I think he was just thinking he could use his Ipad as a tablet PC monitor for osu. There is probably a jailbroken mod with it, but your not supposed to jailbreak it so yea.kriers wrote:
what in the world has that got to do with the heroic battle between mouse and tablet?
And no. You can play osu!stream, though.
What's with all the 1-posting derps around?
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A manufacturer has no right telling you what you can and can't do with your device.Mithost wrote:
There is probably a jailbroken mod with it, but your not supposed to jailbreak it so yea.kriers wrote:
Disregard if you were just warning they could be blocked/disconnected, etc. Because they have the ability to do that although they shouldn't be able to.
JUST got a tablet after maybe a year of mouse + x/y from keyboard. Spent about 1 day getting used to it and tuning it my comfort zone. All I gotta say is, imo it's easier than mouse. I set up a small zone on it so my cursor moves quickly as if on high sensitivity, then I just treat it like a mouse but in pen form. The only reason I switched was because for songs with 750+ notes I always somehow seem to run out of room with my mouse and then I mess up because I don't get time to adjust it back into place on insane + higher skill lvl songs, but not at all with this tablet, it's awesome. Oh and spinning is hella easier, I'm a wide spinner with a mouse and can do over 400 pretty easily i just have to use hella arm force so it gets tiring, but for this tablet i just draw little quick O's around the middle which woul be hard as hell to do with a mouse, but easy with a tablet ^.^
*Edit* It has now been 2 days, I've went back to songs I've gotten A's on, and S'ed them if not double Ss'ed HELL i've even silver double ss a 5 star song on hidden which i didn't try before with a mouse. Besides the earlier things I stated, I'd say the biggest improvement I've seen using the tablet, is how much smoother my cursor flows, I overjump notes little to never now and it's sooooo much smoother.
On a side note, I'm a little scared, it's been about 2 days now and the portion i downsized my screen to for the tablet has already been scratched off a bit because i drag the pen rather than hover, i only pick up and hover to jump, though dragging us just as easy without hover.
*Edit* It has now been 2 days, I've went back to songs I've gotten A's on, and S'ed them if not double Ss'ed HELL i've even silver double ss a 5 star song on hidden which i didn't try before with a mouse. Besides the earlier things I stated, I'd say the biggest improvement I've seen using the tablet, is how much smoother my cursor flows, I overjump notes little to never now and it's sooooo much smoother.
On a side note, I'm a little scared, it's been about 2 days now and the portion i downsized my screen to for the tablet has already been scratched off a bit because i drag the pen rather than hover, i only pick up and hover to jump, though dragging us just as easy without hover.
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SoulessDespair wrote:
JUST got a tablet after maybe a year of mouse + x/y from keyboard. Spent about 1 day getting used to it and tuning it my comfort zone. All I gotta say is, imo it's easier than mouse. I set up a small zone on it so my cursor moves quickly as if on high sensitivity, then I just treat it like a mouse but in pen form. The only reason I switched was because for songs with 750+ notes I always somehow seem to run out of room with my mouse and then I mess up because I don't get time to adjust it back into place on insane + higher skill lvl songs, but not at all with this tablet, it's awesome. Oh and spinning is hella easier, I'm a wide spinner with a mouse and can do over 400 pretty easily i just have to use hella arm force so it gets tiring, but for this tablet i just draw little quick O's around the middle which woul be hard as hell to do with a mouse, but easy with a tablet ^.^
*Edit* It has now been 2 days, I've went back to songs I've gotten A's on, and S'ed them if not double Ss'ed HELL i've even silver double ss a 5 star song on hidden which i didn't try before with a mouse. Besides the earlier things I stated, I'd say the biggest improvement I've seen using the tablet, is how much smoother my cursor flows, I overjump notes little to never now and it's sooooo much smoother.
On a side note, I'm a little scared, it's been about 2 days now and the portion i downsized my screen to for the tablet has already been scratched off a bit because i drag the pen rather than hover, i only pick up and hover to jump, though dragging us just as easy without hover.
I used to be the same as you, hovering felt pretty much impossible, but after forcing to do it for a while, it went way better as dragging, and since im hovering i cant drag it anymore
I think I'll go ahead and get a tablet. I've got a tax return to burn.
Strangely I feel more comfortable using mouse than tablet,spinning with mouse is nothing to me.
Spinning is RIDICULOUSLY easy on a tablet. I can outspin most of the players in the entire game at this point (had tablet around 1 month). (sadly that's about all I can say lol) Granted I wasn't bad at mouse spinning either but drawing little circles on the tablet is super easy orz.
Though I'm thinking this is maybe because of how i use the tablet, which is 90% wrist 10% fingers 0% arm
Still have another month of at least 2k plays to get through before my skill level is close to what I want on the tablet ><.
Though I'm thinking this is maybe because of how i use the tablet, which is 90% wrist 10% fingers 0% arm
Still have another month of at least 2k plays to get through before my skill level is close to what I want on the tablet ><.
emonite wrote:
spinning with mouse is nothing to me.
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Right now I'm using a mouse mainly because I don't have a tablet atm. I tried it when my friend let me borrow hers and I thought it was fun ^^
Personally I don't see a "skill' difference between using the 2, they both have advantages and disadvantages. It all comes down to what you're more comfortable playing with, but that's just my opinion. Getting a tablet because you think it'll make you pro is just stupid.
Personally I don't see a "skill' difference between using the 2, they both have advantages and disadvantages. It all comes down to what you're more comfortable playing with, but that's just my opinion. Getting a tablet because you think it'll make you pro is just stupid.
qftismAILDo5 wrote:
Personally I don't see a "skill' difference between using the 2, they both have advantages and disadvantages. It all comes down to what you're more comfortable playing with, but that's just my opinion. Getting a tablet because you think it'll make you pro is just stupid.
I once thought I wouldn't get a tablet as $50-150 was a waste for one use but that tax return money needs to be burned.Zelmarked wrote:
Personally I have trouble calling mouse or m+kb as more skilled/harder. While it is not as easy as tablet, it like on a different level of hard.
It's not that tablets are "easier" in a general sense, so much as they are just more efficient at conveying the message you are thinking, to the game. I think tablet players should be compared to other tablet players, mouse to mouse, m/kb to m/kb. There's far too many semantics involved when trying to comparing say a 16 mil scoring mouse only player to a 20 mill scoring tablet player. Preferably, if networking resources are not an issue, have separate scores for all peripherals.
There's no bias here. I am a M/KB player who thinks that there is just not a necessity to call the "harder" peripheral as a better player. We should be promoting the most efficient means of playing, not going backwards for the stake of a "challenge". Although it is important to note that most, such as myself, might not want to buy a $50-$70 device that has one use to them.
I'm having trouble articulating my argument but one way to summarize is that mouse or m/kb is a more inefficient option compared to tablet, and that inefficiency does not translate directly to more challenge. That a bad player could be just plainly a bad player but look better under the fact he's using an inefficient peripheral. And that there's too many semantics involved in trying to cross compare users of different peripherals.
Tablet? Only if your aim is to do impossible maps with good acc. Not-so-skilled players will find tablet just a bit more comfortable in most cases, and that's all. Remember, If you switch from mouse to tablet, you will suck after switching it back to mouse.
I can switch between both and I know other people who can switch between both (Uan) with no problem.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Tablet? Only if your aim is to do impossible maps with good acc. Not-so-skilled players will find tablet just a bit more comfortable in most cases, and that's all. Remember, If you switch from mouse to tablet, you will suck after switching it back to mouse.
JAKACHAN wrote:
AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Remember, If you switch from mouse to tablet, you will suck after switching it back to mouse.
I can switch between both and I know other people who can switch between both (Uan) with no problem.
No, this is very true, and is why I don't play tablet at all anymore. I used to switch around a lot last summer and it tore down on my tablet skills and at the same time I didn't really get the hang of mouse before I quit tablet entirely.
If I were to pick up the pen right now and use it for about 30 mins, and then go back mouse right after, it could feel awkward for as much as an hour after that.
I also asked taNa about this once, and he agrees since he would have to play tobestyle or mouse only for as much as a day to regain his skill after a full switch. I don't think these 2 styles fit together in 1 player.
my mouse skills are still intact after 2 months of no mouse playAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Tablet? Only if your aim is to do impossible maps with good acc. Not-so-skilled players will find tablet just a bit more comfortable in most cases, and that's all. Remember, If you switch from mouse to tablet, you will suck after switching it back to mouse.
i can play almost the same with mouse and tablet with no problems whatsoever (and switch back and forth between them)
With how long to adjust? No time at all? D:Mesita wrote:
i can play almost the same with mouse and tablet with no problems whatsoever (and switch back and forth between them)
Would you be able to FC gold dust with you mouse straight after switching after having played with tablet for a full day?
haha so trooAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Tablet? Only if your aim is to do impossible maps with good acc. Not-so-skilled players will find tablet just a bit more comfortable in most cases, and that's all. Remember, If you switch from mouse to tablet, you will suck after switching it back to mouse.
usin it for like 2 hours and my mouse skill is gone forever arragrharakrakra
5 days in after getting a tablet. Hmm.. it makes me a little bit sad that I've gone back and easily did better than earlier songs I beat with my mouse. I have not yet learned how to hover with the pen because it is extremely awkward, so I'm still dragging, using my pen as a mouse, which makes everything already pretty easy. I'll try and learn the hover though.
On a side note, I've swapped to my mouse a couple times because I've been wearing away my tablet's surface and it's the same old same old. Sure I can play insane songs w/e but songs with 750+ notes always get my hand/mouse to a certain spot out of position where I cannot move it back due to the constant intense flow of the song. I haven't lost my mouse skills, but I still have the mouse "problems" so I'm going to stick with the tablet for now **spinning was never hard with a mouse, I spun wide and always was over 400+ it's just a lot more effort that the tablet and not as accurate** I bought my tablet referred to me by Geckogates and he's a cool guy and knew what he was talking about, I definitely give him my thanks.
On a side note, I've swapped to my mouse a couple times because I've been wearing away my tablet's surface and it's the same old same old. Sure I can play insane songs w/e but songs with 750+ notes always get my hand/mouse to a certain spot out of position where I cannot move it back due to the constant intense flow of the song. I haven't lost my mouse skills, but I still have the mouse "problems" so I'm going to stick with the tablet for now **spinning was never hard with a mouse, I spun wide and always was over 400+ it's just a lot more effort that the tablet and not as accurate** I bought my tablet referred to me by Geckogates and he's a cool guy and knew what he was talking about, I definitely give him my thanks.
Don't actually touch the surface of the mousepad, just hover above it, then you dont mess anything up.
And unrelated: yesterday I asked geckogates how he plays, he showed me his awesome setup and explained why the giant tablet active area is good.
I practiced giant tablet area for like 6 hours and im instantly better than I ever was at the game in every way. Not saying that will work for everybody but if your tablet isn't performing like you want try drastically increasing active area. The precision boost is ridiculous.
And unrelated: yesterday I asked geckogates how he plays, he showed me his awesome setup and explained why the giant tablet active area is good.
I practiced giant tablet area for like 6 hours and im instantly better than I ever was at the game in every way. Not saying that will work for everybody but if your tablet isn't performing like you want try drastically increasing active area. The precision boost is ridiculous.
I play both. Tablet is better, but I think it's less skillful than mouse. I actively switch between the two, like Mesita. Tablet also seems to kill your mouse skills if you don't continue to use the mouse regularly. Memorizing two different sensitivites and gaining muscle memory for each is the hardest part
Rename this as: Gay vs. Lesbian.
Let the people what they want and stop praying that Mouse owns and Tablet sucks or/and Tablet is prooooo.
Let the people what they want and stop praying that Mouse owns and Tablet sucks or/and Tablet is prooooo.
isnt that the point of the thread? lolTheNutritiousGuy wrote:
Rename this as: Gay vs. Lesbian.
Let the people what they want and stop praying that Mouse owns and Tablet sucks or/and Tablet is prooooo.
it's more fun with [insert favourite play style based on preference here] :>
Ok, I'm seriously considering tablet soon, I just can't figure out who I can make my 40x45cm mousepad be enough for me. Somehow my mouse always slides towards the left-down corner of my pad, and I always run out of space >: I
Settings:
800dpi
0.8x osu!
Mouse precision on
6/11 windows
Mouse acceleration off + Mousefix
Settings:
800dpi
0.8x osu!
Mouse precision on
6/11 windows
Mouse acceleration off + Mousefix
it's more fun with feet! :>kriers wrote:
it's more fun with [insert favourite play style based on preference here] :>
lolthose wrote:
it's more fun with feet! :>kriers wrote:
it's more fun with [insert favourite play style based on preference here] :>
it's more fun with my mouse. no, not that kind of mouse.kriers wrote:
it's more fun with [insert favourite play style based on preference here] :>
I play with my nose on the touchpad. Pro shit.
Anyone that think the 2 peripherals are equal, play with a track ball. When you accept that mouse is better than a trackball, you will understand that a tablet is better than a mouse. But like I said that doesn't mean mouse takes more skill. The mental process is the same it's just that you are using a less efficient peripheral.
They have different strong points, the assessment of which is better is judged by the most problematic mapping styles being used. It's already been discussed what some of those strong points are for mouse and tablet. The learning curve is probably easier with a tablet because gliding the mouse at specific speeds and following strange patterns does take a while to master, whereas this is easier to do with a tablet. Most players look at this when deciding which peripheral is better.
I can switch between both and I know other people who can switch between both (Uan) with no problem.Most of players can switch it without major problems, but when it comes to "try-hard" with some IMPOSSIBRU map, you'll feel the difference
Well, if someone is a pro like Mesita or Uan or JAKA, they need less time for adapting to the switch. But anyway, it's incredibly hard to fc hardly possible maps just after switching, no matter how good you are.
I've never used a tablet but I can draw pretty pro with a mouse so I don't need a tablet. After I found out about mouse acceleration a couple months ago my skill in osu! improved a lot and my drawing skills as well. I think they are both the same but mouse you move around with your hand in a funny position as opposed to a pencil style tablet grip.
I also learned to play mouse left handed as well as drawing left handed cool huh?
The bad thing about a mouse is I don't have a mouse pad so trying to set cool records becomes impossible with my wrists sticking to the desk.
I also learned to play mouse left handed as well as drawing left handed cool huh?
The bad thing about a mouse is I don't have a mouse pad so trying to set cool records becomes impossible with my wrists sticking to the desk.
I have a small gap between my mousepad and the edge of my desk because of the abrasion on my wrist. Using a wrist sweatband on hot days when my arm sticks to my desk helps a lot with vertical mobility, it may add a little height that I'm not used to... but it beats sticking to the desk.pedobear420 wrote:
The bad thing about a mouse is I don't have a mouse pad so trying to set cool records becomes impossible with my wrists sticking to the desk.
Try a sweatband, it's a little geekish but it works. I had a few lying around already anyway so I just grabbed 1 one day and put it on.
I like playing with my tablet... I won't say it's better or worse than a mouse because I'm not that experienced with a mouse for osu! and I honestly don't care. People should do what's most natural to them, which is a tablet in my case.
I play touch screen on a tablet PC (8.9") and my hands predictably get in the way, screwing up my combos. It is still the most fun to me by far, despite this issue.