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Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
what? i'm not too concentrated right now cause i'm at work .. but i can't help to look at this subforum while workin



my vote was just a rv nothing more nothing less .. also i feel like you've been town enough times so my gut says you're mafia now, doesn't really mather cause i don't trust my gut, just wanted to point it out tho.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
oh and i don't like RV at all, but i wanted to post something so yeah.
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
Fascinating how easy it is to make Salvage post suspicious/strange stuff
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
so you don't like random voting but saw me say I don't like it and instead of agreeing/commenting on it you decide to random vote

makes perfect sense
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
i actually didn't read it, i was reading what wojjan posted and the only post that was there was the first one by luna, then i voted.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
vote for chris and I'll forgive you
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
It took you over 8 minutes to read Wojjan's posts and formulate a random vote?
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
Actually, unvote; vote: Wojjan
mod: votecount?
I wonder if man can slay a god.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
it did, i'm not reading the thread in my house you know Luna .. got things to do too.



i don't need you to forgive me two, i'll vote whoever i want.


unvote.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
unvote, vote salvage
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
hi backfire
Backfire
3,207 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
Hi, friend.

Vote : Salvage
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
and now you're calling out backfire when mashley was lurking too

mashley+salvage=mafia team
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Users browsing this forum: Backfire, Luna, MLGnom and 0 guests



i'm not watching the forums all the time like you do two-.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I know for a fact you watch more than me
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu
Hi guys.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
you know wrong then.



i watch the forums not the details of it all the time like you do.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
hi ls.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
who has to watch details when you know everything
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
how do you know everything?
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
He is implying that you know everything because you are scum
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Oh Two, I've missed you not really
I mean, really. Calling out someone for a random vote? Are you really that desperate to scumpaint?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I mean, really. Posting after being accused of lurking? Are you really that desperate to appear town?

hint: you aren't appearing that way
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
oh okay ..


i'm just f5'ing the mafia forum .. saw backfire and wanted him to post, i actually didn't see mashley.



Mashley you know two plays that way idk what's so surprising about it that makes u think it's "desperate to scumpaint", i'm not taking the option of him being scum away tho .. i actually find it very likely.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Wojjan

Luna wrote:

Actually, unvote; vote: Wojjan
mod: votecount?
I wonder if man can slay a god.


Salvage - 2 (Two, Backfire)
Two - 1 (Chris)
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Oh don't give me that bullshit. Accusing someone of lurking is a ridiculous way to form suspicions. Fyi I was typing a post and then my computer BSOD'd. That good enough for you?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it's about as good and true as salvage trying to say his excuse for being selectively attentive is selective attention
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
Why is Two so good at making people defend themselves and reveal information when there is no need to?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
revealing information helps town, Luna

you know, your opposing faction
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
lol
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
Alright, everyone who has posted so far besides Two is mafia.

gg
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
are you saying that's impossible
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
hi
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it should be noted that I actually thought you were being serious at first
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

Two wrote:

revealing information helps town, Luna

you know, your opposing faction

i lol'd hard at this post.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Wojjan did you write the opening yourself? If so, impressive o.o
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Wojjan
(Yes! All of the words in this game, including all role PM flavor, are my own! I'm glad you like it!)
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
and with that krzy makes the best move so far in the game: diversion
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley

Wojjan wrote:

(Yes! All of the words in this game, including all role PM flavor, are my own! I'm glad you like it!)
Maybe you should be writing a novel instead of a mafia game :P
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
with mashley as his co-contributor
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
no bites :(

as productive as that was, I think we should start figuring out this game

based on what my role is, I assume we all have a role associated with either a unique game or just memorable games

since mafia apparently either have easy fakeclaims or gain some sort of advantage with a mass roleclaim, I think we should softclaim through game flavor

my role is from The Werewolf Game
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
My role is from Mafia Under the Sea
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
My role is not taken directly from a game, but it is based on a game through flavor.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
so is ours I think? what is it based off of?
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
Sane Mafia 2
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu
Yeah, this softclaim may work, assuming Wojjan didn't have enough foresight to see this.

My role is from Team Fortress 2 Mafia.
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna

LadySuburu wrote:

My role is from Team Fortress 2 Mafia.
Is your role *from* TF2 Mafia or *based on* the game?
Same question to everyone else.
Since my role has nothing to do with any of the roles in the game except for a convoluted flavor relation.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Luna wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

My role is from Team Fortress 2 Mafia.
Is your role *from* TF2 Mafia or *based on* the game?
Same question to everyone else.
Since my role has nothing to do with any of the roles in the game except for a convoluted flavor relation.

The character I am is from the game, the role itself is not a copy of the role from the game.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
unvote vote: LadySuburu

just saying ok to a soft claim without even discussing it at all

yeah right you just want your mafia ability that's not like you at all
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
??? what makes ladysuburu different from luna and mashley
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

Two wrote:

??? what makes ladysuburu different from luna and mashley
LS is good at mafia
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
well someone is nervous about what town can learn from this
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
not to imply luna or mashley sucks but LS is above average and usually discusses while weighing out the pros and cons of stuff before they do it

they seem eager
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

Two wrote:

well someone is nervous about what town can learn from this
I don't see why you would try to "exploit" what Wojjan said by soft claiming because it's the exact same thing as mass claiming imo

just what exactly do you think we could learn from this besides chancing mafia getting an obvious advantage/ability from it
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I want to know as much as possible about how this was set up without giving them an advantage. It looks pretty bad if 3 people claim werewolf game, for example, and 2 of them die and show up as mafia. The only way you can really be opposed to this is if you know something we don't.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

Two wrote:

I want to know as much as possible about how this was setup without giving them an advantage. It looks pretty bad if 3 people claim werewolf game, for example, and 2 of them die and show up as mafia. The only way you can really be opposed to this is if you know something we don't.
or if you're oblivious to the fact Wojjan said 500x that mafia would be ready for claiming

you seem more mafia than LS
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

unvote vote: LadySuburu

just saying ok to a soft claim without even discussing it at all

yeah right you just want your mafia ability that's not like you at all
Normal games: (before the anti-massclaim craze)

Two: Let's massclaim.

Town massclaims.

Town benefits nicely.


This game:

Mod: There's anti-massclaim features in place.

Two: Let's softclaim then.

Based on massclaims benefiting town, and knowing a true massclaim hurts town, softclaim forces scum to fake one of the games they are from, and most likely will still benefit town.


Very nice attempt at painting me though chris, I now have a lead this game, day 1 at that.

Vote: Chris
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
wow you really are under pressure aren't you LS

I've never seen you vote for someone because they voted for you D1
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Death Note Mafia here .. reading stufff i'm slow.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

LadySuburu wrote:

Based on massclaims benefiting town, and knowing a true massclaim hurts town, softclaim forces scum to fake one of the games they are from, and most likely will still benefit town.


Very nice attempt at painting me though chris, I now have a lead this game, day 1 at that.

Vote: Chris
how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaim

nt being subtle
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

wow you really are under pressure aren't you LS

I've never seen you vote for someone because they voted for you D1
If you'll look at my previous games, in actuality I almost never even vote D1.

You know why? Because I have no leads and it's always RV bullcrap.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
actually it's not, rv it's crap but it can lead to interesting talks and to interesting reads, i do find out about a lot of things d1.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaim

nt being subtle
I don't "Know", but I can assume.

Implying you know what I mean to make me look scummier, nt being subtle.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

LadySuburu wrote:

Chris wrote:

how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaim

nt being subtle
I don't "Know", but I can assume.

Implying you know what I mean to make me look scummier, nt being subtle.
so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all instead

so pro town of you
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all instead

so pro town of you
That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.

See: Me coroner claiming D1 in WWG.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
risks are best taken day 1 anyway

we have a cushion of 22 players
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

Chris wrote:

so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all instead

so pro town of you
That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.

See: Me coroner claiming D1 in WWG.
EBWOP: Insomniac.
Chris_old
0 posts
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Chris_old

LadySuburu wrote:

That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.

See: Me coroner claiming D1 in WWG.
of course I'm reluctant to possibly give mafia an opportunity to have an advantage the entire game just because a few people think softclaiming is some type of exploit that Wojjan didn't consider

your entire point is "yeah it could help mafia but on the slim chance Wojjan was dumb enough to put all the mafia in one game, let's do it!"

Two wrote:

risks are best taken day 1 anyway

we have a cushion of 22 players
it doesn't matter what day if it lasts the entire game
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it doesn't even have to be about wojjan putting all the mafia in 1 game for it to be useful
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
this conversation, for example, is a wonderful by-product
Chris_old
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Joined February 2008
Chris_old

Two wrote:

it doesn't even have to be about wojjan putting all the mafia in 1 game for it to be useful
you don't have to talk for LS in the thread

thats what day chat is for

but care to explain how
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

your entire point is "yeah it could help mafia but on the slim chance Wojjan was dumb enough to put all the mafia in one game, let's do it!"
Scumpaint harder.

If I believed that this strategy didn't have a higher chance of helping town than hurting it, I wouldn't have gone through with it.

If I believed that Wojjan would put all the mafia in one game, I would be an idiot.


My point is, that I believe claiming what game we're from as stated above has a higher chance to help town than hurt it.

Your entire posts are "Let's take something LS is saying, intentionally misinterpret or flat out change it, and post it as if it's what they said and truely mean!"
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Wojjan, you impress even the best creative writers out there, I'm sure. (If anyone asks, no, I am nowhere NEAR as good as being creative)


Also, I should probably make a RV, shouldn't I? ...Nah, not worth my time for a RV.

@Softclaiming: I don't even know what game mine came from, to be honest. Then again, I don't really research unless it's really necessary. =/
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it says pretty clearly what game your role is from
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
unless mafia roles are different

maybe that's why chris has such an aversion to it
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
that was easy.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Two: ... *headdesk* Duh.

Instead of softclaiming, I'm giving out a hint: It's the prequel to my first game on the forums.


FYI, I love giving hints. :3
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Two wrote:

unless mafia roles are different

maybe that's why chris has such an aversion to it
I've explained fully why I think it's stupid

the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all

and two the only thing anyone has to do to gain your trust is agree with you

they will be in your blind spot the rest of the game
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
oh stfu with your hints

even as a spectator they're enragingly pointless
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
that's mean chris :(
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Salvage: RVs are obviously easy to do, to be honest. Anyone can simply make a RV and put pressure on people.

Too bad that strategy doesn't work on me. :P
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
it's not RV, and i don't mind pressuring you cause you already claimed mafia to me.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Two: I'm a bastard when I do things. Keep that in mind.

(No, I don't think I'm as evil as LS and his bastard mods, but I could be)
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Salvage: You're so clever. My first post might've been a slip, but that's because I didn't think the URL on the role PM linked to the game it came from, but rather, to the MS wiki explaining what it is.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all
So, how exactally am I desperate?

Things I have done in relation to the softclaim strategy:

1. Softclaim.

2. Attack you for your arguments against me (which relate to the softclaim strategy), most of which contain some form of scumpainting.


Oh, and nice try again with painting me. Though, it's getting a little old.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I guess there isn't too many ways to word mafia is there swiftwolf
Chris_old
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Joined February 2008
Chris_old

LadySuburu wrote:

Chris wrote:

the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all
So, how exactally am I desperate?

Things I have done in relation to the softclaim strategy:

1. Softclaim.

2. Attack you for your arguments against me (which relate to the softclaim strategy), most of which contain some form of scumpainting.


Oh, and nice try again with painting me. Though, it's getting a little old.
scumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaint

do you have anything else to say or are you stuck on how to show softclaiming helps anything
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Nice table stretch, Chris. >_>

I think you're both trying to separate from each other, by the looks of it. You're BOTH on the same topic, so why don't you look elsewhere?
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
1,384 posts
Joined July 2008
foulcoon
Hi guys.

I'm from Mafia Game which under further investigation is absolutely the game that Two hosted.

I'm a role directly from that game.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..Wow. That game brings back memories.


...Dunno why I'm being nostalgic right now.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
cause it's an easy way to divert discussion imo

the only reason I haven't voted for you is cause you didn't actually softclaim
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
stickied
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Vote: Salvage

So many pages in 1 hour... things just got serious.

My role is from the Werewolf Returns Game.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
what are you talking about swift



are you saying we should quit the topic of you roleclaiming mafia? ..



unvote; vote Swiftwolf Yellowtail
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

scumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaint

do you have anything else to say or are you stuck on how to show softclaiming helps anything
I would say something else, but you keep doing it.

Also, revealing that information right now completely nullifies the chance for it to help (based on what I believe we can find out.)
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Two: The Werewolf Game
Mashley: Mafia Under The Sea
Luna: Sane Mafia 2
LadySuburu: Team Fortress 2 Mafia
Salvage: Death Note Mafia
foulcoon: Mafia Game (Two)
animask: Werewolves Return
Chris: mafia
Swiftwolf Yellowtail: mafia
Backfire: ???
0_o: ???
Ivalset: ???
Lybydose: ???
JInxyjem: ???
pieguy1372: ???
bmin11: ???
NoHItter: ???
adam2046: ???
Rantai: ???
KRZY: ???
Lilac: ???
akrolsmr: ???
Chris_old
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Chris_old
yeah that sounds like bs LS

not to mention if anyone fake claimed you wouldn't be able to tell ever

you said yourself you aren't even a role from your game, but just based on the game itself

LadySuburu wrote:

Yeah, this softclaim may work, assuming Wojjan didn't have enough foresight to see this.

My role is from Team Fortress 2 Mafia.

LadySuburu wrote:

The character I am is from the game, the role itself is not a copy of the role from the game.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

not to mention if anyone fake claimed you wouldn't be able to tell ever
I disagree.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
LS is TF2 spy

calling it now
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