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Yes, Chris has to be mafia because he called you Town.
Lilac is also Mafia.
Well ok. But I'm pretty sure all 3 of you are mafias.
also I'm probably gonna die tonight from being too good so make sure to watch me~
Well you wanted me to explain my gambit and I did.Chris wrote:
come on now nohitter even you know quoting the wiki like it's some sort of evidence is scummy
How is quoting the wiki scummy?
You just say it is, but give no justification whatsoever.
using the wiki as evidence is just a cop out, especially when your supposed gambit wasn't even close to the page you linked
town don't have to look up bad strategies to scum hunt, but mafia do as an excuse for being bad
town don't have to look up bad strategies to scum hunt, but mafia do as an excuse for being bad
Fong's Gambit = Vote yourself -> Entice scum to vote for you -> Vote for them
My Gambit (Modified Fong's) = Act scummy -> Entice people to vote for you -> Vote for the people who just "bandwagoned" without giving any reasoning/ parroted other's reasoning
How exactly are they very different?
My Gambit (Modified Fong's) = Act scummy -> Entice people to vote for you -> Vote for the people who just "bandwagoned" without giving any reasoning/ parroted other's reasoning
How exactly are they very different?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
how about the fact voting for yourself doesn't make you a target or look like scum
looking like scum makes you a target, and you know, look like scum
their reasoning is the fact you act like scum
how hard is that to grasp
how about the fact voting for yourself doesn't make you a target or look like scum
looking like scum makes you a target, and you know, look like scum
their reasoning is the fact you act like scum
how hard is that to grasp
You have it wrong.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
I pretty much tried this gambit with rust's Kinda Experimental Mafia. It worked until Rantai was being shifty like always.
I do admit though, it is kinda stupid...
I do admit though, it is kinda stupid...
Sorry, flight called 
Anyway I just landed and got home so I should get back to normal activity now.
Anyway I just landed and got home so I should get back to normal activity now.
The problem with that is that most people tend to just vote willy-nilly anyway especially on day 1. If my memory serves right simply saying that particular people may have a mafia role will automatically get a bandwagon started on you despite the alignment of said voters. As far as I am concerned that doesn't constitute reasoning.NoHItter wrote:
You have it wrong.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
So the gambit itself is full of flaws.
I don't think the gambit is a flaw because I managed to pull it off once.
I think the flaw is how and where it's used. My personal opinion though.
I think the flaw is how and where it's used. My personal opinion though.
I was referring to this particular gambit.
that gambit sucks in any situation
it's pretty much how to suck at mafia 101
it's pretty much how to suck at mafia 101
I'd say it could work in other situations but not with this community and time of day.
Also where the hell is Two?
I can only see 1 RVS vote and that's it.
Also where the hell is Two?
I can only see 1 RVS vote and that's it.
Topic Starter
Wojjan-Sucks-at-Votals Votals
NoHItter - 3 - dkun, Chris, Sync
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
Backfire - 1 - Two
dkun - 1 - NoHItter
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
With twelve alive, seven is a majority.
NoHItter - 3 - dkun, Chris, Sync
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
Backfire - 1 - Two
dkun - 1 - NoHItter
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
With twelve alive, seven is a majority.
03. Rantai
05. bmin11
08. Backfire
09. Mashley
you guys should vote
05. bmin11
08. Backfire
09. Mashley
you guys should vote
I'm not confident enough on any lead right now. I'm not going to throw out a vote with the same weight as a RV.
lynching the only person to do anything d1 is the osu way
don't you know that
don't you know that
God is this another post restriction gambit thing.
It's always that or bulletproof x.x
It's always that or bulletproof x.x
Vote : NoHitter
Happy nowwww
Happy nowwww
Claim: Cop
Song: Reach Out To The Truth
I was fairly confident that I wouldn't get lynched because of this claim.
Sucks though that I had to use it.
Song: Reach Out To The Truth
I was fairly confident that I wouldn't get lynched because of this claim.
Sucks though that I had to use it.
Vote dkun guys.
He should be scum following my logic.
He should be scum following my logic.
anyone who doesn't switch their vote is mafia
also nohitter even though your role is easy to lie about if you're mafia which is convenient, if you don't die within the next day or so you're obviously mafia
if there is another cop scan him
also nohitter even though your role is easy to lie about if you're mafia which is convenient, if you don't die within the next day or so you're obviously mafia
if there is another cop scan him
Unvote, Vote : dkun
c:
c:
Wrong Chris.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
wrong nohitter.NoHItter wrote:
Wrong Chris.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
there can just be no cop
which is especially likely in a 12 person game
So basically, you're saying that if scum doesn't kill me, I'm scum?
That's faulty logic, given the fact that we may actually have a doctor who could protect me.
Scum would want to target the doctor first before killing me since the doctor would 90% protect the claimed cop. (Follow the Cop strategy)
That's faulty logic, given the fact that we may actually have a doctor who could protect me.
Scum would want to target the doctor first before killing me since the doctor would 90% protect the claimed cop. (Follow the Cop strategy)
Claim: Even-Niight Tracker
Song: Sunday Morning - Maroon 5
ok guys
Song: Sunday Morning - Maroon 5
ok guys
unvote
nohitters probably gonna get lynched anyways
I don't see you being even night on here and odd night in another game, but ok
nohitters probably gonna get lynched anyways
I don't see you being even night on here and odd night in another game, but ok
neither do I, but I get what I get
noh is so scum wtf kind of logic is that
noh is so scum wtf kind of logic is that
Oh crap. That explains why Wojjan "balanced" my role.
dkun, can you confirm that you were once a full Tracker, then Wojjan changed it to even-night?
Wojjan did something similar to me.
dkun, can you confirm that you were once a full Tracker, then Wojjan changed it to even-night?
Wojjan did something similar to me.
nada, even night from the start
but it was "edited" once, so nfi
also itt noh trying to divert attention off the fact that he's most likely scum
Hmm I was a Cop then Wojjan "rebalanced" my role into an Odd-Night Cop.
I claimed Cop just in case scum had a roleblocker, so they would continuously roleblock me.
If I had just claimed Odd-Night Cop from the start, they would have just roleblocked me every Odd-Night to prevent an investigation.
Ahh w/e. Looks like the investigative roles are now screwed.
Unvote
I claimed Cop just in case scum had a roleblocker, so they would continuously roleblock me.
If I had just claimed Odd-Night Cop from the start, they would have just roleblocked me every Odd-Night to prevent an investigation.
Ahh w/e. Looks like the investigative roles are now screwed.
Unvote
Topic Starter
We interrupt these votals
NoHItter - 2 - dkun, Sync
dkun - 2 - Two, Backfire
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
NoHItter - 2 - dkun, Sync
dkun - 2 - Two, Backfire
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
vote sync
vote sync he was on earlier and didn't post
vote sync he was on earlier and didn't post
true I've been lurking like hell mostly because I don't feel like posting
but at least I don't log in as invisible like some people
but at least I don't log in as invisible like some people
you don't even have to be logged in to view these forums so it makes no difference
nice try though
nice try though
you got me
also I don't believe NoHItter's claim about Wojjan changing his role afterr it was given out
also I don't believe NoHItter's claim about Wojjan changing his role afterr it was given out
I do because dkun said the same thingSync wrote:
you got me
also I don't believe NoHItter's claim about Wojjan changing his role afterr it was given out
actually that was paraphrasing gone wrong dkun never said it was tiny
well fuck
you edited your post in under 48 seconds when I saw you post that
seems planned
seems planned
I didn't edit
Vote: Sync
Back to my original vote.
You also voted me with little reasoning.
Back to my original vote.
You also voted me with little reasoning.
because you were scummy and then admitted to it
yeah nohitter was terrible but so were you
also you haven't claimed which is surprising considering dkun and nohitter both did and got unvoted
also you haven't claimed which is surprising considering dkun and nohitter both did and got unvoted
Pushing another mass claim?
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
anotherRantai wrote:
Pushing another mass claim?
Don't do it.
Sorry, lumping you and Two together passively.
Chris wrote:
yeah nohitter was terrible but so were you
also you haven't claimed which is surprising considering dkun and nohitter both did and got unvoted
so mean to meanyways, I shouldn't have to. NoHItter's reason for voting for me was "hypocrisy" and "constantly switching between votes" during RVS...
it was so stupid, not even sure what was going through his head at the time
it was retarded but he's a cop and that'd be a bad lynch
and dkuns comment makes me think he's probably town
and dkuns comment makes me think he's probably town
well, do you have any other ideas?
and you're saying that it is because he is inactive/lurking?
okay... what do other people think about this?
okay... what do other people think about this?
no really I just wanted to see what if you'd go along with it instantly
but your second sentence seems forced anyways
this would be a lot easier if more than a forth of the game was playing
but your second sentence seems forced anyways
this would be a lot easier if more than a forth of the game was playing
I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not
Okay NoHItter's gambit was terrible but obv we can't lych him.
Best lynches right now are pieguy and Backfire I think, due to general lack of or low quality posts. Thoughts, guys?
Best lynches right now are pieguy and Backfire I think, due to general lack of or low quality posts. Thoughts, guys?
Yes, I think we should lynch Backfire.
That guy sucks.
srsly plz dont lynch me :c
That guy sucks.
srsly plz dont lynch me :c
I agree. Can't do much at this point, but as Chris stated, it'd be better if 3/4ths of the people actually posted, y'know.Mashley wrote:
Okay NoHItter's gambit was terrible but obv we can't lych him.
Best lynches right now are pieguy and Backfire I think, due to general lack of or low quality posts. Thoughts, guys?
God damn it.
Topic Starter
I don't know about you guys but that's a wrap for me.
Votals coming soon, some stuff pending
Votals coming soon, some stuff pending
Topic Starter
Votals N Stuff
Sync - 3 - pieguy1372, Chris, NoHItter
NoHItter - 2 - dkun, Sync
dkun - 2 - Backfire
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
Backfire - 1 - Two
But I just wanna play it right
We are gonna get there tonight
Nobody agrees on a target. In a way, nobody expected to either. These songs have only started, cacophony galore. Who expects children to share, or animals to hate?
Nobody dies.
The Maestro sighs.
STARTING FROM NOW IT IS NIGHT. POSTING IN THIS THREAD IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
Night will end Wednesday Morning, 3 AM, or when I have all the actions in.
Topic Starter
So let's skip the news boy (I'll go and make some tea)
Blood on the rooftops (too much for me)
When old Mother Goose stops - they're out for 23
The songs reared up again after an ugly night: many of them had had little sleep, wary of the malign forces in play, some of them had had none, concocting plans in the dead of night.
The dead of tonight was Lilac, a song of...
A song that sounded like...
Nobody remembered. Lilac wasn't just stopped, or murdered, his very essence was ripped apart at the seams, nothing but empty notes plinking on a cold floor like ice, shreds of sheet music gone and devoured.
Trace amounts of blood and a little less noise were the only things beratting his death.
Kchhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Lilac was a song, but no other information is obtainable from his lack of corpse. He is however dead and out of the game.
It is now Day Two, you may all again speak and cast your votes for the lynch that will occur Saturday Night Fever, 8 PM GMT.
What the hell, no one died yesterday? I guess we actually need a majority to lynch instead of the person with the most votes being lynched by default.
With 12 people, I'd only assume 3 mafia. I don't really know what to think, but I'm kind of suspicious of Mashley for conveniently leaving out foulcoon in his list, who only posted once right at the start. Backfire IIRC posted quite a bit as well. I'm also kind of suspicious of foulcoon for being inactive, but then again I've been inactive also o.o (I was kind of busy and the day ended before I got back)
With 12 people, I'd only assume 3 mafia. I don't really know what to think, but I'm kind of suspicious of Mashley for conveniently leaving out foulcoon in his list, who only posted once right at the start. Backfire IIRC posted quite a bit as well. I'm also kind of suspicious of foulcoon for being inactive, but then again I've been inactive also o.o (I was kind of busy and the day ended before I got back)
vote: Two
unvote
unvote
Oh now you talk.
vote: pieguy
you can tell he is mafia because he didn't say anything about gut feelings or flip flop with his accusations like he does when he's town
lynch him
you can tell he is mafia because he didn't say anything about gut feelings or flip flop with his accusations like he does when he's town
lynch him
Lilac died? 
No, I'm still alive...
Seriously... GL town. You didn't need me anyway.
Seriously... GL town. You didn't need me anyway.
Sorry for being inactive pieguy, geez. hypocrite
anyways i'm most suspicious of nohitter and mashley at this point.
nohitter for being scummy and for there already being a tracker, and mashley partially for the original reason, and also for claiming he picked something most would perceive as town (70s pop or w/e).
anyways i'm most suspicious of nohitter and mashley at this point.
nohitter for being scummy and for there already being a tracker, and mashley partially for the original reason, and also for claiming he picked something most would perceive as town (70s pop or w/e).
So we have a Janitor mafia and Sync is some sort of unlynchable?
no, there definitely is a cop and a trackerfoulcoon wrote:
nohitter for being scummy and for there already being a tracker, and mashley partially for the original reason, and also for claiming he picked something most would perceive as town (70s pop or w/e).
how do you know so much two
lol it's day two, which is two's day
tuesday~
I'm so clever
lol it's day two, which is two's day
tuesday~
I'm so clever
I got an innoc3ent on someone.
Also let's clarify the lynch first.
Mod: Do we need to have a majority vote to lynch someone? Or is plurality enough at the deadline?
Also let's clarify the lynch first.
Mod: Do we need to have a majority vote to lynch someone? Or is plurality enough at the deadline?
It needs a majority.
Reading by the way
Reading by the way
I'm going to believe in NoHItter and dkun for their claims. NoHItter's rebalance and the edit on dkun's role PM seems like a convincing alibi. Normally, there wouldn't be much of a reason for the mod to edit their role PMs.
I'm actually buying Chris's accusation for pieguy. He has done it even though multiple people have claimed to be a bad reasoning and I can't really see pieguy just forfeiting his voting style out of sudden.
Kind of surprised how people did not accused my lack of activity yesterday, while accusing Backfire and pieguy for their lack of activity. I'm getting an idea that they are making a foundation for an easy lynch. I may be over reading it, but I just don't understand why I was not the part of the list
I'm actually buying Chris's accusation for pieguy. He has done it even though multiple people have claimed to be a bad reasoning and I can't really see pieguy just forfeiting his voting style out of sudden.
Kind of surprised how people did not accused my lack of activity yesterday, while accusing Backfire and pieguy for their lack of activity. I'm getting an idea that they are making a foundation for an easy lynch. I may be over reading it, but I just don't understand why I was not the part of the list
well, we'll find out about both of them as soon as wojjan gets onbmin11 wrote:
I'm going to believe in NoHItter and dkun for their claims. NoHItter's rebalance and the edit on dkun's role PM seems like a convincing alibi. Normally, there wouldn't be much of a reason for the mod to edit their role PMs.
I haven't elaborated on anything because I'm waiting for both the dkun kill to process + wojjan to reply to my pm to make sure I won't get modkilled for sharing
you weren't kidding with killing off dkun?
I mean, didn't know you were doing a day vig shot o_o
it's twoicide
Sync. You need to die.