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Then Salvage, what OTHER way do you suggest starting the game?
Assuming that RVS didn't start and I didn't start RQS, you should then offer a way to get the game started.
Assuming that RVS didn't start and I didn't start RQS, you should then offer a way to get the game started.
1) first game of mafia so no clue ^_^ would need to experience both sides firstNoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
2) I'm not even sure all the possible roles so =\
3) if the lurking was very suspicious yes
4) if someone can tell me what this is
5) at least once every 24-48 hours
oh the game is starting by its own like it allways does
also what i forgot to say about RV is that almost allways makes bad players look really scummy and make some safe lynchs for mafia, they will eventually do it anyways but better give them a chance right?
also what i forgot to say about RV is that almost allways makes bad players look really scummy and make some safe lynchs for mafia, they will eventually do it anyways but better give them a chance right?
RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
1. Anything except independent. Town is nice because I don't have to lie and force something I know isn't true, while Mafia is nice as I have people to work with. Independent has neither of these.
2. Information roles.
3. Last resort, etc.
4. I would, but I'm not good at it, so eh.
5. Once every 24 hours
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
1. Anything except independent. Town is nice because I don't have to lie and force something I know isn't true, while Mafia is nice as I have people to work with. Independent has neither of these.
2. Information roles.
3. Last resort, etc.
4. I would, but I'm not good at it, so eh.
5. Once every 24 hours
Also, Salvage really now. Give people a chance to speak before going all over on them.NoHItter wrote:
Quite a few new players, so...
RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment? Town or Jester (duh)
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Jester
3) Would you lynch lurkers? Always
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? When needed I use it
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") Once a day
1) no clueNoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
2) no clue. Maybe 1-shot Vigilante, though.
3) Well, I'd vote them to get them to say something, at least.
4) no clue. Maybe.
5) a couple of times a day
before i go to sleep let's get things started
Roleclaim : 1-Shot Night Vigilante
and i also have 1 shot bulletproof
back in a few hours
Roleclaim : 1-Shot Night Vigilante
and i also have 1 shot bulletproof
back in a few hours
Salvage is mafia, already.
For some strange out of the blue reason I believe Salvage for once isn't mafia.
This leads me to the usual suspects as mafia or TBTE, cause well I'm pretty damn sure he is mafia.
This leads me to the usual suspects as mafia or TBTE, cause well I'm pretty damn sure he is mafia.
Salvage is always mafia, even when he isn't
Conveniently a bulletproof. Though it makes sense, except I would correlate that type of role to a serial killer and not a vigilante.
Also if you use that to coerce people into a mass claim I am going to vote you without question.
Also if you use that to coerce people into a mass claim I am going to vote you without question.
I want to claim so fucking bad but ugh, salvage would like that ;-;
You do know that if you were really a 1-Shot BP, the best option is to not claim it?Salvage wrote:
Roleclaim : 1-Shot Night Vigilante
and i also have 1 shot bulletproof
By claiming BP, you essentially say, "If you kill me, your kill will be wasted." but as town, you want kills to be wasted.
By claiming vig, you set yourself up as a NK target, but by claiming BP, you ruin the chances of a NK being wasted.
FoS: Salvage
Care to elaborate on that? How are you sure that TBTE is mafia?DeathxShinigami wrote:
This leads me to the usual suspects as mafia or TBTE, cause well I'm pretty damn sure he is mafia.
DxS's logic will probably be "he's new"
Although Salvage's claim is looking really odd to me. Giving out more info than he should like NH pointed out. I almost feel as if he's SK or something.
Although Salvage's claim is looking really odd to me. Giving out more info than he should like NH pointed out. I almost feel as if he's SK or something.
guys can we get out of the way that RVS is a way to start a mafia game but is a VERY VERY VERY BAD WAY of starting a mafia game compared to RQS or role speculation.
Or maybe you should look farther than the wiki page on bulletproofs and realise that salvage could be faking BP to stay alive to use his vigshot when he has more info.NoHItter wrote:
You do know that if you were really a 1-Shot BP, the best option is to not claim it?Salvage wrote:
Roleclaim : 1-Shot Night Vigilante
and i also have 1 shot bulletproof
By claiming BP, you essentially say, "If you kill me, your kill will be wasted." but as town, you want kills to be wasted.
By claiming vig, you set yourself up as a NK target, but by claiming BP, you ruin the chances of a NK being wasted.
FoS: Salvage
Or he could be claiming to make it look as if he's faking, so the mafia would call his bluff and waste their kill anyway, and then town will have even more reason to believe that the bp claim is legit.
Vote Hitter because you are making EVEN LESS sense than usual.
I disagree.
When I was Lyncher for PyP VG, I instantly knew the moment LS claimed bulletproof was the person I was looking for. Sure, it might have made me paranoid to believe that all bulletproof players are Serial Killers but I have a right to be. Not going for my gut instinct when I even had a role to instant kill him, that would haunt anyone.
When I was Lyncher for PyP VG, I instantly knew the moment LS claimed bulletproof was the person I was looking for. Sure, it might have made me paranoid to believe that all bulletproof players are Serial Killers but I have a right to be. Not going for my gut instinct when I even had a role to instant kill him, that would haunt anyone.
1) What is your preferred alignment? Town.
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Vanilla, it's the least stressful thing to be.
3) Would you lynch lurkers? If it comes down to it.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? I use meta from games I've played with other people.
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") When I have so-- *shot*
I think at least once a day for me, depending on discussion levels.
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Vanilla, it's the least stressful thing to be.
3) Would you lynch lurkers? If it comes down to it.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? I use meta from games I've played with other people.
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") When I have so-- *shot*
I think at least once a day for me, depending on discussion levels.
Then why did he claim vig this early? If he hadn't claimed to be vig then he need not "fake BP to stay alive". The only way he would die was if Mafia targeted him, which is only a 1/11 to 1/12 chance depending on possible mafia numbers. (I think 3 - 4 mafia seems most probable)Wojjan wrote:
Or maybe you should look farther than the wiki page on bulletproofs and realise that salvage could be faking BP to stay alive to use his vigshot when he has more info.
But claiming vig by itself makes one a prime killing target. If he were really BP then claiming it would be a waste of an opportunity to get a no kill. What his claim just did was make mafia possibly think twice of targeting him.Wojjan wrote:
Or he could be claiming to make it look as if he's faking, so the mafia would call his bluff and waste their kill anyway, and then town will have even more reason to believe that the bp claim is legit.
Basically claiming vig alone was a good tactic, but claiming vig and BP is a questionable tactic.
palion wrote:
vote: tbte
O watdafuk. I thought you loved me, where is the love?palion wrote:
i want to hear tbte's reaction
Also Answers to these questions
RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
1) Town ofc
2) A Basic Townie
3) Hm, that means i would have to lynch myself on most of the games i play so i guess not, unless it was a live or die situation
4) Um. Depends on the situation, i don't really know what this means.
5) Once every day.
Unvote: TBTE
Don't want to actually have you be lynched lol
Don't want to actually have you be lynched lol
NoHItter wrote:
Then why did he claim vig this early? If he hadn't claimed to be vig then he need not "fake BP to stay alive". The only way he would die was if Mafia targeted him, which is only a 1/11 to 1/12 chance depending on possible mafia numbers. (I think 3 - 4 mafia seems most probable)Wojjan wrote:
Or maybe you should look farther than the wiki page on bulletproofs and realise that salvage could be faking BP to stay alive to use his vigshot when he has more info.But claiming vig by itself makes one a prime killing target. If he were really BP then claiming it would be a waste of an opportunity to get a no kill. What his claim just did was make mafia possibly think twice of targeting him.Wojjan wrote:
Or he could be claiming to make it look as if he's faking, so the mafia would call his bluff and waste their kill anyway, and then town will have even more reason to believe that the bp claim is legit.
Basically claiming vig alone was a good tactic, but claiming vig and BP is a questionable tactic.
thank u wojjan for making my life easier.
also no, it isn't a questionable tactic, cause now you and your mafia partners will not waste a kill on me and i'll leave past d2.
is that clear enough NoHitter or do you have a strongman in there
1) What is your preferred alignment? Town. You don't have to think so much imo.
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Something useful like a doctor.
3) Would you lynch lurkers? Yes, but not on the first day or the second.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? Haven't played enough games for scumhunting (Not quite sure how it's done)
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") I'll try and post 2 or more posts in a day.
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Something useful like a doctor.
3) Would you lynch lurkers? Yes, but not on the first day or the second.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? Haven't played enough games for scumhunting (Not quite sure how it's done)
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") I'll try and post 2 or more posts in a day.
Salvage may be telling you the truth >to an extent< but im pretty sure he's bullshitting about BP.
Pretty sure.
Pretty sure.
or i just want you to think that to waste a kill (see how it works this way too NoHitter?) 
.
.Salvage, best mafia player of all time.
thanks
oh and i failed at english on the other post i meant "live past d2" before some douche like DxS points it out
oh and i failed at english on the other post i meant "live past d2" before some douche like DxS points it out
Random thoughts:
- I have a gut feeling that Backfire might be mafia.
- Don't know what to think about Salvage. Seems legit.
- I have a gut feeling that Backfire might be mafia.
- Don't know what to think about Salvage. Seems legit.
I'm going to FoS: Salvage
Because of what was said, that is confusing that you have a chance to make someone waste a kill when you are a vig makes not one bit of since.
But If we lynch you and you are telling the truth, it's redundant.
mindfk.
Because of what was said, that is confusing that you have a chance to make someone waste a kill when you are a vig makes not one bit of since.
But If we lynch you and you are telling the truth, it's redundant.
mindfk.
Actually, I don't blame you for thinking im mafia.
I'm claiming salvage is mafia with no discernable reason, but my reasoning, if I so disproved him, would also give me a slight disadvantage in the long run.
I don't want to waste a role claim on him, essentially.
Why?
Because mass role claims suck ass and you're just giving shit to the mafia.
I'm claiming salvage is mafia with no discernable reason, but my reasoning, if I so disproved him, would also give me a slight disadvantage in the long run.
I don't want to waste a role claim on him, essentially.
Why?
Because mass role claims suck ass and you're just giving shit to the mafia.
lolSalvage wrote:
oh and i failed at english on the other post i meant "live past d2" before some douche like DxS points it out
TBTE i really suggest you to read the thread more before posting, thank you.
Wow no wonder why I fucking hate playing with you Salvage.
Okay so about TBTE let's just say I saw him say something about his role elsewhere besides this thread which leads me to believe that he's mafia for that reason alone.
Okay so about TBTE let's just say I saw him say something about his role elsewhere besides this thread which leads me to believe that he's mafia for that reason alone.
also idk what you mean on why do you hate playin with me but i said that cause you corrected me twice about my fail english so yeah.
so because he says something to like that you automatically vote for me?Salvage wrote:
okay
unvote, vote TBTE
also notice that he hasn't voted for me either Salvage so what is the point of doing that.
vote Salvage
ow why you leave now ..
anyways let's vote TBTE guys, unless someone wants to add something to go on?
anyways let's vote TBTE guys, unless someone wants to add something to go on?
I didn't leave and i was trying to make the point that you shouldn't just vote someone just to vote for someone.Salvage wrote:
ow why you leave now ..
anyways let's vote TBTE guys, unless someone wants to add something to go on?
unvote
Salvage is like, let's not do RVS.
Does it anyway. What the hell, man?
Does it anyway. What the hell, man?
i'm not random voting lilac.
and i sure know what i want, lynch you and your partners that is.
and i sure know what i want, lynch you and your partners that is.
Salvage wrote:
as allways, can we just skip the RVS stage please
or do you all want to confuse town with an useless stage
Come say that to my face again, I dare ya, Salvage.Salvage, three posts later. wrote:
oh okay
vote: palion
i don't know what are you trying to say but that vote wasn't random either
Go justify it when all he said was... "I want to hear the reaction of TBTE." and "I want the title updated."
Misleading town? Fluff posts? Ahahaha, you need to do MUCH BETTER than that considering you're acting all dumb about it as well.
Misleading town? Fluff posts? Ahahaha, you need to do MUCH BETTER than that considering you're acting all dumb about it as well.
mm, didn't realize I was in this game.
Sorry, but I would like to ask for a replacement.
Sorry, but I would like to ask for a replacement.
wow lilac don't try to play smart with me
the only thing that you should know is that the vote ur quoting it's not a random vote, other than that i don't really care how you see my playstyle.
the only thing that you should know is that the vote ur quoting it's not a random vote, other than that i don't really care how you see my playstyle.
If it's not a random vote, justify it for the third time. I'm not playing smart with you, you're playing dumb with me. I also don't care how I see your playstyle, I expect you to damn well justify your vote if you say it's not random.Salvage wrote:
wow lilac don't try to play smart with me
the only thing that you should know is that the vote ur quoting it's not a random vote, other than that i don't really care how you see my playstyle.
I will vote for you if you don't do this in your next post.
i did it to see his reaction at it the same way he wanted to see the reaction on TBTE, i can't believe it's so hard for you to get that vote omg
Lilac's bossy. He wants what he wants and he usually ends up getting it due to his whiny meta.
Also don't play that "omg guys, why you so mean to me" tactic Lilac. I'm onto you.
Also don't play that "omg guys, why you so mean to me" tactic Lilac. I'm onto you.
omg guys, why you so mean to me. T_T
Yeah, I'll probably expect it. I-I'm only trying to help. >w<
Yeah, I'll probably expect it. I-I'm only trying to help. >w<
Lilac you will never be Two Chris or Salvage I suggest you stop trying before you make a fool of yourself.Lilac wrote:
Go justify it when all he said was... "I want to hear the reaction of TBTE." and "I want the title updated."
Misleading town? Fluff posts? Ahahaha, you need to do MUCH BETTER than that considering you're acting all dumb about it as well.
TBTE wrote:
also notice that he hasn't voted for me either Salvage so what is the point of doing that.
Uh huh.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Vote: TBTE
Vote: TBTE because of DxS's magical outside information
You knoe what, oh well.
Vote TBTE
Vote TBTE
Isn't that the definition of RVS (to see the reaction of another player to a vote)? Otherwise I don't see any other reason for that stage.Salvage wrote:
i did it to see his reaction at it the same way he wanted to see the reaction on TBTE, i can't believe it's so hard for you to get that vote omg
Whatever. Are you able to elaborate a little more on what happened DxS?
no it's not, rvs is RANDOM and i stated thousands of times that my vote was not random
While yours wasn't 'random' it achieved almost the same result as far as I could tell. Again my perceived definition of rvs is a random vote (the minor part) to elicit a reaction from the votee (the major part, the functional part).
Going by that, yeah it was basically the same thing in my eyes.
Ie a vote (not random in this case) to elicit a reaction from the votee.
Going by that, yeah it was basically the same thing in my eyes.
Ie a vote (not random in this case) to elicit a reaction from the votee.
if you judge the votes that way then scumhunting uses "random voting" all the time (being clearly a good move), while rvs it's not a good move at all, it doesn't matter if its the same thing in your eyes or not cause it ends giving more information while rvs not only gives nothing, it also missleads town.
refer to my list of cons on RVS for more info.
refer to my list of cons on RVS for more info.
What I can say is that TBTE announced to the public at some point in time about his mafia role which I believe is Mafia Leader?
Obviously you should know I'm unable to post any sort of outside proof so you should take my word. If he comes up as town though I'll take all blame for it.
Obviously you should know I'm unable to post any sort of outside proof so you should take my word. If he comes up as town though I'll take all blame for it.
1. full of wifomBut if both use the same basis and vote mechanism (ie random voting) what is their difference?
2. totally missleading on good players
3. almost allways makes bad players look really scummy and make some safe lynchs for mafia, they will eventually do it anyways but better give them a chance right?
The only difference you pointed out is the follow up which is something separate, which admittedly most random votes blow off with a "oh it was random, leave me alone"
Right? Also;
1. Your roleclaim is full of wifom too. By that end it's the same con.
2. Miss-leading as in people might be tempted to wagon on a 'good' player? (oh so subjective)
3. Which is what your version of 'scumhunting' does. Vote on them, then sees reaction, if they are 'bad' then they'll react poorly and cave to pressure.
Hypocrisy (right word?) gets on my nerves.
I guess it would be grounds for a modkill, though if you didn't say anything significant back you probably could if you wanted.DeathxShinigami wrote:
What I can say is that TBTE announced to the public at some point in time about his mafia role which I believe is Mafia Leader?
Obviously you should know I'm unable to post any sort of outside proof so you should take my word. If he comes up as town though I'll take all blame for it.
But alright good enough for me right now. Vote: TBTE
i give up on you rantai.
too lazy to do a votecount right now, anyone?
too lazy to do a votecount right now, anyone?
Votecount
TBTE - Over 9000
Someone else - 1
TBTE - Over 9000
Someone else - 1
I think only 5 for TBTE. Unless I'm wrong.
Okay, if TBTE flips Mafia, he should be banned from this subforum for apparently being unable to not talk about the game outside
If TBTE flips down, lynch DxS tomorrow
Vote: TBTE (L-1)
If TBTE flips down, lynch DxS tomorrow
Vote: TBTE (L-1)
votecount
TBTE - 6 (DxS, palion, Salvage, Dusty, Backfire, JInxyjem)
Salvage - 2 (dkun, TBTE)
NH - 1 (Wojjan)
Oh wait L-2
TBTE - 6 (DxS, palion, Salvage, Dusty, Backfire, JInxyjem)
Salvage - 2 (dkun, TBTE)
NH - 1 (Wojjan)
Oh wait L-2
You missed mine.
Topic Starter
Votecount:
TBTE (7) - DxS, palion, Salvage, Dusty, Backfire, Rantai, JInxyjem
NoHItter (1) - Wojjan
With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch. The deadline is in 90 hours
TBTE (7) - DxS, palion, Salvage, Dusty, Backfire, Rantai, JInxyjem
NoHItter (1) - Wojjan
With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch. The deadline is in 90 hours
So we're basically lynching someone based on outside info?
Well, considering we have a lead to follow tomorrow, re:DxS then I guess it's fine to hammer now (even though deadline is 80+ hours away).
I'll vote for TBTE unless someone has anything else to say.
Well, considering we have a lead to follow tomorrow, re:DxS then I guess it's fine to hammer now (even though deadline is 80+ hours away).
I'll vote for TBTE unless someone has anything else to say.
Nothing comes to mind. I'll go with this plan tool.
too*
You can't edit your posts right?
You can't edit your posts right?
Vote: TBTE
Looks like no one has anything else to say.
Looks like no one has anything else to say.
zzz I really need to refresh the page after leaving it open for a while.
Wojjan hammered TBTE.
Wojjan hammered TBTE.
I think this is stupid, but Vote: TBTE
Moral of the story?
Don't fucking post until you really have too.
Don't fucking post until you really have too.
If you think that, we'll just lynch you as a lurker
If you are Mafia, moral is don't talk about the game outside
If you are Town, then there's no real moral other than you are the kind of guy that i think would talk about the game outside, so fix that
If you are Mafia, moral is don't talk about the game outside
If you are Town, then there's no real moral other than you are the kind of guy that i think would talk about the game outside, so fix that
btw now that the day is over and pieguy is not posting
i just watched dexter season finale, mindfuck .. did anyone see it? oh my god best season finale ever
i just watched dexter season finale, mindfuck .. did anyone see it? oh my god best season finale ever
I just watched 7 seasons of House to catch up.
So much House.
So much House.
I didn't even know TBTE talked about mafia outside of this thing and RV'ed him.
I must be psychic.
I must be psychic.
ssssscummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmSalvage wrote:
btw now that the day is over and pieguy is not posting
i just watched dexter season finale, mindfuck .. did anyone see it? oh my god best season finale ever
Topic Starter
--Town Square--
Rather quickly, everyone decided that TBTE was evil. Many of them had apparently seen him before, and one person noted that they had seen information about him elsewhere. They quickly tied him up and crushed him with a tree.
It seems that TBTE really was evil. How odd that he turned up here.
TBTE - Mafia Leader - Lynched D1
It is now Night 1. The deadline is in 48 hours.
(And I still can't effing edit my posts
If anyone can edit the first post, could you please change the title?)
Rather quickly, everyone decided that TBTE was evil. Many of them had apparently seen him before, and one person noted that they had seen information about him elsewhere. They quickly tied him up and crushed him with a tree.
It seems that TBTE really was evil. How odd that he turned up here.
TBTE - Mafia Leader - Lynched D1
It is now Night 1. The deadline is in 48 hours.
(And I still can't effing edit my posts
If anyone can edit the first post, could you please change the title?)Booyah!
OMFG, it was so greatSalvage wrote:
btw now that the day is over and pieguy is not posting
i just watched dexter season finale, mindfuck .. did anyone see it? oh my god best season finale ever
I wonder how it's going to start off
Perhaps they will fuck in front of the dead body?
omg, sorry for posting
awrite let's roleclaim since that is the general course of action
Topic Starter
Sorry everyone, I found myself without a computer the past few days
Anyway, everyone woke up to find another person missing. They eventually realized that it was the person who said the previous day what his role was, and that even though he was halfway lying, he halfway told the truth.
Salvage - 1-shot Vigilante - Nightkilled N1
It is now Day 2. With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch. The deadline is in 96 hours.
Also, I'm waiting on a confirmation from animask
Anyway, everyone woke up to find another person missing. They eventually realized that it was the person who said the previous day what his role was, and that even though he was halfway lying, he halfway told the truth.
Salvage - 1-shot Vigilante - Nightkilled N1
It is now Day 2. With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch. The deadline is in 96 hours.
Also, I'm waiting on a confirmation from animask
*facepalm*
Once I get my role PM or whatever I'm supposed to get, I'm going to sleep