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Touhou PyP Mafia [GAME OVER - Town wins!]

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Lybydose
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Ok guys let's go with plan C. What's plan C you ask? It's called "lynch chris cause he's mafia".

So wait wouldn't this plan suck if I turned out to be the mafia? No, because backfire would just shoot me if chris flips town. What if backfire is mafia though? You guys could just lynch him if I didn't die. And if he gets blocked? Voyeur/watcher combo verifies that.

Of course none of that is necessary because i'm town.

unvote; vote: chris
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
In my opinion, Lyby's claim is much stronger.

Vote: Chris
Rolled
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Rolled
zzz I'm really sorry guys. This past week has been kind of hectic, and I'm going to be pretty busy until around tuesday. If you'd like, I can find a replacement. Until then I'll try to remain as active as possible, I just don't like putting any less than 100% into these games, and it's pretty fast moving.

vote: Chris, as he's the only person from this list I didn't feel was near confirmed town.
Salvage
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Salvage
fair enough to me



vote : Chris
Chris_old
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Chris_old
Oh well.

I do just want to point out that Lybydose was the one who was so for everyone claiming to begin with, and thanks to that mafia knows exactly who they need to kill. There wont be any useless kills, because now we're all lined up already. thx

It really doesn't matter to Lybydose if they die tomorrow if they're just able to get a mislynch off today, since that would not only eliminate the tracker but the watcher would die tonight and I'm sure Backfire would get roleblocked. You finally lynch Lybydose tomorrow and you're stuck at square one because only the voyeur is left and nobody else.

gj mafia no sarcasm
Salvage
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Salvage
also i don't have any problem if Rolled doesn't post since he's atleast Pro-town , and we could use some of him later lmao


and the "new" plan seems pretty cool , let's get this day over with peeps.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Votecount:

Chris (5) - bmin11, Lybydose, LadySuburu, Rolled, Salvage
Raging Bull (1) - akrolsmir
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Backfire (1) - KRZY

8 votes are required to lynch.

Deadline is in 22:58 hours
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
unvote, vote: Chris

Now we need to figure what we do tonight. Options:

1. Somebody comes up with a seamless plan that will resolve despite mafia disruption (via roleblock/nk'ing)
2. Each aux decides his/her own actions to avoid disruption
2a. We come up with some semblance of a plan to confuse scum, but then auxes don't follow it. Unless they choose to. WIFOM GO GO
bmin11
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bmin11
Is Alice (the mafia Q brought down with him) a part of some kind of a group? If she is, we may able to guess some possible characters and their roles.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
On Touhou wiki her powers are Magic and puppetry. It could be possible role blocking (Magic). Not sure what puppetry would be.


Vote Chris
Chris_old
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Chris_old
vote: Chris
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Chris has been lynched

Death scene coming in a few minutes...
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
Actually unvote, that's closer to lynch than I'm comfortable with before we've had time to discuss any points somebody else might want to bring up.
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
****.... vote: Raging Bull
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I'm jester
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Eh? Lynches are automatically once they have majority? I thought it's till the end of the day.
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Raging Bull wrote:

Eh? Lynches are automatically once they have majority? I thought it's till the end of the day.
8 to end the day
Lilac
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Lilac
11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)

SHUT UP. Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)

SHUT UP.
(I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)
Lilac
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Lilac

Lilac wrote:

Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
Don't edit out my posts, Chris... I know you included it before.
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
Don't edit out my posts, Chris... I know you included it before.
I saw your original~
Chris_old
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Chris_old
oh well gg everybody

going to bed good night
Lilac
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Lilac
Even though I can change the rules at any time?
Two_old
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Two_old
you can only change the rules so much before people stop respecting any or all of them
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Hakurei Shrine

After a while, a few rumors spread among a lot of people stalking others during the night in order to find out who the mafia was. One of them, Inubashiri Momiji, seemed quite off.

"I'm Momiji! I'm only here to cover this incident. I would never kill anyone! Never!"

After some conversation, everyone sensed something was wrong. Eventually, she ran off, and everyone followed her. What they found, however, was not Momiji but instead a rather large catfish. At that point, they decided that the catfish had to go. Everyone chased after it and the catfish ran as fast as he could...

Until he saw the person that he feared the most.

Hong Meiling.

Knowing from the incident in Hisoutensoku, this wasn't going to go well at all. Not to mention that all spell cards are gone so all he could do was flop around and try to squish her, so he tried.

Oh, how he tried only to merely fail. It seems that Meiling has more strength than she looks.

Chris - Unnamed Giant Catfish (Mafia 2-shot Strongman) - Lynched D2.

It is now Night 2. Please send all night actions to either me or Lilac within 22 hours (sorry, it's 22 and not 24 this time).

P.S. I accept talking before I post the lynch scene.

EDIT: Just saw akrolsmir's post. Sorry, you can't unvote after I post that someone has been lynched >.<
akrolsmir
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pieguy1372 wrote:

EDIT: Just saw akrolsmir's post. Sorry, you can't unvote after I post that someone has been lynched >.<
Yeah I know. I had been ninja'd by you and chris, so whatever. For the record I'm still voting for Raging Bull though :D .
pieguyn
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pieguyn
When everyone woke, they all knew what to expect: one or more people missing. Everyone left gathered at the Hakurei Shrine in order to determine who died. They started with a head count: "1, 2, ...

12, 13"

...

Everyone suddenly stared at each other. Apparently, no one died last night.

It is now Day 3. Deadline is Saturday, 05:48 GMT.
Last edited by pieguyn , edited 1 time in total.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Ok then.

Pretty much confirmed town:

Lybydose
LadySuburu
Rolled
Wojjan
bmin11
KRZY

Maybe town:

Backfire

Unknown:

Rantai
JInxyjem
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage

Also, I highly doubt DxS is mafia.

bmin and KRZY, who did you guys watch last night?
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
Obligatory call for claimed auxes to reveal results... Ninja'd by Lybydose.

vote: Raging Bull Unless one of our auxes comes up with a much better idea.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
I assume Backfire didn't attack so maybe protected. Probably have to wait till he confirms.
bmin11
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I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2
Raging Bull
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I guess we have to wait for KRZY for the list of actions. Although I'm curious what Jinyx was doing since there was no deaths.
Lybydose
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Also, let me explain why I believe DxS to be non-mafia.

At the end of Day 1, right near the end, Chris (confirmed mafia) moved his vote onto Kiddo-kun/DxS and convinced Two to do the same. This would have been an incredibly bold move on his part if Kiddo/DxS were mafia, as he was opening him up for a last second lynch. He knew that Q was town and most likely did NOT know that animask/Q were lovers, as that's the norm for the lover role - no one knows except those two players, and they can't claim.

Even if he did know that animask was tied to Q, it would have made sense for him to push for a DxS lynch over Q if DxS were town.
bmin11
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I also want Backfire to tell us what he did for N2
Lybydose
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yep, Backfire's action is probably the most important piece of the puzzle.
DeathxShinigami
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I'll tell you that I absolutly did nothing because GOD DAMN KIDDO-KUN already used my power :x

Oh and you're right Lybydose.
Lybydose
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DeathxShinigami wrote:

I'll tell you that I absolutly did nothing because GOD DAMN KIDDO-KUN already used my power :x

Oh and you're right Lybydose.
Ok since your power has already been used, mind telling us what it was?
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Hider ability, one time use protects me from everything at night.
bmin11
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Another Hider or Commuter?? Anyway, a name would give us some good infos as well
DeathxShinigami
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Role claim: Yakumo Yukari

@bmin It's a commuter ability.
Lybydose
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I guess that kind of makes sense.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually an independent survivor, but even if he is, that's no threat to the town.
KRZY
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Wojjan wrote:

I like my plan too :)
Also the grandest thing about me motivating you and having backfire still around means that when we do get to the point of a mafia hidden in a bunch of unconfirmed your killing shot plus his killing shot means that we can just weed them all out at once when we get there.

I'm totes fine with LS' rendition of my plan but have the voyeur on the tracker as well in case we lynch the mafia. If the voyeur is also on the tracker we can confirm Backfire did indeed protect the tracker, thus clearing him.

According to this plan, I voyeured Lybydose, thinking Backfire would protect the tracker according to one of Lyby's plans. Guess what, nothing happened to Lybydose!

Well, judging from bmin's information, it looks like Backfire didn't protect the watcher either. I would like an explanation to this.



EDIT: Sorry misread, bmin actually watched Backfire. My bad.

EDIT 2: Wojjan's plan, not Lyby's plan. 3am here :S
Lybydose
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Oh yeah, I tracked JInxyjem. Turns out he targeted Backfire, go figure.

I'm guessing Backfire protected someone last night and that person was also targeted for a night kill, hence why no one died.
Rantai
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If LS' plan was followed through, I'm betting Backfire protected Lybydose.

But it's all in the air until he confirms it.
Jinxy
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Roleclaim: Shikieiki Yamaxanadu (Cop)
Backfire is Town.
I checked bmin N1 because of Rolled's suspicion on him, and got Town too.
Rantai
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I thought so. I had it in the back of my mind someone would choose her, coupled with the fact that you targeted someone without any noticeable effect, not much thinking required there.

So Backfire and JInxyjem are basically cleared as far as I am concerned.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh going by that there is just myself, akrolsmir, Salvage and Raging Bull left (and DxS but less so). I know what I am, leaving those three for me.

Vote: Salvage

I was already highly suspicious of Chris when we had our little argument but didn't say anything about it namely because of your sudden change of heart (Here then suddenly This) when Chris put it out there that he did not want the mafia to be revealed (ie watcher claiming). On top of original suspicions.

If I'm wrong I'll go swallow a bullet or something.
Rantai
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Triple post

Tentative Unvote - new and shocking lampshading from another thread. I'll think about this a bit more.

I know, editing is bad - that's why I have striked everything for consistency purposes.

Anyway: Vote: Salvage - crisis averted.
Backfire
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Backfire
Yes, I did protect Lybydose last night. ^^;
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Backfire wrote:

Yes, I did protect Lybydose last night. ^^;

KRZY wrote:

According to this plan, I voyeured Lybydose, thinking Backfire would protect the tracker according to one of Lyby's plans. Guess what, nothing happened to Lybydose!
-------------------------------------


bmin11 wrote:

I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2

Lybydose wrote:

Oh yeah, I tracked JInxyjem. Turns out he targeted Backfire, go figure.
--------------------------------------

Thanks guys, now we've found the group where the next mafia hides. In order of my most favored to be mafia to least:


Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect), nobody died last night. Potentially faked a doctor success by not having a kill sent in.

KRZY: Claim Voyeur, Mafia Voyeur is known as a possibility. However saying what he said at this point in the game as mafia would be somewhat suicidal since we've already lynched 2 mafia.

JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. Targeted Backfire last night, which is the only real reason he's even on this list. (Roleblocker possibility, but I don't see it likely.)


Cool, everyone else should comment now.
LadySuburu
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After thinking it over, let's go over this information more carefully.

Assuming only one mafia in this group....

Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect) [Targeted Lyby with protect?]

KRZY: Claim Voyeur (Targeted Lyby with Voyeur and says nothing happened to lyby?)

JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. (Targeted Backfire last night, Innocent.)

If:

Backfire is mafia: Impossible unless more than one in this group is mafia. JInxy returned a town result on backfire and bmin. Only possible sanities are Naive and Sane.

KRZY is mafia: Easilly possible as a Mafia Voyeur. His claim that nothing happened to Lyby would make little sense to do as mafia, but it is possible.

JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.


I change my opinion and now believe KRZY the most likely to be mafia. It is possible but unlikely that we have two mafia in this group of 3.
Rantai
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Oh man.

I was so sure the cop claim was legit.

Though if he's lying that means Backfire and JInxyjem are our last 2 mafia.

Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.

Or KRZY lied about Backfire not targeting Lybydose.

I don't know to be honest. If I had to take a stab I'd say the second one, just because I don't believe the role fits with the character very well.
Rantai
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Rantai
God damn ninja by 7 seconds.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Rantai wrote:

Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.
Thanks for reminding me about Godfather, that's a good point and makes KRZY and backfire tied again in my eyes.
Rantai
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LadySuburu wrote:

JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.
This could be a suicidal move but w/e.

It's still very possible that he is a roleblocker.
Raging Bull
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Wouldn't GF role give a town result?
Rantai
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Rantai
Yes, exactly Raging Bull.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Okay maybe I should refresh forum after reading.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
All I can think of it's either backfire or KRZY. I don't think they're both mafia since they both have different results. I'm more leaning against backfire since KRZY helped us on D2.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I'm not outing who I motivated to lower the chances of them being killed tonight. Have fun mafia!

So the results from backfire and KRZY don't add up and Backfire has done nothing to explain himself.

Vote: Backfire until I get a decent explanation other than WIFOM.
bmin11
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bmin11
I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this. I still think we have to take care with people who haven't role claimed.

Claimed:
Backfire (2 shot vig + 1 shot doc)
Lydy (Tracker)
bmin11 (Watcher)
KRZY (Voyeur)
LS (Mason + 9% chance vig)
Rolled (Mason)
Wojjan (Motivator)
DxS (1-shot commuter)
JInxyjem (Cop)

Not claimed:
Rantai
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

bmin11 wrote:

I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this.
It's not really easy for two towns to have conflicting results like this.

KRZY: "Nothing happened to Lybydose." (Which means no protection.)

Backfire: "I protected Lybydose." (Which means one of the two is lying, or...)

JInxyjem targeted Backfire (Which means he may have roleblocked backfire.)

I'd like to scumhunt there since at least one of the three is confirmed scum. We just don't know which one yet.
Raging Bull
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Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
bmin11
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I would still like everyone to role claim regardless. Anyway, heading to my class
Salvage
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Salvage
how's that? .. he could be lying about his role.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.
Wojjan
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LadySuburu wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.
Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?
Wojjan
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that's Eirin Yagokoro, not an earring, by the way. typoes
Rantai
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Well any misinformation is bad information right?

Roleclaim: Konpaku Youmu - Seraph Knight

I'm almost certain I blocked the mafia NK last night, that being bmin. Seeing as he was still 'vulnerable' in the 'plan' and that Chris was preaching his death I'm pretty sure they followed through.

Now I know roleclaiming as a doctor role isn't the best but it's annoying me to see that wrong assumption and well I doubt they are going to attack bmin again anyway.
LadySuburu
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Wojjan wrote:

Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?
Maybe, which would just add to the confusion.

@Rantai Which night did you use your ability?
Rantai
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Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Rantai
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Seeing as that is out in the open, this is also part of the reason why I wanted the watcher to claim after everyone started stating that the watcher would be a guaranteed NK if he did claim.
Raging Bull
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Well I don't want to be lynched when I'm asleep.


Roleclaim: Fujiwara no Mokou

I should be the equivalent to a townie since I have no ability listed.
Rantai
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Rantai
Apart from being immortal and all.

Survivor?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.

I think by now this game is sort of won. Currently I feel the most for a JInxyjem lynch. Odds are he roleblocked Backfire just to get us to lynch him because he didn't show up in the report, and targeted the watcher because they'd have to kill him first to get through to the tracker. Voyeur on his own is worth a lot less.

Vote: Jinx
Raging Bull
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Lol I really thought I would be a survivor when I picked Mokou but sadly nope.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Rantai wrote:

Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Alright, I mostly believe you. (95%)

Well, now the three are even again.

Backfire, shoot Raging Bull tonight. Being Mokou he should survive based on what he's claimed.

I'm good with a JInxy lynch.
Raging Bull
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What? But I'm not immortal?
Raging Bull
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Rantai is the one that said I'm immortal.
Wojjan
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yeah he didn't claim any powers, including Bulletproofness

which is odd, in a game like this. Everyone so far has had at least a little modifier like lover or mason to it.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Raging Bull wrote:

What? But I'm not immortal?
It's either secretly a part of your role, or you're lying. Either way is fine with me.


I SEVERELY doubt the existance of any plain vanilla roles in this game.

Hey look, Ninja'd by wojjan.
Rantai
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Wojjan wrote:

yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.
If bmin dies I'll jump off a cliff.

Inb4 a third strongman.
Raging Bull
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Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
Rantai
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Oh a lyncher. Looks like your game is over. But now we know there is a Kaguya around.
Raging Bull
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Vote: Kaguya

:(
LadySuburu
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Raging Bull wrote:

Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
A lyncher, perfect.

Yo Kaguya, claim.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Kaguya should claim since she's essentially conffirmed town. go go go
bmin11
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Vote: JInx


By the way, is it possible for the lyncher to have a mafia member as a target?
Rantai
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Yeah it is.

I'll assume the Kaguya is a mafia if I don't see a roleclaim in 24 hours.
Lybydose
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Ok I lied, I didn't actually watch JInxyjem, I watched Rantai. He targeted bmin.

Reason for this was that I wasn't sure if Rantai was mafia, so I was trying to bait him into thinking I had wasted my Tracker ability and that he could claim on his own terms rather than after I revealed results "oh yeah I targeted him and I'm a protection role". It matches up though, so he's either telling the truth or really clever.

So I'm willing to believe that Rantai's protection went through on bmin and he was the kill target, and either Backfire or JInxyjem are mafia.

Right now I'm leaning toward JInxyjem being a roleblocker and backfire's ability failing, thus not appearing on KRZY's list.
Rantai
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Lynch all liars <3

Alright then, Unvote wait for the next day Salvage :3

However I am not so sure about JInxyjem, I'm going to sleep on this.
Lybydose
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Also, if JInxyjem really is a Cop (and not a roleblocker), that means one of two things:

1. JInxyjem is a Random Cop or Naive Cop and Backfire is mafia. Naive Cop does not fit Shiki at all though.
2. JInxyjem is a Sane Cop and KRZY is mafia.

JInxyjem being a roleblocker makes perfect sense though. Night 1 he likely would have targeted KRZY, the only known aux role at the time. Unfortunately for him, it got swapped on to Rolled by Two's bus drive, and didn't do anything.

Night 2 his plan was to block the "known doctor" and then kill a known aux such as bmin.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Oh yeah there's also the possibility that JInx is Random/Naive and then both KRZY and Backfire are mafia, but I doubt that.
Lybydose
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oh damnit I forgot all about Godfathers.

So JInx could be sane, KRZY town, and Backfire a godfather.
KRZY
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KRZY
Hey guess what

I got a PM from a mod 3 hrs ago, saying Lyby was actually motivated. Apparently someone sent in their night PM late.

Thought I had to drop this off.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yeeeeeeah go KRZY. Didn't I say I wasn't gonna out my motivation?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
also yeah I confirm being a slacking loser
bmin11
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bmin11
Motivated tracker o_o I wonder what that would do. Any noticable difference, Lyby?

@KRZY
That action was done during N2, right? Or are you also able to receive actions done during day time, if it's done on the person you voyeured last night?
Lybydose
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Actually that's perfect if Wojjan confirms I was actually the motivation target. Mafia will want to kill me now, so here's what we do:

Lynch JInxyjem due to the possibility of him being a roleblocker. Choose a target for Backfire. If backfire is really mafia, they waste their nightkill on whatever target we have chosen or risk not having Backfire's target die and him outted as mafia. If he's non-mafia, his kill goes through and then we see two kills appear the next day. That is, unless the mafia decides to not send in a kill, which is again beneficial to us because the mafia isn't killing anyone.
Lybydose
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@bmin: Wojjan said it took until the next night to have any effect.
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