Not even gonna fully participate in this conversation. But holy shit.
It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
Pff that is so pedantic. Who cares?Agnes wrote:
It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
I doooo.kriers wrote:
Pff that is so pedantic. Who cares?Agnes wrote:
It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
"Passing" streams is not hard.Cho wrote:
Being able to pass a stream no matter your accuracy is better than not being able to do it atall.
<-- 140bpm limit for 10 months now.
Call the firefighters! Flame incoming! /o/Agnes wrote:
Rena-chan
That's exactly how I do it!kanye west wrote:
"Passing" streams is not hard.Cho wrote:
Being able to pass a stream no matter your accuracy is better than not being able to do it atall.
<-- 140bpm limit for 10 months now.
Step 1. Line up your cursor properly
Step 2. Insert face on keyboard (or mouse).
Step 3. Roll face back and forth.
Only hard part about streams is being able to play them accurately (with all 300's).
stop whining. Not everyone is bound to get good at this game.Cho wrote:
If "Passing" streams isn't hard then clearly I've missed something, because to me 150bpm+ is just impossible.
120-170 BPM 100%, 170-190 >97%, 200-210 >95% ;w;kriers wrote:
if you wanna get good: find a comfortable streaming technique -> master lower bpm like 120-140 bpm (mastery = 98-100% accuracy on od8) -> use this technique on higher bpm and sync your fingers to all kinds of paces
That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+higurush wrote:
Okay then. Let's imagine a song which is very fast, have nice spacing and timing with perfect jumps, but the beatmap comes to a streampart that you can't do normally. You find yourself troubled, annoyed, you are in great anger that you can't stream faster to not to miss that streampart. If you do one of the techniques this vid shows you, that fits to that beatmap's part you could pass that stream. After all, passing is better than missing right? Your accuracy at the end will still be around 95-98% and the FCing is not a problem within.
Yeah ok if that's all there is to it from your part, then be my guest. I know people who regard this game for nothing more than a game to increase reflexes and don't give a single thought towards accuracy even despite the fact that this is a rythm gamehigurush wrote:
On the other hand, you could gain this advantage in 1 day. It's faster than practicing a whole month to get you fingers faster. Most of the players are playing this game as a hobby. They just want to have some fun, but there are parts in beatmaps that could ruin their fun. They don't have time to practice day by day. They need something like a miracle that helps them instantly.
That is what this video about.
Taking shotcuts always make disadvantages for you. But well, I can do 230 bpm streams. Developing time was around 2 weeks, but it can be learned in 1 day. Insant boost up in 2 weeks. That's what I need. Before I developed this thing I could barely do 150 bpm longstreams. Now its up to my mood how much bpm I want to do : )kriers wrote:
That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+
Yeah, accuracy matters for a rythm game too, but not everyone could SS every map. I mean its enough to get 95-98% acc on a map.kriers wrote:
Yeah ok if that's all there is to it from your part, then be my guest. I know people who regard this game for nothing more than a game to increase reflexes and don't give a single thought towards accuracy even despite the fact that this is a rythm game
how can you know it only takes 2 weeks? save 1 day!?higurush wrote:
Taking shotcuts always make disadvantages for you. But well, I can do 230 bpm streams. Developing time was around 2 weeks, but it can be learned in 1 day. Insant boost up in 2 weeks. That's what I need. Before I developed this thing I could barely do 150 bpm longstreams. Now its up to my mood how much bpm I want to do : )kriers wrote:
That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+
Isn't this fine for a hobbyst? I just want to enjoy the song, this freaking good game. Isn't all the rythm games about? :d
I mean I developed the technique in 2 weeks, but most of the people could learn this in 1 day. Say what, I save time for them, while I am making sweat for it. And just share this for free.kriers wrote:
how can you know it only takes 2 weeks? save 1 day!?
but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>higurush wrote:
What do I get for it?
- 10% Thank You
- 30% General stuff
- 60% Flame, bullying, etc.
Don't be a zombie. Don't be just one of the people. Be yourself. Don't be scared of flaming. Let your thoughts out. It's natural that some people won't agree with you. But you could help others. Isn't that a precious feeling you would treasure? Just be proud of yourself that you are not "one of those".kriers wrote:
but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>
Blame the player, not the equipment xDLolicore Flandre wrote:
lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
The aimgod may guide you on your shoulders!Lolicore Flandre wrote:
lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/higurush wrote:
Don't be a zombie. Don't be just one of the people. Be yourself. Don't be scared of flaming. Let your thoughts out. It's natural that some people won't agree with you. But you could help others. Isn't that a precious feeling you would treasure? Just be proud of yourself that you are not "one of those".kriers wrote:
but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>
If everybody would shut their mouth, then where would the world lead to?
How mysterious you are 8Dkriers wrote:
what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/
Try my broken optical mouse, then talk.actually I dont want anyone to touch it,its hellkanye west wrote:
Blame the player, not the equipment xDLolicore Flandre wrote:
lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
Really? I'm just saying that I waited a long time before I started visiting the forums. I never open up topics in forums, though, mostly because I keep my ideas to myself and friends and also because it's enough to add a little wisdom here and there without making a whole thread about a single idea.higurush wrote:
How mysterious you are 8Dkriers wrote:
what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/
Off-topic?kriers wrote:
Really? I'm just saying that I waited a long time before I started visiting the forums. I never open up topics in forums, though, mostly because I keep my ideas to myself and friends and also because it's enough to add a little wisdom here and there without making a whole thread about a single idea.
higurush wrote:
Please do not flame here. Some people would treasure this video.
Don't forget that people on Gameplay&Rankings are "omg you have to get 99.5% accuracy on HD+HR insane maps or else you suck"Tom94 wrote:
For a Rank you need an FC (or at least a high Combo), for the FC you need the speed. So why the hell be bitchy about 2-3% Accuracy and sacrifice a potential Rank? Of course depends if you want the Score or the Accuracy. :/
Same thing the other way round: If you FC but get a low accuracy you might not get the Rank. But srsly guys... at long 230+ BPM Streams (only parts where you really need DoubleTapping) there probably aren't more than 10 FCs. And those usually got a way worse accuracy. Ever tried streaming Mad Machine normally? I bet you get an even worse accuracy than with DoubleTapping as you will be getting waaaay more 100s and 50s.
(Well, if your name is jesse1402 or whoever can stream 270 BPM ignore this)
If these Techniques are 'Shortcuts' then what's wrong about using them? If you want to improve other techniques you can just play them instead...
It's clear for me: Trade accuracy for an FC or don't. That's everyone's own decision; no need to flame.
Ohh and btw.
@ about 240+ BPM Doubletapping doesn't even yield 100s if done correctly, just in case you wanna keep the high accuracy.
(Of course depends on OD... but I can get 99.XX% and nearly FC on http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32883 . Could I without DoubleTapping? No, both accuracy and combo would be way worse.)
That's everyone's own opinion after all... but I totally agree with you: I hate the way it is expressed. :XBlue Dragon wrote:
Don't forget that people on Gameplay&Rankings are "omg you have to get 99.5% accuracy on HD+HR insane maps or else you suck"
Nobody is talking about spamming here. DoubleTapping for instance is not spamming. It's playing the stream at exactly half the speed. And you're getting even more accuracy when trying to get full 300 with this technique. That's harder than playing OD10 full 300, srsly.YodaSnipe wrote:
Building acc is much better because, as you build up speed you retain that accuracy. Instead of spamming speed and then learning accuracy.
Maybe uncomfortable for those, who don't have that much muscle to deal with this "uncomfortableness" :d Though I'm an optimistic! I presume that everybody could do anything. It's just a matter of practice! Though finding the comfortable pose, it's up to everyone.Hanyuu wrote:
Those "techniques" look very uncomfortable to play though but i might try it sometimes.. nice video still
speaking of technique .. im doing "the basic"
Sorry but I am working on my own skin. Later I will post it in the Skin thread, but first its needs to be done. : )Dasiel wrote:
OP, could you share the skin you are using in that video with me? Or at least the name of skin, it looks pretty neat.
That's okay, but we can already do that. We want moorepalion wrote:
accuracy > speed imo
i'd rather be able to stream consistently at bpms < 180
who cares, literally you will stream faster in 1 dayDrafura wrote:
I think there's a confusion on the stream definition of each ones... Maybe the title is wrong ? it's not "how to stream faster", it's "how to survive to streams when you can't play them".
hold your mouse with one hand and spam click with the other, this works on stable and linear streams and may be just what you need to passOmg i could imagine that lol. That must look funny i want to see that
which technique did you try thoughHanyuu wrote:
hold your mouse with one hand and spam click with the other, this works on stable and linear streams and may be just what you need to passOmg i could imagine that lol. That must look funny i want to see that![]()
ontopic: It really made me stream faster in, well not really 1 day since i could not play that long lol. I could survive at least 240 BPM streams but it just got worse at the stream got longer and longer 300-100-50. Missing also fewer than before, the accuracy does not seem to be a big problem too because i just dont hammer on the keyboards buttons lol. Anyways i went back to 220 BPM and could do it even better than that. Playing 200 BPM stream was perfect no 100s and i could not even play this stream speed before. Well but it is such a stress and i had to stop playing after a couple songs because my hand and fingers felt numb and i could not move properly anymore
I'm glad I could help in some waysHanyuu wrote:
A mix betweeen moving just your wrist and fingers i think, now that you say it i havent paid much attention to that while playing, i just remembered that from the video and just did it after a time without thinking too much about it. in most parts i play normal but in some places i would use my wrist for clicking because that releases the strain on my fingers a bit and does now make me too tired. but still this is very exhausting me.. lol
edit: i also changed my keyboard buttons together with this from W/E to Y/X (standard) what also made it easier with this