This thread is getting too serious.....
forum
Appealing body figures, preferences and opinions.
posted
Total Posts
281
I think it was supposed to be this serious?Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Topic Starter
At the very least people for a matter of change "discuss", rather then spouting memes, irrelevant sexual innuendos and reaction images all over. I for once enjoyed reading what the people here have to say.Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Point of the thread is that a relationship is at stake, and i appreciate it a lot that you all have given thought into what you've said.
failboat wrote:
At the very least people for a matter of change "discuss", rather then spouting memes, irrelevant sexual innuendos and reaction images all over. I for once enjoyed reading what the people here have to say.Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Point of the thread is that a relationship is at stake, and i appreciate it a lot that you all have given thought into what you've said.
Awww shucks, you're making me blush.
Topic Starter
aww piss off you estrogen filled abomination of a cotton pickerNeverDie wrote:
Awww shucks, you're making me blush.
I expected you to not post at all, but yet you wholeheartedly put your valuable time and effort into stating your arrogant opinion of how you solely wish to score, and copy-pasting quotes that are irrelevant to the subject in an attempt to make you look less off a moronic dickhead.
This isn't a question of "do you like or do you not like obese woman", and an anorexic twig can be just as unappealing in ones eyes.
And not to mention how i was hoping for you to be more then a by a society's standards a stereotypical teenage male with an itching boner.
I am well aware of that you will reply with another one of your overused meme reaction images saying something along the lines of "U MAD" and whatnot, so no need to even bother, dear.
I'm sorry, NeverDie, but I'm a fat admirer. I'm not into men so I can't vouch for that, but I usually find overweight women much more attractive than "normal" or "skinny" women.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
And this is about 1/8th every man. Too lazy to find the source, but I read that somewhere.
EDIT: Didn't realize there were so many more pages.
ITT: NeverDie feeling insecure.
I don't know what an attractive man looks like, but try this. I get bonus points since they're not black:
Rofl those women are putrid and disgusting. That further proves my point, birds of a feather, flock together. They'll never get a hot guy with them, plain and simple. All those couples you posted at like 2/10 or 3/10 at best on the looks scale. And in the rare cases that it does happen, where a model goes out with someone hideous, there's money involved. Those pictures only prove that evolution is at work, their genetics will get weeded out eventually. I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.
I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.Oh please, with almost 7 billion people on this planet might as well stop reproducing lol.
That is quite a wrong theory, our stereotypical beauty is mostly an afront to nature, such as anorexia. Survivability actually leans toward overweight as acquiring food in the winter is more difficult and the fat protects against the cold. Genetically we will either continue evolving to weaker and weaker, frail, intelligent people (debunking your muscular, tan, guido, idiot theory) or bigger, stronger, healthier people (debunking your thin theory).NeverDie wrote:
Those pictures only prove that evolution is at work, their genetics will get weeded out eventually.
Failboat is my hero now.
you couldn't get a big girl like that pregnant anyways because, once again, you have a small dick.NeverDie wrote:
I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.
also that 2nd picture both the guy and girl are the fugliest things i've ever seen holy shit thats horrifying
Minus the bleached hair, I don't think they look so bad!foulcoon wrote:
also that 2nd picture both the guy and girl are the fugliest things i've ever seen holy shit thats horrifying
There's an awfully large amount of text to go through in this thread just to end up not giving a shit about each other's opinions anyway.
that second picture made me cringe for several different reasons, one of the most prominent being that guy's hair
it's a weaponCuddlebun wrote:
that guy's hair
about as attractive as neverdie's tits. some women would kill for those things.
Don't some popular band members look like that or some shit?
Also, why is NeverDie going into internet tough guy mode? Ya'll are starting to act a bit silly, I think the thread has served it's purpose.
On our left we see an insecure man. On our right we see a happy man.
If the guy is unconfident about his figure let him explore his social boundaries or let him body build or something. Whatever makes him happy. Just remind him that in the end all that matters is how he feels about himself because he ultimately can't know how others feel about him. If he pretends hard enough that people like him then they probably do.
Also, why is NeverDie going into internet tough guy mode? Ya'll are starting to act a bit silly, I think the thread has served it's purpose.
If the guy is unconfident about his figure let him explore his social boundaries or let him body build or something. Whatever makes him happy. Just remind him that in the end all that matters is how he feels about himself because he ultimately can't know how others feel about him. If he pretends hard enough that people like him then they probably do.
AHHHHH, I almost peed!Shiirn wrote:
about as attractive as neverdie's tits.Cuddlebun wrote:
that guy's hair
Anyone younger* then 13 years old and not male.
kawaii ^____^;;;~~~Sander-Don wrote:
Anyone younger* then 13 years old and not male.
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.failboat wrote:
Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
D33d, are you able to read english? the entire point of the matter is that his self-denial is causing the lack of self-image, not any lack of support or treatment around him.
That is entirely what I'm saying. Perhaps I didn't express myself very coherently, but I know all too well what it's like to feel bad about one's appearance. My point is that, because his girlfriend doesn't dislike his figure, he should either stop complaining about his figure or improve it via exercise.Shiirn wrote:
D33d, are you able to read english? the entire point of the matter is that his self-denial is causing the lack of self-image, not any lack of support or treatment around him.
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"D33d wrote:
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.failboat wrote:
Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
Topic Starter
Everyone? That is bullshit.
No need to be gross just because your partner likes your appearance.
Everyone aren't fucking stupid.
No need to be gross just because your partner likes your appearance.
Everyone aren't fucking stupid.
I'm pretty sure most people would bring it up at least. If you take that comment that way you clearly lack common sense and deserve to be dumped anyways.NeverDie wrote:
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
I think what's missing is that people don't just live to please their partner. The above listed musings would require the consensus both of the individual's partner and the individual themselves. Most people wouldn't just opt to put on a hundred pounds for the hell of it, because of the implications to their own health. It's uncomfortable and dangerous, and for the people who do think like that: let them. They'll die faster.Pokebis wrote:
If you take that comment that way you clearly lack common sense and deserve to be dumped anyways.
Only an idiot would behave like that. Such idiots exist, but that is not the point of what I'm saying. There is a chasm of difference between "Oh, s/he won't mind if I put on a few hundred kilos" and "We're happy together. I don't need to stress about my figure, because it's fine as it is."NeverDie wrote:
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"D33d wrote:
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
If anything, I'd be a bit concerned if my other half was to completely let themselves go, solely because they're "comfortable."
Someone who is confident in themselves I find attractive. It's almost as if they exude an aura. People obsessed over their looks have fear based thinking and are often negative, cynical people to boot.
This is where everyone should have realized you have no idea what you are talking about and have a false perception about relationships. I feel sorry for you for feeling like everyone should be in tip top condition no matter what, but some people who you consider "Not caring for their health" can't help it. Have you ever heard of actually illnesses that can cause considerable weight gain?NeverDie wrote:
Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
Before you go off and start acting like a total ass which you usually do off the bat anyways maybe you should think if your overly egotistic mind can do such a thing.
Moving on:
Really though if someone is truly attracted to you it shouldn't be because of your body it should be because of your personality, how you act, etc etc. As long as you are happy with how you are you shouldn't really worry because there is always someone out there for everyone. Also, I agree with Soly. People who are overly obsessed about their looks really turn me off. I would rather have someone who is happy with how they are.
I kind of back up my opinion with myself. I am thin for my height, but I have never been unhealthy and I am happy with how I look. I may not be the perfect body weight and be all perfectly toned and muscular and such, but in the end I would rather just be myself than try and be what I'm not.
Not my fault you have low standards, and if you actually did some research instead of talking out your ass you'd realize that there is no disease that causes people to be fat regardless of what they do. So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses. You sound like someone that's been beat down by life and has admitted defeat. That's not very healthy. It's pathetic trying to accept the way you are when there's so many things you can improve. You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.JAKACHAN wrote:
This is where everyone should have realized you have no idea what you are talking about and have a false perception about relationships. I feel sorry for you for feeling like everyone should be in tip top condition no matter what, but some people who you consider "Not caring for their health" can't help it. Have you ever heard of actually illnesses that can cause considerable weight gain?NeverDie wrote:
Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
Before you go off and start acting like a total ass which you usually do off the bat anyways maybe you should think if your overly egotistic mind can do such a thing.
Moving on:
Really though if someone is truly attracted to you it shouldn't be because of your body it should be because of your personality, how you act, etc etc. As long as you are happy with how you are you shouldn't really worry because there is always someone out there for everyone. Also, I agree with Soly. People who are overly obsessed about their looks really turn me off. I would rather have someone who is happy with how they are.
I kind of back up my opinion with myself. I am thin for my height, but I have never been unhealthy and I am happy with how I look. I may not be the perfect body weight and be all perfectly toned and muscular and such, but in the end I would rather just be myself than try and be what I'm not.
I wonder if you hold paraplegics and hypothyroidism sufferers to name a few under the same standards.NeverDie wrote:
So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses.
And that's just implying that overweight people are inherently unlikeable and deserve ostracization. Please don't tell me you hold this belief as well.NeverDie wrote:
You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.
Other common causes of hypothyroidism include:Jarby wrote:
I wonder if you hold paraplegics and hypothyroidism sufferers to name a few under the same standards.NeverDie wrote:
So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses.And that's just implying that overweight people are inherently unlikeable and deserve ostracization. Please don't tell me you hold this belief as well.NeverDie wrote:
You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.
Congenital (birth) defects
Radiation treatments to the neck to treat different cancers, which may also damage the thyroid gland
Radioactive iodine used to treat an overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism)
Surgical removal of part or all of the thyroid gland, done to treat other thyroid problems
Viral thyroiditis, which may cause hyperthyroidism and is often followed by temporary or permanent hypothyroidism
Certain drugs can cause hypothyroidism, including:
Amiodarone
Drugs used for hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid), such as propylthiouracil (PTU) and methimazole
Lithium
Radiation to the brain
Sheehan syndrome, a condition that may occur in a woman who bleeds severely during pregnancy or childbirth and causes destruction of the pituitary gland
Risk factors include:
Age over 50 years
Being female
So let's look at this here. How many fat people walking around us actually have this? Maybe no more than 5-15 per thousand fatties. Yes, very sad that they have it and can't help it. But now for the rest of the 99.85% of the fat people, they can do something about it. My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat. A few months with proper diet and exercise fixes this, but yet they choose not. Is it logical to think it's a good choice on their part, other than they're doing it out of pure laziness? It isn't. So stop with the excuses. Stop trying to make it out like you're the victim when you aren't. And of course there's girls out there that will go for some overweight guys, but let's be honest here. you think a girl that's hot and has a bunch of guys hitting on her everyday will settle for a fat guy? Nope. When you have a selection of people you can have sex with that look a lot better, you won't pick the worst out of the pile. So much denial ITT.
Whoa, slow down there, partner; I wasn't claiming that these conditions accounted for the majority of overweight people. However, you specified that all overweight people have no excuses. Just clearing up your generalization, mister. Anyway, I think this should all be an individual's business and not something you should have any concern about.
I want to show up at NeverDie's door, strip naked, and dance around.
At any rate, it doesn't even have to be a disorder or disease that causes someone to have poor weight. Some body types are just naturally a bit heftier and the person could be at their healthiest point and not fall under your extremely narrow-minded standards. I'm a somewhat hefty dude but I have absolutely no health problems as a result of my weight. Blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol is low, things are fine. According to you though I'm still just a fatty.
Good thing I know where my health stands and don't give two shits about pleasing people like you.
At any rate, it doesn't even have to be a disorder or disease that causes someone to have poor weight. Some body types are just naturally a bit heftier and the person could be at their healthiest point and not fall under your extremely narrow-minded standards. I'm a somewhat hefty dude but I have absolutely no health problems as a result of my weight. Blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol is low, things are fine. According to you though I'm still just a fatty.
Good thing I know where my health stands and don't give two shits about pleasing people like you.
Settle down, Jarling...Jarby wrote:
Whoa, slow down there, partner; I wasn't claiming that these conditions accounted for the majority of overweight people. However, you specified that all overweight people have no excuses. Just clearing up your generalization, mister
(1000-15) / 1000 = 0.985 = 98.5%NeverDie wrote:
Maybe no more than 5-15 per thousand fatties. Yes, very sad that they have it and can't help it. But now for the rest of the 99.85% of the fat people
he's not good with math
(Also, I apologize for posting this for strictly inflammatory purposes and not contributing to the thread, but this here Internet's a vicious place, and if you have a lousy attitude, people will pick on you)
I want to help out NeverDie since he's the minority here, but I like (female) fatties. And he has his points in the wrong places.
He should be pointing out that obese people who don't take care of themselves rely on health care that healthy people may have to pay.
Except this was never the point of the thread.
He should be pointing out that obese people who don't take care of themselves rely on health care that healthy people may have to pay.
Except this was never the point of the thread.
No idea what to say here srsly.
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
Topic Starter
quality posting you omnislutLizzehb wrote:
No idea what to say here srsly.
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
this isn't off topic dear
You should rather have called neverdie a butthurt moron. That would at least be on topic.
Only thing I've agreed with him on so far is the indirect statement of that people who don't take care of themselves are naturally unappealing, other then that its all arrogance.
Average is beautiful. Personally though, I am a leg man.
Thus overweight, underweight, overly-muscled, puny, and any other forms of extremes are all forms of the same ugly. There exist some outliers, as can be seen by those who enjoy fat women (breasts and butts are all fat), those who do not care at all about looks, those who think muscles are hot, and douchebags.
There are many people who simply do not care about their health and take it for granted because that's human nature. Most of us have other shit to worry about. There are many people as well who do not have bad habits which lead to poor health, or who actually enjoy exercise, or simply have the willpower to do force themselves to do something they do not enjoy doing. As a species, advances in technology have allowed people who do not have these traits to survive comparably well, if not better than those without.
The same can be said about people with unhealthy ideals in societies. In more authoritarian societies people with contrary or disagreeable ideals like neverdie usually end up dead. However we have moved from dictatorships to republics/oligarchies where a select few govern, and are much more liberal towards acceptance. Neverdie is a product of that evolution of free society, and only survives here because of it.
There's not much you can do to help your friend other than be supportive of him. I would make fun of him for feeling bad about himself, but I don't give a shit about what other people think and way too much of a thinking introvert, so I'm a bad example.
Thus overweight, underweight, overly-muscled, puny, and any other forms of extremes are all forms of the same ugly. There exist some outliers, as can be seen by those who enjoy fat women (breasts and butts are all fat), those who do not care at all about looks, those who think muscles are hot, and douchebags.
There are many people who simply do not care about their health and take it for granted because that's human nature. Most of us have other shit to worry about. There are many people as well who do not have bad habits which lead to poor health, or who actually enjoy exercise, or simply have the willpower to do force themselves to do something they do not enjoy doing. As a species, advances in technology have allowed people who do not have these traits to survive comparably well, if not better than those without.
The same can be said about people with unhealthy ideals in societies. In more authoritarian societies people with contrary or disagreeable ideals like neverdie usually end up dead. However we have moved from dictatorships to republics/oligarchies where a select few govern, and are much more liberal towards acceptance. Neverdie is a product of that evolution of free society, and only survives here because of it.
There's not much you can do to help your friend other than be supportive of him. I would make fun of him for feeling bad about himself, but I don't give a shit about what other people think and way too much of a thinking introvert, so I'm a bad example.