This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年9月15日 at 19:04:30

Artist: NANA
Title: Koisuru Chikara
Source: Nekokoi ~ Nekogami Samato Nekomimi no Tatari ~
Tags: Whirlpool houten8 Fiya
BPM: 176
Filesize: 5137kb
Play Time: 02:34
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (2.09 stars, 163 notes)
2. Fiya's Taiko Oni (4.94 stars, 778 notes)
3. houten8's Hard (4.83 stars, 329 notes)
4. Insane (5 stars, 539 notes)
5. Normal (4.18 stars, 213 notes)

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hard and Skin by houten8
Taiko by Fiya

thank you~

またまた好きな曲でのゲストのお誘い有難うございます

とりあえず型が出来たのどうぞ (´・ω・)っ「譜面」

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara (Mixagji) [Hard].osu

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara (Mixagji) [Hard].osu

arigato-!
really nice(^^)b

使うかどうかわかりませんが簡単なSkinをば
(´・ω・)っ「http://puu.sh/pRFu」

何も見えない画像は意味があるので使うなら一緒に入れて置いてください(´・ω・｀)

(´・ω・｀)b

　
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara (Mixagji) [Hard].osu

turn off 'Letterbox during breaks'?
offset -7~10?

Easy
00:08:551 (2) - shorten to 00:09:233 - and add a arrow will be nice
00:41:279 (2) - since you follow the melody with 00:42:472 (3) - , move it to 00:41:108 -
or move 00:42:472 (3) - to 00:42:642 -
00:45:029 (1) - this slider should start from downbeat, add a circle here and move this slider to 00:45:370 -
00:49:120 (2) - shorten to 00:49:801 - , and add a circle at 00:50:483 -
01:11:960 - remove the noisy finish
01:15:370 - finish
01:20:824 - finish
01:55:256 (3) - move to 01:55:426 -
01:55:938 (1) - same as 00:45:029 (1) -
02:00:029 (2) - x:200 y:208, surround 01:59:347 (1) -
02:22:870 - remove finish
02:27:301 (2,3) - do you really think this rhythm is ok now?

Normal
00:02:415 - add a circle
00:07:188 - finish
00:08:551 - finish
00:25:938 (5) - NC
00:43:835 - finish
00:49:290 - finish
00:49:972 (5) - finish
00:59:006 (1) - too close with spinner, it's pretty hard as a normal diff. spinner should ends at 00:59:006 - (finish as well) , and add a circle at 00:59:688 -
01:34:631 - and 01:39:915 - useless timing points
01:55:597 (4) - 1grid left(Tiny) will be more looks good
01:57:642 (1) - remove NC, like these 01:59:006 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

Hard
01:11:960 - set 'Kiai ends' with this timing point
add 'Whirlpool houten8' to tags

01:48:267 (1) - put down

hai

[General]
ほとんど表記上の問題だと思いますが、mp3のビットレートを192kbps以下に設定

「star2.png」のサイズが51*51ですが、デフォルトのスキンでは52*50なので少しだけサイズ調節をしておいたほうがいいかもしれません

「hitcircle.png」「hitcircleoverlay.png」に加えアプローチサークルの画像も追加する必要があるように思えます

slidertickとsliderslideを同時に無音にさせてしまうのはUnrankableです


[Easy]
同じプレイヤーが作っているのにこの難易度のみSilder Tick Rateを1.0にしているのはなぜ？


[Normal]
問題ありません


[Hard]
Whirlpool houten8のタグが抜けてます
またゲスト難易度であることがわかりにくいので、難易度名にプレイヤーの名前を入れたほうが良いのでは？

00:49:290 (7) - このスライダーの歪みが大きく、少し汚く感じました


[Insane]
問題ありません


譜面そのものには問題はほとんどありませんでした
ファイルに関しての指摘が主です

Ranked是非がんばってください！

>Star Stream
offset is keeping for now.
others all fixed.

>NewRulerNA
実質159kbpsにエンコされてます。なぜか表記だけ変更されません;_;
skinはほうてんさんに任せます！
easy上げ忘れてました。修正しました

hardはtagsだけ追加しておきました～


thank you for mod!

Mixagji wrote:

>NewRulerNA
実質159kbpsにエンコされてます。なぜか表記だけ変更されません;_;

159という数字が中途半端なのもあるので、160kbpsに変更したのを上げときます
http://puu.sh/ufuw
そのうち削除するので早めに落としておいてください

no kds

わざわざありがとうございますorz

Yo Mixagji ~~~~

General
This is my first mod that I have a "General" topic
Kiai time should end at 01:23:551 (1) - instead
maybe you can double kiai time at 01:23:551 (1) - or end at this point either
You should move followpoint.png to the middle of the pic (it's a bit right)

Easy
00:14:006 (3) - I can hear snare at the start of the slider, add clap :3
00:15:370 (1) - add finish will fit it better but whistle is also good either !
00:16:733 (3) - clap~ at the start
00:18:097 (1) - finish or whistle
00:19:460 (3) - clap
imo, you can improve your hitsound by ^ these in other point too ! you know it
00:36:506 (4) - add slider here and end at 00:36:847 , also remove (4) too
00:49:120 (2) - end at 00:49:972 will be better
00:53:551 (1) - move to 00:53:381 and end at 00:53:892

01:16:392 (2) - end at 01:17:245, It's same position with an accent voice


Normal
about hitsound , same as Easy diff~~
00:25:938 (1) - I think this slider will make better flow more than last one

452,140,25938,6,0,B|504:204|464:292,1,160,0|2

00:31:733 (1) - Tail almost touch this 00:32:926 (2) - , maybe moving its tail 1 grid down for better spacing like (2) between (3) will be better
01:04:290 (1) - ^ same above
02:03:097 (4) - move to x:308 y:180 for better spacing according to 02:02:074 (2,3) -


Hard
All of New Combo suggestion
00:36:506 (8) -
00:43:835 (7) -
01:16:563 (5) -
01:54:745 (5) -
02:23:722 (4) -
02:27:472 (5) -
01:01:563 (2) - end this slider at 01:01:733 and add note 01:01:904 (3) - maybe a good choice for this
02:12:301 (1) - same as above ^


Insane
ahh~~~~ nice xD
01:43:324 (3) - make it like this (add slider instead of note) , from test playing. It makes better flow, if you changed it to be a slider instead
also , you can improve some missing hitsounds such as
01:42:642 (1) - (clap at the start)
01:53:892 (4) - clap


Good luck for ranking ! Star~~

thanks for mod and star!
all fixed~

ちょっとPCの環境が変わったりとでごたごたしてて手付けずで遅くなりました

>Star Stream
Hard all fixed.

>NewRulerNA
General
こちらのstar2.pngのサイズ調整とapproachcircle.pngの追加しました
スライダー修正しましたが余計に汚くなってしまったかもしれません

>Frostmourne
Hard all fixed.

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara (Mixagji) [Hard].osu

upload!

\:D/

*Note: Bolded gold ones are things you must do (or strongly recommended; usually about unrankable stuff or extreme/fatal errors). Everything in red are things that look awkward/wrong to me or something that can be improved (subjective suggestions; you can follow my lead here or not); everything else are rants and minor suggestions to make things look cooler and a bit better.

>General

1. Add (Short Ver.) to the title? I'm sure enough there is a full version of this song.
2. You may want to capitalize the first 't' on the word 'tatari' @ Source.

>Easy

1. Set Slider Tick Rate to 1? Two is too high for me.
2. 00:08:551 (2,3) - You should make these sliders perfectly encircle each other, IMO.

>Normal

1. Lots of 3/2 beat-long sliders. Nothing wrong with them, but for me, it's pretty hard to differentiate between a 1/1 and 3/2 slider...
2. 00:15:370 (1,2,3) - Sudden change of the sliders' length here doesn't really fit with the song...
3. 00:18:097 (1,2,3) - ^

>Hard

1. Wait... Hard has a lesser amount of maximum combo than Normal. Maybe drop the Slider Tick Rate on Normal to 1?

>Insane

1. This diff is... uh... unplayable for me. Might be just me that sucks though.

Well, I can't really poke at lots of things. Hope that helped.

Good luck on the way

fixed only general things.
and changed to tr2 on Hard diff.

hi there

Easy:

02:03:097 (3) - (nazi) maybe make this a copy-paste of (2)?

Normal:

02:15:199 (3) - add NC?

Hard:

01:33:267 (4,5) - whistle on start?

Insane:

00:48:097 (9) - add NC?

nice map =w=

Hello!~ Here's my mod~ Sorry for being kinda late >< (a request from my queue)

• [General]

1. Music Track Lead-In: Change it from 0 to 1
   
   [Easy]
   Clear~
   
   [Normal]
2. 00:59:688 (1) - Delete this note.
3. 01:30:710 (2) - Remove whistle and put clap.
   
   [Hard]
4. 01:16:563 (1,2) - Replace the finishes on the end of these sliders with whistles.
5. 01:44:517 (5) - Remove clap.
   
   [Insane]
   Clear~

That's all~ Just some short mod, I wasn't able to see much for being too good
Nice map and good luck~ :3

Hi
from Fang Team's Queue
Let's mod

Red : must fix(Unrankable)
Bold : should fix

[General]

Uncheck Letterbox during breaks.I want to see full image.(ignore)

[Easy]

Why don't you stuff hitsound, 00:50:483 - ~ 00:55:256 - ? sound is boring._.
-same others
good map :3

[Normal]

02:14:006 - ~ 02:17:585 - why don't use Clap?
good map, too '3'

[Hard]

00:09:915 (7) - change arrow timing to 00:10:426 - this? and add note 00:11:108 - here. if you fix it, beat is more good.
i can't find problem. '^'

[Insane]

OD -1?
01:07:699 (3,4,5,6) - I played it, confusion this notes. fix plz? i want to more playable maps
02:07:188 (1) - this note is covered by 02:06:165 this note's hitbuster. can you fix it?


yo~ very good map :3

Star~

Have a good time

>Hinsvar
>pieguy1372
>Kirino Kousaka
>Dark Fang

Hard all fixed.

thanks mod

Download: NANA - Koisuru Chikara (Mixagji) [Hard].osu

houten8 wrote:

>Hinsvar
>pieguy1372
>Kirino Kousaka
>Dark Fang

Hard all fixed.

thanks mod

upload~

another 2 star for being mod from this topic ! t/63572

Good Luck Mixagji~~~

Frostmourne wrote:

another 2 star for being mod from this topic ! t/63572

Good Luck Mixagji~~~

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you veryyyyyy much>.<!!!!!!!!

well~ It high quality map
call me back when you fixed it~

all fixed~
waiting for houten8
thank you for mod!

houtenさんのはSliderBorderってのだけ追加しておいたのでまた更新してから修正お願いします

Edit:hard is only stack things. so fixed by myside
all diffs are fixed~

don't give me kd~
k~call me back when you fixed those~

Edit: Irc mod

my first bubble~>~<
Joy your bubble~

thank you very much!

aww it got bubbled. sorry about my lazyness. i wasn't feeling well for the past 2 days and i went somewhere for the weekend

never mind

I'm really surprised that you still wanted my diff even after you got bubble, thank you ;_;

http://puu.sh/yKF9 <-- Diff + BG in here

np ^^b

spboxer3 wrote:

※ Notice

red is unrankable issue.
blue is recommended to fix.
Black is just suggestion.

:idea: general

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting/general issue.)
  

1. Inconsistency in Source: [Fiya's Taiko Oni] Oops, fixed.
2. missed BG: taikobg.jpg please check you have add this BG in your file and full updata it. Mixagji forgot to full submit with the BG xD

Taiko

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  

1. 00:12:642 - over used SV speed. 1.4*1.4=1.96 Sorry, I really like to play fast speed ups so I tend to use them a lot now. Changed all the 1.4x to 1.2 lol
   

   Taiko Rules Ver.1.0.3 wrote:

   Slider Velocity
   The Slider Velocity should be 1.40 or 1.60.

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:06:847 (5,6,7,8,9) - try to use kdddk/kddkk? Changed to kdddk, but also changed the next note to don because I think it flows now that the note before is a kat.
2. 00:07:529 (1) - shoud d it's better? ((about high/low pitch Yes it is better now that the stream is changed.
3. 00:22:017 (8,9,10,11) - D D D D/ K K K K? ((same as pitch issue. Playing four of the same finish in a row at 1/2 has rarely ever feels right when playing to me, sorry.
4. 01:00:199 (18,19,20,21) - same as 00:22:017 (8,9,10,11) - Same answer again sorry orz.
5. 00:57:472 (8) - [suggestion] add 1 note (d) ? Even though it was unintentional of me, now that max combo is 777 I'd rather not change it lol.
6. 01:17:585 (32,33,34,35) - feel like D d k D is better? Sure, changed.
7. 01:32:926 (8,9,10,11) - same as 00:22:017 (8,9,10,11) - Again, sorry.
8. 02:08:381 - if you add a d for 00:57:472 (8) - you must add d to this pattern too. I didn't before, so not added.
9. 02:22:017 (28,29,30,31) - same as 00:22:017 (8,9,10,11) - Orz, sorry, but same reason as before.

Recommendations:

1. Custom combo colours
   Custom combo colours do not really matter to taiko as they will be overwritten in actual gameplay. The case is the same with combo numbering, but you may wish to use the numbering to mark out red/blue notes visually within edit mode (assuming no custom colours have been set), this would make modding for other people easier and could make mapping easier:
   

I know it is recommended, but I don't like to do that because then when you want to go back and change a note or two you have to fix all of the combos after it for them to be the right color again. This just seems tedious to me so I don't do it.

Thanks so much for the mod Sp3, and I'm sorry for popping your first bubble like that orz.

http://puu.sh/yLlv

k~looks all fine now~re-bubble my first bubble

Xgor's random Bubble check!

Well I found some stuff.. nothing unrankible as far as I know but big enough for me to bug me out and wanting it to be fixed.

1. You have no skin for the the hit circle numbers. While it's not unrankible it does look odd when you have a skin...
   
2. The usage of slider tick hitsounds are very inconstant. Sometimes you use it at every tick other white tick that is on sliders and sometimes you don't. A good example of that is on Normal when you use tick hitsounds all the time on the first verse yet none on the second verse. Please make them conistant
   
3. Also on the taiko difficulty the first kiai is pretty odd as it isn't on a chorus and on the other you add that part even if it isn't in a chorus. I suggest you remove the first kiai time section and make the second end at 01:23:551 - and the third at 02:34:631 -

Yo!
[General]
The soft-hitnormal sounds feel far far too soft in comparison to the music and the custom hitsound used. It makes it feel like there are gaps in your hitsounding -everywhere- I recommend you rethink how you used hitsounds in this and adjust accordingly.

[Easy]
00:05:654 (1,2) - The problem with using such a slow slider velocity combined with very low distance snap is that spacing like this is very difficult to read. You -have- to look at the approach circle instead of being able to intuit the spacing. I really recommend you tone this part down, especially since this is an Easy. Also remove new combo here.
00:08:551 (2,3) - Same thing going on with the spacing here. It looks nice, but the rhythm is difficult to read when everything is this close together.
00:10:426 (3) - Remove new combo
00:31:733 (3) - New combo
00:32:926 (1) - remove new combo
00:39:404 (3) - I really don't recommend using these types of short sliders in an Easy - especially when you have notes so soon after them.
00:47:074 (1) - remove new combo
01:48:438 (1,2) - This rhythm is really awkward. Maybe try something like this?

01:57:983 (1) - Remove new combo

[Hard]
02:00:029 (1) - Remove new combo
02:16:563 (6,7) - I wish you put these soft whistle sounds in the Normal and Easy.
02:22:017 - I really wanted a hit object here to click
02:22:699 (1) - It also leads to this pattern being misplaced since the new combo should start at 02:23:040 (2) - or 02:23:551 -
02:27:472 (1) - Remove new combo
02:31:733 (1) - This part plays weird since the emphasis is placed on the wrong beats. It should be more like this:


[Taiko]
00:12:642 - Kiai really needed here? It's probably best to leave it at the chorus'
00:38:040 (17,18,19) - ddk sounds better

[Insane]
00:09:063 (2) - Repeat arrow is being covered by the hitburst from 00:07:870 (2) -
00:10:512 (5) - Delete
You know, there are a lot of unnecessary 1/4 rhythms throughout this entire map. Look through and see what you can find. Try to have some musical justification for having them. Right now most of them are there just to add difficulty which really doesn't represent the music well.
Also check your new combo use. Try to line it up with how you used them in the Hard and Normal difficulties. Right now they're inconsistent and kinda weird.

Don't forget to address Xgors musings as well!

Xgor wrote:

Xgor's random Bubble check!

Well I found some stuff.. nothing unrankible as far as I know but big enough for me to bug me out and wanting it to be fixed.

1. You have no skin for the the hit circle numbers. While it's not unrankible it does look odd when you have a skin... I don't think so...orz
   
2. The usage of slider tick hitsounds are very inconstant. Sometimes you use it at every tick other white tick that is on sliders and sometimes you don't. A good example of that is on Normal when you use tick hitsounds all the time on the first verse yet none on the second verse. Please make them conistant yes, improved them on Easy and Normal. Maybe they have become good.....

Thanks.

Garven wrote:

Yo!
[General]
The soft-hitnormal sounds feel far far too soft in comparison to the music and the custom hitsound used. It makes it feel like there are gaps in your hitsounding -everywhere- I recommend you rethink how you used hitsounds in this and adjust accordingly. uhh The present hitosounding is enough good for me so it's hard orz

[Easy]
00:05:654 (1,2) - The problem with using such a slow slider velocity combined with very low distance snap is that spacing like this is very difficult to read. You -have- to look at the approach circle instead of being able to intuit the spacing. I really recommend you tone this part down, especially since this is an Easy. Also remove new combo here. fixed
00:08:551 (2,3) - Same thing going on with the spacing here. It looks nice, but the rhythm is difficult to read when everything is this close together. fixed

00:10:426 (3) - Remove new combo fixed
00:31:733 (3) - New combo fixed
00:32:926 (1) - remove new combo fixed
00:39:404 (3) - I really don't recommend using these types of short sliders in an Easy - especially when you have notes so soon after them. fixed
00:47:074 (1) - remove new combo fixed
01:48:438 (1,2) - This rhythm is really awkward. Maybe try something like this? fixed

01:57:983 (1) - Remove new combo fixed

[Insane]
00:09:063 (2) - Repeat arrow is being covered by the hitburst from 00:07:870 (2) - fixed
00:10:512 (5) - Delete no
You know, there are a lot of unnecessary 1/4 rhythms throughout this entire map. Look through and see what you can find. Try to have some musical justification for having them. Right now most of them are there just to add difficulty which really doesn't represent the music well.
Also check your new combo use. Try to line it up with how you used them in the Hard and Normal difficulties. Right now they're inconsistent and kinda weird. Tried to improve them on Normal and Insane. Hard is houten's guest diff so they are fine imo, and changed diff name~

thank you for mod
waiting others.

Garven wrote:

[Taiko]
00:12:642 - Kiai really needed here? It's probably best to leave it at the chorus' Removed the first one, but kept the one after the kiai.
00:38:040 (17,18,19) - ddk sounds better Done, and for the repeat of this section as well

Thanks Garven o/

http://puu.sh/UQzG

Hard diff was fixed by me orz

Garven wrote:

[Hard]
02:00:029 (1) - Remove new combo fixed
02:16:563 (6,7) - I wish you put these soft whistle sounds in the Normal and Easy. fixed
02:22:017 - I really wanted a hit object here to click
02:22:699 (1) - It also leads to this pattern being misplaced since the new combo should start at 02:23:040 (2) - or 02:23:551 - fixed
02:27:472 (1) - Remove new combo fixed
02:31:733 (1) - This part plays weird since the emphasis is placed on the wrong beats. It should be more like this fixed

update~

活動再開したんですね、すみません次からHardの方はちゃんとします
後スキンの方は全部作ってあるんだけどどうしようか迷ってるのでアレだったら全部スキンを削除してもらってもOKです。

細々と続けてましたよ！
まだリチェック来てないのでそれまでにできるなら今からでもそちらで修正お願いします。前回の分のもあったと思うのでorz
スキンは今のままで行かせてもらいます！

[Hard]
02:19:972 (7) - This part is really strange to play since the rhythm is off compared to what you mapped before. Try a rhythm like this:

FIXED!!! thx!!!

Rebubbled!

なんか色々すみません
Hard手直しまた出来なくて・・・
バブルも付いたみたいなのでもう自分で手直ししたマップの方では再度アップしないようにします

せかせかして申し訳ないですorz

If there's something else houten wants to fix up, I'm willing to check again after the update. Just let me know. :3

ん～マップの手直しアップしても大丈夫そうでしょうかね？
もし大丈夫なら
puu.sh/Ym9T
前見たくファイルのアップがどうもできないのでこちらに

>Garven
Really thanks!!! orz

>houten8
すいません！
ありがとうございますorz

uploaded

Rebubbled~

[Easy]
02:06:506 - feels like there should be a note here

[Normal]
02:15:199 (1) - move this up 1 grid and left 2 in order to make it blanket properly

[houten]
looks good

[Taiko]
00:03:097 - lacking a note on the downbeat is a little odd

[Insane]
00:03:608 (6) - why is the 5-6 spacing so different from the 4-5 spacing?
00:05:483 (6) - ^
its really best if you try to keep the same spacing within a combo barring exceptional circumstances like symmetrical patterns, musical climaxes, etc
00:11:449 (2,3,4,5) - idk what this spacing is supposed to be but it looks and plays like a waterfall of bricks
00:14:688 (8,9) - space these like 6-7 for consistency please
00:16:563 (4,5,6) - erm you do know what spacing is right? the little numbers in the top right hand corner that tell you how far apart notes are distance-wise relative to how much time is between them? your map will really be much better if you can follow them for the most part, instead of making players rely on a high AR to be able to read your map. Spacing changes are ok at appropriate times but putting them everywhere is like putting a cup of cloves into your pie because you like cloves. It'll just drown everything else out and end up tasting horrid.
00:35:654 (7) - move this 1 grid higher to avoid overlap with 5, or alternately space it across from 6 so that 4-5-6-7 makes a parallelogram:http://puu.sh/14m0m
00:42:301 (8) - space 7-8 the same as 6-7 please
01:07:529 (2) - move this to make a parallelogram with 3-4-5: http://puu.sh/14m1e
01:29:006 (1) - again with the parallelogram, this time with 10-11-12
01:53:892 (4) - can you find a place for this that isn't partially covered by hitbursts?
02:06:847 (5,6) - move these up to make a rhombus? http://puu.sh/14m2H
Also I know you can do both proper spacing and proper lack of spacing from seeing the other diffs and the rest of this map, so please apply it to the entire thing, thanks <3