Jarby wrote:

dkun wrote:

No point stirring shit? I'm sorry, if he didn't start in the first place, this wouldn't of happened.

That's not resolving a conflict. That joke shouldn't of been there in the first place. I'm not the one being childish, I'm the one being serious.
And, you for kudo'ing the post in the first place? Childish, right.

Okay, so the joke was a mistake. He removed it. He's condensed his mod post and is doing his best to improve the map now without offending the mapper. His post had constructive content in it and deserved kudosu from the start, I simply gave it kudosu when he linked it because I found it hilarious. Dunno why it was denied later. Anyway, there's nothing more we should have to say as third parties. Drop it.

NotShinta wrote:

The following mod post is to be read in the most monotonous tone possible, but with less emotion.
Someone should get that guy who does those eye drop commercials.

ZelMy Little Pony: Friendship is Magic adult male fan:
00:15:565 (6) - Indeed, I wouldn't recommend stacking on a slider end on a lower-level difficulty, much less the lowest of the mapset. It can be very difficult to read the timing of this. AndincrediblydifficulttospotonHidden but still. fixed by making a pretty triangle
00:33:805 (1) - A hitobject 1/1 after a spinner is not recommended on an easier difficulty; this is because some spinning methods may require more time to recover, so 1/1 to react might not be enough for Easy players. all feexed
00:42:445 (6) - I talked about hitcircles hiding under slider ends earlier. did another pretty little triangle shape with this mod.
00:48:685 (5) - Kicksliders like this might ALSO be difficult, as the player cannot easily see where they end, and as some said, they may find it difficult attempting to go back and forth rather than staying in one spot as they are designed to do. oh come on they arent THAT hard.
00:50:605 (1) - A finish on the start of this would be lovely. okie
01:02:365 (1,2,3) - Yeah, kicksliders again. In fact, you'd probably get a better mod just looking at Sappha's. Who's lovely despite everything. Oops, I did it again. spamming spinners would make it harder for easy players. so im keeping this here.
01:05:965 (1) - Of course, finish again. okie
01:13:165 (5) - You might want to move this up a grid for straight lines. Or not. Dear God, I'm a horrible person. cant you see the isosceles triangle?

NotShinta wrote:

The following mod post is to be read in the most monotonous tone possible, but with less emotion.

General:
- What Sapphire means is that your current background, has large letterboxing, which doesn't look good. On top of that is that it isn't even of the ratio 4:3, which means white letterboxes on top of the black ones on the preview. Plus, its mock sinisterness clashes with the mood of the song. There are plenty more you can choose from, like this one, this one, or this one. Okay, that last one was not funny. But I know what is. 4TVb chose one that wasn't one of those but i think works just fine
- To refer to Sapphire again, what he means with the Sia reaction images is that your spread could be greatly improved with an Easy and/or preferably a difficolty between Zelos' and Muffin's. Mogsworth talked about making a Normal, but he's rarely present, and I had a difficulty mapped but it's a patterny Insane. I'd like to see one of the difficulties from you, actually, as Muffpony shows some promise despite all the hiddeny and stacky notes.if it becomes a huge issue then i will
- You still haven't added the suggested tags, I think you must have not gotten around to it or forgotten to update the beatmap. If so, sorry for any redundancies that might pop up here. And Sappha has a good point about the colon. THERE I DON'T NEED TO REFERENCE HIM ANYMOREAdded them to all the difficulties

zbaloney:
- Sorry if I repeat myself here at all, since I have modded this before.
- This is one of those difficulties that I hated at first but seem alright later on. Eyup.
00:14:125 (5) - I think this would look better a grid or two up and right. Or something else. Basically, I'm saying you could make this a more perfect rhombus. And in my opinion, would look much better and consistent! .ive fixed that
00:17:965 (2) - I think whistles on this start and end would work nicely.
00:23:005 - A hitcircle here would be nice, gets rid of the awkward pause there and I think fits slightly better. Plus it's more consistent. Although I've probably pointed this exact thing out before.can't remember if z wanted me to do these other ones or not though.

Muffhorse:
- For future reference, be careful using such stacky patterns as they can be difficult to read and not very good to look at. This map, however, works well enough.will keep that in mind
- Otherwise, quite nice. I think I pointed out everything I wanted to last time.

Krisom wrote:

I'm guessing Roley didn't do anything then?

ztrot wrote:

OMG RANK THIS! I mean really please I'd buy you a cookie or whatever you wanna do is fine~

Roley wrote:

it was done for the hell of it.

Larto wrote:

...it's STILL not a good idea.

Larto wrote:

I'm not hating, I'm just saying it defeats the purpose of difficulty names; they shouldn't ONLY be creative space for the mapper, they should also indicate who mapped a difficulty and, especially, what kind of difficulty your map is supposed to be. The star rating alone is not always reliable, and thus, difficulty names like these just leave the difficulty to free interpretation and won't become clear until the player plays all difficulties. You can still make it something like "Zelbrony's Normal" or something silly like that.

ztrot wrote:

it is better than some diff names we get anyays

Zelos wrote:

Not trying to spark any more drama but Ive seen sets with just "Larto" and even one as wierd as "Larto's Vegetables"

1. Disable "letterbox during breaks" as you have a video ? This will prevent the black bars that usually appear in breaks from appearing - and hiding the video.
2. Write in the map description what diff each of these is supposed to be. :/ I can guess Normal-Hard-Insane, but still.
3. You could easily get custom combo colours for that map, just following the ponies' hair for example. Try doing this =p

1. Since you went for a pretty simple (simple as in easy to play, I don't mean it in a bad way) rhythm, I recommend (really) to use simple combos to match the rhythm - that is, a new combo every big white tick. It will make sense with the way you mapped things, and emphasize the rhythm. A new combo every second big white tick could work as well, but it would make the combos quite long.
2. There are sliders that I think don't fit in the map, because they completely stop any movement and flow, and link together things that shouldn't be linked (the poum-clap should be a duo rhythm). Also, if you go for the 4/1 comboing, they break it in a very bad way. These:
   00:06:440 (4) -
   00:21:320 (4) -
   00:35:240 (1) -
   00:48:680 (6) -
3. Still talking about repeat sliders, I really think kick sliders don't fit in a Normal diff (especially not the easiest diff of the mapset). They're confusing because the number of repeats cannot be expected nor read (because the cursor hides the repeat arrows). New players don't get the reflex of holding sliders until the very end, so they will combo break on them. On top of that, yours start on red ticks, which confused even me. You're using tick rate 2 but never explot it in your diff. You can just make long slider, using the tick rates for the vibrato (kind of vibrato) in the vocals ! These:
   01:02:360 (1,3) -
   01:17:720 (1,3) -

1. I'd suggest to raise OD by one tick, but that's just a personal preference =p
2. Talking about the map itself, the blankets could be improved. I know I'm picky about it and stuff, but I see errors in blankets very easily (not everyone does or even cares), and these are easy to fix and make maps look instantly better, so please spend the few minutes for each slider. :/
   00:06:440 (4) - The body is further away than the ends.
   00:09:320 (6) - The body is closer than the ends.
   00:13:160 (2,4) - Make them parallel =p
   00:29:240 (5) - Uneven blanket ? If it's not a blanket, my bad. But if it's not, making it one would look better !
   00:41:960 (5) - Same.
   00:47:240 (5) - The slider goes too close near the end.
3. Some of the stacks feel weird to me. For instance:
   00:16:040 (3,4,5) - This one stops the movement twice in the same combo, which played weird to me.
   00:25:160 (5) - This one breaks the pattern. (4) is move to the upper left due to stacking, and it breaks the symmetry of the pattern. Not to mention the stack stops the movement induced by the sliders.
   01:09:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All the stacks break the symmetry of the pattern. :/

1. I didn't like this as much as I usually love your maps, to be honest. I foud this one to have worse flow. It might be because of the complicated spacing and directional changes, or just the way you used jumps - I don't know. Also, at times, the rhythm becomes really difficult to read. Here:
   00:22:280 (1,2) -
   00:29:960 (1,2) -

1. All diffs but this ones start at the same point. I strongly recommend to make this one start there, too.
2. Make the kiai end at the same spot as the other diffs ?

• This is the most awesome custom difficulty name I have ever seen in my modding career. I love it. Really love it.

Odaril wrote:

Roley-Pony's Taiko

1. All diffs but this ones start at the same point. I strongly recommend to make this one start there, too. done
2. Make the kiai end at the same spot as the other diffs ? I personally don't see the point of Kiai being in that end portion, so I removed it in my contribution map. But, if it really is that bothersome that the kiai time spots don't fully match the other difficulties, then alright -- said change is applied as well.

Odaril wrote:

Muffpony

1. I'd suggest to raise OD by one tick, but that's just a personal preference =p
2. Talking about the map itself, the blankets could be improved. I know I'm picky about it and stuff, but I see errors in blankets very easily (not everyone does or even cares), and these are easy to fix and make maps look instantly better, so please spend the few minutes for each slider. :/
   00:06:440 (4) - The body is further away than the ends.
   00:09:320 (6) - The body is closer than the ends.
   00:13:160 (2,4) - Make them parallel =p
   00:29:240 (5) - Uneven blanket ? If it's not a blanket, my bad. But if it's not, making it one would look better !
   00:41:960 (5) - Same.
   00:47:240 (5) - The slider goes too close near the end.
3. Some of the stacks feel weird to me. For instance:
   00:16:040 (3,4,5) - This one stops the movement twice in the same combo, which played weird to me.
   00:25:160 (5) - This one breaks the pattern. (4) is move to the upper left due to stacking, and it breaks the symmetry of the pattern. Not to mention the stack stops the movement induced by the sliders.
   01:09:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All the stacks break the symmetry of the pattern. :/

Krisom wrote:

Everything looks clean, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut you'll have to +12 to the offset (692), confirmed with Alace senpai.

I'll rebubble after that (unless you wanna get a rebubble from someone else, then I'd rank)

Charles445 wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can rank on offset change.

Krisom wrote:

Charles445 wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can rank on offset change.

Everywhere I asked was a loud and sounding no.
Did iMuffin fix the offset yet? He has not notified me..

Mecha Shadow wrote:

Just as I said. We're doomed.

Ekaru wrote:

Mecha Shadow wrote:

Just as I said. We're doomed.

Actually, we were doomed whenever somebody decided to start mapping Touhou music.

Mecha Shadow wrote:

Well, the fandom around Touhou is really clear. But the FAGGOTRY (yes) around MLP:FiM has no point.

Shiirn wrote:

protip: none of the above is, get over yourselves.

Mecha Shadow wrote:

Ekaru wrote:

Actually, we were doomed whenever somebody decided to start mapping Touhou music.

Well, the fandom around Touhou is really clear. But the FAGGOTRY (yes) around MLP:FiM has no point.

Larto wrote:

And the difficulty names were never changed for no reason at all.

Everything that is wrong with this map

FAQ wrote:

Difficulty: While the other fields should be identical between all maps in a set, the Difficulty field is filled differently for each map, to indicate which ones are harder than others. You can select one of the default names, or create your own name. While it's good to be creative, try to make it very clear which one is harder than others -- Ambiguous difficulty names can annoy players. This would also be the field where you indicate a guest mapper, if this is their difficulty (e.g. "Larto's Hard").

Sakura Hana wrote:

I probably should've been more strict on the diff names, "because he wanted to" is not a good reason as the FAQ says

FAQ wrote:

Difficulty: While the other fields should be identical between all maps in a set, the Difficulty field is filled differently for each map, to indicate which ones are harder than others. You can select one of the default names, or create your own name. While it's good to be creative, try to make it very clear which one is harder than others -- Ambiguous difficulty names can annoy players. This would also be the field where you indicate a guest mapper, if this is their difficulty (e.g. "Larto's Hard").

inb4 the FAQ is outdated, well it may be, but diff names also need to make sense to what a difficulty name is, oh well doesnt matter anymore, i probably should press on this issue harder in the future.

SPOILER

diff names are serious business all of a sudden

Zelos wrote:

Larto wrote:

And the difficulty names were never changed for no reason at all.

Everything that is wrong with this map

reasons were given. You just didn't like the reasoning behind it.
iMuffins reason was simply because he wanted to.

Zelos wrote:

I understand your point of view BUUUUUUTTTTTTTT
I honestly dont see such an issue with this because the star rating goes from 2.5 stars, to 4 stars, to 5 stars.
One should clearly be able to see the difficulty difference here. I mean really cmon it isnt that hard :p
Not trying to spark any more drama but Ive seen sets with just "Larto" and even one as wierd as "Larto's Vegetables"

Quaraezha wrote:

Ah yes, finally ranked
Congrats on osu!'s first ranked pony map \o/

Shiirn wrote:

Heaven forbid we look at the order of the difficuties

MMzz wrote:

Quaraezha wrote:

Ah yes, finally ranked :D
Congrats on osu!'s first ranked pony map \o/

Actually
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34544

Larto wrote:

So why do we have difficulty names at all, then? They basically mean nothing the way you put it. Just look at the order of the difficulties!!