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Rantai
Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.

Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.
Salvage
?



explain that swift please cause i don't get what you mean .. we'd be lynching someone who isn't town and jester .. so it would help town also taking in mind he has anti town iniciatives he's suggesting.
Salvage

Rantai wrote:

Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.

Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.


activeness > mayoritiy.




bring them all up and we'll talk then
Rantai
--> implying town is active

Besides we have a week.

Also requesting a vote count somewhere please.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?

Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.
roufou
I'd rather like it if jesters actually earned their win by being lynch-able, I guess I may change my mind later in the day :s
Rantai
Earning their win is by banding together and forcing it instead of milling around hoping to be lynched.

No?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Jesters WANT to get voted for.

I don't. ...nor do I know why Wojjan is voting for me.
Salvage

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?

Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.


i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.



the no-lynch strategy can break all this cons regarding the town dissadvantage against the jesters if mafia works with town atleast the first two days


about lynching the indie it's just because he's having several anti-town suggestions and that doesn't help us at all.
Rantai
Simple, you're not a jester.

Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..You know what would be hilarious?

I'm restating my earlier claim about Salvage, by the way:

If he was a cop jester, but instead of winning by getting X amount of jester searches, he gets a power for every jester he searches. I dunno what, but it's possible.
Rantai

Salvage wrote:

i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
Hey mafia, do you really want to help this backstabbing 2 timer?

At least I'm open about my intentions and hey who knows, if you kill the town instead of jesters and then lynch them one by one, you'll actually have majority and win too. Because there will eventually be 0 town and 2 jesters assuming me and the other indie live. It's actually very beneficial to you because EVERYONE wins except town.
Salvage

Rantai wrote:

Simple, you're not a jester.

Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.


is that a jester claim
roufou
Jesters can't really overthrow us if we lynch one Day1, do they? If Im forced to lynch a jester I will probably do so, but I won't just give them a free win!
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Rantai wrote:

Salvage wrote:

i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
Hey mafia, do you really want to help this backstabbing 2 timer?

At least I'm open about my intentions and hey who knows, if you kill the town instead of jesters and then lynch them one by one, you'll actually have majority and win too. Because there will eventually be 0 town and 2 jesters assuming me and the other indie live. It's actually very beneficial to you because EVERYONE wins except town.
And the two other jesters.

Or, you could do it the other way, and have the mafia killed off, which could lessen (or increase) the number of jester wins.
Rantai
Take it as you want. We indies will have our day.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

AGUYWITHTHENAME wrote:

Jesters can't really overthrow us if we lynch one Day1, do they? If Im forced to lynch a jester I will probably do so, but I won't just give them a free win!
The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Rantai
Well you see, there are less mafia to deal with than town.

Actually I just realised if the mafia are willing to kill off two/three of their own all jesters and indies can win with the mafia.
Topic Starter
Mara
VOTE STATUS

No Lynch (8) - Drakari, Ekaru, Salvage, bmin11, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (3) - Mashley, Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Sync (2) - Lybydose, DeathxShinigami
Rantai (1) - Sync
Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1) - Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Correct, game doesn't end if a jester wins.
roufou
I don't think so either, but I won't just let third parties get their wins, it's like giving someone a reward they don't deserve!
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Except survivors can easily get a joint win with town (or mafia, since they're neutral)
Rantai
That's fine, at least I know you're town/mafia.

You remaining jesters/indies vote Salvage if you want a good chance at winning this. Mafia if you want in on this too, just vote Salvage.

Town must burn.
Rantai
Oh yeah @Salvage - it doesn't even matter what I am (Jester or Survivor) because in the end I'm still working towards the same goal (if you really really think I am jester I am willing to never be lynched in order for another jester to win)

In the end not being lynched helps my agenda both ways so yeah post digging won't help you here ^_^
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

LunaticMara wrote:

VOTE STATUS

No Lynch (8) - Drakari, Ekaru, Salvage, bmin11, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (3) - Mashley, Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Sync (2) - Lybydose, DeathxShinigami
Rantai (1) - Sync
Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1) - Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Correct, game doesn't end if a jester wins.
Mod: You miscalculated the people that voted for a no lynch. I see seven people, yet it says eight.
Salvage
Let's make it simple Rantai, if Jesters do that you loose and we lynch you eventually are you up for that.






Regarding lynching a jester to prevent them from being mayority it's a decent option if it's nothing else to go along with, the funny thing is that they want to start being lynched one by one and stop the no-lynch plan, but they're voting me instead



Anyways i'd go allong with that No-Lynch thing till we're not mayority anymore then we stick with the lynch being done and then mafia kills a jester and keep on going from that.



The good thing about this is that all the Jesters are gonna be confirmed since they're the only ones that could be against the No-Lynch suggestion, is for Town and Mafia benefit to go along with the no lynch situation and thus if they lynch me at the end Town wouldn't need me anymore cause all the Jesters would be confirmed, so if they lynch me mafia can kill a jester (already confirmed for not voting No-Lynch) and then ignore those players who were in the opposite bandwagon that the No-Lync one.


^, With that said if Jesters go along with the lynch situation they're instantly confirmed and just a minority of jesters will end up winning, and Rantai will be lynched eventually and loose too for being anti-town.
Topic Starter
Mara

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Mod: You miscalculated the people that voted for a no lynch. I see seven people, yet it says eight.
Yup, basic tuuba.

VOTE STATUS

No Lynch (7) - Drakari, Ekaru, Salvage, bmin11, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (3) - Mashley, Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Sync (2) - Lybydose, DeathxShinigami
Rantai (1) - Sync
Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1) - Wojjan
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Salvage wrote:

Let's make it simple Rantai, if Jesters do that you loose and we lynch you eventually are you up for that.
Wrong.
Anyways i'd go allong with that No-Lynch thing till we're not mayority anymore then we stick with the lynch being done and then mafia kills a jester and keep on going from that.
...My most recent claim about you being a jester is still holding true.

That and the anti-lynch style jester, where you get some sort of power if you manage to get people to vote no lynch. You've been at it for a while. (Again, I don't care who wins)


With that said if Jesters go along with the lynch situation they're instantly confirmed and just a minority of jesters will end up winning, and Rantai will be lynched eventually and loose too for being anti-town.
...What? I fail to see how this works out. Hell, I could be mafia wanting to get you lynched. You don't know that. You can't just ASSUME that everyone that's not on the no-lynch wagon is a jester.
Rantai
What part of independent makes you think 'anti-town' is a negative factor.

Again I am WILLING TO LOSE for the jesters. With the jesters/indies controlling the votes we can co-ordinate a jester win 1 by 1 until we're left with 1 mafia and 1 (me). Mafia wins, all jesters win and town goes to the corner and cries.

But it is essential that all the town is voted off/night killed now so we can set this up as soon as possible. And remember being confirmed jester means nothing when it's all jesters all day. But yeah, jesters take a good hard look at what will happen if you follow the town path. You are intentionally throwing away your game.
Rantai
ebwop (or whatever it is) - mafia, all jesters and myself win*
Salvage

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

...What? I fail to see how this works out. Hell, I could be mafia wanting to get you lynched. You don't know that. You can't just ASSUME that everyone that's not on the no-lynch wagon is a jester.


Yes i can cause that No-Lynch situation benefits mafia too and the jesters are the only ones that doesn't help.
DeathxShinigami
I'm feeling a little loose right now. How about you Rantai?
Salvage
Again: If jesters vote another jester they'll end up being all confirmed then mafia kills another jester and they're not mayority anymore.
If the jesters vote town they'll still be mayority for one day more so 2 jesters win is the end-up result and the rest will automatically lose for being confirmed.



The only choice for jesters unless they want to give up they win to another jester is to go along with the No-Lynch plan and hope to be randomly lynched later on, otherwise they'll lose either way, your choice.
Rantai
Basically it comes down to this everyone

--> Follow the path of the Jester and reap the benefits of a guaranteed win for your faction*

--> Very coordinated lynches

--> A chance to show that town that them winning is laughable and all that jazz

Or

--> Follow the path of the town and have a slim chance of winning and hope they mislynch badly

--> No lynch like it's the new cool thing and let yourself be exposed one by one

--> Derp

*town not included
Rantai

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I'm feeling a little loose right now. How about you Rantai?
I feel frisky.
Rantai
Anyway going to sleep.

Vote [1] Salvage

For the "Screw you town, I want to win" party.
Salvage

Rantai wrote:

Basically it comes down to this everyone

--> Follow the path of the Jester and reap the benefits of a guaranteed win for your faction* ---> Following this path after the first Jester lynch the rest of the Jesters will be confirmed, mafia kills a Jester and then you're not mayority anymore, you can't keep up with the plan, and you all lose.

--> Very coordinated lynches ---> 2 maximum.

--> A chance to show that town that them winning is laughable and all that jazz ----> Wrong.





Or

--> Follow the path of the town and have a slim chance of winning and hope they mislynch badly ----> Best choice for jesters duh.

--> No lynch like it's the new cool thing and let yourself be exposed one by one ----> ??

--> Derp ---> Herp.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
You know, I think it's best to mix the two together. The first step of idea one is indeed stupid, because all jesters will NOT win if they all take out the townies. I think it's just better to simply lynch people left and right, and have cops (Salvage/anyone else, if there is another one) search for the jesters/mafia and simply make another lynch based off of those results.

Simple. Take out all the mafia with cop searches. Even if a jester slips on by and wins, who cares? (Other than you, Salvage)
Salvage
^


Not applicable neither from the Town's side, since Jesters will focus lynching themselves giving town no chances of lynching mafia and letting mafia freelly kill all the townies/rest of the jesters and giving a few jesters, mafia and the indie a free win (not every jester will win anyways since mafia can kill some jesters and townies in the proccess).
Salvage
From town's perspective the only and best choice is the one i already suggested, and if jesters try to avoid it it's their lose anyways and the win of only 2 of them maximum so i'll stick to it still ^___^.
Sync
I want to kill Rantai
Drakari_old
Wait a minute... Salvage's strategy is great for someone who is town and wants only the town (And none else) to win, but I don't even care who wins as long as I survive. No lynch is BAD for me since the game won't end for a long time unless lynches happen.

Unvote: No-lynch
Vote: Salvage


Mainly just because you're the closest to dying.
Wojjan
vote salvage I can deal with this
DeathxShinigami
Unvote
Vote Salvage

Target Locked. Target. Rangers.
Salvage

Drakari wrote:

Wait a minute... Salvage's strategy is great for someone who is town and wants only the town (And none else) to win, but I don't even care who wins as long as I survive. No lynch is BAD for me since the game won't end for a long time unless lynches happen.

Unvote: No-lynch
Vote: Salvage


Mainly just because you're the closest to dying.


Are you the other independant?



Are you mafia?




The thing is if you lynch me town will lose, if there is no way we can arrange some jester wins and a town win but i'd rather not.



I want town and town only to win, but if that's not acchievable i still want town to win so we can give some jesters the win and then hunt mafia, we can't give every jester the win cause that'll go to the mafia side instead, so regarding that i might have to drop the no jester win thing since it's probabbly not gonna happen with this bullshit iniciative.





Lynching a Town is no good for jesters, and it's not good for town .. from Rantai's perspective and his point of view, he wants Jesters to get together and LYNCH JESTERS, so why are you guys voting me? .. i'm like the most logical person in the entire game lmao this is just non sense.
Salvage
The part i don't get is and i want to make this VERY CLEAR, is that if everyone voting me is Jesters and they agreed with Rantai's suggestin then:

- Why are you guys lynching town over Jesters if the idea is to lynch every Jester and give every Jester a win along any other faction?




- Jesters need jesters lynches.

- Town needs everything but town lynches (yeah i want to win, if that jester thing is not gonna happen i can't be stubborn about it and lose).

- Mafia needs town lynches.





So from this perspective everyone who voted me is being pro-mafia and just pro-mafia in any sort of way, i'm willing to contribute with a fiew jester wins if we let it very clear that Town has priority over mafia and if we find one then we'll lynch him by any means.




Really take in mind my points above cause to be honest the only good outcome from my lynch is to mafia and mafia only, and since there is only 4 mafias in this game there is for sure someone who's doing it wrong.
Sync
let's kill rantai plz I think he is mafia
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'm pretty sure we can handle things without you for once, Salvage. Besides, how many times have you gotten killed/lynched early on?

A lot.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Sync wrote:

let's kill rantai plz I think he is mafia
Weak. Boring. No evidence. What is this nonsensical bullshit.

Plus the fact that you've been saying pretty much the same thing over and over again makes me think you're a lyncher.
Hernan
What's going on in this game?
Salvage

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I'm pretty sure we can handle things without you for once, Salvage. Besides, how many times have you gotten killed/lynched early on?

A lot.

No you cannot.



And what is your argument anyways?



"Hey you're town, you're good but i can do it without you!! i'll kill you to proove i'm good!!!!"



Dude that doesn't even make sense, if you're town you can't kill another town with that shitty argument, i gave this game a lot of information already and i don't give a fuck if you can go on with or without me, lynching me is pro-mafia AND PRO-MAFIA ONLY, there are 4 over 24 players who are mafia in this game, i really suggest you all think twice this cause it's really stupid.
Dusty
Hey Drakari did you just claim survivor too?
vote: Drakari

I find it likely that either you or rantai is SK now
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Salvage wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I'm pretty sure we can handle things without you for once, Salvage. Besides, how many times have you gotten killed/lynched early on?

A lot.

No you cannot.



And what is your argument anyways?



"Hey you're town, you're good but i can do it without you!! i'll kill you to proove i'm good!!!!"



Dude that doesn't even make sense, if you're town you can't kill another town with that shitty argument, i gave this game a lot of information already and i don't give a fuck if you can go on with or without me, lynching me is pro-mafia AND PRO-MAFIA ONLY, there are 4 over 24 players who are mafia in this game, i really suggest you all think twice this cause it's really stupid.
People are just as likely to win with you as without you, to be honest.
Salvage

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Sync wrote:

let's kill rantai plz I think he is mafia
Weak. Boring. No evidence. What is this nonsensical bullshit.

Plus the fact that you've been saying pretty much the same thing over and over again makes me think you're a lyncher.



The irony, you're trying the same with me with less evidence, actually you're evidence and sence in my lynch is negative perse, it can't be worse and there's actually more evidence to kill Rantai than me.
Salvage
Look who says so, ironically the opposite of awesome as i am, shut the fuck up and play the game Swift, you're horrible and you have to attain to it, if you're mafia then go on and claim it harder, if you're town think it twice and try atleast a bit to be better in this game, and if you're jester the same applies.
Wojjan
Vote Rantai

probably serial killer, yeah. wanting to focus everything on jester circlejerk and then kill off mafs in the process
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Also,
Prod: Lilac (Last post: 5 days ago), Rukarioman (..He's in this game? o_O He never posted)

Seriously, how did these two get on by with at least five days of not saying anything?
Dusty
On second thought unvote vote: rantai yeah
Salvage
unvote, vote Rantai
Sync
ty

lynching salvage is stupid especially because he's the most active player and this game would probably more dead w/o him

making it less fun
Mashley
Actually no salvage I'm voting you because you're mafia
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..Tempting, Mashley, temping.

Unvote
Salvage
I can basically answer nothing to that since you're not saying why and it leads nowhere.
bmin11
Goddamnit with your WIFOM. Oh well, if you are Jester, well played being absolutely annoying and confusing.

Vote: Rantai
Topic Starter
Mara
VOTE STATUS

Rantai (5) - Sync, Wojjan, Dusty, Salvage, bmin11
No Lynch (4) - Ekaru, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (4) - Mashley, Rantai, Drakari, DeathxShinigami
Sync (1) - Lybydose

You better not tell me are mistakes.

EDIT: NINJA'D
Salvage
Rantai (5)
No Lynch (4)



unless bmin is a double voter or smt
Topic Starter
Mara
I find it funny that every status I have posted in this game have been wrong in some way.
Drakari_old
unvote
vote Rantai


And yes, I'm roleclaiming survivor which means any time somebody else dies I get closer to winning.
Salvage
do you drakari agree on sharing the win with town and not mafia
LadySuburu
Posting to say I'm still here and reading, but have nothing really to contribute.
Sync
LS are you a jester
LadySuburu

Sync wrote:

LS are you a jester
Why would I answer that in any scenario?
bmin11
you can't even lie or tell the truth? Okay.
LadySuburu

bmin11 wrote:

you can't even lie or tell the truth? Okay.
A question like it is pointless to answer and will always be full of wifom. Just like when asking someone if they're mafia in a normal game, which I've said basically that exact same response to before.
bmin11
Though, I don't see how it could ever be a problem to say your alignment. It gives away nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why so secretive?
LadySuburu

bmin11 wrote:

Though, I don't see how it could ever be a problem to say your alignment. It gives away nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why so secretive?
"Are you jester?"

I say no.

I'm town being truthful.
I'm mafia being truthful.
I'm jester lying.
I'm third party being truthful.

Any of the above could have other plans behind why I say no, on top of the obvious.



I say yes.

I'm town lying. (Maybe I have a power role? Mafia is looking for town.)
I'm mafia lying. (Oh hey, don't lynch me I'm jester.)
I'm jester telling the truth. (Jester would never claim jester, right?)
I'm third party lying. (Oh hey, don't lynch me I'm jester.)

Or other reasons I could claim jester.


It's a bunch of wifom.


It would be much easier for me to say yes/no, but I always have and always will hate being asked that question as there's absolutely no point to asking it. Therefore, I will generally respond exactally like this every time I'm asked it, until people stop asking it. (I've been asked before.)


------------------------------------

On the topic of the game: I doubt bmin's town. Leaning mafia/third over jester.
Salvage
LS are you a jester
LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

LS are you a jester
I'm the mod.

SPOILER
Oh no I'm contradicting myself by not responding the same way!

AND I'm lying!


:D
Salvage
Ok now seriously, why are you not voting rantai
LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

Ok now seriously, why are you not voting rantai
Cause I think Rantai's clever enough to pull off being that bold while a jester to trick us into voting and lynching her with a no-lynch plan claiming survivor.

So basically, I'm not voting rantai cause I'm too busy wifoming it in my head. I'm more convinced that rantai's a jester than a third party.

If it were one of the newer players I wouldn't be worried.
Salvage
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.

If anything, I'd think our third party would look like:

SK
Cult
Lyncher

Maybe survivor instead of cult, as I'm not sure mara would use cult, and it'd be pretty powerful in this game.
LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

Salvage wrote:

Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.

If anything, I'd think our third party would look like:

SK
Cult
Lyncher

Maybe survivor instead of cult, as I'm not sure mara would use cult, and it'd be pretty powerful in this game.
Scratch the bottom, I re-read the OP and saw it said 2 3rd party instead of three. Just remove cult and that looks right to me. SK + Lyncher.
Drakari_old

Salvage wrote:

do you drakari agree on sharing the win with town and not mafia
I prefer the town over the mafia, since the town has no reason to kill me at all.
Salvage
Cool then we can procced, i'm cool with winning with Drakari



we'll need to scan him eventually anyways to be sure he's not mafia .. but for now we'll need the rest of the ppl to vote for rantai, i'm going to sleep guys cya tommorrow ^__^.
Sync
maybe LS and Rantai are scum buddies
bmin11
@LS
lol I love how we both agree that the answer won't give away anything, and yet we somehow argue. Anyway, I get your point that you were annoyed by those questions kk
Rantai
What the hell guys.

You're taking Drakari's word over mine? >_>

Seriously though lynching me will put the indies/jesters into parity and really the only way you're going to win is through sheer luck at that point.
Salvage
^

Explain that cause i don't get it .. you were propposing a similar lynch on a town member, lynching an indie is no different than that and it actually could go with town and jesters together. (yes i already stated that i don't care about some jesters winning cause well we can't do a perfect win anyways)
Rantai
Once town eliminates all mafia and non jesters, game over.

If all town are eliminated, the game can continue onto meta jester lynching and dual win all indies and mafia (+jester)

But hey whatever, your choice.
Mianki
Vote: Salvage
Salvage
k


Miakni = Mafia.




Rantai himself says that the only ones that could be in favor of that are mafia, Jesters can win with town too and i'm up to that, the amount of Jesters that can win with town are higher that the ones that can win with Mafia, mafia needs to kill 7 towns and town needs to kill 4 mafia, aka more jester lynches available right there


So voting me is mafia, and there goes Mianki softclaim, Rantai is being mafia too right now so i don't acre if he's indie, he's playing for maria and should be lynched.
Rantai
Maria~

Anyway anyone voting for Salvage is for everyone BUT town. Mafia, indie, whatever. You can call them mafia all you want but it doesn't change that fact.

And again in the end, it's in the best interests of all factions not called town to go along with lynching town. Because think about it. Maybe 1 jester will win if you follow town. And mafia only has a 50/50 chance to win.

But if you like following the whims of town then by all means shoot your foot.
Salvage
You don't argument anything rantai and you're actually wrong, i stated it on the previous post:


Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact



I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.
Mashley
laughing so fucking hard
'anyone who votes for me is mafia'
are you taking the piss?
Rantai

Salvage wrote:

Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact

Town: No lynch, no lynch, no lynch, no lycnh... oh oops. If town successfully lynch ALL mafia, they automatically win unless there is an SK. IF the mafia decide to work with the jesters (possible, no idea if they will) then lynching ALL town leaves the jesters and mafia free to lynch all the jesters. See the pattern? Try again.



I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.

So far you have spouted information that ONLY benefits town. Again, try again.
Salvage
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wtf are you saying Rantai, if Mafia kills all the Town they win too, think before posting omg o.o




I'm saying everything about this game, i want to win with town but i allways said all the possibilties this game has.
Rantai
Mafia requires a 50% majority.

Last I checked 13 indies and 4 mafia is NOT majority.
Rantai
Oh unless Mara decided to put in the 50% against town. Then we'd need one town member alive.

Any mafia ballsy enough to tell us the win condition?
Rantai
For the record, I doubt it's tied to town.
Salvage
I myself tell you that regardless of how the facts are i'm willing to give jesters a win, you're looking at things from facts, we have to lynch 4 mafia and we have a lot of misslynches that we can use to give Jesters a win, you're basing all your argument on me wanting a no lynch to not give jesters any win, that changed and i'm willing to do so, and your argument becames invalid



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With that said when i say that everyone who votes me is mafia i'm actually right cause it's not on anyone else agenda to kill town, actually if you're point would in any paralel world make sense and actually be better than mine, you should be aiming for a jester lynch right now and not a Town one (unless you're mafia, and of course u want to lynch a town .. see how my point makes sense here?.)



Anyways it doesn't and unless you want to not play against jesters and town, you won't be able to win.
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