starter
EEeee

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Swim the Lake]
Fixed all, except for some " off-beat" idk, but only some

[Swim the Ocean]
00:11:95 (1) - imperfect stacking-fixed
00:15:45 (1) - why is this not straight- not supossed to be
00:33:45 (4) - center between 2 and 3- sorry don't understand, looks between 2 and 3 :P
00:51:70 (6) - line this up with 4-fixed
01:08:95 (5) - start this 1/2 later if you're mapping to the lyrics--I am mapping to the lyrics T_T
01:15:95 (4) - imperfect stacking-fixed
01:29:95 (1) - there are plenty of perfectly good places for finish that you passed by so that you could put one here, where it doesn't even sound good :( -D: what, sound fine , but I'll add a whistle then, D:
01:41:45 (4) - center between 2 and 3- still don't understand
01:44:20 (1) - imperfect stacking- fixed
01:44:70 (2) - line this up with 1- fixed
01:56:95 (1,2,3) - imperfect stacking- fixed
02:16:45 (2,3,4) - can you not put the circles on top of the slider- no I like em on slider, tryin new patterns here, c'mon
02:18:45 (2,3,4) - ^ - ^
02:20:45 (2,3,4) - ^ - ^
02:25:45 (4,5,6) - line this up with 2 and 3 - >.> <.<
03:09:20 (1,2,3,4) - can you not put the circles on top of the slider - no
03:16:20 (3) - improper stacking - fixed
03:29:65 (1) - remove sound for consistancy - fixed
03:31:10 (1) - ^ - No
needs more hitsounds

K thanks, now larto ur turn
Larto
Okay, fixed everything. SFG's fixes made one pattern look REALLY weird. I fixed that by stacking manually. If you wonder why
01:51:45 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
ooks so weird in my difficulty, test that pattern and you see.Download: Metro Station - Kelsey (EEeee) [Swim the Larto Lake].osu
minyeob
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Larto

minyeob wrote:

[Swim the Larto Lake]
58:461(3)-> Move right a bit. Kay.
59:077(6)-> Remove Kay.
2:51:961(9)-> Unnecessary. Remove this. Naaah. It's syncing the "Wah wah wah wah" pretty well imho.
Download: Metro Station - Kelsey (EEeee) [Swim the Larto Lake].osu


Yai for free mod exp.
Card N'FoRcE
Timing seems late about 5-6ms to me.

- Swim the Lake:
01:05:20 (1) - move 1 square left
01:08:87 (1) - shouldn't this start on red tick and end on white tick? it seems really weird to use 1/8 here
02:44:08 (1) - end this in 2:46:456

- Swin Larto's Lake:
01:53:20 (1,2,3,4,1) - oh god, really great job overlapping these :O
02:13:95 (3,5) - uhm, how about trying to move them a little down-right? I don't like the 5, it seems too far.

- Swim the Ocean:
01:47:20 (1,2,3,4) - move them 1 square to the right: this is needed to fix the 4 (it's too much on the left)

Ok, cool map
:arrow: Star'd
Larto
Download: Metro Station - Kelsey (EEeee) [Swim the Larto Lake].osu


Meep. ALso, I removed one previous post.
mattyu007
Looks pretty good, but imo serious Kiai stars overuse (It's almost to the point where it gets annoying)... There are also Kiai sections which aren't very "Kiai time-ish"...
Here's what I suggest for Kiai time:
00:32:20 - 00:48:20
01:20:20 - 01:26:70
01:28:20 - 01:52:20
02:24:20 - 02:30:70
02:32:20 - 02:40:20
02:56:20 - 03:32:55

Swim the Ocean
00:40:70 (8) - 1 gridspace on "Tiny" over to the right
01:20:20() - Use Normal set here?
02:31:33 (1) - 1/4 too long? Sounds really weird right now

Here's your star >_>
Topic Starter
EEeee

mattyu007 wrote:

Swim the Ocean
00:40:70 (8) - 1 gridspace on "Tiny" over to the right - ooops, k fixed
01:20:20() - Use Normal set here? Lets try it, sounds ok, tried something fancy imo
02:31:33 (1) - 1/4 too long? Sounds really weird right now - moved this to end 1/6 back( somewhere
around here 02:31:919)



well .... k maybe overused.... but did it to add tension .... ( not really sure what I mean by that)
+ I don't think they get in the way of playing ... if that's the problem,, then I should change it
....

....
are u gonna mod the other difficulties..
Pasonia
Damned, why did this star have to happen? And towards the end of the map, too!

Lake

03:28:33 (1) - end this slider at 03:32:08, it's too long and I don't know what you're ending to. Kiai time... well, it seems a bit sparse at the front.

Ocean
01:16:95 (1,2,3,4,5) - Finish it off?!!!!!!! NO! Can you be a bit gentler on this and use whistle instead? =.=;
02:31:33 (1) - Move 1/4 right on the timeline and adjust the patterns accordingly.
03:31:10 (1) - End at 3:32:08, just like above.
Topic Starter
EEeee
K, Fixed all of pasonia's modding stuff....... and took away most of the kaia time D:
vytalibus
[Swim the Lake]
00:22:70 (1) - Considering that this is the easiest difficulty, I disapprove of this jump.
02:36:08 (1) - Does this have to start on a blue tick?
03:28:33 (1) - Move this back by 1/4.

[Swim the Larto Lake]
01:53:95 (2) - This slider looks way awkward when seen with the previous slider. :(

[Swim the Ocean]
01:41:20 (3) - Put this down. (4) looks squished in-between.

Fix it and I'll bubble.
Topic Starter
EEeee

vytalibus wrote:

[Swim the Lake]
00:22:70 (1) - Considering that this is the easiest difficulty, I disapprove of this jump. - k fixed
02:36:08 (1) - Does this have to start on a blue tick? - fixed
03:28:33 (1) - Move this back by 1/4. - hehe, fixed

[Swim the Larto Lake]
01:53:95 (2) - This slider looks way awkward when seen with the previous slider. :( - uhh yeah well I don't think it plays well in auto if its not like that

[Swim the Ocean]
01:41:20 (3) - Put this down. (4) looks squished in-between. - fixed, and I changed the following so that it's snapped
vytalibus
Bubbled.
noxioUz
nice song dude

:P
Pasonia
Popping the bubble because the spinner was not fixed on 03:31:10 (1) for Ocean.

vytalibus, you were absolutely sure that spinner was fine? =S it was ending at a ridiculous place, in terms of what sounded obvious.
ignorethis
21:16 <ignorethis> : 01:09:956 (7) - 这个地方不容易看清 <- Not clearly visible here. Try to change the slider.

21:18 <ignorethis> : 01:21:956 - 这地方怎么两条线 <- Two green lines here? I guess you directly based on Larto's ver, but I suggest removing them.


21:20 <ignorethis> : 02:31:456 - 这个延长到02:32:081比较好吧? <- Lengthen to 2:32:081 please? It sounds better imo.


21:22 <ignorethis> : 03:28:206 - 打这开始有好多没用的绿线 <- Same with the green lines problem mentioned above. I suggest removing as well.

*stars. Great map.
Pasonia
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Topic Starter
EEeee
K, first of all, I hope U guys were talking about "Swim the Ocean"

but fixed everything, except for the useless timing sections, because their not useless
The ones that were pointed out, were used to end a kaia time section, so that I can add another one which allow the stars to
shoot up :P
ergo not useless


OH!!! Snap, it won't happen again, but Vyt probably didn't see it, I tried to add somethin, but forgot to put the spinner back:P
sorry
Pasonia
I'll let you go this time for not following ignorethis's modding at 02:32:08, you're getting your bubble back until someone else picks a problem.

And please, if you could, please give me just a fraction of time to, like, allow me to hang myself already. Honestly, I didn't even intend to do much tonight but advance my SB on Moskau, but... ergh, seriously. Looks like that plan was doomed to fly out the window.
Topic Starter
EEeee
word

sorry for bugging, hope u have fun :P
vytalibus
Remembering my early bubble for this map, I'm going to be cautious about it and not rank it yet. Personally it's good, but since Pasonia and ignorethat noticed some errors that I didn't notice before, I want to be sure that no one else objects to some parts of the map.

That being said, I should discourage you from using too many timing sections in the future, even if they're meant to control the kiai time. There will come a time where it might serve more as a distraction rather than eye candy.
RemmyX25

Pasonia wrote:

And please, if you could, please give me just a fraction of time to, like, allow me to hang myself already. Honestly, I didn't even intend to do much tonight but advance my SB on Moskau, but... ergh, seriously. Looks like that plan was doomed to fly out the window.
:) Tis alright

/offtopic

Larto Lake:
00:20:95 (1,1) - These spinners feel like they should be 1/4 tick longer
vytalibus
Made fixes with EEeee on chat; bubbled.
Pasonia
And then ranked. I'm happy with this map in its current state.

UPDATE: Unranked by Larto due to sliders being messed up on Swim the Ocean.
awp
The sliders appear to be fine now. I didn't realise this was even ranked, I honestly would have popped any bubble for this one reason:

Kaia time is overused in the non-larto-lake difficulties. It should be used sparingly for dramatic effect; not used 50% of the time. They look good, otherwise, even if Ocean feels like an easy 9 million-ish.
vytalibus
Fix your new video's offset. It's off by a quarter mile (figuratively, that is). Not to mention the video change was completely unnecessary unless you have a good reason.

Also, I'm going to agree with awp that this map abuses the kiai mode quite alot.

[Swim the Ocean]
00:06:20 (11) - New combo mark.

Apparently, don't use kiai sections just for the visual blasts. You could've used SB elements instead.

EDIT: This is the rare time that a copy-pasta is actually better. Rebubbled.
mattyu007
Quick non-bubble pop mod

When you apply Kiai time, start it on the "...swim the Ocean..." instead of on the "...swim the ocean..."
Topic Starter
EEeee
Don't rank plz, ask me first I got somethin to add


edit: Where's the Bubble T_T wait there it is
mattyu007
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sesito71
Is this on a beatmap pack??
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sesito71
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