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James
what did you do with these people?!?
Jinxy
Lol i wanna try James Training.

And im rank one-five-two-two-nine.

XD dont worry i have insurance.

eh.. where do dl?


EDIT
I finally found it.
I fooled around by playing "catch the beat" on Chikara.
I ALMOST LOST IT.
dang James Training is hard.
Zatoichi
James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.
Jinxy

Zatoichi wrote:

James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.
"I fooled around"
CtB is easier, so i figured, try it before braking my fingers in normal.

EDIT: Whats an Etna Slider?
AND What mouse do those people who SSed James Training use!!??! i was like WTF when i watched those replays, please reply
DeathxShinigami

JInxyjem wrote:

Zatoichi wrote:

James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.
"I fooled around"
CtB is easier, so i figured, try it before braking my fingers in normal.

EDIT: Whats an Etna Slider?
AND What mouse do those people who SSed James Training use!!??! i was like WTF when i watched those replays, please reply
Seen any of my CTB records yet? Also Etna sliders are super short sliders that continuously pop out and never seem to stop. And the also they appear in songs like Girugumesh - Break Down and Nickelback - Animals?

Also I use a Light Lazer mouse myself. works perfectly and is very easy to control. =P
srrwb
James training helped me go from failing breakdown to beating emptiness and on ultimate :D ( ladysuburu made me post this)
adamskii_uk
Real James Training = James Training with Double Time :)
Jinxy

adamskii_uk wrote:

Real James Training = James Training with Double Time :)
That sounds more like breaking every muscle of your body.

(And i only need to jump 2.5k more ranks to start James Training, without the Double Time.)
Eleeleth
I was going to post something here about my improved anger management, but then i broke my keyboard playing emptiness and.

Yeah. >.>
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Ivalset
Emptiness And was a great map. RIP your keyboard, though,
Eleeleth
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Jeffro

JInxyjem wrote:

adamskii_uk wrote:

Real James Training = James Training with Double Time :)
That sounds more like breaking every muscle of your body.

(And i only need to jump 2.5k more ranks to start James Training, without the Double Time.)
I started James training after I did one of the easiest maps on osu!

And it took me like 2 weeks and I got better. And then did a lot of maps and came back to james training and I suddenly fc'ed all of those maps XD
Sorr0w_old
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Ivalset
There's, uhhh, "Pokebis" training somewhere. I'll edit this post with a link to it sometime.

Edit: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5456

A couple things to mention:
1) The difference between these two training regimen is huge.

2) James Training doesn't really have a minimum required skill level, it's basically just "play this map and maps similar to it until you get better". For some reason, these maps are sickeningly effective at drilling skill into the heads of those who decide to play them.
Jinxy
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awp
They've taken the James Training course and passed it, that's all.
Jeffro
I took me more then 300 tries to S Chikara.

That was about the 2nd beatmap I played on osu! XD
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Ivalset
See what happens after trying Chikara or Love Shine after 300 tries.

You should be significantly better.
lukewarmholiday
See what happens after trying (insert hard map here) after 300 tries

You should be significantly better.
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Ivalset
God dammit luke, stop spoiling the secrets to James Training.
James
New training: look at my sig.
Results: pro mouse control. master the skill Rage.

edit: practice playing here.
Jinxy

James wrote:

New training: look at my sig.
I used to play osu with that. Whats wrong with it?

(Now in 1800 dpi infared sweetness.)
James
you used to play with it? come on~
Jinxy
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Wojjan
I tried some James training. It did not help at all. Why is it so?
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Ivalset
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Wojjan

Wojjan wrote:

I tried some James training. It did not help at all.
If this is a "you'll see an effect in 7 months" scam, count me out.

ALSO: you don't see them on my most played 'cause I don't play them ranked. I'm not insane to play the same thing 200 times and see my accuracy drain by 20%
0_o
Only your best play in each difficulty goes toward your accuracy...

Anyway, I haven't done extensive James training, but Love Shine in particular has been great practice for me (it's not in my top plays but it's tied with Shake It at the bottom of the list)
Jinxy

Wojjan wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

I tried some James training. It did not help at all.
If this is a "you'll see an effect in 7 months" scam, count me out.

ALSO: you don't see them on my most played 'cause I don't play them ranked. I'm not insane to play the same thing 200 times and see my accuracy drain by 20%
Coward. And max or something three weeks, not seven months.



Anyway,
Does anybody know which is the easiest James Training map?

I D'ed everything except for only one C.


EDIT: Guess dat C. I bet you wont find it in 3 tries.


EDIT 2: I used nofail, sue me.
Nactra
i would say that peace and love shine are the easiest.
Ryohan
Hmm... At least I've passed this training T___T
Now.. Must to do every Gojou Kai ;<
carver_old
Personally I found Love Shine not to be anywhere near as hard as the rest. In fact, until I read this thread, I did not realize it was part of the James Training, despite being by Be4U XD.
bagnz0r
So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena :P
I can't pass even one song.
anonymous_old
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bagnz0r

strager wrote:

BagnoGamer wrote:

So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena :P
I can't pass even one song.
Isn't the point of James Training to have you trained to pass these songs? =]

I can pass each easily now, usually with a B. Working on FC'ing each. I play once or twice of each map per day at the moment.

EDIT: WOOT! Just S'd BreakDown. <3
EDIT again: WOOT!! Just S'd PEACE as well. <3<3
I can SS all of them in CtB mode.
DeathxShinigami

BagnoGamer wrote:

strager wrote:

BagnoGamer wrote:

So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena :P
I can't pass even one song.
Isn't the point of James Training to have you trained to pass these songs? =]

I can pass each easily now, usually with a B. Working on FC'ing each. I play once or twice of each map per day at the moment.

EDIT: WOOT! Just S'd BreakDown. <3
EDIT again: WOOT!! Just S'd PEACE as well. <3<3
I can SS all of them in CtB mode.
"You" suck. Get a life.=[
James
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illuminist
Thank you very much, James xD

I have a bad skill on osu and often break my own combos during some hard part.

It's time to exercise~♫
James
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Jinxy
Does James Training work in No Fail mod?
anonymous_old

JInxyjem wrote:

Does James Training work in No Fail mod?
James Training is just playing maps until you can FC them.

If you need to train using NoFail, do so. You should get to a point where you don't need it. Just keep training until you reach a FC on each map.
Jinxy
I can C half of the JT maps with nofail and not use NoFail on Red Rocket Rising (Almost died on the ending jumps)

Yay..?
kuwarudo
I will now try this Training regime. Tomorrow. I'm supposed to be sleeping now WAITING
Destro
Well, either I must be totally badass at Osu! or these songs are easier than I expected. I was getting ready for some super-hard songs that god knows who could beat them, let alone FC them, but I passed every one of them on the first try with an average of 93% accuracy... I guess playing all those IOSYS and 90% of DJPop's songs on Hard for my first four weeks until I passed them with at least an A, did more for me than I had expected.

EDIT: Is it just me or are some parts in Red Rocket Rising really weirdly timed? My accuracy seems to be going lower on that song the more I play it :x
anonymous_old

Destroyer224 wrote:

EDIT: Is it just me or are some parts in Red Rocket Rising really weirdly timed? My accuracy seems to be going lower on that song the more I play it :x
If that's the one with the spinners, then yeah. For me I get pretty good accuracy for all the songs in James Training. No real timing problems.
Hanyuu
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Starrodkirby86
Just get the Secret Seven albums, the Gojou Kai ones. I'm sure those would be a modernized James version (With an Al-Azif too).
Hanyuu
Oh yeah <_< (higan no tsuka arghhh). But you are right they could be seen as another training pack :D i could only FC 2 songs i think, very hard
jammerro
ohh shit... i know i sound noobishh now, but i just completed two of the james training maps o.O I actually think im getting better! Thanks James! lol :P
Mukku
Sheet... 6k rank dude is better than me :D I cant pass any of these maps.. I tried each map like 3 times alrdy.

Well I will spam em more tomorrow :d


Edit. Oh I passed all D: It just took few more tries after all. Gotta fc em.
jammerro
shit nigga... im the noob here.. after having completed all the james training maps, i actually thought james training was over o.O But no, i gotta fc all of them... James training is good, but i kinda feel anally raped..

guys give me some advice please... how am i supposed to fc all the songs? o.O
Derekku

jammerro wrote:

guys give me some advice please... how am i supposed to fc all the songs? o.O
Practice.
Topic Starter
Ivalset

JInxyjem wrote:

I can C half of the JT maps with nofail and not use NoFail on Red Rocket Rising (Almost died on the ending jumps)

Yay..?
Despite what scrubs may have told you, no fail doesn't count for anything.

If you can't fail, it isn't James Training.

Also, due to how rhythm games get harder over time, this is at best an intermediate training course. It won't prepare you for much past that anymore.
Gabi
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James
gojou kai maps are not training, it just looks like one.

and i just realized that this "training map" is really a training map.

just when these maps are finished at that time... all other maps are not equal to the hardness of these 6 maps.

so i guess i can really call these bunch of maps... training.
jammerro
james training i thank you once more! Today i fc'ed my first beforu map, and on top of that, i completed Twister (subarashiki mix)on ultimate! All because of james training.. Theres a reason why james is world famous :P
Nachy
I FC'd all of them about a week ago but took me a lot of tries but still succeeded, really helped a lot, I can do jumps really great now, and my spinning also improved to 350-400 RPM on average. Now all I need to do is improve my tapping accuracy, I still get a lot of 100s and 50s on maps.
Lucidity
Lol, what's the difference between taking any collection of maps and practicing them over and over and doing the same with these BeForU maps? In the end practicing the same maps over and over will only help you with ... wait for it ... those specific maps. In my opinion the key to improving is to diversify. Play as many maps as you can. (And FC them) Playing different maps and learning how to read notes fast is better than learning obscure patterns that only occur in one map imo.

If you're having trouble with a certain aspect of the game (Jumps, streams etc) then there are better maps to help with that and it would be more advantageous to focus your training on those areas instead of restricting yourself to maps by 1 random artist ? ;p

I realise that this thread was started in jest almost (or wasn't it?), but people seem to be taking it really seriously nowadays. These maps don't have magical capabilities. You would get the same results if you played other (quality) maps as well :P osu! is all about practice. As long as you play maps that you aren't fully comfortable with you will improve :P

One also has to remember that these maps aren't nearly as hard now as they were a year ago (On a relative scale) :P

Setting up gameplay specific training packs would be better imo. A specialised pack for jumps, a separate pack for deathstreams etc.
Jinxy
After JT, I have passed both RRR(Combo break on jumps) and Himawari(Regular combo breaks). Still failing on the rest though...

To all skeptics(If there is still some): James Training has proven to be by far the most useful osu training pack ever.
Plus, you break your keyboard and mouse so you can buy better ones!
Lucidity

JInxyjem wrote:

To all skeptics(If there is still some): James Training has proven to be by far the most useful osu training pack ever.
How many others have there been to compare with? :P
Skya
Off to try and beat this thing... even though I'm only ranked in the 6000 (but that's because I quit songs before the last beat if I don't FC them and I only ever play the same songs XD )
llKite
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Skya
I don't think I'll ever be able to do it after all, I'll give up for now. By the way ||Kite, Back then, the greatest shock to our reality was... ...that our lives were so primitive and simplistic it was laughing in our faces.
:)
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Ivalset
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Jinxy

Ivalset wrote:

Succumb to the will of James.
What will? I came in here myself.
Topic Starter
Ivalset
That's what James wants you to think.
lukewarmholiday
Are you implying james wants us to think
Topic Starter
Ivalset
He wants you to think you think.
lukewarmholiday

Ivalset wrote:

He wants you to think you think.
Oh dear
llKite
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Zekira

Ivalset wrote:

He wants you to think you think.
But I don't think I think that he thinks...
Derekku
lolz I finally did JT today~ yay easy FCs <3
Lucidity

Ivalset wrote:

This thread is a serious joke, stop trying to be a rebel just because you got here late. Succumb to the will of James.

Lucidity wrote:

I realise that this thread was started in jest almost (or wasn't it?), but people seem to be taking it really seriously nowadays.
Put a disclaimer in or something :P People really do take this seriously and waste their time playing songs that should never leave a gay man's closet D:
James
No beforu maps = no maps with (intentional) jumps for the whole history of osu.
no jumps = no mouse control
no mouse control = craptastic player

just FYI, did not really care about this thread. but i gotten better after mapping/testing/playing these maps.



and why people are taking this seriously? its already obvious on page 1
Kennjin
I always thought new players should start with easy songs first and than going for the hard ones.......
But i´ll give it a try because u learn more from failing than from winning, am i right ;) :?:
Topic Starter
Ivalset

Lucidity wrote:

Put a disclaimer in or something

Ivalset wrote:

Are you terribad at osu? Mousing skill not fast enough? Trouble with triplets? Etna Sliders? Annoying spacing? Well, we've got the solution for you. Known to the masses as the "BeForU pack 1", we present to you...James Training.

Surgeon General's Warning: Not recommended to newcomers/people below rank #2000 and Lucidity, honestly.
I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
RemmyX25

Ivalset wrote:

I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
I'm pretty sure you can with a bit of hax.
Lucidity

Ivalset wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Put a disclaimer in or something

Ivalset wrote:

Are you terribad at osu? Mousing skill not fast enough? Trouble with triplets? Etna Sliders? Annoying spacing? Well, we've got the solution for you. Known to the masses as the "BeForU pack 1", we present to you...James Training.

Surgeon General's Warning: Not recommended to newcomers/people below rank #2000 and Lucidity, honestly.
I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
I didn't mean a difficulty warning...People don't seem to realise that the OP was made in jest.

People who take this thread seriously should just know that the maps don't contain magical properties :P It sounds like some people feel obligated to play these maps in order to improve instead of playing other maps they might enjoy more :P Thing is, the community has grown a lot, and 90% of the people who read this thread now don't read it in context ;p

btw, I love (most of) your maps James :P But what was revolutionary a year ago isn't anymore :P
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Ivalset
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Lucidity
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Jinxy
I demand prefer if the second warning was removed.

Lucidity wrote:

People don't seem to realise that the OP was made in jest.
This thread looks like its made in jest, but it isn't. Just like how you looked like a jester in BM1 and turned out townie.

James Training may not be the only training programme anymore, but it has worked, and has a higher rate of effectiveness than any other training. (Provided you are not a noob.)

People should read the huge red "Below #2000" on the 1st post. If not, they deserve getting owned.

Maybe the thread could ask you to play other maps in red text, and come back when you are #2300>.

I refuse to see the path to glory ruined.
Zekira
I didn't even finish JT but I can pretty much say I've gotten good. Actually, the only thing I took seriously was Love Shine and there I go off to raise my rank until 800 (now dropping back to 900s...)
Azure_Kite
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Ephemeral
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Nachy
The pain is just a sign saying it's working.
Topic Starter
Ivalset

Ephemeral wrote:

Before James training, I was rank #2300 and was unable to complete triplet streams without furious rage.

Now, look at the difference!

I'm still rank #2300~ except my wrist is really goddamn sore and I don't feel like playing osu for a week because of it. ;_;
Obviously you failed at James Training.
Nachy

Ivalset wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

Before James training, I was rank #2300 and was unable to complete triplet streams without furious rage.

Now, look at the difference!

I'm still rank #2300~ except my wrist is really goddamn sore and I don't feel like playing osu for a week because of it. ;_;
Obviously you failed at James Training.

JamesTraining wrote:

each failure is a stitch of progress. Soon you'll be passing that map
?
Zekira
Nacho WINS!
Wojjan
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LavendarChocolate
:? I am so bored. I just play every song with no fail my eyes&memory is getting better though ;) accuracy is another story :cry: :?
Exidus
Ouch, these maps are made for pain...Best I could get for the moment is a B on Red Rocket....Try some more later! :D
Jeffro
Now we need a continueing James training. Those maps are too easy when you're used to it. I want to do approved songs good and stuff :)
Gabi
here is a tip, keep playing the approved maps, you're bound to fc one of them after a thousand tries, the same way you tried with this training pack

then again it wouldn't hurt with some new james maps
James
i should close this crap. haha


dam u ivalset XD
Topic Starter
Ivalset
I'm actually surprised it's still around and that people still use this.

You should make another set of ridiculous beatmaps James. Next time I won't tag your name onto it, hahaha.
Ephemeral
It is kind of stickied.

People sort of don't have the choice whether they'd like to forget about it or not.

8-)
Topic Starter
Ivalset
People don't read stickied threads just because they're stickied.

They read this because it has James on it.
James

Ivalset wrote:

I'm actually surprised it's still around and that people still use this.

You should make another set of ridiculous beatmaps James. Next time I won't tag your name onto it, hahaha.
i cant even map properly anymore... :(
varq
James Training Part 2 = Gojou Kai?
aston_old
yay, 23 misses to 11 misses within 12 minutes :>
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