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What level are you on?

Level 1 - 4
1211
46.06%
Level -1 - 0
133
5.06%
Level 5 - 8
302
11.49%
Level 9 - 12
132
5.02%
Level 13 - 16
183
6.96%
Level 17 - 18
84
3.20%
Level 19 - 20
584
22.21%
Total votes: 2629
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Tom69_old
I'd put airman into level 18, airman HR into 19 and Pony into 20. At least in my opinion 19-20 is balanced then.
Also: Remove beatMario. The jumps aren't the part that's ruining your accuracy, it's mainly those stupid streams.
gyorin
Failing Jumper about 80 times actually helped me.

Woo.
Topic Starter
higurush

Tom94 wrote:

I'd put airman into level 18, airman HR into 19 and Pony into 20. At least in my opinion 19-20 is balanced then.
Also: Remove beatMario. The jumps aren't the part that's ruining your accuracy, it's mainly those stupid streams.
Beatmario removed, but i think airman more difficult than homework crysis. but the pony is less diff than airman hr.

Knickerus wrote:

Failing Jumper about 80 times actually helped me.
Woo.
It's not a one day trip:D Though you can play other maps too. It's not a must to play this the whole day : |
gyorin

higurush wrote:

It's not a one day trip:D Though you can play other maps too. It's not a must to play this the whole day : |
I was just determined to pass it. I don't want to have to grind another song as much as I did that one.
Mesita
good job with the guide. I think you could add some DT songs for fast paced jumps like this one: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926

oh, and i'm lvl 19 with mouse, and 18 with tablet orzz.
Topic Starter
higurush

Mesita wrote:

good job with the guide. I think you could add some DT songs for fast paced jumps like this one: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926
oh, and i'm lvl 19 with mouse, and 18 with tablet orzz.
Good map:D I'll put this on the list:)
I'm open for new maps that should be on the list!

<FAQ updated.>
TheVileOne
I definitely am interested in this. I'll edit this post with my level. I know I haven't beaten Helblinde Frontier [ Nutz] yet because of the jumps. I have to be somewhat below that level.
sCam
Well, I was interested in this thread, till I tried it, and found out that some maps in certain levels are pretty damn hard. So it'll take a lot of time to even level up, unless you're really pro, and can breeze through the first few levels without breaking a sweat.

Not to say that this thread was to help noobies get better, but to see how good you are at jumping in genral. Not a bad training method at all, and I appreciate you taking your time out to come up with something like this higurush. Though, I just prefer to get better while just playing. Insane maps, hard maps, and have fun while I do it.
Mesita
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/19156 [sp's darkness]
this one particulary helped me a lot.
Nyu_old2
Lol Imma be a loser quitter, I'll come back to this maybe when I'm some level 90 or something, I'm just not good enough right now. But if anyone actually cares:

Ismail's Standards to Progress:
83%+

Current Level: 0

-Level -1-
Nightcore - Solo Tu (Only You) [Normal+] - 92.88% - 613946 - 213x [A]
Jan Wayne Vs. Raindropz - Numb (Nightcore Ver.) [Hard] - 86.29% - 680480 - 234x [B]
Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars [Hard] - 98.99% - 4778692 - 566x [S]
Yellow Zebra - Darling Star [Metroid Mix] - 85.82% - 729156 - 176x [B]
Tama - Sonna Yume wo Mita no [Normal] - 93.77% - 379904 - 106x [A] +HardRock
Raubtier - Achtung Panzer [Hard] - 83.50% - 1386640 - 241x [C]

-Level 0-
Cascada - Everytime We Touch (Nightcore Mix) [Hard] - 94.19% - 1122270 - 317x [A]
Cascada - Last Christmas (Nightcore Mix) [Hard] - 92.59% - 891336 - 167x [B]
Tama - Sonna Yume wo Mita no [Hard] - 89.06% - 2425150 - 278x [B]

-Level 1-
capsule - Jumper [Insane] - 88.61% - 1127670 - 186x
Nightcore - Festa! [osuplayer11's Hard] - 77.76% - 452550 - 125x +nofail +spunout

-Level 2-
Indecent [Collab] - 81.63% - 702390 - 291x +nofail +spunout
I'm better at faster songs than slower songs, hah.
Topic Starter
higurush

Mesita wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/19156 [sp's darkness]
this one particulary helped me a lot.
Lvl 19 :)

ismAILDo5 wrote:

Lol Imma be a loser quitter, I'll come back to this maybe when I'm some level 90 or something, I'm just not good enough right now.
I'm better at faster songs than slower songs, hah.
I was like you back then! I always played faster and faster songs. Though it was half a year to get to the 15th lvl from the 0th. : |
tolliken
Nice guide, higurush, thx

Current progress: lvl 4 completed, lvl 5 almost completed, except Silver Forest - Tsurupettan [Insane] <Hardrock> ( 91% max for now)

And, just wondering, can i really improve with time? Without any talent it looks pretty impossible hard.
I can't even imagine myself playing something like Can't Defeat Airman or Homework Crisis :o
Hernan
You don't exactly need talent to play osu!
Sonez_old
nice guide, ill be doing it from lvl 0-20 for fun. I'm stuck on some lvl 10 maps before reading this so we'll see if i improve ;)

DJ Fresh - Gold Dust [Insane] really fun jump map if you need another to add
Kanye West
he has it at level 11 i believe

btw im level 9 atm lolz
lolcubes
Since you are serious about this, atleast make your FAQ make sense. You shouldn't have stuff in it based on your opinion. Everyone has a different playstyle or different problems.
Also if you're making the FAQ for the guide, it should probably have something to do with it, instead of questions like "Are you insane, I mean making a very time consuming topic like this?", that makes no sense.

Nice effort, but I really don't like some maps on that list, some don't really contain any real jumps at all, just an occasional one, and some have quite high difficulty settings which makes them too hard for newer people (specifically AR). Some even have more streams than jumps. I don't want to go into too much details because the maps are obvious.

Just a comment.

P.S. You can't take playing accuracy into account, because that's another thing, just because people get A on those "harder" maps doesn't mean they are actually of that level. Also I don't know what kind of criteria you used to have maps in certain level groups, but airman certainly doesn't really go along with maps like rainbow dash. Same style, same creator, same concept, but the map is much harder than airman with HR (which is level 20 lol).

On a sidenote, does anyone remember those jumpy compilations? Those were quite cool.
ztrot
Unrank everything solves all issues :U
kriers
big big ... yeah?
Hernan
Hey Kriers, how about you stop being an idiot and make constructive criticism for once in your life instead of making fun of people all the time?
Waryas
I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
kriers

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
yeah! I'd love to see a finished version of that.

Hernan wrote:

Hey Kriers, how about you stop being an idiot and make constructive criticism for once in your life instead of making fun of people all the time?
That's really disappointing coming from you, Hernan. I didn't think you'd lash out at someone so randomly. Are you really sure I'm making fun
out of people all the time? Do you really think I've never given any constructive criticism? That's really rude.

If you have something against me, then please, pm me ingame and I'll listen to what you have to say.
dNextGen

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
kriers

dNextGen wrote:

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
I agree, but it also needs BG. Something cool for every song that doesn't interrupt gameplay. Would also be cool with a SB that gave some info about every song being played.
those

lolcubes wrote:

Since you are serious about this, atleast make your FAQ make sense. You shouldn't have stuff in it based on your opinion. Everyone has a different playstyle or different problems.
Also if you're making the FAQ for the guide, it should probably have something to do with it, instead of questions like "Are you insane, I mean making a very time consuming topic like this?", that makes no sense.

Nice effort, but I really don't like some maps on that list, some don't really contain any real jumps at all, just an occasional one, and some have quite high difficulty settings which makes them too hard for newer people (specifically AR). Some even have more streams than jumps. I don't want to go into too much details because the maps are obvious.

Just a comment.

P.S. You can't take playing accuracy into account, because that's another thing, just because people get A on those "harder" maps doesn't mean they are actually of that level. Also I don't know what kind of criteria you used to have maps in certain level groups, but airman certainly doesn't really go along with maps like rainbow dash. Same style, same creator, same concept, but the map is much harder than airman with HR (which is level 20 lol).

On a sidenote, does anyone remember those jumpy compilations? Those were quite cool.
No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Topic Starter
higurush

those wrote:

No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Would you be so kind that you stop being rude and making offensive comments? I would really appriciate your instrumentality. Even though I only saw rude comments from you whether it is another thread or not. Is that really makes you happy or you are just bored?

I'm an idiot that I'm started talking to you..
kriers
I don't mind a jump guide.

But,

I just mind a jump guide made by some complete random player made in a rush with shitons of FAQ that either don't make any sense
or are plain arrogant (You may have edited them away, but I don't care to check).
:( :( :(

If only this could provoke someone into making a proper guide, then I guess something good came out of it in the end.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

If only this could provoke someone into making a proper guide, then I guess something good came out of it in the end.
Yeye, but go easy on me. When I posed the RAW topic. That was already 4 AM. I made the topic without any stop, picking maps, linking the maps etc. from the day before the post, 11PM. I was already tired. The topic needed comments, advices, etc. Though I am still open for any positive advice:)
kriers

higurush wrote:

The topic needed comments, advices, etc. Though I am still open for any positive advice:)
Yeah! Let this be a thread for making the best guide possible! Let's not hurry and call it valid just yet :D
silmarilen
change it from a jump guide to an overall skill guide or something and get people with more experience on this part pick the songs.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

Yeah! Let this be a thread for making the best guide possible! Let's not hurry and call it valid just yet :D
Let's! :)

silmarilen wrote:

change it from a jump guide to an overall skill guide or something and get people with more experience on this part pick the songs.
Good idea. Well, it would be a lot of work, yet it wouldn't be easy to include the hardcore stream maps! We have to find something in between jumps and streams. :D
those

higurush wrote:

those wrote:

No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Would you be so kind that you stop being rude and making offensive comments? I would really appriciate your instrumentality. Even though I only saw rude comments from you whether it is another thread or not. Is that really makes you happy or you are just bored?

I'm an idiot that I'm started talking to you..
I'm not bored; it makes me satisfied and happy to know that I'm doing the world a favour in trying to rid the forum of idiot(s) or idiotic threads. I'm also being the brave one in being the one to tell this to you; many people would feel it is unnecessary for them, but I don't feel the same.

higurush wrote:

Yeye, but go easy on me. When I posed the RAW topic. That was already 4 AM
>implying time has anything to do with the quality of your thread
Waryas

dNextGen wrote:

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
i think a complete remake would be better
i'd keep some of the maps of course but things changed since i made that compilation and different jumpy maps are the "references" now
Topic Starter
higurush

those wrote:

I'm not bored; it makes me satisfied and happy to know that I'm doing the world a favour in trying to rid the forum of idiot(s) or idiotic threads. I'm also being the brave one in being the one to tell this to you; many people would feel it is unnecessary for them, but I don't feel the same.
So you are the good guy, who sacrefices himself for a better world and want to purify it from the bottom to the top. Sounds like you are a dude from an anime who thinks his and only his thoughts are true and good. Wow. There we go make zombies from everyone, who all think only the serious way. Who just want to get rid of anything that won't fits their thoughts. In a philosophycal way you are keeping up the way as around halft of the people goes in our world. Or you are just bothered by that some random dude shows up out of the blue and just keep making a long thread. Why are you even here anyways? Leave this thread, please. After all, if this thread wouldn't make any sense at all for you, it would just fade away in the "topic-ocean". So you could be satisfied with that. You wouldn't have to shoulder all this burden :D

At least try to coexist.
Gaba
People being assholes with other people's.

More fresh news at 09:00
WVSagi
Dude,
i know that this thread isn't a Perfect jump training at all,
but seriously, at least leave a good comment or an advice that will helps.

he needs an advice to make this better, but why did you give a negative comments?
what the poot is wrong with you lol, and yeah i also think that some levels and parts aren't well balanced,
but why we don't try to give an advice to make it better
but since i'm still on LVL12, i can't help much at all.
well, good luck higu.
silmarilen
i gave him info, and i get told to "get better at that song at a low level that i cant beat while i can beat songs at higher levels, because otherwise i cant beat later levels (which i just said i already did)"

sorry, but you must be kidding right?
Topic Starter
higurush

WVSagi wrote:

Dude,
i know that this thread isn't a Perfect jump training at all,
but seriously, at least leave a good comment or an advice that will helps.
he needs an advice to make this better, but why did you give a negative comments?
what the poot is wrong with you lol, and yeah i also think that some levels and parts aren't well balanced,
but why we don't try to give an advice to make it better
but since i'm still on LVL12, i can't help much at all.
well, good luck higu.
I'll do my best with a great smile on my face, even if I see some rude comments:)

silmarilen wrote:

i gave him info, and i get told to "get better at that song at a low level that i cant beat while i can beat songs at higher levels, because otherwise i cant beat later levels (which i just said i already did)"
sorry, but you must be kidding right?
FAQ changed from that time. Also your advices were put in real. State which map should I put into which level. Or share some new maps if you have or which maps should be deleted. But remember. Each level should contain a minimum of 4 maps:)
efexx_old
contributing~

lvl 11
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52245

lvl 15
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/85550&m=0 (another another hardrock could be like level 18)

lvl 17
osu.ppy.sh/b/65756

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Tom69_old

efexx wrote:

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Hope you don't mind if I correct those a bit. Being blunt, imho only people actually being at a level should contribute maps for it...
Anti you clearly got harder jumps than airman, even equal or harder than pony, mainly in the end. It definitely should be 20.
I wouldn't put Sticks and Stones into 19... the jumps might be big but slow. Maybe put it into 20 with DoubleTime, but definitely not without.
Ignore's another should go into 19 while I doubt anyone except Cookiezi (maybe not even him, but well... he is Cookiezi) could even PASS unexpected. This one imho even is above 20.

I'll repeat as lolcubes (I think it was him) also said: Pony is harder than Airman HR. It should be 20 instead.


This one could still be 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095 (it got some 2B elements though... dunno if you should add it, need more opinions)
Also, this one is another candidate for ABOVE 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30923 (hope this is the right one)
silmarilen
well. first of all, when the rain begins to fall is easier than the other maps in that level, i would suggest putting it in level 0 instead.

i dont have every map on the list so i cant really tell right now about other maps and their location, but there are also a lot of maps that are in a higher difficulty just because they are harder overall but their jumps arent that hard (kokou no sosei, as i showed before) and there are also maps lower because their jumps arent so hard while the map in itself is impossible for certain people.
also some of the higher levels have songs that are way easier than other songs in the same (or lower) level.
matryoshka and kokou no sousei are hard because of their high bpm single tap, but overall they arent that difficult.
no,39 on the other hand, i dont see myself even getting a B on that with nofail on, same with songs that are on even lower levels.
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