Anyway going to sleep.
Vote [1] Salvage
For the "Screw you town, I want to win" party.
Vote [1] Salvage
For the "Screw you town, I want to win" party.
Rantai wrote:
Basically it comes down to this everyone
--> Follow the path of the Jester and reap the benefits of a guaranteed win for your faction* ---> Following this path after the first Jester lynch the rest of the Jesters will be confirmed, mafia kills a Jester and then you're not mayority anymore, you can't keep up with the plan, and you all lose.
--> Very coordinated lynches ---> 2 maximum.
--> A chance to show that town that them winning is laughable and all that jazz ----> Wrong.
Or
--> Follow the path of the town and have a slim chance of winning and hope they mislynch badly ----> Best choice for jesters duh.
--> No lynch like it's the new cool thing and let yourself be exposed one by one ----> ??
--> Derp ---> Herp.
Drakari wrote:
Wait a minute... Salvage's strategy is great for someone who is town and wants only the town (And none else) to win, but I don't even care who wins as long as I survive. No lynch is BAD for me since the game won't end for a long time unless lynches happen.
Unvote: No-lynch
Vote: Salvage
Mainly just because you're the closest to dying.
Weak. Boring. No evidence. What is this nonsensical bullshit.Sync wrote:
let's kill rantai plz I think he is mafia
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'm pretty sure we can handle things without you for once, Salvage. Besides, how many times have you gotten killed/lynched early on?
A lot.
People are just as likely to win with you as without you, to be honest.Salvage wrote:
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'm pretty sure we can handle things without you for once, Salvage. Besides, how many times have you gotten killed/lynched early on?
A lot.
No you cannot.
And what is your argument anyways?
"Hey you're town, you're good but i can do it without you!! i'll kill you to proove i'm good!!!!"
Dude that doesn't even make sense, if you're town you can't kill another town with that shitty argument, i gave this game a lot of information already and i don't give a fuck if you can go on with or without me, lynching me is pro-mafia AND PRO-MAFIA ONLY, there are 4 over 24 players who are mafia in this game, i really suggest you all think twice this cause it's really stupid.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Weak. Boring. No evidence. What is this nonsensical bullshit.Sync wrote:
let's kill rantai plz I think he is mafia
Plus the fact that you've been saying pretty much the same thing over and over again makes me think you're a lyncher.
Why would I answer that in any scenario?Sync wrote:
LS are you a jester
A question like it is pointless to answer and will always be full of wifom. Just like when asking someone if they're mafia in a normal game, which I've said basically that exact same response to before.bmin11 wrote:
you can't even lie or tell the truth? Okay.
"Are you jester?"bmin11 wrote:
Though, I don't see how it could ever be a problem to say your alignment. It gives away nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why so secretive?
I'm the mod.Salvage wrote:
LS are you a jester
Cause I think Rantai's clever enough to pull off being that bold while a jester to trick us into voting and lynching her with a no-lynch plan claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Ok now seriously, why are you not voting rantai
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
Scratch the bottom, I re-read the OP and saw it said 2 3rd party instead of three. Just remove cult and that looks right to me. SK + Lyncher.LadySuburu wrote:
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
If anything, I'd think our third party would look like:
SK
Cult
Lyncher
Maybe survivor instead of cult, as I'm not sure mara would use cult, and it'd be pretty powerful in this game.
I prefer the town over the mafia, since the town has no reason to kill me at all.Salvage wrote:
do you drakari agree on sharing the win with town and not mafia
Salvage wrote:
Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact
Town: No lynch, no lynch, no lynch, no lycnh... oh oops. If town successfully lynch ALL mafia, they automatically win unless there is an SK. IF the mafia decide to work with the jesters (possible, no idea if they will) then lynching ALL town leaves the jesters and mafia free to lynch all the jesters. See the pattern? Try again.
I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.
So far you have spouted information that ONLY benefits town. Again, try again.
As you love to say. Show me your evidence so I can shoot you down like no tomorrow.Salvage wrote:
Fluff that has been covered.
My word means what it shows, i don't know what do you mean when you say 'your word means nothing', you're aregument is invalid when it loses effectivity against mine, not cause it's yours and not mine.
Salvage wrote:
There goes your argument again, you say mafia could do a no kill (what the fuck? ..) and help jesters win and then you say that i can backpedal on what i'm saying and screw jesters (which i won't btw), the mafia one not doing a no kill is way higher than me actually helping Jesters, cause if i don't i get lynched and that's it.
Implying you are the whole town and they will follow you. Also implying you aren't capable of lying. Both of which cannot be proven (well first can). I wish I could say the mafia are integral but I cannot claim such things. However, going this path (for the mafia) guarantees their win while also opening the opportunity to let all jesters win. Worst case scenario the mafia will still have to follow through with keeping the jesters alive until all town are dead from there at least half of the jesters can still win (if not more). Oh unless they really want to pull an ass move and shoot jesters at night which then becomes exactly what you propose (win-win anyone?)
And again (for what the 10th time?) if they follow the town then they're going to have to hope to hell that town cannot scumhunt for their life (because they'd have to mislynch at least 6 times to equal the minimum number of jesters to win from the alternative, assuming mafia are smart enough to wait for all town lynches) and they are also under threat from mafia random shooting
You still have time to change sides, i don't know why you're so stubborn with mafia when it's not the best choice at all, town can give more jester wins than mafia and you still siding with mafia points pro-mafia and pro-mafia only, i don't know how many times i said it already .. i have to study right now so i'll make some extra time later to post
Why would I change side for the option that gives the least chance to win to the most factions? I addressed the second part above.
Mashley wrote:
Salvage you're not confirmed town for christ's sake
In fact scratch that you're not town at all, you're mafia
Hey Rantai you're a survivor why don't you just
y'know
survive
And now you're not even reading what I'm saying. I expected WAYYYY better reading comprehension.Salvage wrote:
About you Rantai, i could quote part of what i already said cause you keep saying the same things over and over, i already said why what you're saying doesn't work and stuff .. so we may as well leave the facts on the table and let people decide what they think it's the best and safest path to follow, since we're never gonna agree on the methods. (Rantai mafia anyone?).
(Town can give more jester wins than Mafia in the hypotetical case Mafia ACTUALLY HELPS JESTERS, i already said that in my posts and i'm actually pretty tired of pointing this, you keep saying that i can lie, mafia can too and you can't base anything in that cause it's the same case in Mafia than town, in case Mafia helps and in case Town helps, more Jesters can win with town, enough said .. discussing this became really annoyiyng cause i'm bringing the same stuff over and over and you keep going on the same stuff again .. endless loop and i don't have time for this bs).
If me claiming jester makes you believe me then by all means think I am a jester. The agenda stays the same.pieguy1372 wrote:
Rantai is a jester who claimed independent with a crazy-ass anti-town plan so someone would lynch him.
Rantai wrote:
And now you're not even reading what I'm saying. I expected WAYYYY better reading comprehension.
I've already pointed out exactly where you are wrong and how (hypothetically) that following it is the most beneficial path. So unless you want to dumbfound me with your math and 'logic' I'm going to assume you're against it solely because it does not benefit you.
Rantai is wrong though, lynching you because he wants to lynch town would be a spectacularly bad decision because you're not town.Salvage wrote:
This is all from Ratani's point of view, he already said from the very beginning that he thinks i'm town and he's basing the i-want-to-lynch-salvage cause he thinks lynching town is the best option, they're not my words, they're rantai's
God damn it!Mashley wrote:
Rantai is wrong though, lynching you because he wants to lynch town would be a spectacularly bad decision because you're not town.
Mashley wrote:
Rantai is wrong though, lynching you because he wants to lynch town would be a spectacularly bad decision because you're not town.Salvage wrote:
This is all from Ratani's point of view, he already said from the very beginning that he thinks i'm town and he's basing the i-want-to-lynch-salvage cause he thinks lynching town is the best option, they're not my words, they're rantai's