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What level are you on?

Level 1 - 4
1227
46.15%
Level -1 - 0
133
5.00%
Level 5 - 8
309
11.62%
Level 9 - 12
132
4.96%
Level 13 - 16
184
6.92%
Level 17 - 18
86
3.23%
Level 19 - 20
588
22.11%
Total votes: 2659
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Topic Starter
higurush

Mesita wrote:

good job with the guide. I think you could add some DT songs for fast paced jumps like this one: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926
oh, and i'm lvl 19 with mouse, and 18 with tablet orzz.
Good map:D I'll put this on the list:)
I'm open for new maps that should be on the list!

<FAQ updated.>
TheVileOne
I definitely am interested in this. I'll edit this post with my level. I know I haven't beaten Helblinde Frontier [ Nutz] yet because of the jumps. I have to be somewhat below that level.
sCam
Well, I was interested in this thread, till I tried it, and found out that some maps in certain levels are pretty damn hard. So it'll take a lot of time to even level up, unless you're really pro, and can breeze through the first few levels without breaking a sweat.

Not to say that this thread was to help noobies get better, but to see how good you are at jumping in genral. Not a bad training method at all, and I appreciate you taking your time out to come up with something like this higurush. Though, I just prefer to get better while just playing. Insane maps, hard maps, and have fun while I do it.
Mesita
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/19156 [sp's darkness]
this one particulary helped me a lot.
Nyu_old2
Lol Imma be a loser quitter, I'll come back to this maybe when I'm some level 90 or something, I'm just not good enough right now. But if anyone actually cares:

Ismail's Standards to Progress:
83%+

Current Level: 0

-Level -1-
Nightcore - Solo Tu (Only You) [Normal+] - 92.88% - 613946 - 213x [A]
Jan Wayne Vs. Raindropz - Numb (Nightcore Ver.) [Hard] - 86.29% - 680480 - 234x [B]
Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars [Hard] - 98.99% - 4778692 - 566x [S]
Yellow Zebra - Darling Star [Metroid Mix] - 85.82% - 729156 - 176x [B]
Tama - Sonna Yume wo Mita no [Normal] - 93.77% - 379904 - 106x [A] +HardRock
Raubtier - Achtung Panzer [Hard] - 83.50% - 1386640 - 241x [C]

-Level 0-
Cascada - Everytime We Touch (Nightcore Mix) [Hard] - 94.19% - 1122270 - 317x [A]
Cascada - Last Christmas (Nightcore Mix) [Hard] - 92.59% - 891336 - 167x [B]
Tama - Sonna Yume wo Mita no [Hard] - 89.06% - 2425150 - 278x [B]

-Level 1-
capsule - Jumper [Insane] - 88.61% - 1127670 - 186x
Nightcore - Festa! [osuplayer11's Hard] - 77.76% - 452550 - 125x +nofail +spunout

-Level 2-
Indecent [Collab] - 81.63% - 702390 - 291x +nofail +spunout
I'm better at faster songs than slower songs, hah.
Topic Starter
higurush

Mesita wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/19156 [sp's darkness]
this one particulary helped me a lot.
Lvl 19 :)

ismAILDo5 wrote:

Lol Imma be a loser quitter, I'll come back to this maybe when I'm some level 90 or something, I'm just not good enough right now.
I'm better at faster songs than slower songs, hah.
I was like you back then! I always played faster and faster songs. Though it was half a year to get to the 15th lvl from the 0th. : |
tolliken
Nice guide, higurush, thx

Current progress: lvl 4 completed, lvl 5 almost completed, except Silver Forest - Tsurupettan [Insane] <Hardrock> ( 91% max for now)

And, just wondering, can i really improve with time? Without any talent it looks pretty impossible hard.
I can't even imagine myself playing something like Can't Defeat Airman or Homework Crisis :o
Hernan
You don't exactly need talent to play osu!
Sonez_old
nice guide, ill be doing it from lvl 0-20 for fun. I'm stuck on some lvl 10 maps before reading this so we'll see if i improve ;)

DJ Fresh - Gold Dust [Insane] really fun jump map if you need another to add
Kanye West
he has it at level 11 i believe

btw im level 9 atm lolz
lolcubes
Since you are serious about this, atleast make your FAQ make sense. You shouldn't have stuff in it based on your opinion. Everyone has a different playstyle or different problems.
Also if you're making the FAQ for the guide, it should probably have something to do with it, instead of questions like "Are you insane, I mean making a very time consuming topic like this?", that makes no sense.

Nice effort, but I really don't like some maps on that list, some don't really contain any real jumps at all, just an occasional one, and some have quite high difficulty settings which makes them too hard for newer people (specifically AR). Some even have more streams than jumps. I don't want to go into too much details because the maps are obvious.

Just a comment.

P.S. You can't take playing accuracy into account, because that's another thing, just because people get A on those "harder" maps doesn't mean they are actually of that level. Also I don't know what kind of criteria you used to have maps in certain level groups, but airman certainly doesn't really go along with maps like rainbow dash. Same style, same creator, same concept, but the map is much harder than airman with HR (which is level 20 lol).

On a sidenote, does anyone remember those jumpy compilations? Those were quite cool.
ztrot
Unrank everything solves all issues :U
kriers
big big ... yeah?
Hernan
Hey Kriers, how about you stop being an idiot and make constructive criticism for once in your life instead of making fun of people all the time?
Waryas
I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
kriers

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
yeah! I'd love to see a finished version of that.

Hernan wrote:

Hey Kriers, how about you stop being an idiot and make constructive criticism for once in your life instead of making fun of people all the time?
That's really disappointing coming from you, Hernan. I didn't think you'd lash out at someone so randomly. Are you really sure I'm making fun
out of people all the time? Do you really think I've never given any constructive criticism? That's really rude.

If you have something against me, then please, pm me ingame and I'll listen to what you have to say.
dNextGen

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
kriers

dNextGen wrote:

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
I agree, but it also needs BG. Something cool for every song that doesn't interrupt gameplay. Would also be cool with a SB that gave some info about every song being played.
those

lolcubes wrote:

Since you are serious about this, atleast make your FAQ make sense. You shouldn't have stuff in it based on your opinion. Everyone has a different playstyle or different problems.
Also if you're making the FAQ for the guide, it should probably have something to do with it, instead of questions like "Are you insane, I mean making a very time consuming topic like this?", that makes no sense.

Nice effort, but I really don't like some maps on that list, some don't really contain any real jumps at all, just an occasional one, and some have quite high difficulty settings which makes them too hard for newer people (specifically AR). Some even have more streams than jumps. I don't want to go into too much details because the maps are obvious.

Just a comment.

P.S. You can't take playing accuracy into account, because that's another thing, just because people get A on those "harder" maps doesn't mean they are actually of that level. Also I don't know what kind of criteria you used to have maps in certain level groups, but airman certainly doesn't really go along with maps like rainbow dash. Same style, same creator, same concept, but the map is much harder than airman with HR (which is level 20 lol).

On a sidenote, does anyone remember those jumpy compilations? Those were quite cool.
No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Topic Starter
higurush

those wrote:

No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Would you be so kind that you stop being rude and making offensive comments? I would really appriciate your instrumentality. Even though I only saw rude comments from you whether it is another thread or not. Is that really makes you happy or you are just bored?

I'm an idiot that I'm started talking to you..
kriers
I don't mind a jump guide.

But,

I just mind a jump guide made by some complete random player made in a rush with shitons of FAQ that either don't make any sense
or are plain arrogant (You may have edited them away, but I don't care to check).
:( :( :(

If only this could provoke someone into making a proper guide, then I guess something good came out of it in the end.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

If only this could provoke someone into making a proper guide, then I guess something good came out of it in the end.
Yeye, but go easy on me. When I posed the RAW topic. That was already 4 AM. I made the topic without any stop, picking maps, linking the maps etc. from the day before the post, 11PM. I was already tired. The topic needed comments, advices, etc. Though I am still open for any positive advice:)
kriers

higurush wrote:

The topic needed comments, advices, etc. Though I am still open for any positive advice:)
Yeah! Let this be a thread for making the best guide possible! Let's not hurry and call it valid just yet :D
silmarilen
change it from a jump guide to an overall skill guide or something and get people with more experience on this part pick the songs.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

Yeah! Let this be a thread for making the best guide possible! Let's not hurry and call it valid just yet :D
Let's! :)

silmarilen wrote:

change it from a jump guide to an overall skill guide or something and get people with more experience on this part pick the songs.
Good idea. Well, it would be a lot of work, yet it wouldn't be easy to include the hardcore stream maps! We have to find something in between jumps and streams. :D
those

higurush wrote:

those wrote:

No no, lolcubes. This is his own jump training; I'd expect it more to be like a blog or something (which shouldn't really belong in this section). This doesn't even qualify to be a guide.
Would you be so kind that you stop being rude and making offensive comments? I would really appriciate your instrumentality. Even though I only saw rude comments from you whether it is another thread or not. Is that really makes you happy or you are just bored?

I'm an idiot that I'm started talking to you..
I'm not bored; it makes me satisfied and happy to know that I'm doing the world a favour in trying to rid the forum of idiot(s) or idiotic threads. I'm also being the brave one in being the one to tell this to you; many people would feel it is unnecessary for them, but I don't feel the same.

higurush wrote:

Yeye, but go easy on me. When I posed the RAW topic. That was already 4 AM
>implying time has anything to do with the quality of your thread
Waryas

dNextGen wrote:

Waryas wrote:

I think my jump compilation was a good training tbh i still need to fix it lol
just remove those extra stage stuff from that map and its done D:
i think a complete remake would be better
i'd keep some of the maps of course but things changed since i made that compilation and different jumpy maps are the "references" now
Topic Starter
higurush

those wrote:

I'm not bored; it makes me satisfied and happy to know that I'm doing the world a favour in trying to rid the forum of idiot(s) or idiotic threads. I'm also being the brave one in being the one to tell this to you; many people would feel it is unnecessary for them, but I don't feel the same.
So you are the good guy, who sacrefices himself for a better world and want to purify it from the bottom to the top. Sounds like you are a dude from an anime who thinks his and only his thoughts are true and good. Wow. There we go make zombies from everyone, who all think only the serious way. Who just want to get rid of anything that won't fits their thoughts. In a philosophycal way you are keeping up the way as around halft of the people goes in our world. Or you are just bothered by that some random dude shows up out of the blue and just keep making a long thread. Why are you even here anyways? Leave this thread, please. After all, if this thread wouldn't make any sense at all for you, it would just fade away in the "topic-ocean". So you could be satisfied with that. You wouldn't have to shoulder all this burden :D

At least try to coexist.
Gaba
People being assholes with other people's.

More fresh news at 09:00
WVSagi
Dude,
i know that this thread isn't a Perfect jump training at all,
but seriously, at least leave a good comment or an advice that will helps.

he needs an advice to make this better, but why did you give a negative comments?
what the poot is wrong with you lol, and yeah i also think that some levels and parts aren't well balanced,
but why we don't try to give an advice to make it better
but since i'm still on LVL12, i can't help much at all.
well, good luck higu.
silmarilen
i gave him info, and i get told to "get better at that song at a low level that i cant beat while i can beat songs at higher levels, because otherwise i cant beat later levels (which i just said i already did)"

sorry, but you must be kidding right?
Topic Starter
higurush

WVSagi wrote:

Dude,
i know that this thread isn't a Perfect jump training at all,
but seriously, at least leave a good comment or an advice that will helps.
he needs an advice to make this better, but why did you give a negative comments?
what the poot is wrong with you lol, and yeah i also think that some levels and parts aren't well balanced,
but why we don't try to give an advice to make it better
but since i'm still on LVL12, i can't help much at all.
well, good luck higu.
I'll do my best with a great smile on my face, even if I see some rude comments:)

silmarilen wrote:

i gave him info, and i get told to "get better at that song at a low level that i cant beat while i can beat songs at higher levels, because otherwise i cant beat later levels (which i just said i already did)"
sorry, but you must be kidding right?
FAQ changed from that time. Also your advices were put in real. State which map should I put into which level. Or share some new maps if you have or which maps should be deleted. But remember. Each level should contain a minimum of 4 maps:)
efexx_old
contributing~

lvl 11
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52245

lvl 15
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/85550&m=0 (another another hardrock could be like level 18)

lvl 17
osu.ppy.sh/b/65756

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Tom69_old

efexx wrote:

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Hope you don't mind if I correct those a bit. Being blunt, imho only people actually being at a level should contribute maps for it...
Anti you clearly got harder jumps than airman, even equal or harder than pony, mainly in the end. It definitely should be 20.
I wouldn't put Sticks and Stones into 19... the jumps might be big but slow. Maybe put it into 20 with DoubleTime, but definitely not without.
Ignore's another should go into 19 while I doubt anyone except Cookiezi (maybe not even him, but well... he is Cookiezi) could even PASS unexpected. This one imho even is above 20.

I'll repeat as lolcubes (I think it was him) also said: Pony is harder than Airman HR. It should be 20 instead.


This one could still be 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095 (it got some 2B elements though... dunno if you should add it, need more opinions)
Also, this one is another candidate for ABOVE 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30923 (hope this is the right one)
silmarilen
well. first of all, when the rain begins to fall is easier than the other maps in that level, i would suggest putting it in level 0 instead.

i dont have every map on the list so i cant really tell right now about other maps and their location, but there are also a lot of maps that are in a higher difficulty just because they are harder overall but their jumps arent that hard (kokou no sosei, as i showed before) and there are also maps lower because their jumps arent so hard while the map in itself is impossible for certain people.
also some of the higher levels have songs that are way easier than other songs in the same (or lower) level.
matryoshka and kokou no sousei are hard because of their high bpm single tap, but overall they arent that difficult.
no,39 on the other hand, i dont see myself even getting a B on that with nofail on, same with songs that are on even lower levels.
Topic Starter
higurush
quoting

efexx wrote:

contributing~
lvl 11 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52245
lvl 15 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/85550&m=0 (another another hardrock could be like level 18)
lvl 17 osu.ppy.sh/b/65756
lvl 19 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722
lvl 20 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)
imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.

Tom94 wrote:

Hope you don't mind if I correct those a bit. Being blunt, imho only people actually being at a level should contribute maps for it... Anti you clearly got harder jumps than airman, even equal or harder than pony, mainly in the end. It definitely should be 20. I wouldn't put Sticks and Stones into 19... the jumps might be big but slow. Maybe put it into 20 with DoubleTime, but definitely not without. Ignore's another should go into 19 while I doubt anyone except Cookiezi (maybe not even him, but well... he is Cookiezi) could even PASS unexpected. This one imho even is above 20. I'll repeat as lolcubes (I think it was him) also said: Pony is harder than Airman HR. It should be 20 instead. This one could still be 20: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095 (it got some 2B elements though... dunno if you should add it, need more opinions) Also, this one is another candidate for ABOVE 20: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30923 (hope this is the right one)

silmarilen wrote:

well. first of all, when the rain begins to fall is easier than the other maps in that level, i would suggest putting it in level 0 instead. i dont have every map on the list so i cant really tell right now about other maps and their location, but there are also a lot of maps that are in a higher difficulty just because they are harder overall but their jumps arent that hard (kokou no sosei, as i showed before) and there are also maps lower because their jumps arent so hard while the map in itself is impossible for certain people. also some of the higher levels have songs that are way easier than other songs in the same (or lower) level. matryoshka and kokou no sousei are hard because of their high bpm single tap, but overall they arent that difficult. no,39 on the other hand, i dont see myself even getting a B on that with nofail on, same with songs that are on even lower levels.

To efexx: see the Change log:) Maps were put in.
To Tom94: for this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095
The Auto mod couldn't even do that without a miss. Also what are those extra circle's on the sliders? Wouldn't it be better if they have been replaced with sliderticks?
To silmarilen: for "rain begins to fall" read FAQ #9 (small sentences are important too). So you should state a new map if you would like to get that easy map out of level 1. (Sorry, but at the moment I haven't got any new easy+ maps in my mind)
for "matryoshka and kokou no sousei and no,39" read FAQ #8. I wrote some useful tips for those maps like them. That's why it's in the same level as those maps.
And for those unbalanced level. I could also refer to FAQ #9. State the song which should be put into which level.

Also I am very thankful for all your comments and advices. I would like to mention people who helped me with this thread:)
Tom69_old

higurush wrote:

To Tom94: for this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095
The Auto mod couldn't even do that without a miss. Also what are those extra circle's on the sliders? Wouldn't it be better if they have been replaced with sliderticks?
Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable.
Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
Topic Starter
higurush

Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable. Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
Agh 2Buttons are a bit out of my range. I regurarly swich my fingers during play, so it's kinda Impossibru! to fc any of them :d
Tom69_old
I'd put DeltaMAX @ Unexpected into the bonus stage. In the end there are 500 BPM screen-jumps. I don't know anyone who could even pass the map.
Topic Starter
higurush

Tom94 wrote:

I'd put DeltaMAX @ Unexpected into the bonus stage. In the end there are 500 BPM screen-jumps. I don't know anyone who could even pass the map.
done:)
today I get to know another jump compilation which contains some fine maps. tomorrow, I'll put them into the levels.
those

Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable.
Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
Gotta love Symphonic Love.
silmarilen
here is a nice map with some difficult jump patterns in the 2nd half. probably worthy of lvl 17 or 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39953

another nice map with interesting jumps a couple of lvls lower, maybe lvl 13-14? not sure
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40071

same with this one
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34469

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
Tom69_old

silmarilen wrote:

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
I'd put it alongside Airman HR @ level 19. It's an easier A iin comparison to that imho.
Topic Starter
higurush
Quotes

Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable. Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060

those wrote:

Gotta love Symphonic Love.

silmarilen wrote:

here is a nice map with some difficult jump patterns in the 2nd half. probably worthy of lvl 17 or 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39953
another nice map with interesting jumps a couple of lvls lower, maybe lvl 13-14? not sure
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40071
same with this one
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34469
also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?

Tom94 wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
I'd put it alongside Airman HR @ level 19. It's an easier A iin comparison to that imho.

Changelog wrote:

March 22:
1 new song in LVL 19
3 new songs in LVL 17
2 new songs in LVL 15
1 new song in LVL 14
1 new song in LVL 20+
1 new song in LVL 16
2 new songs in LVL 3
1 new song in LVL 5
1 new song in LVL 16
1 new song in LVL 6
bananaman533
Pretty sure Eoin O Broin - Oblivion is too high and Eoin O Broin - Deep Space[Another] is too low.
pielak213
attempting to contribute

lvl 16
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/33192
lvl 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/24521
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36077 + DT
level 20
the tag4 from lvl 19 should be in 20 or 20+ or cxu is the only person able to be level 19+

play them first before adding b/c I don't konw if theyre considered jumpy. I am level 17 (or -1 b/c i didn't bother doing the levels before)
Izayaa_old
THANK YOU!
Mirage
This sounds cool, and I could pass some time.
I'll begin from Level 8, cause they are fun :D

STATUS: JUMP CHAMPION

Level 8 PASSED 3/5 S
SPOILER
Poinsettia A 3 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285555
Wow, I can't get a nice accuracy there.
Put this map at level 10 or so.

Hourai Victim A 1 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285558
Lol 1 random miss.

Kusaregedou no Chocolate S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285559

Innocent Treasures S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285561

Lorelei S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285574

Level 9 PASSED 5/5 S

Level 10 PASSED 4/7 S
SPOILER
Ridorii A 1 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285608
Like...seriously? Last notes.

Taketori Hishou S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285595
Probably one of my best records.

Romantic Children S HIDDEN
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285626
Top40 score.

Necrofantasia S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285632

Silence S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285633

Reset A 5 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285641
Wow, this is hard.
Put this map at level 12 or so.

Motteke! A 4 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285649
I'd remove this map from the list.

Level 11
SPOILER
Chanteikku Sanyousei no Itazura Daisensou S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285654

My Pace de Ikimashou A 7 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285662

Gold Dust A 2 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285665
Wishy
This training makes no sense from the point there are different kind of "jumps" and he isn't, from the little I've red, explained them at all.

To make it simple, you may be pro at jumps, still miss everything when you see some pattern like a square, or when you get tornado combos, or those pattern where spacing gets bigger and bigger during a 1/2 stream. Not gonna make a huge post but basically you can't really judge a jump map by what it looks, but by what it plays.
K47
Lavale_old

Piko wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/24313
Am I Level 19?

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57255
or 20?
Brace yourself, because you have made a necropost

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