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Ivalset
vote: Lilac
0_o
vote MarioBros777
Lilac
Even though Ival is the wolf?

Wow...just wow.
Two_old
that's quite a defense
Lilac
It doesn't matter.

I've been hammered anyway.
Two_old
oh I didn't notice
Lilac
Herp derp, I've just been informed otherwise.

2. 0_o - Scientist
5. Kiddo-Kun - Used Vig
9. Salvage - Seer
12. Lilac - Civ
14. Ivalset - Civ
4. Two - GA?

I'm pretty sure I read "Civilian" on my role PM. Let me just double check.

Yeah, it says it there. Vote: Ival. I'll hate you more if you've just lead town around in circles.
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LadySuburu
A player has reached 3 votes, therefore the day will end once 24 hours has passed since the day start post. (There still is no automatic lynch. Just a flutcuating deadline that I'm toying with.)
Lilac
Okay, let's just say that I get lynched, who are you guys going to lynch next day?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Lilac

24
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LadySuburu
The dead body of Two was found this morning. Along with a mention in the paper. Apperently he's some sort of famous person from an unknown land you've never heard of. They plan to do an investigation tonight, and publish the results tomorrow.

24 hour deadline if someone has two votes before 24 hours. 48 hour deadline otherwise.
Lilac
olololol.

Told you.
0_o
vote no lynch
Ivalset
vote: No Lynch
Salvage
vote: no lynch
Kiddo-Kun
Vote: No lynch
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Due to unanimous vote, the day ends without a lynch.

Night 5, 24 hours.
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LadySuburu
Faceman died.

24 hours until deadline regardless.

Edit: In the newspaper, you find out that the results of the investigation revealed that Two did indeed die, but the person responsible could not be found.
Salvage
Vote: Ivalset


yeah right , you wolf.
Ivalset
vote: Salvage

Kiddo-kun, it's up to you to cast the tie-breaking vote. I'd advise you to look in great detail at the events of day 1. Keep in mind that animask and foulcoon were wolves, and it's highly probable that Chris was a wolf as well.

Take additional note of the fact that Salvage refused to claim d1, and only claimed d2 after Two had provided a list of unclaimed roles. Seer is an unconfirmable role that is easily imitated by a wolf.

Also to note, of the three people Two mentioned that refused to claim (animask, Salvage, and adam), adam was killed N1 by the wolves, animask was later shot by you for fakeclaiming insomniac, and that leaves us with Salvage.
Kiddo-Kun
Shit....
Ivalset
From IRC:

17:20:04 <LS> Teslavi / Salvage, PM me on if you want the day to end when Kiddo makes his choice
Kiddo, I'm accepting this proposal, but I need you to make sure that you've looked at everything closely before casting that vote. If you have any questions in particular you have plenty of time to ask them. Due to the possible additional time constraint I'm also going to provide all of my reasoning as to why Salvage is a wolf, to which you can make whatever informed decision you like.

All I ask is that you don't make your decision hastily.
Ivalset
From Day 1: viewtopic.php?p=1038919#p1038919

Specifically:
both animask and salvage brought up the guardian angel when talking to me - werewolf tell

animask and salvage both refused to claim - werewolf tell

salvage even went so far as to say that he wouldn't claim even if town was going to waste a lynch on him
Day 1 is pretty much a goldmine of information, now that we know for sure that animask and foulcoon were wolves, and we can quite safely assume that Chris was also a wolf due to his actions late day 1. I would highly advise rereading d1 and d2 keeping that in mind. Things to notice: animask defending Salvage and voting Chris, Salvage bandwagoning on Chris, foulcoon attempting to defend Chris and distance himself from animask and Salvage.

Day 2, Two is pretty much confirmed town. On Day 1, Two provided a list of the roles he received and more importantly, the roles he did not.
viewtopic.php?p=1041102#p1041102

Claiming seer before that information went public would have been an extremely risky move, with the high chance of a counterclaim. But afterwards, most of the risk involved is gone, with several roles being all but confirmed with the confirmation of Two being town.

As for reasons to why Salvage claimed seer instead of civilian: for one, there were already 4 civilian claims, for two, Salvage had already refused to claim so claiming civilian after that would never work, and for three, claiming an information role moves him down the systematic lynch list, prolonging his survivability. Salvage was forced to claim an aux role, and seer would be by far the easiest to emulate. You could also consider the fact that this game has gone on for so long, unable to successfully lynch a wolf. I'm a civilian and have been expendable the entire game. Salvage claimed seer and became the last on the lynch list.
Ivalset
And as a final thing to note, I'd suggest reading Subsection 3, Article 4-A of the ruleset for this game.

Salvage is the only one of us with a night action (except as a wolf, and not a seer).

Salvage was the first to vote today.

17:03:48 * Salvage (c9ff6e25@osu-D31EF467.mibbit.com) has joined #wwg
17:04:02 <Teslavi> oh okay, a little past halfway then!
17:04:23 <LS> They also pull that "Final Episode" that's not the final episode kind of thing
17:04:37 <LS> but knowing there's 10 chapters spoils that already
17:04:59 <Teslavi> not like i give two shits about that
17:05:06 <Teslavi> it's all about da postgame
17:06:32 <LS> True
17:06:53 <LS> The final form of the final postgame boss is a pain
17:06:55 <LS> <.<
17:08:08 <LS> The final day in WWG has begun.
17:13:37 <LS> I really want to edit in "Dawn of the" in front of "Final day" on my WWG's title.
Salvage joins IRC minutes before night ends, when there still several hours left in the night.
Salvage
Okay so , before answering to all the useless work you did , wolf , you lurked ALL the game , claimed CIVILIAN , and then lurked all the entire game , posting just the votes.



With that said :


D1 : As i stated everytime you said this : I did this cause i didn't know Two was town , cause he clearly wasn't confirmed , and i roleclaim to him when i saw he was clearly showing pro-town gameplay.



List of confirmed roles : How could that list not be a trap for the remaining wolves? .. you can ask two i never hesiated when he posted that list to tell him exactly "My role is on that list btw" and gave him the role when he was confirmed town enough to me.


Last of your points : I joined IRC and you sent the action in porpuse , also doesn't make any sense , trying to play smart? .. oh my god.
Salvage
Also of course you claimed day 1 , you knew he was town from the very beginning.
Kiddo-Kun
After some thought....

Vote: Ivalset
Ivalset
00:55:20 <Two> 0_o will probably be dead and kiddo won't post so if my thing doesn't work you need to vote first
00:57:29 <Ivalsetto> i know
00:59:41 <Ivalsetto> well apparently kiddo does post when called out
01:02:55 <Two> make sure you say how much you love 14 year old boys or something
01:03:01 <Ivalsetto> what
01:03:09 <Two> he's emotional
01:03:36 <Ivalsetto> ughhhh
I totally should have.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
At the end of the day, Ivalset was killed.

Wait, you think I meant Lynched? No. Killed.

Ripped to shreds by the savage salvage.

Along with Kiddo-Kun.

Wolves win!
Salvage
yay



Roleclaim : Were(Wolf)



wooooo :)
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Roles:

Refer to two's role list except replace Seer with Wolf and adam's role with Coroner.
bmin11

Two wrote:

Next day:
-2 Town (lynch, nightkill)
3 town
1 wolf
total people confirmed at this point: priest, mad scientist, 4 civilians

Next day:
lynch seer
game over

so you see by this process of elimination, it is impossible for wolves to win
Whyyyyyyyyyy
Two_old
why what

it was impossible until I got modkilled

which was like a second later
Chris_old
how the hell did we win this

I didn't even try after Two posted that msn convo

gj salvage
bmin11
Oh well gg
pieguyn
Two had PM'ed me saying Salvage was a wolf so I freaking knew it

good game~
0_o
That was mildly surprising.
Kiddo-Kun
Kill me now...
Sorry, I should have paid more attention to the facts (I do think like a 14 year old, now that I think of it...It sickens me..)
GG.
Ivalset
There's not a single fucking thing surprising about it.

Not a single fucking thing.

Fuck all of you.

I hope you burn in hell, Kiddo.
Chris_old

Ivalset wrote:

There's not a single fucking thing surprising about it.

Not a single fucking thing.

Fuck all of you.

I hope you burn in hell, Kiddo.
mad
Ivalset
It's the most infuriating thing to know the truth, spend a stupid amount of time mounting a case, and having it all spoiled because someone responds to "LOL OF COURSE HE'S A WOLF"


Fuck.


FUCK
Kiddo-Kun

Ivalset wrote:

It's the most infuriating thing to know the truth, spend a stupid amount of time mounting a case, and having it all spoiled because someone responds to "LOL OF COURSE HE'S A WOLF"


Fuck.


FUCK
Very Mad...
Doesn't matter because I'm quitting Mafia now it's a burden and not as fun anymore :/
inb4 "Good, quit and never come back!"

Bye Bye guys~
Chris_old
I have no idea how Two guessed my role on the dot in the first 2 minutes~

it sucks having someone like him have direct access to you during games like this :(
Two_old
aw thanks
Sleep Powder
No way...

+ 1 Salvage

Roleclaim: Wolf Leader

We should've lost because of Two... I guess I forgot to think about how everyone else would think after Salvage was the last one left.
Ivalset
I'm going to assume foulcoon did all the work because anything less is considerably more infuriating.
Salvage
Wooo , that's mean , i tought of a lot of things lol .. LS could proove that :(.
foulcoon
the only thing i did was help plant in your minds that salvage was town. other than that, he PMed me asking for help and i ignored because i was 99.99% sure we lost already
Ivalset

foulcoon wrote:

the only thing i did was help plant in your minds that salvage was town.
Did anyone actually fall for that shit? I really hope not.
foulcoon
i'd say kiddo-kun did but i'd be taking credit where it isn't due.
Salvage
Yeah i asked to all the other wolfs help when Two told me "Yea i think i'm gonna save myself" .. about if it was true or not lol.
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