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That is all I can offer, my role PM does not have a win condition if I read it correctly.
By that I mean it doesn't have a "you win when you XXX." It just says that I am town-sided.
my PM didn't have a win condition but it didn't say I was sided with town outright either
I can't really quote the PM, but I see it in there. You guys should try reading the entire PM.
Can we get mod confirmation on this?
Can we get mod confirmation on this?
Yeah, I can't find it... thought it would be somewhere by the "sided with town" part of the PM
mine doesn't say that I win with town, nor does it use the terms "town-sided" or "sided with town". It does, however, say "Town" directly before the role name so...
ex: You are a town "blank blank". etc...
ex: You are a town "blank blank". etc...
My PM actually states that my alignment is with town (not in those exact words) so I don't know if there's a pattern. I'm not sure where we're trying to go with this, given that we know for a fact the mafia have fakeclaims anyways.
hi guys i'm back
mine seems to be similar to foulcoon one.
also about two's claim i don't think he's unlynchable at all, and i doubt he'll help town staying alive since the chnaces of him hitting town are really high (as seen in the previous death, even tho i don't regret it).
if you think of the Serial Killer as a role it could be that he has it since it's really really hard to win as SK, so that unsure thing is that keeping me out from lynching him, since specially d1 .. no lynching is like the worst choice ever, better not taking the risk.
anyways i'm not sure about a lynch target right now, i don't like Mashley and Luna but they both claimed a game (enter in the Two's list) .. so an akro lynch seems like the best choice right now, there are a lot of other possible lynchs tho since everyone is lurking a lot.
mine seems to be similar to foulcoon one.
also about two's claim i don't think he's unlynchable at all, and i doubt he'll help town staying alive since the chnaces of him hitting town are really high (as seen in the previous death, even tho i don't regret it).
if you think of the Serial Killer as a role it could be that he has it since it's really really hard to win as SK, so that unsure thing is that keeping me out from lynching him, since specially d1 .. no lynching is like the worst choice ever, better not taking the risk.
anyways i'm not sure about a lynch target right now, i don't like Mashley and Luna but they both claimed a game (enter in the Two's list) .. so an akro lynch seems like the best choice right now, there are a lot of other possible lynchs tho since everyone is lurking a lot.
Again: scarcely a day has elapsed since the game started. Calling anyone out as inactive would be pretty premature. Why are you so eager to get someone lynched?
I have a problem with literally 50% of your posts being about how you shouldn't have to contribute anything
what do you propose on talking akro, i'd like to hear your ideas since you're saying nothing in like the entire game.
What, exactly, has there been to talk about besides you? You said earlier that I was missing something, care to point it out so I can address it?Two wrote:
I have a problem with literally 50% of your posts being about how you shouldn't have to contribute anything
inb4 your usual petulant "No."
If I had free reign I'd propose examining someone who's trying to bandwagon along- like animask. But it'd probably be construed as a OMGUS so I'm going to say... LS looked much more active than usual early on, in my experience he's usually more quiet at the start of the game. Chris and Two are acting about normally aggressive. Something about Luna seemed off to me- it might have been the way he's talking. Last game his posts were a lot longer and detailed, while now they're more clipped and trivial (and lacking end punctuation)- see this versus this.Salvage wrote:
what do you propose on talking akro, i'd like to hear your ideas since you're saying nothing in like the entire game.
Lots of meta and nothing concrete, I realize, but those are my current thoughts.
why are you proposing an analysis of animask instead of doing it
or is that your placeholder post
or is that your placeholder post
@MOD
Vote count please
and can you add players/deaths to the main posts plzzzzzzzz
Vote count please
and can you add players/deaths to the main posts plzzzzzzzz
Thank you for keeping me on the list, Chris 
Anyway, as long as Two works with the town side, we would be having two lynches a day, which is really helpful for town side. It would depends on situation, but keeping Two for now is a better choice.
Lynching lurkers are okay, but I still want LS for the lynch. I think I have explained enough for my reasoning.
Anyway, as long as Two works with the town side, we would be having two lynches a day, which is really helpful for town side. It would depends on situation, but keeping Two for now is a better choice.
Lynching lurkers are okay, but I still want LS for the lynch. I think I have explained enough for my reasoning.
Well alright, I'll say my piece.
I think akrolsmir is the most likely to be mafia, from what I gather.
He's getting very offended from you all calling out people from being inactive, as if to try to cover up for planning and not contributing.
But I dunno ;w;
I think akrolsmir is the most likely to be mafia, from what I gather.
He's getting very offended from you all calling out people from being inactive, as if to try to cover up for planning and not contributing.
But I dunno ;w;
Did you just literally see the words "animask" and "propose", skip the rest of the sentence (not to mention the paragraph) and fire off a response?Two wrote:
why are you proposing an analysis of animask instead of doing it
or is that your placeholder post
Again, the fact that animask is voting for me could have cast doubts on my motivations for accusing him. I'll post my thoughts, if you insist.
In his only post of content, he just echoed the sentiments of everyone else, which seemed to me like he was trying to agree with everyone without coming up with new ideas. Then he votes for me, and disclaims it by saying that it's a bandwagon and that he's just agreeing with more people- there's deniability after I flip town while still pushing for my lynch. And then he ends it with another disclaimer that he's "unsure" of who to actually suspect.
@Chris- Lybydose has 0 posts, which you guys seemed to miss when rounding up the inactives. Other than that nobody really stands out in that list. Oh, this from Backfire amused me:
Not quite sure how to interpret it though.Backfire wrote:
Im at least trying to keep up, salvage. Im not trying to be suspicious, I just dont want to be falsely accused of being mafia.
Everyone not on that list claimed their game name which means Two is gonna kill them one by one~ besides mebmin11 wrote:
Thank you for keeping me on the list, Chris
Anyway, as long as Two works with the town side, we would be having two lynches a day, which is really helpful for town side. It would depends on situation, but keeping Two for now is a better choice.
Lynching lurkers are okay, but I still want LS for the lynch. I think I have explained enough for my reasoning.
you're on the list cause you didn't
LS isn't cause Two is going to kill them
Akro - Salvage was all like Rawr grrr
So I posted.
;~;
So I posted.
;~;
Wait, so the new plan is "kill everyone"? rofl
There has to be a better way to find the mafia besides killing everyone who claimed trying to find fakeclaims. Actually, IMO the people who haven't claimed are a lot more likely to be mafia. Keep in mind that this plan would kill anyone who Two found to be innocent >.<//
If we can't think of anything better, I agree with that plan because it'll hopefully at least find one or two mafia
also, I think it's akrolsmir
There has to be a better way to find the mafia besides killing everyone who claimed trying to find fakeclaims. Actually, IMO the people who haven't claimed are a lot more likely to be mafia. Keep in mind that this plan would kill anyone who Two found to be innocent >.<//
If we can't think of anything better, I agree with that plan because it'll hopefully at least find one or two mafia
Right I see. I thought it was a list of lurkers. I've never thought of Two killing LS too. Good point.Chris wrote:
Everyone not on that list claimed their game name which means Two is gonna kill them one by one~ besides me
you're on the list cause you didn't
LS isn't cause Two is going to kill them
Unvote
Obviously we are not going to just go and kill people off and so does the target not going to die without a word.pieguy1372 wrote:
Wait, so the new plan is "kill everyone"? rofl
There has to be a better way to find the mafia besides killing everyone who claimed trying to find fakeclaims. Actually, IMO the people who haven't claimed are a lot more likely to be mafia. Keep in mind that this plan would kill anyone who Two found to be innocent >.<//
If we can't think of anything better, I agree with that plan because it'll hopefully at least find one or two mafiaalso, I think it's akrolsmir
Backfire wrote:
Akro - Salvage was all like Rawr grrr
So I posted.
;~;
do you think it is wrong for me to do that?
There's no way Two is an SK. Either that, or there's some part of the role he hasn't revealed.
Two claims to be an SK that kills during the day if he correctly guesses a person's game, but revealed as an SK if he guesses wrong. This role is completely stupid, because it is only effective if people mass-claim. If no one claims early, which Wojjan would have anticipated since he implied mass claiming would be bad, he is forced to guess (and probably get it wrong), and then immediately lynched.
This role is also completely ineffective against mass claiming. Most of the games with mass claims had them happen on Day 2. This role would do nothing to stop it because it would already be lynched and dead on Day 1 after a wrong guess.
Basically, it comes down to a bastard role that says "If people mass claim, you win. Otherwise, you lose Day 1". I highly doubt such a role exists.
Part of the role exists though. He claims to have killed Swiftwolf and no one countered the claim, so it was definitely made by him.
In other news, Backfire is playing the "appear to be active with fluff posts" game and akrolsmir is quick to divert attention by saying "yeah well, there are other people more inactive than me".
Two claims to be an SK that kills during the day if he correctly guesses a person's game, but revealed as an SK if he guesses wrong. This role is completely stupid, because it is only effective if people mass-claim. If no one claims early, which Wojjan would have anticipated since he implied mass claiming would be bad, he is forced to guess (and probably get it wrong), and then immediately lynched.
This role is also completely ineffective against mass claiming. Most of the games with mass claims had them happen on Day 2. This role would do nothing to stop it because it would already be lynched and dead on Day 1 after a wrong guess.
Basically, it comes down to a bastard role that says "If people mass claim, you win. Otherwise, you lose Day 1". I highly doubt such a role exists.
Part of the role exists though. He claims to have killed Swiftwolf and no one countered the claim, so it was definitely made by him.
In other news, Backfire is playing the "appear to be active with fluff posts" game and akrolsmir is quick to divert attention by saying "yeah well, there are other people more inactive than me".
lybydose, would you like to put your money where your mouth is?
I'd love to know your game name
I'd love to know your game name
I'm not denying that you have the ability to kill people every day if you know what game they are from. I'm saying that one of the following is not true:
- You become lynchproof
- You're an SK that wins alone
- You are required to attempt a kill each day
- All of these?
didn't you argue against the possibility of having to kill every day by saying something like no one would claim until day 2?
are you saying I'm a serial killer that wins with town?
or what
are you saying I'm a serial killer that wins with town?
or what
having just reread everything I realized that you were saying I didn't really have to kill every day
and I don't, and never said I did
I said I have to kill every day if I want to keep my lynchproof
the idea is that I'm going to kill every day regardless, so town may as well scratch my back and I'll scratch theirs (i.e. not lynching me should I fail(that's pretty much a guilty result anyway))
and I don't, and never said I did
I said I have to kill every day if I want to keep my lynchproof
the idea is that I'm going to kill every day regardless, so town may as well scratch my back and I'll scratch theirs (i.e. not lynching me should I fail(that's pretty much a guilty result anyway))
Having to kill every day =/= Ability to kill every dayTwo wrote:
didn't you argue against the possibility of having to kill every day by saying something like no one would claim until day 2?
Ok, so let me see if i get two's claim right.
He is a bulletproof survivor SK, and will be lynchproof if he kills a person correctly. If he doesn't, he is revealed to be a SK.
I seriously don't buy this. This is a ridiculous role, and the fact that TWO is claiming it makes it more BS.
He is a bulletproof survivor SK, and will be lynchproof if he kills a person correctly. If he doesn't, he is revealed to be a SK.
I seriously don't buy this. This is a ridiculous role, and the fact that TWO is claiming it makes it more BS.
and I'm not buying that you don't buy it
seems more likely that you're mafia still clinging on to the hope of a no lynch through me
cause surely you realize that as soon as I try to kill someone with the wrong game it will become apparent that I wasn't lying
seems more likely that you're mafia still clinging on to the hope of a no lynch through me
cause surely you realize that as soon as I try to kill someone with the wrong game it will become apparent that I wasn't lying
yes that makes me a lynchproof bulletproof serial killer survivor innocent child
I never said I'm going to lynch you, I just said your role is full of shit. Indeed you can prove what happens with a fakeclaim, but there's no way to prove that you're a survivor SK. By the time you need to prove it and it turns out you lied and are independent, we would have already lost.
??? what are you talking about
I already said I am independent
I already said I am independent
Independent as in you win alone, not as a survivor
Fine, instead if being a survivor, you win when you are the last one standing.
My point is that our apparent plan right now is to kill two people a day, your daykill and lynching.
You could pretend to be a survivor and kill town while flushing out and lynching mafia, then when the numbers get low, kill off the rest and win solo, unless you can point out why you can't do this?
You could pretend to be a survivor and kill town while flushing out and lynching mafia, then when the numbers get low, kill off the rest and win solo, unless you can point out why you can't do this?
I'm not pretending to be a survivor
I'm just suggesting we cooperate for a decent amount of time
I'm just suggesting we cooperate for a decent amount of time
...what
So you work with us to kill mafia, then, somehow stop cooperating to attempt to win when the mafia is gone, despite we knowing what your role does...ah.
Except we don't know what your role does, because you are hiding/lying stuff.
I...see?
So you work with us to kill mafia, then, somehow stop cooperating to attempt to win when the mafia is gone, despite we knowing what your role does...ah.
Except we don't know what your role does, because you are hiding/lying stuff.
I...see?
oh lord
I suggest you re-read the last 5 pages or so slowly
I suggest you re-read the last 5 pages or so slowly
So town can win with you standing?
Missed that part. But can you win with town standing? Or are you going to pull something else or ignore winning in the first place?
Missed that part. But can you win with town standing? Or are you going to pull something else or ignore winning in the first place?
I believe Two claimed that he wins by controlling at least 50% of the votes, thus he wins by being left with one other person, or being the last man standing.
Putting a post together, 1sec
Putting a post together, 1sec
If I'm getting Two's roleclaim right, it's that he may choose to kill to get lynch immunity.
If he guesses wrongly though, he'll be revealed to be SK?
I don't think Two can win with town.
Mod: What is exactly Town's winning condition?
Is it eliminating all anti-town? My role doesn't say anything but does have "Town" in the role name.
As for the next lynch candidate, I would really prefer LadySuburu, but if Two would kill LS tomorrow then I'm fine with that.
Also can someone explain to me exactly why you guys are voting akro?
If he guesses wrongly though, he'll be revealed to be SK?
I don't think Two can win with town.
Mod: What is exactly Town's winning condition?
Is it eliminating all anti-town? My role doesn't say anything but does have "Town" in the role name.
As for the next lynch candidate, I would really prefer LadySuburu, but if Two would kill LS tomorrow then I'm fine with that.
Also can someone explain to me exactly why you guys are voting akro?
OK hold on let me get this straight, is the plan to let Two attempt to kill everyone who has claimed a game?
Sorry, I had to blast through this thread and all the Two conversation has turned into a huge confusing blur. And I'm tired.
Sorry, I had to blast through this thread and all the Two conversation has turned into a huge confusing blur. And I'm tired.
From what I gather;
We have 7 claims, he will systematically shoot them in order of most perceived scummy. If they told the truth, they're dead and he gains immunity. If they lied then it's down to wifom, did they lie about their game to stay out of heat as a town or did they lie to stay out of heat as a mafia.
In this case it is proposed that we lynch the liar. Assuming 3 deaths per day we can only do this 6 times before game over, which is my gripe here.
Did I miss anything?
We have 7 claims, he will systematically shoot them in order of most perceived scummy. If they told the truth, they're dead and he gains immunity. If they lied then it's down to wifom, did they lie about their game to stay out of heat as a town or did they lie to stay out of heat as a mafia.
In this case it is proposed that we lynch the liar. Assuming 3 deaths per day we can only do this 6 times before game over, which is my gripe here.
Did I miss anything?
i'm fine with it .. i just want to point out we'll have to rethink Two's situation in a few days cause i don't believe he can win with us
unless you give us your game two
like your real game so we can understand where the hell that role came from
unless you give us your game two
like your real game so we can understand where the hell that role came from
no thats exactly how it worksRantai wrote:
From what I gather;
We have 7 claims, he will systematically shoot them in order of most perceived scummy. If they told the truth, they're dead and he gains immunity. If they lied then it's down to wifom, did they lie about their game to stay out of heat as a town or did they lie to stay out of heat as a mafia.
In this case it is proposed that we lynch the liar. Assuming 3 deaths per day we can only do this 6 times before game over, which is my gripe here.
Did I miss anything?
mafia can't win
Mafia can potentially win if it's just Two and a mafia left. Probably unlikely but possible.
If Two can joint win with town then I don't particularly care if he is alive or not as it doesn't affect our win condition (this isn't clarified fully as far as I am concerned).
We'll be in quite a bit of trouble if every single claimer was a townie. Afterthought.
(What is it, 21 - 7 claimed. 14 unclaimed, 6 potential lynches, 6 potential night kills, 2 untouched)
If Two can joint win with town then I don't particularly care if he is alive or not as it doesn't affect our win condition (this isn't clarified fully as far as I am concerned).
We'll be in quite a bit of trouble if every single claimer was a townie. Afterthought.
(What is it, 21 - 7 claimed. 14 unclaimed, 6 potential lynches, 6 potential night kills, 2 untouched)
22 7 claimed - 1 cause swiftwolf
21* 6 claimed 14 unclaimed 2 kills per day lynch/shot + nightkill
21* 6 claimed 14 unclaimed 2 kills per day lynch/shot + nightkill
SPOILER
21 currently alive.
7 alive claims. (oh wait Two is one of them, ok 6 then)
6 lynches remaining assuming 3 deaths per day (21 --> 19 (lyn/NK) --> 16 --> 13 --> 10 --> 7 --> 4 (ly-lo))
Of those 4, 1 is Two, 1 potential mafia (2 impossible, auto mafia win) and the rest town.
7 alive claims. (oh wait Two is one of them, ok 6 then)
6 lynches remaining assuming 3 deaths per day (21 --> 19 (lyn/NK) --> 16 --> 13 --> 10 --> 7 --> 4 (ly-lo))
Of those 4, 1 is Two, 1 potential mafia (2 impossible, auto mafia win) and the rest town.
This was purely for my visual conceptualisation. Hmm.
I propose that by the time we get to the last 4 we have no claimed people alive. This'll negate the situation where Two cannot with with town (he'll need to take a lucky shot OR, if he's trustable by then we simply don't lynch him). If that works out then I have less of a problem with this.
Actually no, if there is a mafia alive, we'd have to have no claims by 7 people.
fyi either I missed it or we still don't have a votecount nor time before Night.
God Mod: Votecount + Time left?
inb4 scum has a role to mask this
inb4 scum has a role to mask this
Topic Starter
akrolsmir - 4 (Chris, Two, Salvage, animask)
Salvage - 1 (Backfire)
Chris - 1 (LadySuburu)
LadySuburu - 1 (Ivalset)
pieguy1372 - 1 (adam2046)
Salvage - 1 (Backfire)
Chris - 1 (LadySuburu)
LadySuburu - 1 (Ivalset)
pieguy1372 - 1 (adam2046)
so can the rest of the mafia vote for akrolsmir so this day can be over
I unvoted Salvage, Wojjan.
Well ok, Unvote.
Well ok, Unvote.
did everyone give up already or something
I mean I know it's impossible for mafia to win but you shouldn't quit d1
it might turn around somehow
I mean I know it's impossible for mafia to win but you shouldn't quit d1
it might turn around somehow
Two, what game are you from? None of The Werewolf Game roles fit what you're currently claiming to have.
Why are you so sensitive omg. You aren't doing much more helpful then a lurker if you keep on complaing over people reading the thread. Make you own thoughts if you think the thread isn't moving fast enough.
I'm going to read what akro has said before voting. Untill then, no votes from me.
I'm going to read what akro has said before voting. Untill then, no votes from me.
according to ladysuburu salvage and akrolsmir, mafia have an ability similar to mine
thats why I called salvage mafia
it's pretty obvious
it's pretty obvious
akrolsmir wrote:
Two, what game are you from? None of The Werewolf Game roles fit what you're currently claiming to have.
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Er, what?Two wrote:
according to ladysuburu salvage and akrolsmir, mafia have an ability similar to mine
your confusion only reinforces my suspicions
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
maybe that means they will be more organized d2 and have a story to stick withTwo wrote:
your confusion only reinforces my suspicions
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
Stop ignoring parts of posts that are inconvenient to you.
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
I thought it was obvious he meant you're mafia with the power to kill off softclaimsakrolsmir wrote:
Stop ignoring parts of posts that are inconvenient to you.
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
thats why you and salvage and ladysuburu are so for giving up game names
there was nothing unclear about what I said
all 3 of you (ladysuburu, salvage, akrolsmir) were game fishing
I can only imagine that you have a way to get around my bulletproof through knowing my game name, and want to make sure I didn't lie about it before using it (it could have a negative effect like my role)
all 3 of you (ladysuburu, salvage, akrolsmir) were game fishing
I can only imagine that you have a way to get around my bulletproof through knowing my game name, and want to make sure I didn't lie about it before using it (it could have a negative effect like my role)
Okay, thank you very much. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
lol @ you still trying to dig up games with serial killers subtlyakrolsmir wrote:
Okay, thank you very much. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
no not gonna help you sorry
Who knows. Some kind of day vig. You haven't shown us any proof of needing to know the game of a person to gain lynchproof, or anything.
@chris- The point was just to disprove Two's insane roleclaim.
@chris- The point was just to disprove Two's insane roleclaim.
considering my role I really doubt his claim is fake
i'd suggest you to read my post when i asked two about his game chris .. cause idk how you know he can win with town (no sk can win with half the votes as far as i know)
plus i hardly doubt there are much mafia members in that list .. 1 or 2 max i think, and it's more probabble that he hits town (x2 town deaths 1 day .. maybe 3 if misslynch), on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
plus i hardly doubt there are much mafia members in that list .. 1 or 2 max i think, and it's more probabble that he hits town (x2 town deaths 1 day .. maybe 3 if misslynch), on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
cause it's impossible for mafia to win using this strategySalvage wrote:
on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
duh
but you wouldn't understand how that is due to the fact mafia don't have to comprehend whats being said in the game
yeah you're not making sense at all chris .. and trying to saying that cause i don't get you're weird logic then i'm mafia .. rofl.
you said you win with half the votes, that's what i pointed out.
Two wrote:
for the last time, I don't win with town
you said you win with half the votes, that's what i pointed out.
yes, that means I have to be alive with 1 other person in order to win
Honestly what akrolsmir is saying does make sense. The first thread clearly said 'Every role in this game is going to refer to a character in a mafia game'. If you don't have a game to match your roleclaim is very hard to believe. It's entirely plausible that he's a standard SK who made the whole game names thing up to guarantee himself a win. I'm not saying we should try to lynch him now, as long as he kills who we say to kill he is worth having around and if he is telling the truth we would miss the lynch.
We have to lynch him eventually though. If he is really lynchproof, and the people who softclaimed didn't lie we are completely fucked. But since he's unwilling to back up his roleclaim, that seems unlikely.
We have to lynch him eventually though. If he is really lynchproof, and the people who softclaimed didn't lie we are completely fucked. But since he's unwilling to back up his roleclaim, that seems unlikely.
except the fact that if he can kill based off softclaims that leaves it completely open that mafia can benefit off of it as well
and no we don't have to lynch him ever
and no we don't have to lynch him ever
the way I see it isTwo wrote:
aw thx chris
1.) you help kill everybody off faster
2.) i'm invincible, you/mafia can't kill me
3.) 1:1 will be me + you assuming you really are bulletproof
town eliminates all mafia and you get 1:1
we both win
if you're a tree stump you have no vote and would lose by default
I'm notTwo wrote:
if you're a tree stump you have no vote and would lose by default
wojjan counted my vote remember
that's a really believable role then ..
well i don't really care about two as long as he helps town but eventually it'll hurt town since as i already said i actually don't think that there is more than 2 mafia in that list, maybe only 1,
it's not really nessesary that he softclaim cause it's right it can help mafia too, but how would he help town at all in case there is no more than 1 mafia in that list for example? ..
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
well i don't really care about two as long as he helps town but eventually it'll hurt town since as i already said i actually don't think that there is more than 2 mafia in that list, maybe only 1,
it's not really nessesary that he softclaim cause it's right it can help mafia too, but how would he help town at all in case there is no more than 1 mafia in that list for example? ..
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
I want you all to die actually besides twoSalvage wrote:
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
You know, I dunno if you guys said this yet, but how many mafia are we supposedly looking at? 3 or 4?