Eh? Lynches are automatically once they have majority? I thought it's till the end of the day.
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8 to end the dayRaging Bull wrote:
Eh? Lynches are automatically once they have majority? I thought it's till the end of the day.
11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)
SHUT UP. Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
SHUT UP. Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
(I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)Lilac wrote:
11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)
SHUT UP.
Don't edit out my posts, Chris... I know you included it before.Lilac wrote:
Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
I saw your original~Lilac wrote:
Don't edit out my posts, Chris... I know you included it before.Lilac wrote:
Even though it seems I accept talking beforehand... Ah well. Discussing with pieguy now.
Even though I can change the rules at any time?
you can only change the rules so much before people stop respecting any or all of them
Topic Starter
Hakurei Shrine
After a while, a few rumors spread among a lot of people stalking others during the night in order to find out who the mafia was. One of them, Inubashiri Momiji, seemed quite off.
"I'm Momiji! I'm only here to cover this incident. I would never kill anyone! Never!"
After some conversation, everyone sensed something was wrong. Eventually, she ran off, and everyone followed her. What they found, however, was not Momiji but instead a rather large catfish. At that point, they decided that the catfish had to go. Everyone chased after it and the catfish ran as fast as he could...
Until he saw the person that he feared the most.
Hong Meiling.
Knowing from the incident in Hisoutensoku, this wasn't going to go well at all. Not to mention that all spell cards are gone so all he could do was flop around and try to squish her, so he tried.
Oh, how he tried only to merely fail. It seems that Meiling has more strength than she looks.
Chris - Unnamed Giant Catfish (Mafia 2-shot Strongman) - Lynched D2.
It is now Night 2. Please send all night actions to either me or Lilac within 22 hours (sorry, it's 22 and not 24 this time).
P.S. I accept talking before I post the lynch scene.
EDIT: Just saw akrolsmir's post. Sorry, you can't unvote after I post that someone has been lynched >.<
After a while, a few rumors spread among a lot of people stalking others during the night in order to find out who the mafia was. One of them, Inubashiri Momiji, seemed quite off.
"I'm Momiji! I'm only here to cover this incident. I would never kill anyone! Never!"
After some conversation, everyone sensed something was wrong. Eventually, she ran off, and everyone followed her. What they found, however, was not Momiji but instead a rather large catfish. At that point, they decided that the catfish had to go. Everyone chased after it and the catfish ran as fast as he could...
Until he saw the person that he feared the most.
Hong Meiling.
Knowing from the incident in Hisoutensoku, this wasn't going to go well at all. Not to mention that all spell cards are gone so all he could do was flop around and try to squish her, so he tried.
Oh, how he tried only to merely fail. It seems that Meiling has more strength than she looks.
Chris - Unnamed Giant Catfish (Mafia 2-shot Strongman) - Lynched D2.
It is now Night 2. Please send all night actions to either me or Lilac within 22 hours (sorry, it's 22 and not 24 this time).
P.S. I accept talking before I post the lynch scene.
EDIT: Just saw akrolsmir's post. Sorry, you can't unvote after I post that someone has been lynched >.<
Yeah I know. I had been ninja'd by you and chris, so whatever. For the record I'm still voting for Raging Bull thoughpieguy1372 wrote:
EDIT: Just saw akrolsmir's post. Sorry, you can't unvote after I post that someone has been lynched >.<
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Topic Starter
When everyone woke, they all knew what to expect: one or more people missing. Everyone left gathered at the Hakurei Shrine in order to determine who died. They started with a head count: "1, 2, ...
12, 13"
...
Everyone suddenly stared at each other. Apparently, no one died last night.
It is now Day 3. Deadline is Saturday, 05:48 GMT.
12, 13"
...
Everyone suddenly stared at each other. Apparently, no one died last night.
It is now Day 3. Deadline is Saturday, 05:48 GMT.
Ok then.
Pretty much confirmed town:
Lybydose
LadySuburu
Rolled
Wojjan
bmin11
KRZY
Maybe town:
Backfire
Unknown:
Rantai
JInxyjem
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
Also, I highly doubt DxS is mafia.
bmin and KRZY, who did you guys watch last night?
Pretty much confirmed town:
Lybydose
LadySuburu
Rolled
Wojjan
bmin11
KRZY
Maybe town:
Backfire
Unknown:
Rantai
JInxyjem
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
Also, I highly doubt DxS is mafia.
bmin and KRZY, who did you guys watch last night?
Obligatory call for claimed auxes to reveal results... Ninja'd by Lybydose.
vote: Raging Bull Unless one of our auxes comes up with a much better idea.
vote: Raging Bull Unless one of our auxes comes up with a much better idea.
I assume Backfire didn't attack so maybe protected. Probably have to wait till he confirms.
I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2
I guess we have to wait for KRZY for the list of actions. Although I'm curious what Jinyx was doing since there was no deaths.
Also, let me explain why I believe DxS to be non-mafia.
At the end of Day 1, right near the end, Chris (confirmed mafia) moved his vote onto Kiddo-kun/DxS and convinced Two to do the same. This would have been an incredibly bold move on his part if Kiddo/DxS were mafia, as he was opening him up for a last second lynch. He knew that Q was town and most likely did NOT know that animask/Q were lovers, as that's the norm for the lover role - no one knows except those two players, and they can't claim.
Even if he did know that animask was tied to Q, it would have made sense for him to push for a DxS lynch over Q if DxS were town.
At the end of Day 1, right near the end, Chris (confirmed mafia) moved his vote onto Kiddo-kun/DxS and convinced Two to do the same. This would have been an incredibly bold move on his part if Kiddo/DxS were mafia, as he was opening him up for a last second lynch. He knew that Q was town and most likely did NOT know that animask/Q were lovers, as that's the norm for the lover role - no one knows except those two players, and they can't claim.
Even if he did know that animask was tied to Q, it would have made sense for him to push for a DxS lynch over Q if DxS were town.
I also want Backfire to tell us what he did for N2
yep, Backfire's action is probably the most important piece of the puzzle.
I'll tell you that I absolutly did nothing because GOD DAMN KIDDO-KUN already used my power 
Oh and you're right Lybydose.
Oh and you're right Lybydose.
Ok since your power has already been used, mind telling us what it was?DeathxShinigami wrote:
I'll tell you that I absolutly did nothing because GOD DAMN KIDDO-KUN already used my power
Oh and you're right Lybydose.
Hider ability, one time use protects me from everything at night.
Another Hider or Commuter?? Anyway, a name would give us some good infos as well
Role claim: Yakumo Yukari
@bmin It's a commuter ability.
@bmin It's a commuter ability.
I guess that kind of makes sense.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually an independent survivor, but even if he is, that's no threat to the town.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually an independent survivor, but even if he is, that's no threat to the town.
Wojjan wrote:
I like my plan too
Also the grandest thing about me motivating you and having backfire still around means that when we do get to the point of a mafia hidden in a bunch of unconfirmed your killing shot plus his killing shot means that we can just weed them all out at once when we get there.
I'm totes fine with LS' rendition of my plan but have the voyeur on the tracker as well in case we lynch the mafia. If the voyeur is also on the tracker we can confirm Backfire did indeed protect the tracker, thus clearing him.
According to this plan, I voyeured Lybydose, thinking Backfire would protect the tracker according to one of Lyby's plans. Guess what, nothing happened to Lybydose!
Well, judging from bmin's information, it looks like Backfire didn't protect the watcher either. I would like an explanation to this.
EDIT: Sorry misread, bmin actually watched Backfire. My bad.
EDIT 2: Wojjan's plan, not Lyby's plan. 3am here :S
Oh yeah, I tracked JInxyjem. Turns out he targeted Backfire, go figure.
I'm guessing Backfire protected someone last night and that person was also targeted for a night kill, hence why no one died.
I'm guessing Backfire protected someone last night and that person was also targeted for a night kill, hence why no one died.
If LS' plan was followed through, I'm betting Backfire protected Lybydose.
But it's all in the air until he confirms it.
But it's all in the air until he confirms it.
Roleclaim: Shikieiki Yamaxanadu (Cop)
Backfire is Town.
I checked bmin N1 because of Rolled's suspicion on him, and got Town too.
Backfire is Town.
I checked bmin N1 because of Rolled's suspicion on him, and got Town too.
I thought so. I had it in the back of my mind someone would choose her, coupled with the fact that you targeted someone without any noticeable effect, not much thinking required there.
So Backfire and JInxyjem are basically cleared as far as I am concerned.
So Backfire and JInxyjem are basically cleared as far as I am concerned.
Oh going by that there is just myself, akrolsmir, Salvage and Raging Bull left (and DxS but less so). I know what I am, leaving those three for me.
Vote: Salvage
I was already highly suspicious of Chris when we had our little argument but didn't say anything about it namely because of your sudden change of heart (Here then suddenly This) when Chris put it out there that he did not want the mafia to be revealed (ie watcher claiming). On top of original suspicions.
If I'm wrong I'll go swallow a bullet or something.
Vote: Salvage
I was already highly suspicious of Chris when we had our little argument but didn't say anything about it namely because of your sudden change of heart (Here then suddenly This) when Chris put it out there that he did not want the mafia to be revealed (ie watcher claiming). On top of original suspicions.
If I'm wrong I'll go swallow a bullet or something.
Tentative Unvote - new and shocking lampshading from another thread. I'll think about this a bit more.
I know, editing is bad - that's why I have striked everything for consistency purposes.
Anyway: Vote: Salvage - crisis averted.
Yes, I did protect Lybydose last night. ^^;
Backfire wrote:
Yes, I did protect Lybydose last night. ^^;
-------------------------------------KRZY wrote:
According to this plan, I voyeured Lybydose, thinking Backfire would protect the tracker according to one of Lyby's plans. Guess what, nothing happened to Lybydose!
bmin11 wrote:
I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2
--------------------------------------Lybydose wrote:
Oh yeah, I tracked JInxyjem. Turns out he targeted Backfire, go figure.
Thanks guys, now we've found the group where the next mafia hides. In order of my most favored to be mafia to least:
Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect), nobody died last night. Potentially faked a doctor success by not having a kill sent in.
KRZY: Claim Voyeur, Mafia Voyeur is known as a possibility. However saying what he said at this point in the game as mafia would be somewhat suicidal since we've already lynched 2 mafia.
JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. Targeted Backfire last night, which is the only real reason he's even on this list. (Roleblocker possibility, but I don't see it likely.)
Cool, everyone else should comment now.
After thinking it over, let's go over this information more carefully.
Assuming only one mafia in this group....
Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect) [Targeted Lyby with protect?]
KRZY: Claim Voyeur (Targeted Lyby with Voyeur and says nothing happened to lyby?)
JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. (Targeted Backfire last night, Innocent.)
If:
Backfire is mafia: Impossible unless more than one in this group is mafia. JInxy returned a town result on backfire and bmin. Only possible sanities are Naive and Sane.
KRZY is mafia: Easilly possible as a Mafia Voyeur. His claim that nothing happened to Lyby would make little sense to do as mafia, but it is possible.
JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.
I change my opinion and now believe KRZY the most likely to be mafia. It is possible but unlikely that we have two mafia in this group of 3.
Assuming only one mafia in this group....
Backfire: Unvalidated claim (2-shot kill + 1-shot protect) [Targeted Lyby with protect?]
KRZY: Claim Voyeur (Targeted Lyby with Voyeur and says nothing happened to lyby?)
JInxyjem: Claimed Cop. (Targeted Backfire last night, Innocent.)
If:
Backfire is mafia: Impossible unless more than one in this group is mafia. JInxy returned a town result on backfire and bmin. Only possible sanities are Naive and Sane.
KRZY is mafia: Easilly possible as a Mafia Voyeur. His claim that nothing happened to Lyby would make little sense to do as mafia, but it is possible.
JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.
I change my opinion and now believe KRZY the most likely to be mafia. It is possible but unlikely that we have two mafia in this group of 3.
Oh man.
I was so sure the cop claim was legit.
Though if he's lying that means Backfire and JInxyjem are our last 2 mafia.
Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.
Or KRZY lied about Backfire not targeting Lybydose.
I don't know to be honest. If I had to take a stab I'd say the second one, just because I don't believe the role fits with the character very well.
I was so sure the cop claim was legit.
Though if he's lying that means Backfire and JInxyjem are our last 2 mafia.
Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.
Or KRZY lied about Backfire not targeting Lybydose.
I don't know to be honest. If I had to take a stab I'd say the second one, just because I don't believe the role fits with the character very well.
God damn ninja by 7 seconds.
Thanks for reminding me about Godfather, that's a good point and makes KRZY and backfire tied again in my eyes.Rantai wrote:
Or Backfire is lying and has some sort of Godfather role.
This could be a suicidal move but w/e.LadySuburu wrote:
JInxyjem is mafia: Possible, but that would mean JInxy had a mafia ability that he targeted Backfire with. What would that be? A roleblock wouldn't make sense as nobody died, unless they purposefully sent in a no-kill.
It's still very possible that he is a roleblocker.
Wouldn't GF role give a town result?
Yes, exactly Raging Bull.
Okay maybe I should refresh forum after reading.
All I can think of it's either backfire or KRZY. I don't think they're both mafia since they both have different results. I'm more leaning against backfire since KRZY helped us on D2.
I'm not outing who I motivated to lower the chances of them being killed tonight. Have fun mafia!
So the results from backfire and KRZY don't add up and Backfire has done nothing to explain himself.
Vote: Backfire until I get a decent explanation other than WIFOM.
So the results from backfire and KRZY don't add up and Backfire has done nothing to explain himself.
Vote: Backfire until I get a decent explanation other than WIFOM.
I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this. I still think we have to take care with people who haven't role claimed.
Claimed:
Backfire (2 shot vig + 1 shot doc)
Lydy (Tracker)
bmin11 (Watcher)
KRZY (Voyeur)
LS (Mason + 9% chance vig)
Rolled (Mason)
Wojjan (Motivator)
DxS (1-shot commuter)
JInxyjem (Cop)
Not claimed:
Rantai
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
Claimed:
Backfire (2 shot vig + 1 shot doc)
Lydy (Tracker)
bmin11 (Watcher)
KRZY (Voyeur)
LS (Mason + 9% chance vig)
Rolled (Mason)
Wojjan (Motivator)
DxS (1-shot commuter)
JInxyjem (Cop)
Not claimed:
Rantai
akrolsmir
Raging Bull
Salvage
It's not really easy for two towns to have conflicting results like this.bmin11 wrote:
I don't want to start scumhunting among aux roles we have. As me and akro said, it's really easy to have a different night result than what we expected to for a PyP game like this.
KRZY: "Nothing happened to Lybydose." (Which means no protection.)
Backfire: "I protected Lybydose." (Which means one of the two is lying, or...)
JInxyjem targeted Backfire (Which means he may have roleblocked backfire.)
I'd like to scumhunt there since at least one of the three is confirmed scum. We just don't know which one yet.
Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
I would still like everyone to role claim regardless. Anyway, heading to my class
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.Raging Bull wrote:
Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?LadySuburu wrote:
The only problem with that, which I stated before, is that would mean mafia chose not to kill anyone last night, which doesn't make much sense.Raging Bull wrote:
Oh wow. I didn't think of Jinyx as roleblocker since it's possible to just say Backfire is town since we already believe he is one.
that's Eirin Yagokoro, not an earring, by the way. typoes
Well any misinformation is bad information right?
Roleclaim: Konpaku Youmu - Seraph Knight
I'm almost certain I blocked the mafia NK last night, that being bmin. Seeing as he was still 'vulnerable' in the 'plan' and that Chris was preaching his death I'm pretty sure they followed through.
Now I know roleclaiming as a doctor role isn't the best but it's annoying me to see that wrong assumption and well I doubt they are going to attack bmin again anyway.
Roleclaim: Konpaku Youmu - Seraph Knight
I'm almost certain I blocked the mafia NK last night, that being bmin. Seeing as he was still 'vulnerable' in the 'plan' and that Chris was preaching his death I'm pretty sure they followed through.
Now I know roleclaiming as a doctor role isn't the best but it's annoying me to see that wrong assumption and well I doubt they are going to attack bmin again anyway.
Maybe, which would just add to the confusion.Wojjan wrote:
Maybe there's a friendly eiring around who protected the actual target?
@Rantai Which night did you use your ability?
Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Seeing as that is out in the open, this is also part of the reason why I wanted the watcher to claim after everyone started stating that the watcher would be a guaranteed NK if he did claim.
Well I don't want to be lynched when I'm asleep.
Roleclaim: Fujiwara no Mokou
I should be the equivalent to a townie since I have no ability listed.
Roleclaim: Fujiwara no Mokou
I should be the equivalent to a townie since I have no ability listed.
Apart from being immortal and all.
Survivor?
Survivor?
yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.
I think by now this game is sort of won. Currently I feel the most for a JInxyjem lynch. Odds are he roleblocked Backfire just to get us to lynch him because he didn't show up in the report, and targeted the watcher because they'd have to kill him first to get through to the tracker. Voyeur on his own is worth a lot less.
Vote: Jinx
I think by now this game is sort of won. Currently I feel the most for a JInxyjem lynch. Odds are he roleblocked Backfire just to get us to lynch him because he didn't show up in the report, and targeted the watcher because they'd have to kill him first to get through to the tracker. Voyeur on his own is worth a lot less.
Vote: Jinx
Lol I really thought I would be a survivor when I picked Mokou but sadly nope.
Alright, I mostly believe you. (95%)Rantai wrote:
Night 2. I did not use any ability night 1.
Well, now the three are even again.
Backfire, shoot Raging Bull tonight. Being Mokou he should survive based on what he's claimed.
I'm good with a JInxy lynch.
What? But I'm not immortal?
Rantai is the one that said I'm immortal.
yeah he didn't claim any powers, including Bulletproofness
which is odd, in a game like this. Everyone so far has had at least a little modifier like lover or mason to it.
which is odd, in a game like this. Everyone so far has had at least a little modifier like lover or mason to it.
It's either secretly a part of your role, or you're lying. Either way is fine with me.Raging Bull wrote:
What? But I'm not immortal?
I SEVERELY doubt the existance of any plain vanilla roles in this game.
Hey look, Ninja'd by wojjan.
If bmin dies I'll jump off a cliff.Wojjan wrote:
yes awesome a seraph knight this will buy us EVEN MORE time. Rantai if at any point bmin dies we kill you so don't kill him okay.
Inb4 a third strongman.
Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
Oh a lyncher. Looks like your game is over. But now we know there is a Kaguya around.
A lyncher, perfect.Raging Bull wrote:
Well in that case I wanted to be quiet and let my arch enemy roleclaim himself. Anyways I win if said arch enemy is lynched. If he is NK'd then I'm just a vanilla role.
Yo Kaguya, claim.
Kaguya should claim since she's essentially conffirmed town. go go go
Vote: JInx
By the way, is it possible for the lyncher to have a mafia member as a target?
By the way, is it possible for the lyncher to have a mafia member as a target?
Yeah it is.
I'll assume the Kaguya is a mafia if I don't see a roleclaim in 24 hours.
I'll assume the Kaguya is a mafia if I don't see a roleclaim in 24 hours.
Ok I lied, I didn't actually watch JInxyjem, I watched Rantai. He targeted bmin.
Reason for this was that I wasn't sure if Rantai was mafia, so I was trying to bait him into thinking I had wasted my Tracker ability and that he could claim on his own terms rather than after I revealed results "oh yeah I targeted him and I'm a protection role". It matches up though, so he's either telling the truth or really clever.
So I'm willing to believe that Rantai's protection went through on bmin and he was the kill target, and either Backfire or JInxyjem are mafia.
Right now I'm leaning toward JInxyjem being a roleblocker and backfire's ability failing, thus not appearing on KRZY's list.
Reason for this was that I wasn't sure if Rantai was mafia, so I was trying to bait him into thinking I had wasted my Tracker ability and that he could claim on his own terms rather than after I revealed results "oh yeah I targeted him and I'm a protection role". It matches up though, so he's either telling the truth or really clever.
So I'm willing to believe that Rantai's protection went through on bmin and he was the kill target, and either Backfire or JInxyjem are mafia.
Right now I'm leaning toward JInxyjem being a roleblocker and backfire's ability failing, thus not appearing on KRZY's list.
Alright then, Unvote wait for the next day Salvage :3
However I am not so sure about JInxyjem, I'm going to sleep on this.
Also, if JInxyjem really is a Cop (and not a roleblocker), that means one of two things:
1. JInxyjem is a Random Cop or Naive Cop and Backfire is mafia. Naive Cop does not fit Shiki at all though.
2. JInxyjem is a Sane Cop and KRZY is mafia.
JInxyjem being a roleblocker makes perfect sense though. Night 1 he likely would have targeted KRZY, the only known aux role at the time. Unfortunately for him, it got swapped on to Rolled by Two's bus drive, and didn't do anything.
Night 2 his plan was to block the "known doctor" and then kill a known aux such as bmin.
1. JInxyjem is a Random Cop or Naive Cop and Backfire is mafia. Naive Cop does not fit Shiki at all though.
2. JInxyjem is a Sane Cop and KRZY is mafia.
JInxyjem being a roleblocker makes perfect sense though. Night 1 he likely would have targeted KRZY, the only known aux role at the time. Unfortunately for him, it got swapped on to Rolled by Two's bus drive, and didn't do anything.
Night 2 his plan was to block the "known doctor" and then kill a known aux such as bmin.
Oh yeah there's also the possibility that JInx is Random/Naive and then both KRZY and Backfire are mafia, but I doubt that.
oh damnit I forgot all about Godfathers.
So JInx could be sane, KRZY town, and Backfire a godfather.
So JInx could be sane, KRZY town, and Backfire a godfather.
Hey guess what
I got a PM from a mod 3 hrs ago, saying Lyby was actually motivated. Apparently someone sent in their night PM late.
Thought I had to drop this off.
I got a PM from a mod 3 hrs ago, saying Lyby was actually motivated. Apparently someone sent in their night PM late.
Thought I had to drop this off.
yeeeeeeah go KRZY. Didn't I say I wasn't gonna out my motivation?
Motivated tracker o_o I wonder what that would do. Any noticable difference, Lyby?
@KRZY
That action was done during N2, right? Or are you also able to receive actions done during day time, if it's done on the person you voyeured last night?
@KRZY
That action was done during N2, right? Or are you also able to receive actions done during day time, if it's done on the person you voyeured last night?
Actually that's perfect if Wojjan confirms I was actually the motivation target. Mafia will want to kill me now, so here's what we do:
Lynch JInxyjem due to the possibility of him being a roleblocker. Choose a target for Backfire. If backfire is really mafia, they waste their nightkill on whatever target we have chosen or risk not having Backfire's target die and him outted as mafia. If he's non-mafia, his kill goes through and then we see two kills appear the next day. That is, unless the mafia decides to not send in a kill, which is again beneficial to us because the mafia isn't killing anyone.
Lynch JInxyjem due to the possibility of him being a roleblocker. Choose a target for Backfire. If backfire is really mafia, they waste their nightkill on whatever target we have chosen or risk not having Backfire's target die and him outted as mafia. If he's non-mafia, his kill goes through and then we see two kills appear the next day. That is, unless the mafia decides to not send in a kill, which is again beneficial to us because the mafia isn't killing anyone.
@bmin: Wojjan said it took until the next night to have any effect.
Mafia won't be able to frame Backfire by killing the same target, because KRZY or I will be able to tell if the kill was overlapped or not
also vote: JInxyjem
Okay what started as my insight has become something of a summary of what we know already, but here goes:
So I doubt Backfire has a Godfather role since he already has like two kills and one protect, which would pretty much confirm him as town UNLESS Jinxy was an insane/random/naive cop (I think an insane cop is not entirely out of the option since Shikieiki is so intent on judging people...)
Now, he claims he protected Lybydose last night, but that did not come through. The two possible explanations to this are that
1. He was roleblocked.
2. He is lying.
I am more inclined to think that he was roleblocked, since it was too much of a risk for him to not protect tracker when he knew full well I would be voyeuring the tracker to see if he did.
So who is the roleblocker?
People claim to be:
1. Lybydose - Toyosatomimi no Miko (tracker)
3. Rantai - Youmu (seraph knight - targeted bmin11)
4. JInxyjem - Shikieiki (cop, possibly insane)
9. LadySuburu - Cirno (masonry with Rolled, 9% chance of kill)
10. Rolled - Daiyousei (masonry with LadySuburu, no other special ability)
11. 0_o Kiddo-kun DeathxShinigami - Yukari (1-shot commuter)
12. akrolsmir - unknown
13. Wojjan - Kanako (motivator)
14. bmin11 - Aya (watcher)
15. Raging Bull - Mokou (lyncher, lynchee unknown)
16. Salvage - unknown
17. Gabi Backfire - Reisen Udongein (2 kills, 1 protect)
18. KRZY - Hatate (voyeur)
Roleblocker must be either akrolsmir or Salvage then.
Care to explain, both?
So I doubt Backfire has a Godfather role since he already has like two kills and one protect, which would pretty much confirm him as town UNLESS Jinxy was an insane/random/naive cop (I think an insane cop is not entirely out of the option since Shikieiki is so intent on judging people...)
Now, he claims he protected Lybydose last night, but that did not come through. The two possible explanations to this are that
1. He was roleblocked.
2. He is lying.
I am more inclined to think that he was roleblocked, since it was too much of a risk for him to not protect tracker when he knew full well I would be voyeuring the tracker to see if he did.
So who is the roleblocker?
People claim to be:
1. Lybydose - Toyosatomimi no Miko (tracker)
3. Rantai - Youmu (seraph knight - targeted bmin11)
4. JInxyjem - Shikieiki (cop, possibly insane)
9. LadySuburu - Cirno (masonry with Rolled, 9% chance of kill)
10. Rolled - Daiyousei (masonry with LadySuburu, no other special ability)
11. 0_o Kiddo-kun DeathxShinigami - Yukari (1-shot commuter)
12. akrolsmir - unknown
13. Wojjan - Kanako (motivator)
14. bmin11 - Aya (watcher)
15. Raging Bull - Mokou (lyncher, lynchee unknown)
16. Salvage - unknown
17. Gabi Backfire - Reisen Udongein (2 kills, 1 protect)
18. KRZY - Hatate (voyeur)
Roleblocker must be either akrolsmir or Salvage then.
Care to explain, both?
Oh and wojjan sorry, posted before reading thread ;_;
the only possible roleblocker (if backfire was really blocked) is JInxyjem
how?Lybydose wrote:
the only possible roleblocker (if backfire was really blocked) is JInxyjem
bmin watched backfire and saw only JInxyjem target him
X_X missed thatbmin11 wrote:
I watched Backfire. Apperantly, JInxyjem targetted Backfire on N2
okay
so either jinxy is actually a roleblocker who false-claimed or backfire did not protect lyby.
vote: jinxy
Also what if the lyncher's target is also a lyncher, targeting the other lyncher? I mean it would make sense given the characters. That would put akrolsmir as the most likely to be Kaguya, as he seems pretty dead set on getting rid of Raging Bull.
unvote
don't know what vote count is right now, don't want to end the day yet
don't hammer or even L-1 until we decide on targets for the night
don't know what vote count is right now, don't want to end the day yet
don't hammer or even L-1 until we decide on targets for the night
that lyncher lyncher thing makes sense. Dispose of one of them overnight and the other will be essentially a townie.
So the only one left for Backfire to kill is DxS
no he would kill akrolsmir
wait, that was the wrong person. I meant by Salvage