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Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size)

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Hikato
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 18 July 2009 at 17:49:47

Artist: Yuna Ito
Title: Trust You (TV Size)
BPM: 89
Filesize: 3246kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. DaruStyle (4.3 stars, 197 notes)
  2. Doomsday's Easy (2.52 stars, 83 notes)
  3. Hard (4.39 stars, 173 notes)
  4. Nexy's Insane (4.56 stars, 167 notes)
  5. Normal (3.9 stars, 153 notes)
  6. WyndII's Difficulty (4.56 stars, 217 notes)
Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size)
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Didn't see this mapped so here it is, though I'm not a good mapper. :P (and too lazy to do the full version ^o^)

*Nexy's Insane added.
*Daru's Insane added.
*Normal added.
*WyndII's difficulty added.
*Dooms' easy added.

Moved to pending.
Doomsday
ok, a bit late, but nevertheless:

00:17:405 (5, 6) - i'd move these back onto the blue ticks. they sound late where they are now
00:19:933 (6) - this sounds late too, move this onto the blue tick
00:23:472 (1) - this would sound better if it ended on the white tick (forward)
00:27:012 (11) - i'd move this closer to (10) instead of stacking it on the center. or you could move it on the timeline onto the white tick. your choice.
00:45:888 (6) - move this closer to (7). or you can stack it on the end of the slider, but personally i think it would work better by moving it closer to (7).
00:57:517 (2) - just a little design touch. you could move this so its symmetrical to (1).
01:16:394 (1) - this would sound better if you stretched this onto the red tick
01:20:102 (6) - move this closer to (5)
01:25:158 (2) - this sudden mini jump seems a bit odd, considering how close the slider afterwards is.

once, you've fixed these, call me back and ill take another look
Topic Starter
Hikato

Doomsday93 wrote:

ok, a bit late, but nevertheless:

00:17:405 (5, 6) - i'd move these back onto the blue ticks. they sound late where they are now Done.
00:19:933 (6) - this sounds late too, move this onto the blue tick Done.
00:23:472 (1) - this would sound better if it ended on the white tick (forward) Done.
00:27:012 (11) - i'd move this closer to (10) instead of stacking it on the center. or you could move it on the timeline onto the white tick. your choice. Moved to white tick. I like it on the center. ^_^
00:45:888 (6) - move this closer to (7). or you can stack it on the end of the slider, but personally i think it would work better by moving it closer to (7). This was a mistake. I changed it earlier and forgot to move it back to it's position.
00:57:517 (2) - just a little design touch. you could move this so its symmetrical to (1). Done.
01:16:394 (1) - this would sound better if you stretched this onto the red tick Done.
01:20:102 (6) - move this closer to (5) Done.
01:25:158 (2) - this sudden mini jump seems a bit odd, considering how close the slider afterwards is. Distance snap made me do it! D:

once, you've fixed these, call me back and ill take another look
Thanks for modding. :D
Topic Starter
Hikato
If anyone wants to make a difficulty for me please do. :D If not I'll do one when I get some free time. D:
Daru
Shinxyn
I heard you haven't made an easier diff, yet, so just looking over whats here.

Hard-

00:25:66 (7) - move 1/4 forward?
00:27:01 (11) - 1/4 shorter?
00:31:05 (4) - random sped up, mean...
00:52:79 (8) - doubt you can get away with hiding this
01:23:68 (1) - start on 01:23:47, end anytime before next note...
Double check spacing, and make more new combos please

Nexy's-

00:37:80 (10) - move 1/4 forward (and relength)
00:49:60 (5) - 1/4 shorter?
00:50:95 (5) - ^ (or I suggest turn 4 to repeating short slider?)
01:04:26 (11) - sound weird and off... maybe.. 1/2 longer? or 1/2 shorter... I cant decide
Please make it look nicer by not using grid snap on the streams~

Daru's-
The hit audio not set to anything, not as soft or normal, it makes a weird sound for sliders like this.
00:06:26 (3,4,5) - straighten 3 and 4, and don't finish spam this
00:43:84 (12) - place this somewhere else, dont have notes overlap in ugly way D:
00:50:25 (1) - hidden and ugly formation..
00:54:80 (4) - new combo!
Your style has lots of hidden stuff~, and kinda messy right now.. that just my opinion though

Hmmmm.... nah, sorry, no star for this yet
-kinda wants to join the colab, not an easier diff-

No room left for my diff, oh well, anyways, looking good~ here's the star
Lumiere
nice map .. i test Nexy-difficulty ^^ too ..

star! :)
mosluv

Shinxyn wrote:

Nexy's-
01:04:26 (11) - sound weird and off... maybe.. 1/2 longer? or 1/2 shorter... I cant decide
Please make it look nicer by not using grid snap on the streams~
Don't see how it sounds off. It ends exactly when she stops singing before the chorus starts again. I went back and repositioned the streams, but it was only some notes. Not sure where exactly it looks bad.

BTW, Thank You Lumiere! ^o^ :)

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [Nexy's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Hikato

Shinxyn wrote:


Hard-

00:25:66 (7) - move 1/4 forward? Done
00:27:01 (11) - 1/4 shorter? Done
00:31:05 (4) - random sped up, mean... It's not hard since you can pretty much stay in one place.
00:52:79 (8) - doubt you can get away with hiding this Not sure about this yet but will probably change.
01:23:68 (1) - start on 01:23:47, end anytime before next note... Done
Double check spacing, and make more new combos please I don't see more new combos as necessary. Spacing checked, what's left is mostly intended.

Hmmmm.... nah, sorry, no star for this yet
-kinda wants to join the colab, not an easier diff- Go ahead and join in. :P
Thanks for looking.
WyndII
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Doomsday
im kinda pressed for time so for now im only gonna mod normal, as requested.
ill mod the others on sunday, since i won't be at home until then.

[NORMAL]

00:08:641 - maybe you could put a hitcircle here
00:16:394 (1, 2, 3) - imo, a 1/8 gap between sliders seems a bit small. maybe shrink the sliders down by 1/8? your choice though, because i could do them fine, but people of lower skill level might not
00:21:787 (1, 1, 1) - ^
00:49:090 (6, 1) - ^
01:05:607 (1, 2, 3) - ^
01:11:000 (1, 2, 3) - ^
in other words, nothing wrong with this diff. good job.

so ill get to modding the other 2 diffs on sunday, so sit back until then

star'd

P.S - do you mind if i make an easy for this?
Gabi
Alright ill post my oppinions on some things. most of these are suggestions so you dont have to change them if you like, or you could get a second oppinion.

[Normal]
Generally this song is quite confusing right now and can almost be counted as a hard song. the 1/8 sliders are abit over the top.

00:16:39 (1,1,1) - might be abit difficult for a normal player
00:21:78 (1,1,1,1) - this is also quite difficult imo
01:11:00 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - that is really confusing. i suggest you remap this

00:39:31 (3,4,5) - patterns like this might be abit confusing. there are some accros the map. but since i cant tell myself, imo you should try letting some low ranked played try this map out and ask them if anything was extra confusing.

other then that its great, but if possible try to get in a spinner anywhere in the song. maybe end with a spinner?

[Hard]
00:25:83 (7) - this sounded fine to me but also abit off. try moving it back 1/4 tick. it might sound abit early tho. experiment and see what feels best
00:27:01 (11) - make it 1/4 longer
01:05:60 (1,2,3,4) - 2,3,4 are to far from 1 compared to the earlier sliders you've had, so it will throw people off. you'll need to move them closer (maybe invert the slider and make a small stream out of the notes)
01:08:30 (1,2,3) - same as above ^ (with the 2 atleast)
01:23:47 (1) - try shortening it by 1/4 and see how it sounds. can be overlooked tho

[Daru Style]
All the time stamps in the beginning are the same bpm, so inherit all of them, and use 0.5x, 1x and 2x instead.
the time stamps in the end are wierd. at each start and end of the slider theres a timestamp. i dont think you need the time stamps at the end of the sliders.

i might have missunderstood what you've done there tho, so if ive told you something wrong dont change.

there were some distans snaps, but seeing as this is insane they can be overlooked.

i had a feeling that some of the notes were off, but ill let someone else take a look at that

good job

[Nexy's Insane]
its a nice map and all, but to me some notes are to much, and some notes are missing imo. so what i will do is tell you some suggestions. dont change if you're not sure or if you think im wrong.

00:52:80 (1) - shorten 1/4

ok here are my suggestions

00:10:33 (10,11) - remove 10 and move 11 back 1/4 on the timeline
00:13:03 (10,11) - same as above ^
00:37:47 (9) - move 1/4 to the right on the timeline
00:37:97 (10,11,12) - move 11 and 12 1/4 back on the timeline (however you can try different things aswell)

also alot of your time stamps are not inherited, i tried looking and i couldnt see any changes if you dont have them inherited.

maps great ;)

starz*
WyndII
here ya go. :D I can't think of good name for the diff so i just put WyndII's Diff :o

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [WyndII's Difficulty].osu
Topic Starter
Hikato

Doomsday93 wrote:

[NORMAL]

00:08:641 - maybe you could put a hitcircle here Doesn't fit with what I'm following for the normal.
00:16:394 (1, 2, 3) - imo, a 1/8 gap between sliders seems a bit small. maybe shrink the sliders down by 1/8? your choice though, because i could do them fine, but people of lower skill level might not Done. Not much difference so I don't mind changing.*
00:21:787 (1, 1, 1) - ^ Left as it is.**
00:49:090 (6, 1) - ^ ^*
01:05:607 (1, 2, 3) - ^ ^*
01:11:000 (1, 2, 3) - ^ ^*
in other words, nothing wrong with this diff. good job. Thanks :)

so ill get to modding the other 2 diffs on sunday, so sit back until then

star'd

P.S - do you mind if i make an easy for this? Go ahead. :)

Gabi wrote:

[Normal]
Generally this song is quite confusing right now and can almost be counted as a hard song. the 1/8 sliders are abit over the top.

00:16:39 (1,1,1) - might be abit difficult for a normal player ^*
00:21:78 (1,1,1,1) - this is also quite difficult imo ^**
01:11:00 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - that is really confusing. i suggest you remap this I changed this slightly. As I told you on osu it was distance snap that did this.

00:39:31 (3,4,5) - patterns like this might be abit confusing. there are some accros the map. but since i cant tell myself, imo you should try letting some low ranked played try this map out and ask them if anything was extra confusing. This is easy enough for a normal.

other then that its great, but if possible try to get in a spinner anywhere in the song. maybe end with a spinner? Is a spinner necessary?

[Hard]
00:25:83 (7) - this sounded fine to me but also abit off. try moving it back 1/4 tick. it might sound abit early tho. experiment and see what feels best Sounded better as it was.
00:27:01 (11) - make it 1/4 longer Changed slightly. Let me know if it's better or worse.
01:05:60 (1,2,3,4) - 2,3,4 are to far from 1 compared to the earlier sliders you've had, so it will throw people off. you'll need to move them closer (maybe invert the slider and make a small stream out of the notes) Not sure how to change this. When I change it I don't like it but when I leave it as it is I get complaints. :\
01:08:30 (1,2,3) - same as above ^ (with the 2 atleast) Not changing this. It's as intended and fits well imo.
01:23:47 (1) - try shortening it by 1/4 and see how it sounds. can be overlooked tho Doesn't really matter either way but changed.
Thanks to both of you. :)
HarryOrunitia
Normal:
00:21:78 (1,1,1,1) - Woah! Confusing! Plus, if you keep the 1/4 snap divisor, it looks unsnapped.
01:24:82 (1) - I think I'd make it 1/4 longer

Hard:
00:17:32 (5,6) - Resnap these
00:27:06 (11) - Resnap this
01:05:60 (1) - I'd make this one 1/4 shorter D:
01:20:77 (10) - This is going to be confusing on the first playthrough, cause the head hids the end. It's impossible to know which way the slider goes. And the end isn't snapped.

Daru Style:
00:24:97 (5) - Move this 1 square down with grid 3

WyndII's Difficulty:
I love this difficulty! Btw:
01:03:58 (1) - Align this with the other two beats in the group
01:05:60 (1) - ^ (There are more triplets with the same problem, fix them if you can)

Nexy's Insane:
I couldn't find anything wrong.

Anyway, all the timelines seem a bit weird in this map, full of timing sections and appearently unsnapped notes. I don't know how much it will affect rankability though, since everything sounds nicely timed.
Starred.
mosluv

Gabi wrote:

[Nexy's Insane]
its a nice map and all, but to me some notes are to much, and some notes are missing imo. so what i will do is tell you some suggestions. dont change if you're not sure or if you think im wrong.

00:52:80 (1) - shorten 1/4

ok here are my suggestions

00:10:33 (10,11) - remove 10 and move 11 back 1/4 on the timeline
00:13:03 (10,11) - same as above ^
00:37:47 (9) - move 1/4 to the right on the timeline
00:37:97 (10,11,12) - move 11 and 12 1/4 back on the timeline (however you can try different things aswell)

also alot of your time stamps are not inherited, i tried looking and i couldnt see any changes if you dont have them inherited.
Thank You, loved all your suggestions. Not sure about too many notes or missing in some places, as I have no idea what I should remove or add in places.

The time stamps not being inherited is just silly habit of mine of not starting new combos on blue ticks. I like to see them on white or red ticks. Hope that isn't a problem. :?

Thanks Again! :)

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [Nexy's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Hikato

HarryOrunitia wrote:

Normal:
00:21:78 (1,1,1,1) - Woah! Confusing! Plus, if you keep the 1/4 snap divisor, it looks unsnapped. Changed slightly
01:24:82 (1) - I think I'd make it 1/4 longer Changed slightly.

Hard:
00:17:32 (5,6) - Resnap these Done?
00:27:06 (11) - Resnap this Done?
01:05:60 (1) - I'd make this one 1/4 shorter D: Disagree but changed slightly.
01:20:77 (10) - This is going to be confusing on the first playthrough, cause the head hids the end. It's impossible to know which way the slider goes. And the end isn't snapped. Ended slightly earlier for the people who can't tell. Really now how hard is it to tell which was it's going to go if you think about it? ¬_¬
Thanks for modding. :)
Larto
Nexy's Insane:
01:24:93 (1) - Unrankable. Start and beginning of this slider must be seperated so it's possible to see where the slider goes.

Wynd:
Awwright.

Hard:
01:08:30 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing is inconsistent?
01:20:77 (10) - Seperate start and ending moar.
01:25:49 (3) - 1/8 shorter :p

Normal:
Fine

Toasting in an epic bread.
Starring a cool map.
mosluv
Corrections/Suggestions

Hard:
00:11:16-00:13:02 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Better pattern here? I think it looks bad.
00:14:37 (4) - Doesn't need to be slowed down. After removing the the 0.5 time stamp and the 1x after it; shorten by 1/4 and make into a repeating slider up to the red tick before the 5.
00:17:23 (5) - Move left to blue tick and directly under 3.
00:17:57 (6) - ^ under 2.
00:20:77 (7) - Intentional jump? If not, too far from 6 and 8.
00:27:18 (11) - Move right to the white tick. You can use 0.5 time stamp here. If you do, make the slider end at 00:29:203.
00:35:94 (4) - Get rid of the 0.5 time stamp and the 1x after it. Shorten by 1/4 and make into a repeating slider till the blue tick before the 5.
00:40:32 (2) - Too close to 1. Intentional?
00:40:66 (3) - Too close to 2. Intentional?
00:42:68 (4) - Nudge up.
00:43:36 (5) - Flip vertically. Click for picture.
00:45:88 (6) - If you did the above step; nudge right. New combo as well.
00:51:61 (1) - Make this directly across from 6?
00:56:84 (2) - New combo.
00:57:51 (5) - ^
00:59:37 (6) - ^
01:07:63 (2) - ^
01:10:32 (2) - ^
01:15:71 (8) - New combo. Move this to the top of the map in the middle as well as 9 and 10.

Since I don't know how to explain the next part. Look at the picture for the hitnotes after 8,9,10. Click me 4 lovin'!

01:19:42 (4) - New combo. Also I don't think making 4,5,6,7,8,9 all jumpy like that is a good idea. You're using the same distance snap with them while they are not the same distance from each other on the time line.
01:20:77 (10) - New combo.
01:25:49 (3) - Make this longer?

:D
mosluv
My slider should be rank-able now. :D

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [Nexy's Insane].osu
Starrodkirby86
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Topic Starter
Hikato

Nexy wrote:

Corrections/Suggestions
Firstly, damn you. :<
Hard:
00:11:16-00:13:02 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Better pattern here? I think it looks bad. Changed slightly
00:14:37 (4) - Doesn't need to be slowed down. After removing the the 0.5 time stamp and the 1x after it; shorten by 1/4 and make into a repeating slider up to the red tick before the 5. Prefer it slowed down.
00:17:23 (5) - Move left to blue tick and directly under 3. Done
00:17:57 (6) - ^ under 2. ^
00:20:77 (7) - Intentional jump? If not, too far from 6 and 8. Intentional~
00:27:18 (11) - Move right to the white tick. You can use 0.5 time stamp here. If you do, make the slider end at 00:29:203. Took a while ot get it to where it is and to me it sounds better as it is.
00:35:94 (4) - Get rid of the 0.5 time stamp and the 1x after it. Shorten by 1/4 and make into a repeating slider till the blue tick before the 5. Sounds strange, left as it was (Mostly).
00:40:32 (2) - Too close to 1. Intentional? Yup
00:40:66 (3) - Too close to 2. Intentional? Yup
00:42:68 (4) - Nudge up. Rawr, done.
00:43:36 (5) - Flip vertically. Click for picture. Rawr, done.
00:45:88 (6) - If you did the above step; nudge right. New combo as well. Rawr, done.
00:51:61 (1) - Make this directly across from 6? Across from 2. :3
00:56:84 (2) - New combo. Done.
00:57:51 (5) - ^ Ya ya.
00:59:37 (6) - ^ Ya ya.
01:07:63 (2) - ^ Ya ya.
01:10:32 (2) - ^ Ya ya.
01:15:71 (8) - New combo. Move this to the top of the map in the middle as well as 9 and 10. Done~ Pic helped. :D

Since I don't know how to explain the next part. Look at the picture for the hitnotes after 8,9,10. Click me 4 lovin'! Okay. o-o' Done.

01:19:42 (4) - New combo. Also I don't think making 4,5,6,7,8,9 all jumpy like that is a good idea. You're using the same distance snap with them while they are not the same distance from each other on the time line. Changed slightly.
01:20:77 (10) - New combo. Left as it was for the red. :<
01:25:49 (3) - Make this longer? No reason to. Seems fine as it is.

:D
Topic Starter
Hikato

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Wow, there's like a billion "Hard" difficulties for this, haha. Really leaves out the newbies here.

[Normal]:
00:08:64 (x) - Totally optional, but I feel there should be a beat here. Start isn't following vocals so it doesn't fit.
00:21:78 (1,1,1,1,1) - This might be confusing, especially for newbies who are playing the easiest difficulty. It is a [normal] map. I think they should be fine.
00:32:23 (8) - Move 1 up on Grid Level 3. Done.
00:39:65 (4) - End of this slider should get a clap, methinks. :o missed that one.
00:50:10 (2) - Clap? There's a clap in the song which is why I left this one out. It makes it sound weird. :\
00:54:82 (1) - This area maybe should get Kiai? Or is it unneeded? (Applies to all difficulties) Mhm~
01:20:77 (4) - It's a bad slider because it would be different if edited so slightly. Make it a nice slider. :3 Hmm. Slightly you say.. *changes the whole thing* Done~

[Hard]:
00:14:37 (4) - IT'S A TRAP, haha. I wont change this. I think it sounds fine as it is now and changing it makes it weird.

00:37:63 (10) - New combo? Done.
00:45:88 (6) - New combo? Done.
00:57:51 (5) - New combo. Done.

The overlaps in [Normal] may confuse a beginner. Take note of that. I'm aware but they aren't exactly 'hard' and it's not [easy] so~

Star for a lovely map. :)
Daru
Fixed
Undoable/fixed after other changes
My thoughts


Daru's-
The hit audio not set to anything, not as soft or normal, it makes a weird sound for sliders like this.
00:06:26 (3,4,5) - straighten 3 and 4, and don't finish spam this
00:43:84 (12) - place this somewhere else, dont have notes overlap in ugly way D:
00:50:25 (1) - hidden and ugly formation..
00:54:80 (4) - new combo!

Your style has lots of hidden stuff~, and kinda messy right now.. that just my opinion though

Messiness toned down a bit with more flowing and less hidden notes, as well as a faster fade in time.

[Daru Style]
All the time stamps in the beginning are the same bpm, so inherit all of them, and use 0.5x, 1x and 2x instead.
the time stamps in the end are wierd. at each start and end of the slider theres a timestamp. i dont think you need the time stamps at the end of the sliders.
i might have missunderstood what you've done there tho, so if ive told you something wrong dont change.
there were some distans snaps, but seeing as this is insane they can be overlooked.
i had a feeling that some of the notes were off, but ill let someone else take a look at that


Timing issues fixed, and ending timings cleaned up to better show what I was trying to do.

Daru Style:
00:24:97 (5) - Move this 1 square down with grid 3

[DaruStyle]:
00:13:00 (8) - Slider overlap might make this the most confusing crap ever. XD But I might be wrong.
00:43:84 (12) - The fading (10) makes this look like a mess.
00:47:21 (1) - Maybe this should be on the same horizontal level with (4) so it looks prettier instead of desolately being up there...
00:54:80 (4) - New combo.
01:16:37 (1) - Wow...nice shape...A little confusing where it might begin though, but nice shape.
Why didn't I get a mod from Larto? D:
Anyway, thanks to Shinxyn, Gabi, HarryOrunitia, and Starrodkirby86 for the mods.

Other changes:
Circle size and drain rate made harder.
Various non-mod changes and spacing issues.



Updated .osu:

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [DaruStyle].osu
WyndII
antony11
WyndII diff

00:27:18 (9,1) - too close
00:53:80 (3,1) - too far

Adrui Style
00:05:92 (2,3,4,5) - too close? distance change in same combo@@
00:16:92 (3) - move near 2
00:27:83 (1) - closer to 11 is better
00:32:55 (1) - too close to 13
00:47:72 (2) - too close to 1
00:54:80 (4) - new combo
00:57:49 (7) - new combo
01:05:58 (9) - move closer to 8
01:15:02 (5) - move closer to 4
blissfulyoshi
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Topic Starter
Hikato
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Doomsday
damn. a shitload happened in the last few days. now i got 3 diffs to mod (not atm though, sorry guys ;_;)

anyways, heres my diff. there shouldn't be anything wrong with it

Download: Yuna Ito - Trust You (TV Size) (Hikato) [Doomsday's Easy].osu
blissfulyoshi
Since easy has been just introduced

Easy:
00:19:09 (3) - put directly in between 1 and 2
00:21:78 (1) - end 3/2 notes earlier
00:27:18 (1) - end a whole note earlier
00:48:75 (1) - start a quarter note later to go with lyrics?
00:50:10 (1) - " " + might want to align horizontally with 2
00:50:10 (1) - jump a little hard for easy?
01:02:23 (1) - remove new combo
01:02:23 (1,2) - I think it would be better to put these notes with the lyrics
01:10:32 (2) - put on top of the blue 2, you might want to consider putting both of them in the exact center
01:11:00 (1) - try to have the end of this be under the red 2
01:25:15 (2) - extend to the end of the vocals, also it looks weird that this is the only slider that ends on a quarter note
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