So it should be specificated in the rule;Gonzvlo wrote:
I've already explained that it's not an exception to a rule, it's about a "bug" on taiko. The correct BPM is 360.
Would somebody tell me what's the problem again, please D:?
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Actually, it is?Gonzvlo wrote:
I've already explained that it's not an exception to a rule, it's about a "bug" on taiko.?
No matter how many times I read it, I don't see anything about "taiko bug" in the rule itself.
*runs*
All BATs should have made a conference or discussion about their opinions on this beatmap before it gets approved, so that we could avoid debates like this right after this beatmap gets approved. I see BATs contradict each other, so I guess this should be done.
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3 BATs (well 2 BATs and 1 MAT) thought this map was approvable in that state, and so it got approved in that state, that's the point of the bubbles before Rank/Approve.Philippines wrote:
All BATs should have made a conference or discussion about their opinions on this beatmap before it gets approved, so that we could avoid debates like this right after this beatmap gets approved. I see BATs contradict each other, so I guess this should be done.
Oh, you misunderstood. Let me sum it upElfice wrote:
Actually, it is?Gonzvlo wrote:
I've already explained that it's not an exception to a rule, it's about a "bug" on taiko.?
No matter how many times I read it, I don't see anything about "taiko bug" in the rule itself.
*runs*
- Correct BPM: 360 (Because 720 messes up with Kiai and Menu Pulses)
- Why Taiko uses different BPM?: Because "Hidden" it's impossible using 360.
- Is this an exception to a rule?: No, it's just a way to "fix" a bug.
- Who is the one to blame?: "The Quick Brown Fox" for composing that song.
Hopefully, that will help.
Are you guys deaf or you can't hear it's 180 bpm? (/)_-)
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I'm sorry? Renard himself said this was 720BPM, not 180.Elfice wrote:
Are you guys deaf or you can't hear it's 180 bpm? (/)_-)
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Yes you're right. But this beatmap should have more priorities on BATs since this beatmap has something that other beatmaps don't have.. I know not all BATs agree about getting this approved (like CNF, although he's already an alumni, he still has rights). So basically, If all BATs can attend the same conference due to time differences, I suggest this beatmap should gather half of all BATs to discuss about this issue until this gets fixed.Sakura Hana wrote:
3 BATs (well 2 BATs and 1 MAT) thought this map was approvable in that state, and so it got approved in that state, that's the point of the bubbles before Rank/Approve.Philippines wrote:
All BATs should have made a conference or discussion about their opinions on this beatmap before it gets approved, so that we could avoid debates like this right after this beatmap gets approved. I see BATs contradict each other, so I guess this should be done.
Then map it 720 cos Renard said soBlue Dragon wrote:
I'm sorry? Renard himself said this was 720BPM, not 180.Elfice wrote:
Are you guys deaf or you can't hear it's 180 bpm? (/)_-)
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I wonder why people blame BD for the errors on Taiko when Ono should take responsibility for his own diff? lol
EDIT: Calling the attention of Ono.
EDIT: Calling the attention of Ono.
viewtopic.php?p=1335890#p1335890Philippines wrote:
I wonder why people blame BD for the errors on Taiko when Ono should take responsibility for his own diff? lol
EDIT: Calling the attention of Ono.
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Seriously, read the thread and the reasons why I put 360BPM. Don't make this harder than it should be.Elfice wrote:
Then map it 720 cos Renard said soBlue Dragon wrote:
I'm sorry? Renard himself said this was 720BPM, not 180.
Tip: Read the WHOLE discussion before posting, please. Thanks for your attention!Gonzvlo wrote:
Let me sum it up
- Correct BPM: 360 (Because 720 messes up with Kiai and Menu Pulses)
- Why Taiko uses different BPM?: Because "Hidden" it's impossible using 360.
- Is this an exception to a rule?: No, it's just a way to "fix" a bug.
- Who is the one to blame?: "The Quick Brown Fox" for composing that song.
Hopefully, that will help.
I'm not really contented about your post. You should follow SH's suggestion. Change the taiko bug. But if you can't. Remap it then.OnosakiHito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1335890#p1335890
Just implying that there is not even need for 360 bpm...Blue Dragon wrote:
Seriously, read the thread and the reasons why I put 360BPM. Don't make this harder than it should be.
Also "change rules so my map doesn't have to be unranked" topic made my day
EDIT: night
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I'm not saying to change the rules because THIS map is ranked. If you fucking READ the thread before, you would know that the issue here is NOT having other maps that do the same thing ranked.Elfice wrote:
Just implying that there is not even need for 360 bpm...Blue Dragon wrote:
Seriously, read the thread and the reasons why I put 360BPM. Don't make this harder than it should be.
Also "change rules so my map doesn't have to be unranked" topic made my day
EDIT: night
<3 bd
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I'm way too mad to continue this crap. People can't understand certain things. If possible, lock the thread and continue the discussion in the other thread. I'm seriously tired of people who can't understand my reasons and just bash on me for something I didn't do.
Who died and made you BAT? This is getting quite silly at this point since the BPM difference doesn't actually affect gameplay.Philippines wrote:
I'm not really contented about your post. You should follow SH's suggestion. Change the taiko bug. But if you can't. Remap it then.OnosakiHito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1335890#p1335890
Who died and made you BAT? This is getting quite silly at this point since the BPM difference doesn't actually affect gameplay.[/quote][Lance] wrote:
I'm not really contented about your post. You should follow SH's suggestion. Change the taiko bug. But if you can't. Remap it then.
I'm a BAT? D: I'm talking about the bug. We're not meeting the same point. lol
Um, you realize that it's not a bug because of how it was mapped but because of how Taiko's Hidden mod works?Philippines wrote:
I'm not really contented about your post. You should follow SH's suggestion. Change the taiko bug. But if you can't. Remap it then.OnosakiHito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1335890#p1335890
So peppy would be the only one who could fix it.
Philippines wrote:
I'm not really contented about your post. You should follow SH's suggestion. Change the taiko bug. But if you can't. Remap it then.OnosakiHito wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1335890#p1335890
Sakura Hana wrote:
I only see 2 options here:
1. Unapprove the map, force mapper to use half the BPM and double slider velocity and tickrate and get 3 new MAT/BAT to reapprove it
2. Let it be
- Suggestions for osu!.Sakura Hana wrote:
From what i see the only solution to this is to halve BPM for osu!standard and double the SV for the EXACT SAME FRICKEN MAP, is it worth that much trouble for a number that appears on the song listing?
Edit: Also i want to clarify i dont like nor agree with exception to rules since the ones that are supposed to have expcetions are guidelines but the map's already approved, are u gonna just unrank it to fix a number?
- I can't fix it without scripting.
- If I fix it, it isn't fitting the taiko guidelines/rules anymore. And that's not the fault of the Taiko community that we are not allowed to do so.
I suggest to read the whole thread, too.
I'm not more specific because many things are allready mentioned before.
Guys, we're not getting anywhere...
I'll lock the thread for some minutes so everybody has the chance to keep up with the discussion, aka read the WHOLE thread before posting. Afterwards, it will be unlocked again. Remember to stay calm and explain your thoughts in a civil manner, please. (Troll/Spam/Pointless posts will be removed, this is the last warning)
I think I will quote myself one more time.
I'll lock the thread for some minutes so everybody has the chance to keep up with the discussion, aka read the WHOLE thread before posting. Afterwards, it will be unlocked again. Remember to stay calm and explain your thoughts in a civil manner, please. (Troll/Spam/Pointless posts will be removed, this is the last warning)
I think I will quote myself one more time.
Gonzvlo wrote:
To sum it up:
- Correct BPM: 360 (Because 720 messes up with Kiai and Menu Pulses)
- Why Taiko uses different BPM?: Because "Hidden" it's impossible using 360.
- Is this an exception to a rule?: No, it's just a way to "fix" a bug.
- Who is the one to blame?: "The Quick Brown Fox" for composing that song.
Okay guys, let's try this again.
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And I'm done.
chill bd dont mind them
my response to a map I don't like is not playing it.
I won't play this map, but that's as far as it goes. Nobody cares, and nobody is hurt
I won't play this map, but that's as far as it goes. Nobody cares, and nobody is hurt
i thought games were meant to be fun
This game is competition apparently.
/thread.
I see no point in further arguing/debating/whatever you want to call it-ing anymore.
I see no point in further arguing/debating/whatever you want to call it-ing anymore.
The map itself is very nice Blue Dragon.
It is very very hard... and of course, it was approved.
I see no point in arguing over this. An approved map will not affect your rank score.
If you don't like the map guys, then don't play it and go do something more fullfilling than posting complaints here.
Aesthetically speaking, I give the map a 9.7/10. Must have been a hard job to polish all those patterns.
Good job Blue Dragon.
I managed to pass the first couple of streams and then died, but I still love the catchy mp3
It is very very hard... and of course, it was approved.
I see no point in arguing over this. An approved map will not affect your rank score.
If you don't like the map guys, then don't play it and go do something more fullfilling than posting complaints here.
Aesthetically speaking, I give the map a 9.7/10. Must have been a hard job to polish all those patterns.
Good job Blue Dragon.
I managed to pass the first couple of streams and then died, but I still love the catchy mp3
I read from the page 6-this
-~immature~
What do i think?
-I know the ''Rules'' are ''sacred''.. Be followed and blahblahblah. The rules have a Difference at Rkd/App. And I doubt they are finished.. This will serve for future discussion on maps with a elevated Timing.. But Really.. There is no need to insult, etc..
There are many things I see and make me ashamed.. Timing/Gameplay = +/-
I am no one to talk about the rules buy rly.. huh
-~immature~
What do i think?
-I know the ''Rules'' are ''sacred''.. Be followed and blahblahblah. The rules have a Difference at Rkd/App. And I doubt they are finished.. This will serve for future discussion on maps with a elevated Timing.. But Really.. There is no need to insult, etc..
There are many things I see and make me ashamed.. Timing/Gameplay = +/-
I am no one to talk about the rules buy rly.. huh
holy crap
no 360 bpm 1/4-stream D:
Taiko notes aren't completely hidden at 360 bpm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/246284 anyways.
Hidden bug only happens if the map starts out with 100 bpm and then speeds up to 200 bpm, you can fix the bug by placing another 200 bpm section in front of the 100 bpm one, it doesn't affect gameplay and can be used on every difficulty.
Congratulations on getting it approved BD
EDIT: real hidden-bug to compare
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/246293
EDIT2:
Discussion is a bit senseless imo, it's best to leave the mapset as it is.
However I don't see the big deal in adjusting the mapsets bpm if it's really such a big problem.
Doubling the taiko bpm would make it unnecessarily harder to read and play so it would probably be a better idea to halve the standard diffs bpm and let BD double the velocity and tickrate instead.
Just if it's realllllllllly needed.
Hidden bug only happens if the map starts out with 100 bpm and then speeds up to 200 bpm, you can fix the bug by placing another 200 bpm section in front of the 100 bpm one, it doesn't affect gameplay and can be used on every difficulty.
Congratulations on getting it approved BD
EDIT: real hidden-bug to compare
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/246293
EDIT2:
Discussion is a bit senseless imo, it's best to leave the mapset as it is.
However I don't see the big deal in adjusting the mapsets bpm if it's really such a big problem.
Doubling the taiko bpm would make it unnecessarily harder to read and play so it would probably be a better idea to halve the standard diffs bpm and let BD double the velocity and tickrate instead.
Just if it's realllllllllly needed.
hahahaha This is hilarious, Those several pages of quarreling was nothing, cause we don't need to set different uninherited section in this Taiko map at first. (Sorry Onosakihito.)
That bug only occurs when you drop BPM or SV down in the middle of the map. So if BPM was a problem. BPM 360, basic SV 0.7 (or maybe setting to 8/4 to remove annoying bar lines) makes no bug, completely ok to play.
Lack of... professionals in Taiko, I guess?
EDIT: I only meant fade-in bug. hidden bug also happens in raising BPM.
That bug only occurs when you drop BPM or SV down in the middle of the map. So if BPM was a problem. BPM 360, basic SV 0.7 (or maybe setting to 8/4 to remove annoying bar lines) makes no bug, completely ok to play.
Lack of... professionals in Taiko, I guess?
EDIT: I only meant fade-in bug. hidden bug also happens in raising BPM.
It happens in both cases lepidopodus