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Touhou PyP Mafia [GAME OVER - Town wins!]

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LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Backfire wrote:

Yes, I did protect Lybydose last night. ^^;

KRZY wrote:

According to this plan, I voyeured Lybydose, thinking Backfire would protect the tracker according to one of Lyby's plans. Guess what, nothing happened to Lybydose!
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bmin11 wrote:

I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2

Lybydose wrote:

Oh yeah, I tracked JInxyjem. Turns out he targeted Backfire, go figure.
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Thanks guys, now we've found the group where the next mafia hides. In order of my most favored to be mafia to least:


Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect), nobody died last night. Potentially faked a doctor success by not having a kill sent in.

KRZY: Claim Voyeur, Mafia Voyeur is known as a possibility. However saying what he said at this point in the game as mafia would be somewhat suicidal since we've already lynched 2 mafia.

JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. Targeted Backfire last night, which is the only real reason he's even on this list. (Roleblocker possibility, but I don't see it likely.)


Cool, everyone else should comment now.
LadySuburu
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After thinking it over, let's go over this information more carefully.

Assuming only one mafia in this group....

Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect) [Targeted Lyby with protect?]

KRZY: Claim Voyeur (Targeted Lyby with Voyeur and says nothing happened to lyby?)

JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. (Targeted Backfire last night, Innocent.)

If:

Backfire is mafia: Impossible unless more than one in this group is mafia. JInxy returned a town result on backfire and bmin. Only possible sanities are Naive and Sane.

KRZY is mafia: Easilly possible as a Mafia Voyeur. His claim that nothing happened to Lyby would make little sense to do as mafia, but it is possible.

JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.


I change my opinion and now believe KRZY the most likely to be mafia. It is possible but unlikely that we have two mafia in this group of 3.
Rantai
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Oh man.

I was so sure the cop claim was legit.

Though if he's lying that means Backfire and JInxyjem are our last 2 mafia.

Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.

Or KRZY lied about Backfire not targeting Lybydose.

I don't know to be honest. If I had to take a stab I'd say the second one, just because I don't believe the role fits with the character very well.
Rantai
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Rantai
God damn ninja by 7 seconds.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Rantai wrote:

Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.
Thanks for reminding me about Godfather, that's a good point and makes KRZY and backfire tied again in my eyes.
Rantai
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LadySuburu wrote:

JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.
This could be a suicidal move but w/e.

It's still very possible that he is a roleblocker.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Wouldn't GF role give a town result?
Rantai
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Rantai
Yes, exactly Raging Bull.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Okay maybe I should refresh forum after reading.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
All I can think of it's either backfire or KRZY. I don't think they're both mafia since they both have different results. I'm more leaning against backfire since KRZY helped us on D2.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I'm not outing who I motivated to lower the chances of them being killed tonight. Have fun mafia!

So the results from backfire and KRZY don't add up and Backfire has done nothing to explain himself.

Vote: Backfire until I get a decent explanation other than WIFOM.
bmin11
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I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this. I still think we have to take care with people who haven't role claimed.

Claimed:
Backfire (2 shot vig + 1 shot doc)
Lydy (Tracker)
bmin11 (Watcher)
KRZY (Voyeur)
LS (Mason + 9% chance vig)
Rolled (Mason)
Wojjan (Motivator)
DxS (1-shot commuter)
JInxyjem (Cop)

Not claimed:
Rantai
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

bmin11 wrote:

I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this.
It's not really easy for two towns to have conflicting results like this.

KRZY: "Nothing happened to Lybydose." (Which means no protection.)

Backfire: "I protected Lybydose." (Which means one of the two is lying, or...)

JInxyjem targeted Backfire (Which means he may have roleblocked backfire.)

I'd like to scumhunt there since at least one of the three is confirmed scum. We just don't know which one yet.
Raging Bull
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Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
bmin11
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bmin11
I would still like everyone to role claim regardless. Anyway, heading to my class
Salvage
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Salvage
how's that? .. he could be lying about his role.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.
Wojjan
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LadySuburu wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.
Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?
Wojjan
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that's Eirin Yagokoro, not an earring, by the way. typoes
Rantai
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Rantai
Well any misinformation is bad information right?

Roleclaim: Konpaku Youmu - Seraph Knight

I'm almost certain I blocked the mafia NK last night, that being bmin. Seeing as he was still 'vulnerable' in the 'plan' and that Chris was preaching his death I'm pretty sure they followed through.

Now I know roleclaiming as a doctor role isn't the best but it's annoying me to see that wrong assumption and well I doubt they are going to attack bmin again anyway.
LadySuburu
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Wojjan wrote:

Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?
Maybe, which would just add to the confusion.

@Rantai Which night did you use your ability?
Rantai
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Rantai
Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Rantai
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Rantai
Seeing as that is out in the open, this is also part of the reason why I wanted the watcher to claim after everyone started stating that the watcher would be a guaranteed NK if he did claim.
Raging Bull
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Well I don't want to be lynched when I'm asleep.


Roleclaim: Fujiwara no Mokou

I should be the equivalent to a townie since I have no ability listed.
Rantai
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Rantai
Apart from being immortal and all.

Survivor?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.

I think by now this game is sort of won. Currently I feel the most for a JInxyjem lynch. Odds are he roleblocked Backfire just to get us to lynch him because he didn't show up in the report, and targeted the watcher because they'd have to kill him first to get through to the tracker. Voyeur on his own is worth a lot less.

Vote: Jinx
Raging Bull
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Lol I really thought I would be a survivor when I picked Mokou but sadly nope.
LadySuburu
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Rantai wrote:

Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Alright, I mostly believe you. (95%)

Well, now the three are even again.

Backfire, shoot Raging Bull tonight. Being Mokou he should survive based on what he's claimed.

I'm good with a JInxy lynch.
Raging Bull
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What? But I'm not immortal?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Rantai is the one that said I'm immortal.
Wojjan
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yeah he didn't claim any powers, including Bulletproofness

which is odd, in a game like this. Everyone so far has had at least a little modifier like lover or mason to it.
LadySuburu
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Raging Bull wrote:

What? But I'm not immortal?
It's either secretly a part of your role, or you're lying. Either way is fine with me.


I SEVERELY doubt the existance of any plain vanilla roles in this game.

Hey look, Ninja'd by wojjan.
Rantai
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Wojjan wrote:

yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.
If bmin dies I'll jump off a cliff.

Inb4 a third strongman.
Raging Bull
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Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
Rantai
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Oh a lyncher. Looks like your game is over. But now we know there is a Kaguya around.
Raging Bull
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Vote: Kaguya

:(
LadySuburu
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Raging Bull wrote:

Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
A lyncher, perfect.

Yo Kaguya, claim.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Kaguya should claim since she's essentially conffirmed town. go go go
bmin11
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Vote: JInx


By the way, is it possible for the lyncher to have a mafia member as a target?
Rantai
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Yeah it is.

I'll assume the Kaguya is a mafia if I don't see a roleclaim in 24 hours.
Lybydose
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Ok I lied, I didn't actually watch JInxyjem, I watched Rantai. He targeted bmin.

Reason for this was that I wasn't sure if Rantai was mafia, so I was trying to bait him into thinking I had wasted my Tracker ability and that he could claim on his own terms rather than after I revealed results "oh yeah I targeted him and I'm a protection role". It matches up though, so he's either telling the truth or really clever.

So I'm willing to believe that Rantai's protection went through on bmin and he was the kill target, and either Backfire or JInxyjem are mafia.

Right now I'm leaning toward JInxyjem being a roleblocker and backfire's ability failing, thus not appearing on KRZY's list.
Rantai
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Lynch all liars <3

Alright then, Unvote wait for the next day Salvage :3

However I am not so sure about JInxyjem, I'm going to sleep on this.
Lybydose
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Also, if JInxyjem really is a Cop (and not a roleblocker), that means one of two things:

1. JInxyjem is a Random Cop or Naive Cop and Backfire is mafia. Naive Cop does not fit Shiki at all though.
2. JInxyjem is a Sane Cop and KRZY is mafia.

JInxyjem being a roleblocker makes perfect sense though. Night 1 he likely would have targeted KRZY, the only known aux role at the time. Unfortunately for him, it got swapped on to Rolled by Two's bus drive, and didn't do anything.

Night 2 his plan was to block the "known doctor" and then kill a known aux such as bmin.
Lybydose
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Oh yeah there's also the possibility that JInx is Random/Naive and then both KRZY and Backfire are mafia, but I doubt that.
Lybydose
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oh damnit I forgot all about Godfathers.

So JInx could be sane, KRZY town, and Backfire a godfather.
KRZY
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Hey guess what

I got a PM from a mod 3 hrs ago, saying Lyby was actually motivated. Apparently someone sent in their night PM late.

Thought I had to drop this off.
Wojjan
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yeeeeeeah go KRZY. Didn't I say I wasn't gonna out my motivation?
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also yeah I confirm being a slacking loser
bmin11
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Motivated tracker o_o I wonder what that would do. Any noticable difference, Lyby?

@KRZY
That action was done during N2, right? Or are you also able to receive actions done during day time, if it's done on the person you voyeured last night?
Lybydose
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Actually that's perfect if Wojjan confirms I was actually the motivation target. Mafia will want to kill me now, so here's what we do:

Lynch JInxyjem due to the possibility of him being a roleblocker. Choose a target for Backfire. If backfire is really mafia, they waste their nightkill on whatever target we have chosen or risk not having Backfire's target die and him outted as mafia. If he's non-mafia, his kill goes through and then we see two kills appear the next day. That is, unless the mafia decides to not send in a kill, which is again beneficial to us because the mafia isn't killing anyone.
Lybydose
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@bmin: Wojjan said it took until the next night to have any effect.
bmin11
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Mafia won't be able to frame Backfire by killing the same target, because KRZY or I will be able to tell if the kill was overlapped or not
Lybydose
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also vote: JInxyjem
KRZY
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Okay what started as my insight has become something of a summary of what we know already, but here goes:

So I doubt Backfire has a Godfather role since he already has like two kills and one protect, which would pretty much confirm him as town UNLESS Jinxy was an insane/random/naive cop (I think an insane cop is not entirely out of the option since Shikieiki is so intent on judging people...)

Now, he claims he protected Lybydose last night, but that did not come through. The two possible explanations to this are that

1. He was roleblocked.
2. He is lying.

I am more inclined to think that he was roleblocked, since it was too much of a risk for him to not protect tracker when he knew full well I would be voyeuring the tracker to see if he did.

So who is the roleblocker?

People claim to be:

1. Lybydose - Toyosatomimi no Miko (tracker)
3. Rantai - Youmu (seraph knight - targeted bmin11)
4. JInxyjem - Shikieiki (cop, possibly insane)
9. LadySuburu - Cirno (masonry with Rolled, 9% chance of kill)
10. Rolled - Daiyousei (masonry with LadySuburu, no other special ability)
11. 0_o Kiddo-kun DeathxShinigami - Yukari (1-shot commuter)
12. akrolsmir - unknown
13. Wojjan - Kanako (motivator)
14. bmin11 - Aya (watcher)
15. Raging Bull - Mokou (lyncher, lynchee unknown)
16. Salvage - unknown
17. Gabi Backfire - Reisen Udongein (2 kills, 1 protect)
18. KRZY - Hatate (voyeur)

Roleblocker must be either akrolsmir or Salvage then.

Care to explain, both?
KRZY
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Oh and wojjan sorry, posted before reading thread ;_;
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good game mafia 8-)
Lybydose
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the only possible roleblocker (if backfire was really blocked) is JInxyjem
KRZY
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Lybydose wrote:

the only possible roleblocker (if backfire was really blocked) is JInxyjem
how?
Lybydose
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bmin watched backfire and saw only JInxyjem target him
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bmin11 wrote:

I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2
X_X missed that

okay

so either jinxy is actually a roleblocker who false-claimed or backfire did not protect lyby.

vote: jinxy
Lybydose
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Also what if the lyncher's target is also a lyncher, targeting the other lyncher? I mean it would make sense given the characters. That would put akrolsmir as the most likely to be Kaguya, as he seems pretty dead set on getting rid of Raging Bull.
Lybydose
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unvote

don't know what vote count is right now, don't want to end the day yet

don't hammer or even L-1 until we decide on targets for the night
Wojjan
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that lyncher lyncher thing makes sense. Dispose of one of them overnight and the other will be essentially a townie.
bmin11
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So the only one left for Backfire to kill is DxS
Lybydose
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no he would kill akrolsmir
bmin11
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wait, that was the wrong person. I meant by Salvage
Lybydose
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actually yeah, Salvage is the likely other mafia, so we could have him kill him instead.
Lybydose
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Ok here's my proposed plan:

Lynch Jinxyjem.
bmin watches me.
Backfire kills Salvage.
KRZY voyeurs...someone. I'm not really sure who he should target.
Suburu attempts to kill akrolsmir.
I track someone but don't reveal who.
Wojjan
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I guess Lyby's action depends on what the boost gets him. If you become a cop surplus though, be sure to check Backfire for realsies.
bmin: be on lyby. Rantai is on you, so they can't touch two of our auxes until he dies.
LS I guess stay put, if you want LS you can try to get your 9% to work on Salvage. He's an unclaimed unconfirmed townie, so if he's maf I guess good riddance.
I'll be on a mysterious random person tonight. KRZY if you happen to target my target don't out again <3 Maybe you want to be on Salvage too iunno.
Backfire, use a kill oneshot on either akro or raging bull, preferably Raging because he openly claimed lyncher already.

odds are either Rantai or KRZY or me will die tonight, but rantai is much higher on the maf's priorities. In any case though I'm just gonna clarify that even after my death my motivations still go through. Whoever I motivate tonight should still receive a boost the night after if they're still alive and I'm dead.
bmin11
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KRZY should voyuer Salvage just in case. I don't know how, but I just don't want to deal with possible WIFOMs.
Wojjan
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Lyby I'd actually much rather use the reliable oneshot kill on one of the two lynche(e/r)s because that breaks their thirdpartyhood. Makes the other a townie. Use the nineball kill on Salvage/DxS (mafia commuter? dunno) because if that one doesn't go through no worries because we still got the lynch after that. We can't lynch mokou or kaguya.
Lilac
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Votecount:

JInx (3) - Wojjan, bmin11, KRZY
Raging Bull (1) - akrolsmir

It takes 7 to lynch. Around 3 more days, that should be it.
bmin11
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Wojjan wrote:

Lyby I'd actually much rather use the reliable oneshot kill on one of the two lynche(e/r)s because that breaks their thirdpartyhood. Makes the other a townie. Use the nineball kill on Salvage/DxS (mafia commuter? dunno) because if that one doesn't go through no worries because we still got the lynch after that. We can't lynch mokou or kaguya.
Agree. Make Backfire to kill RB or Akro.
Lybydose
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Ok, akrolsmir then.
Wojjan
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let's go then, Night 3~ Vote JInxy now
Lybydose
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Ok so

Backfire kills akrolsmir.
bmin11 watches me.
Suburu attempts to kill Salvage.

If JInxyjem turns up Cop on the lynch, that means either backfire was lying and is either a godfather or just really bad at being town or KRZY is a mafia voyeur (I find the latter unlikely).

So, I guess KRZY should watch akrolsmir then?

I won't announce my tracking target until tomorrow; Wojjan also picks someone town to motivate.

vote: JInxyjem
LadySuburu
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Lybydose wrote:

Ok so

Backfire kills akrolsmir.
bmin11 watches me.
Suburu attempts to kill Salvage.

If JInxyjem turns up Cop on the lynch, that means either backfire was lying and is either a godfather or just really bad at being town or KRZY is a mafia voyeur (I find the latter unlikely).

So, I guess KRZY should watch akrolsmir then?

I won't announce my tracking target until tomorrow; Wojjan also picks someone town to motivate.

vote: JInxyjem
Yep, this all seems good.

Vote: JInxyjem

5/7
Salvage
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Vote: JInxyjem
DeathxShinigami
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Lybydose wrote:

Ok so

Backfire kills akrolsmir.
bmin11 watches me.
Suburu attempts to kill Salvage.

If JInxyjem turns up Cop on the lynch, that means either backfire was lying and is either a godfather or just really bad at being town or KRZY is a mafia voyeur (I find the latter unlikely).

So, I guess KRZY should watch akrolsmir then?

I won't announce my tracking target until tomorrow; Wojjan also picks someone town to motivate.

vote: JInxyjem
vote: JInxyjem

Ok.
Backfire
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Vote : JInxyjem

Shoot akrolsmir. Got it.
Jinxy
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Well, I am Cop. I don't know how the contradiction happened, but I am town.
Lynched in my sleep >_>
Lybydose
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It doesn't matter. Even if you turn up cop, we just lynch Backfire tomorrow. With 14 alive we can afford like a billion mislynches anyway. A cop of an unknown sanity is a lot harder to confirm than a vigilante, and the risk of having a roleblocker running around is too great.
Lybydose
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Oh another thing: if JInxy is really cop and Backfire is mafia and I die, bmin just watch Rantai every single night except tonight. You'll never die and Rantai will never die without you knowing who did it, so we just win if there is one mafia left.
Rolled
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Okay guys, formally un-afking from this game now. Just took my test worth like 40% of my grade, so now my time is free.

Catching up on this and VG~
akrolsmir
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Damn and I was going to claim cop with a result on Raging Bull.

Yeah, I'm Kaguya, Raging Bull being my lynchee. Shoot him instead please.
bmin11
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@Backfire
Shoot whoever you hate. Options are RB or Akro.
Lybydose
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Well yep if they're both going to claim lyncher, just pick one~

The plan to hit akrolsmir was just because he was less confirmed at the time.
akrolsmir
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Well, now I'd like to think I'm more confirmed, just look at my past history of voting and attacks compared to RB's.

I suspect we might actually be bulletproof as someone mentioned earlier- the role PM said something about not being able to be killed so I'm supposed to try and lynch RB. Though again, test this on him not me.
Lybydose
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Bulletproof lynchers that cause someone else to win when lynched?

How the hell are we supposed to stop them?

I guess town can win with them or something.
akrolsmir
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Lybydose wrote:

I guess town can win with them or something.
Pretty sure this was the case, I think that lynching one would just have the other exit with a win. Wanna try it :D ?
Lybydose
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Sure whatever.

Backfire shoot Raging Bull because he is significantly less useful than akrolsmir.

KRZY watch Raging Bull to confirm bulletproofness if he survives.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Raging bull's post implied that he wasn't bulletproof or anything.

Akrols could also easilly be lying and trying to avoid being shot as mafia, since he was the planned target anyway.

No way to actually tell at this point. *shrug*
Lybydose
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Raging bull's first post was "har har I'm vanilla"

then "o wait I have to take out my rival"
LadySuburu
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Lybydose wrote:

Raging bull's first post was "har har I'm vanilla"

then "o wait I have to take out my rival"
Basically revealing himself as a lyncher renders the game unwinnable, but since I said to shoot him he just claimed anyway.

Akrols is doing the same thing, only he didn't have the chance to hide it. (Though he admitted attempting the cop gambit.)

Both could likely be telling the truth, and we may be better off shooting someone like Salvage or another unconfirmed like that or something. *shrug*

Do whatever, honestly. Let's just make sure the aux actions are all aligned properly.
Lybydose
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I'm all for shooting Salvage, mostly because he's most likely to be the last mafia.
bmin11
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bmin11

I really hope this is the case for them. We can take the gambit of Townie winning with Lyncher, or just shoot one of them. Salvage being mafia or not will be deadly obvious once we lynch JInx.
Lybydose
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Hmm why's that? I think he's pretty much mafia either way. Then the 3rd mafia is either jinx or backfire.
bmin11
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bmin11
Oh right
Salvage
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Salvage
Shoot me naw plz.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
also pieguy has checked the forum several times and still no post. What's going on? phantom voters?

I came up with a better plan, so if the lynch actually hasn't happened yet, I'm going to unvote
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