If Luna can't kill anymore, lets have Mara to use his ability and have Rantai to redirect LunaticMara's action to Luna?
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Mara can't use his ability now (only guess who will die). I think. He's decided to be incredibly vague so far so I have no idea.
Oh right I forgot tastelikecoke orz. How about have fishie to hide behind Rantai? If we use the above strategy, we can confirm Rantai rather LunaticMara recruited his original target or redirected target (Luna)
I think he can since this is practically the same day as yesterday (even dead people are alive), but I guess it can't be bad to be sure.
@Mara
Can you use your ability?
@Mara
Can you use your ability?
Though if fishie hides behind me, what's stopping the mafia from shooting me and taking both of us out?
Nothing, but it forces mafia to kill unconfirmed targets rather than known townies such as LadySuburu.
Sorry, but I haven't asked yet. I'll catch NoHItter today and see if I can still use mah chatskillz.bmin11 wrote:
@Mara
Can you use your ability?
What I'll do, if I still have it? What I'll do, if not?
Depends. We need tastelikecoke to ask if he can use his power tonight or not, then base it on that too. We have 5 days still no rush to finalize night actions yet.LunaticMara wrote:
What I'll do, if I still have it? What I'll do, if not?
Righto. That works for me.Lybydose wrote:
Nothing, but it forces mafia to kill unconfirmed targets rather than known townies such as LadySuburu.
responding before prod, i don't really have anything to add right now other than fml that i chose to protect mash over swift on night 2
@Luna
Do you still have your ability to kill?
Do you still have your ability to kill?
There goes that plan. I was hoping no one would point this out and Luna would slip and go along with the plan, thus contradicting an earlier statement. Oh well.bmin11 wrote:
@Luna
Do you still have your ability to kill?
I already stated that I don't have my kill anymore.
orzLybydose wrote:
There goes that plan. I was hoping no one would point this out and Luna would slip and go along with the plan, thus contradicting an earlier statement. Oh well.bmin11 wrote:
@Luna
Do you still have your ability to kill?
I say instead we have Rantai redirect Luna to fishie, who then hides behind someone. Or something similar.
Oh, Lyby that sly ninja
Explanation of above: I still kind of think Luna is the SK, but if we have Rantai redirect to someone who can't die, we can confirm that Luna is NOT the SK depending on death results. And if the SK's kill is optional and isn't Luna and decides to WIFOM it up by killing no one, then hey, our actions prevented people from dying.
I'll catch up to your plan after I come back from sleep @_@. I like how the plan sounds so far
I am okay with this plan
Sounds good to me, better than just targeting random people with your abilities anyway.
So uh... What's the plan guys?
Mara find out from NoHItter if he can still recruit for talk. (Need this info.)
If so:
fishie hide behind Rantai?
Rantai redirect Mara to tastelikecoke?
tastelikecoke commute?
Not sure on the specifics, but this is roughly what I've understood is the current plan.
Tastelikecoke PM NoHItter on if he has a charge. (Was this ever done?)Lyby wrote:
tastelikecoke find out if you still have a charge for tonight.
If so, we do this:
Luna announce a target
Rantai redirect Luna to tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke commute
fishie hide behind Rantai
lynch akrolsmir
Mara find out from NoHItter if he can still recruit for talk. (Need this info.)
If so:
fishie hide behind Rantai?
Rantai redirect Mara to tastelikecoke?
tastelikecoke commute?
Not sure on the specifics, but this is roughly what I've understood is the current plan.
I say instead we have Rantai redirect Luna to fishie, who then hides behind someone. Or something similar.fishie hides behind someone (another unconfirmed?)
I redirect Luna to fishie
Mara to tastelikecoke?
tastelikecoke commutes?
Is what I thought was going on.
Only problem I currently see after thinking through it:
The real SK could kill my "intended target" and frame both Rantai and me by doing so.
Or is there anything I'm missing?
The real SK could kill my "intended target" and frame both Rantai and me by doing so.
Or is there anything I'm missing?
Unless I understand the hider role wrong, fishie can't be killed if I redirect you to him. Likewise, if a SK/mafia shoots him he won't die due to the same reason.
Oh unless you mean I somehow fail to redirect you and you 'shoot' the person you're meant to (ie another person shoots).
I guess only a roleblocker could make that happen? Which means it won't happen.
Edit: Added the "Which means it won't happen" >.<
I guess only a roleblocker could make that happen? Which means it won't happen.
Edit: Added the "Which means it won't happen" >.<
Yes, but the real SK could kill someone else and then claim that you fakeclaimed your redirection role, letting my SK-kill go through.
ninja'd
I guess it comes down to my honesty. I assure you, I am a redirector.
Rantai wrote:
I say instead we have Rantai redirect Luna to fishie, who then hides behind someone. Or something similar.fishie hides behind someone (another unconfirmed?)
I redirect Luna to fishie
Mara to tastelikecoke?
tastelikecoke commutes?
Is what I thought was going on.
fishie hide behind Rantai? (Can be messed with by SK or Mafia sneakiness.)
Rantai redirect Mara to tastelikecoke? (Allows us to confirm that Rantai can redirect, and results from fishie hiding might get us the other info.)
tastelikecoke commute? (Mara shouldn't die unless taste is mafia in this situation.)
VS
fishie hides behind someone (another unconfirmed?) (fishie would have to annouce target, and still can be messed with.)
I redirect Luna to fishie (Kind-of confirms Luna's alignment if successful, but can be messed with in multiple ways.)
Mara to tastelikecoke? (Sounds okay except it can also be messed with.)
tastelikecoke commutes? (No real bonuses here.)
I think in the comparison my strategy is better. Not sure, as I may be missing something.
Fishie, I'm not sure if you posted it already but do you die is you target scum or only if you target mafia?
Precisely, would you die when targeting SK? I don't want to have false town-confirmations
Precisely, would you die when targeting SK? I don't want to have false town-confirmations
Wait, which action you guys want me to do? Chat one (if it still exist, mod isn't online yet) or the guessing one?
Chat, if you can.LunaticMara wrote:
Wait, which action you guys want me to do? Chat one (if it still exist, mod isn't online yet) or the guessing one?
(Stupid quick reply)
Alright.
Nothing was mentioned in the role PM about what would happen to me if I hopped on a mafia/SK target.
I assume that I will not die... But we will see eventually.
Alright.
Nothing was mentioned in the role PM about what would happen to me if I hopped on a mafia/SK target.
I assume that I will not die... But we will see eventually.
Hmm with the first part. If fishie is a hider then both of us could be shot for a 2 in 1 deal, so that'll confirm both of us I guess. Me directing to tastelikecoke makes sense but the problem there is that if Mara is shot then we can't confirm tastelikecoke or myself (wifom to the extreme here).LadySuburu wrote:
fishie hide behind Rantai? (Can be messed with by SK or Mafia sneakiness.)
Rantai redirect Mara to tastelikecoke? (Allows us to confirm that Rantai can redirect, and results from fishie hiding might get us the other info.)
tastelikecoke commute? (Mara shouldn't die unless taste is mafia in this situation.)
VS
fishie hides behind someone (another unconfirmed?) (fishie would have to annouce target, and still can be messed with.)
I redirect Luna to fishie (Kind-of confirms Luna's alignment if successful, but can be messed with in multiple ways.)
Mara to tastelikecoke? (Sounds okay except it can also be messed with.)
tastelikecoke commutes? (No real bonuses here.)
I think in the comparison my strategy is better. Not sure, as I may be missing something.
Honestly I am not sure if either will work the way we (what I percieve to be) intended it to be.
Mod: Under the hypothetical situation that a hider exists in a game you host, would a hider die from hiding behind a mafia or SK?FisHie wrote:
(Stupid quick reply)
Alright.
Nothing was mentioned in the role PM about what would happen to me if I hopped on a mafia/SK target.
I assume that I will not die... But we will see eventually.
Whoops, I did miss something there. More specifically I messed up people. You should be recruited by mara, and Fishie should be the one on taste.Rantai wrote:
Hmm with the first part. If fishie is a hider then both of us could be shot for a 2 in 1 deal, so that'll confirm both of us I guess. Me directing to tastelikecoke makes sense but the problem there is that if Mara is shot then we can't confirm tastelikecoke or myself (wifom to the extreme here).LadySuburu wrote:
fishie hide behind Rantai? (Can be messed with by SK or Mafia sneakiness.)
Rantai redirect Mara to tastelikecoke? (Allows us to confirm that Rantai can redirect, and results from fishie hiding might get us the other info.)
tastelikecoke commute? (Mara shouldn't die unless taste is mafia in this situation.)
VS
fishie hides behind someone (another unconfirmed?) (fishie would have to annouce target, and still can be messed with.)
I redirect Luna to fishie (Kind-of confirms Luna's alignment if successful, but can be messed with in multiple ways.)
Mara to tastelikecoke? (Sounds okay except it can also be messed with.)
tastelikecoke commutes? (No real bonuses here.)
I think in the comparison my strategy is better. Not sure, as I may be missing something.
Honestly I am not sure if either will work the way we (what I percieve to be) intended it to be.
fishie hide behind X?
Mara target Rantai
Rantai redirect fishie to tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke commute
Something like that.
Mara target Rantai
Rantai redirect fishie to tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke commute
Something like that.
So I don't redirect Mara?
Ninja'd
Ninja'd
Ok. So now the only open person is Mara, leaving me to be scum painted the next day.
If that's the best we have I guess it'll have to do.
If that's the best we have I guess it'll have to do.
Do we have plan B, if I won't get my chatterzzz back?
Wait... Tastelikecoke can commute ? Since when ? D:
Nvm, I get what you mean now, silly me. Who do I hop on ?
tastelikecoke, according to that.
tastelikecoke wrote:
you want role name?
I am a Super Blocker.
I can charge my powers at Night, then at the other night I can unleash my power which will block night actions targeted to me, depending on the situation.
jaqenn picked Dragon Ball Z: Budokai, one of the games more precisely.
Splinter Cell: Conviction Batman: Arkham Asylum being the others.
inb4 tastelikecoke hasn't "charged his powers" yet, which would be hilarious because night 4 would be "every other night".
Also I was looking at the chosen games again and I don't see how that really fits at all.
... that actually is a good point.foulcoon wrote:
inb4 tastelikecoke hasn't "charged his powers" yet, which would be hilarious because night 4 would be "every other night".
Also I was looking at the chosen games again and I don't see how that really fits at all.
It sounds a lot more like a strong kill to me. (DBZ anyone?)
Considering all the immunity roles too.... hmm.
Gonna leave this here.tastelikecoke wrote:
As for the history:
- Charged N1.
- Released N2. Was not targetted.
- Charged N3.
- Slipped N4. My combo was broken, so I lost the invuln. Was not targetted either.
Not sure if I still have a charge at Night 4.2.
Got to charge for one day then release your powers, obliterating your target to the point that they can't be identified?
Yay theories!
Yay theories!
That would actually make sense, since nobody was NK'd last night, right ??
Actually, no, that doesn't make sense... Hm.
What I was more getting at was - Charge on night 1, kill every other night.
Though it's a stretch and more for the sake of putting it out there.
Though it's a stretch and more for the sake of putting it out there.
The problem with this is that it doesn't show fishie's alignment- all we have is his word for what happens to him at night. That is, he could say that the mod told him he was unsuccessful at hiding or something, but we would have no verification of that.LS wrote:
fishie hide behind X?
Mara target Rantai
Rantai redirect fishie to tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke commute
While you ask if you still have your power, ask to see if this is true as well. KRZY wasn't weak originally, so I'm not sure why you would be now.LunaticMara wrote:
I guess since KRZY was a recruiter, targeting mafia would get me killed
I'm going to assume that like most hiders, he'll die hiding behind scum.akrolsmir wrote:
The problem with this is that it doesn't show fishie's alignment- all we have is his word for what happens to him at night. That is, he could say that the mod told him he was unsuccessful at hiding or something, but we would have no verification of that.While you ask if you still have your power, ask to see if this is true as well. KRZY wasn't weak originally, so I'm not sure why you would be now.LunaticMara wrote:
I guess since KRZY was a recruiter, targeting mafia would get me killed
LadySuburu wrote:
I'm going to assume that like most hiders, he'll die hiding behind scum.
More proof he's lying?Fishie wrote:
I don't die if I target a mafia, I think.
Could be.akrolsmir wrote:
More proof he's lying?Fishie wrote:
I don't die if I target a mafia, I think.
How about this? This is only when fishie dies from hiding behind a scum.
- Mara recruits one of the confirmed
Rantai redirects Mara to one of the unconfirmed (pieguy, fishie, or tastelikecoke). You may call it out before N4.2 starts.
fishie hides behind Rantai
tastelikecoke commutes
- 1. Mafia (+ SK) shoot Mara
Check if fishie is dead or not
Yes -> Rantai you scum
No -> Rantai calls out who he redirected to. We lynch the person and if we get a townie lynch, we lynch both fishie and Rantai. We lynch fishie first in this case.
2. Mafia shoots Mara and SK shoots Rantai + Fishie or vice versa
Well, shit. Atleast we get two more confirmed I guess.
3. Mafia (+ SK) shoot Rantai + Fishie
Well, shit. Atleast we get two more confirmed I guess. Mara may die from this and we can't gather any information from it...
- 1. Mafia (+ SK) shoot Mara
Check if fishie is dead or not
Yes -> Rantai you scum
No -> We lynch the target Rantai called out. If we get a town lynch, we lynch both fishie and Rantai. We lynch fishie first in this case.
2. Mafia shoots Mara and SK shoots Rantai + fishie or vice versa
WIFOM. This may differ depends on Rantai's call.
3. Mafia (+ SK) shoots Rantai + fishie.
Same as case 2. If Mara dies, we are in WIFOM again.
This is from KRZY's roleclaim post
I'm going to wait until fishie vertifies that rather he dies or not from hiding behind a scum. Also, I want to know if Mara can still use his ability.
So I would assume Mara would die if he recruits a scum.KRZY wrote:
This is probably because I sent in Pro Evolution Soccer as my first choice. I can choose a player at night and gain day/night talking privileges with that player. If said player is scum, I die.
I'm going to wait until fishie vertifies that rather he dies or not from hiding behind a scum. Also, I want to know if Mara can still use his ability.
Actually, what if fishie hides behind me and Mara submits a guess instead?
If fishie hides behind me, we're 99% guaranteed to die unless taking a 2 for 1 shot isn't worth it? At least he can grab the redirection off me (somehow I think a confirm confirming a confirm, ie setting up daytalk, isn't the most ideal way to go about it)
If fishie hides behind me, we're 99% guaranteed to die unless taking a 2 for 1 shot isn't worth it? At least he can grab the redirection off me (somehow I think a confirm confirming a confirm, ie setting up daytalk, isn't the most ideal way to go about it)
I just don't want to sacrifice 2 town (possibly 2) for just a bit of piece of mind.
Okay so
Rantai - redirector
fishie - hider
LunaticMara - recruiter
tastelikecoke - commuter
The important thing here is that we confirm the most unconfirmeds. List of unconfirmed people:
-tastelikecoke
-foulcoon
-Rantai
-fishie
-akrolsmir
IMO, it would be a lot better if we just individually used fishie and LunaticMara to attempt to find some of the unconfirmeds. For that, I propose
LunaticMara, target foulcoon
fishie, target tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke, commute
Rantai, redirect whoever as long as it's not any of these people. It would be better if you didn't say who so that there's a chance that the mafia shoots themselves.
Rantai - redirector
fishie - hider
LunaticMara - recruiter
tastelikecoke - commuter
The important thing here is that we confirm the most unconfirmeds. List of unconfirmed people:
-tastelikecoke
-foulcoon
-Rantai
-fishie
-akrolsmir
IMO, it would be a lot better if we just individually used fishie and LunaticMara to attempt to find some of the unconfirmeds. For that, I propose
LunaticMara, target foulcoon
fishie, target tastelikecoke
tastelikecoke, commute
Rantai, redirect whoever as long as it's not any of these people. It would be better if you didn't say who so that there's a chance that the mafia shoots themselves.
Vote: pieguy
LUNATICMARA, TARGET HIM!
NO, DON'T LISTEN HIM, TARGET THIS GUY!
LUNATICMARA, DESTROY THAT HELICOPTER WITH YOUR BUTT!
AAAAAA
NO, DON'T LISTEN HIM, TARGET THIS GUY!
LUNATICMARA, DESTROY THAT HELICOPTER WITH YOUR BUTT!
AAAAAA
We will come to a conclusion soon... hopefully
And can you please tell us if you can use your recruitment ability for the night?
NoHItter has been offline for 11 hours, according to Steam.
Fuck it, I'll just leave PM for him.
Fuck it, I'll just leave PM for him.
you should do that oneLunaticMara wrote:
LUNATICMARA, DESTROY THAT HELICOPTER WITH YOUR BUTT!
Lybydose wrote:
you should do that oneLunaticMara wrote:
LUNATICMARA, DESTROY THAT HELICOPTER WITH YOUR BUTT!
Also, I just sent that PM.
1: Yeah, and both the mafia and SK can screw with our results.pieguy1372 wrote:
IMO, it would be a lot better if we just individually used fishie and LunaticMara to attempt to find some of the unconfirmeds. For that, I propose
Rantai, redirect whoever as long as it's not any of these people. It would be better if you didn't say who so that there's a chance that the mafia shoots themselves.
2. You are another who didn't read the thread well. I'm pretty sure Rantai said they can't redirect mafia kills back onto themselves. Unless you mean one mafia hitting another, in which case that's a grey area and unlikely.
Oh great, I guess you're right. The effing problem is that the mafia or SK could screw with any plan we could come up with, so I tried to come up with a new plan and then completely forgot about the mafia/SK. Also, I meant a mafia hitting a different mafia.
bmin11's plan seems like the best idea, then.
bmin11's plan seems like the best idea, then.
Yes, I am able to do the chatthing again - If I understood the answer correctly.
In this case our Super Charger should also keep his ability, despite what he claimed.LunaticMara wrote:
Yes, I am able to do the chatthing again - If I understood the answer correctly.
Tastelike never really answered the question when we told him to ask NoHItter, plus he hasn't really posted much recently anyway, just the one after he posted excusing his absence.Luna wrote:
In this case our Super Charger should also keep his ability, despite what he claimed.
FoS: Taste
Hi lynch me please
Vote Mashley
Vote Mashley
Prod: fishie and tastelikecoke. Seriously, if they don't participate, I'm going to vote them and just go for free-for-all action for N4.2
Why me!? I posted on the last page... :/
Oh oops. Anyway, so you are sure that you don't die from hiding behind a scum (mafia/SK)?
I am pretty sure about that, not 100% though...
Have you not yet asked NoHItter?
I was lazy and thought that Rantai's message would be enough. Should I also send a PM ?Rantai wrote:
Mod: Under the hypothetical situation that a hider exists in a game you host, would a hider die from hiding behind a mafia or SK?
Well atleast you should know for yourself
No, seriously, lynch me
inb4Mashey is mafia pretending to be jester
that would make LS mafia too then
I wasn't really serious but it would explain why he found out the full name
Honestly, I'm not sure at all what to do (though I do still want to lynch Luna, but I'm not sure what to do after that). I'd reread the thread but there's 79 effing pages and I'm way too lazy to reread it right now, but just judging by the roles everyone claimed and the way everyone is acting in general, tastelikecoke and akrolsmir seem the most suspicious IMO.
Honestly, I'm not sure at all what to do (though I do still want to lynch Luna, but I'm not sure what to do after that). I'd reread the thread but there's 79 effing pages and I'm way too lazy to reread it right now, but just judging by the roles everyone claimed and the way everyone is acting in general, tastelikecoke and akrolsmir seem the most suspicious IMO.
whyMashley wrote:
No, seriously, lynch me
unvote; vote: tastelikecoke
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
pieguy1372 (2) - FisHie, bmin11
Luna (1) - pieguy1372
akrolsmir (1) - LadySuburu
FisHie (1) - akrolsmir
Mashley (1) - Mashley
tastelikecoke (1) - Lybydose
Not Voting (5) - LunaticMara, Rantai, foulcoon, Two, tastelikecoke
pieguy1372 (2) - FisHie, bmin11
Luna (1) - pieguy1372
akrolsmir (1) - LadySuburu
FisHie (1) - akrolsmir
Mashley (1) - Mashley
tastelikecoke (1) - Lybydose
Not Voting (5) - LunaticMara, Rantai, foulcoon, Two, tastelikecoke
I have it (finally) confirmed now, I won't die if I target a mafia.
Unvote and Vote: tastelikecoke
Meh. Unvote & Vote: tastelikecoke.
Prod him too if he doesn't post after a while.
Prod him too if he doesn't post after a while.
So, am I targeting Rantai with chatthing next?
Vote: tastelikecoke
Vote: tastelikecoke
I think so.
But now I'm confused on who to redirect.
But now I'm confused on who to redirect.
Unvote, Vote: tastelikecoke
L-2, for reference
L-2, for reference
Wanna cyber?
Okay, what happen?
I am not a Super Charger guys goddamnit.
I asked NoHitter.
I still have a Charge. Please note I can only release it at night 5, and only night actions can be avoided.
I don't understand the plans though. What, what.
I'm amused about your theories though. I haven't really watched DBZ that much.
I asked NoHitter.
I still have a Charge. Please note I can only release it at night 5, and only night actions can be avoided.
I don't understand the plans though. What, what.
I'm amused about your theories though. I haven't really watched DBZ that much.
So fishie hiding and tastelikecoke commuting are out of our option. We are back to square one guys.
Unvote just in case we don't hammer it yet
Taste and Mara's answers from NoHItter differ a bit, and Taste's doesn't sound right to me, not to mention I was already suspicious of him.
Vote: Tastelikecoke
At this point with the current claims we only have one role who can confirm a target, that being Mara. Of course, at the same time Mara could get NKed to screw with our results, so it isn't really reliable.
So, here's what I think should be done for sure:
Fishie - Hide behind Akrolsmir.
Any other actions I'm not sure about, because they can be wifomed heavilly.
Vote: Tastelikecoke
At this point with the current claims we only have one role who can confirm a target, that being Mara. Of course, at the same time Mara could get NKed to screw with our results, so it isn't really reliable.
So, here's what I think should be done for sure:
Fishie - Hide behind Akrolsmir.
Any other actions I'm not sure about, because they can be wifomed heavilly.
Could try that.
What kind of difference perhaps?LadySuburu wrote:
Taste and Mara's answers from NoHItter differ a bit, and Taste's doesn't sound right to me, not to mention I was already suspicious of him.