Fine, but I want you to roleclaim and explain all of this Day 2. Now can we get back to discussing the lynch?
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KRZY was lurking through all of this
why not?
unvote, vote: KRZY
why not?
unvote, vote: KRZY
So maf can't kill Mash tonight. If Mash dies regardless, Two is clearly maf, and we lynch him. If they kill Two, Mash will die with him if town and Mash will get lynched the next day if he survives. Two is implying he can't die overnight, which might be his role (BP?) or an entirely WIFOM claim to survive the night.
If neither of them die, Mash either didn't visit maf-Two and is an idiot, or visited Two and he is confirmed town. Pretty cool.
If neither of them die, Mash either didn't visit maf-Two and is an idiot, or visited Two and he is confirmed town. Pretty cool.
that was an "am I reading this right post" btw, I'm not Capt. Obvious II.
also: vote: Jinx thanks someone else for voting him else it'd be omgus. I liked what was brought up about Salvage cause it sounded like scumtalk to me. He's new, and newbies often (at least to my experience) have jack idea what's going on or what to say. Salv's input will be about as extensive as it was today I'm afraid. Not certain enough to vote [redacted because I forgot who brought it up. Lyby?] over it though and JInx is scummier in my eyes.
also: vote: Jinx thanks someone else for voting him else it'd be omgus. I liked what was brought up about Salvage cause it sounded like scumtalk to me. He's new, and newbies often (at least to my experience) have jack idea what's going on or what to say. Salv's input will be about as extensive as it was today I'm afraid. Not certain enough to vote [redacted because I forgot who brought it up. Lyby?] over it though and JInx is scummier in my eyes.
Ok so here are the possibilities if Mashley agrees to hide behind Two:
Neither dies: This means either both are town OR both are mafia. Likely the former.
Only Mashley dies: Two is mafia
Only Two dies: Mashley is lying about role or his agreement to hide (which means probably mafia)
Both die: Both are town and mafia got a free double kill. If there is a watcher, he can watch Two and determine who killed him.
Neither dies: This means either both are town OR both are mafia. Likely the former.
Only Mashley dies: Two is mafia
Only Two dies: Mashley is lying about role or his agreement to hide (which means probably mafia)
Both die: Both are town and mafia got a free double kill. If there is a watcher, he can watch Two and determine who killed him.
To add to this, Mashley can psuedo-cop on later dates in the same way by hiding behind people to confirm them as town.
The only problem is, how does Hider interact with roleblocking? In most games, Hider takes priority over Roleblocking, so it's likely to be that way here as well.
The only problem is, how does Hider interact with roleblocking? In most games, Hider takes priority over Roleblocking, so it's likely to be that way here as well.
it doesn't necessarily mean that both of us are town, just means that I'm town since he supposedly didn't die from hiding behind meLybydose wrote:
Ok so here are the possibilities if Mashley agrees to hide behind Two:
Neither dies: This means either both are town OR both are mafia. Likely the former.
Still though this strategy isn't airtight. He's not counting a busdriver or a roleblocker or a strongman to take them both down regardless of Two's apparent nightkill immunity(?) Heck if Lilac and pieguy got fancy there might be an interceptor around.
oh whoops nvm about roleblocker if Lyby says Hider goes first in natural order.
mod: confirm please. also votecount?
mod: confirm please. also votecount?
In most games, Hiding takes priority over everything except Copying (this includes bussing and blocking). Furthermore, strongman can't directly target a Hider since it trumps even that.Wojjan wrote:
Still though this strategy isn't airtight. He's not counting a busdriver or a roleblocker or a strongman to take them both down regardless of Two's apparent nightkill immunity(?) Heck if Lilac and pieguy got fancy there might be an interceptor around.
mod: can we get an updated vote count?
Keeping my vote on Salvage for now thanks to his blatant OMGUS on my one vote.
I meant strongman on Two, since he seems to imply that he's somehow making it through the night. Also, I'm pretty sure Hiding never took privilege over busdriving. mod: confirm that too.
ok well, bus drivers are usually town. If you're a bus driver don't be stupid and swap Two with anyone.
doublepost instead of editing
In natural order resolution you find an action that cannot be modified by another action and resolve that first. Unfortunately both Hider and Bus Drive would be dependent on each other (if hider resolves first, bus fails. if bus resolves first, hider target changes). On the mafia wiki page, the suggested order is hider first, then bus.
In natural order resolution you find an action that cannot be modified by another action and resolve that first. Unfortunately both Hider and Bus Drive would be dependent on each other (if hider resolves first, bus fails. if bus resolves first, hider target changes). On the mafia wiki page, the suggested order is hider first, then bus.
Hider takes priority over everything in my games (Except strongman, but I use strongman abnormally and stronger than the role normally is.)
As for what this game is doing? No clue.
As for what this game is doing? No clue.
Topic Starter
Hiding takes priority over busdriving. Hiders cannot be roleblocked, but bus drivers can.Wojjan wrote:
mod: confirm please.
also votecount?Votecount:
JInxyjem (4) - Mashley, 0_o, Wojjan, bmin11
Salvage (2) - Lybydose, Rolled
Lybydose (2) - animask, Salvage
Wojjan (2) - jinxyjem, KRZY
KRZY (1) - Two
Gabi (1) - akrolsmir
Raging Bull (1) - Gabi
Vote: Quaraezha
has literally contributed nothing other than a vote on Two, and then an unvote
Gabi has done the same, nothing but a random vote
I really don't want to go through and check all 18 people so someone do it for me please
has literally contributed nothing other than a vote on Two, and then an unvote
Gabi has done the same, nothing but a random vote
I really don't want to go through and check all 18 people so someone do it for me please
Prod everyone who didn't post in the last 24 hours please , specially Gabi.
I find Gabi's extreme lurking pretty suspicious , but i'd like to hear what he has to say first.
I find Gabi's extreme lurking pretty suspicious , but i'd like to hear what he has to say first.
prod: Gabi
People who strike me as inactive:
animask
Rantai
Q
bmin11
Raging Bull
Gabi
KRZY
If you resent this categorization please do speak up.
People who strike me as inactive:
animask
Rantai
Q
bmin11
Raging Bull
Gabi
KRZY
If you resent this categorization please do speak up.
ninja'd. It might be helpful to note that Gabi's the only one who hasn't spoken in 24 hours.
I'm not inactive ._. I just don't know what to say really.
Also how come if Mashley hides behind two, two won't die?Two wrote:
It's simple, just have mashley formally agree to hide behind me tonight. If he's telling the truth then I won't die. If I die without
I've posted everything I wanted to say, which were...
1. Deaf is bull shit (which it was)
2. Agree on Mashley hiding behind Two and all those possibilities
3. Why seek for Watcher on D1?
I just didn't felt like pointing it out again as they were obvious/had no impact or significant point out on others.
1. Deaf is bull shit (which it was)
2. Agree on Mashley hiding behind Two and all those possibilities
3. Why seek for Watcher on D1?
I just didn't felt like pointing it out again as they were obvious/had no impact or significant point out on others.
Posting here before i go to sleep.
That said, i'm going to unvote. Will continue when i wake up tomorrow
That said, i'm going to unvote. Will continue when i wake up tomorrow
Everyone seems to be trying to guess roles here and talk about them. There isn't really much going on besides that besides Two and his odd roleclaim. (I just skimmed those other posts that seemed to talk about roles people could have.) I think some of the mafia may be the ones that are discussing about how roles work because they have a better understanding of what the roles could be like.
Always when I'm sleeping.
Give me a bit, 8 pages popped up out of no where.
Give me a bit, 8 pages popped up out of no where.
Heh I figured that restriction was silly.
I see no reason for Two to expose himself as a mafia if Mashley is the hider (ie Mashley dies solo tonight), leading me to believe, at the very least, he's not mafia (going either town or independent). Call it whatever you want but I also don't believe both are mafia out to scheme the big plan.
I see no reason for Two to expose himself as a mafia if Mashley is the hider (ie Mashley dies solo tonight), leading me to believe, at the very least, he's not mafia (going either town or independent). Call it whatever you want but I also don't believe both are mafia out to scheme the big plan.
^ That goes from the perspective of me if I were playing in that position. Seems idiotic to expose yourself like that, if mafia.
I don't see why lurking all day without posting anything is suspicious. I just keep this page open all the time, that is all.
Unvote
Unvote
Alright, back from school, and read the few pages back.
One: I still don't believe random 1-votes are going to do jack in scum-hunting, especially after 1 real day has gone over without any scummy action. Asking us to keep the useless votes there made me feel that wojjan is mafia and making us keep the votes away from his mafia buddies.
Two: I agree with Rantai; Two exposing himself as mafia just to kill Mashley really doesn't sound like something he would do.
One: I still don't believe random 1-votes are going to do jack in scum-hunting, especially after 1 real day has gone over without any scummy action. Asking us to keep the useless votes there made me feel that wojjan is mafia and making us keep the votes away from his mafia buddies.
Two: I agree with Rantai; Two exposing himself as mafia just to kill Mashley really doesn't sound like something he would do.
Votecount: (Since I'm back...)
JInxyjem (4) - Mashley, 0_o, Wojjan, bmin11
Salvage (2) - Lybydose, Rolled
Lybydose (2) - animask, Salvage
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
KRZY (1) - Two
Gabi (1) - akrolsmir
Quaraezha (1) - Chris
Not Voting: Rantai, Quaraezha, LadySuburu, Raging Bull, Gabi, KRZY. Deadline is in around 3 days.
JInxyjem (4) - Mashley, 0_o, Wojjan, bmin11
Salvage (2) - Lybydose, Rolled
Lybydose (2) - animask, Salvage
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
KRZY (1) - Two
Gabi (1) - akrolsmir
Quaraezha (1) - Chris
Not Voting: Rantai, Quaraezha, LadySuburu, Raging Bull, Gabi, KRZY. Deadline is in around 3 days.
I guess everyone is fine with letting people off the hook just because they said "there was nothing to say"?
Well, I'm not sure what to make of it.
On one hand you're right it's not helping town at all, on the other hand repeating what others say to 'say something' isn't too helpful either.
Though it would be nice to hear opinions.
On one hand you're right it's not helping town at all, on the other hand repeating what others say to 'say something' isn't too helpful either.
Though it would be nice to hear opinions.
I think we need to lynch someone who's inactive, they aren't bringing anything to the game anyways
17 hours ago.Gabi wrote:
Posting here before i go to sleep.
That said, i'm going to unvote. Will continue when i wake up tomorrow
I don't really like the Lynch all Lurkers policy style play, but I've got nothing better right now and I've started to get a little annoyed by lurkers over the past few games.
Still, I'm going to reread over what we have in the thread and hope I find something.
Usually I wouldn't either, except the only thing that's happened so far is Two and Mashley's N1 plan.LadySuburu wrote:
I don't really like the Lynch all Lurkers policy style play, but I've got nothing better right now and I've started to get a little annoyed by lurkers over the past few games.
No one has really talked about anything else other than Two's claim, which led to that.
It's pretty much the only option I can see, and even after calling most of these people out they've still yet to post
anyone willing to roleclaim? make this interesting please
unvote, vote KRZY
please don't tell me you're going to let this one slide
please don't tell me you're going to let this one slide
Two seems intent on getting me out of the frame.
Vote: Two
Vote: Two
you seem intent on dying
since your two posts on this page are the most anti town things you can do
grats
since your two posts on this page are the most anti town things you can do
grats
why would you vote for two when they're basically confirmed town
How's Two confirmed town now? Wasn't his plan to make him so? .. Oh god Two how i envy you and your persuasion powers , people already trusting him already on d1, cool.
The fact that he concocted on his own a plan to make his alignment confirmed means that he has nothing to hide: tonight's plan will confirm two as either town or mafia, and a mafia member would avoid that attention.
vote: KRZY I mean what the hell. If you read that and aren't voting KRZY yet I'm gonna have Two shout at you a lot until you do.
vote: KRZY I mean what the hell. If you read that and aren't voting KRZY yet I'm gonna have Two shout at you a lot until you do.
Maybe confirmed was too strong of a word, but come D2 he should be.Salvage wrote:
How's Two confirmed town now? Wasn't his plan to make him so? .. Oh god Two how i envy you and your persuasion powers , people already trusting him already on d1, cool.
assuming Mashley is hides behind him, and Mashley isn't Mafia and isn't lying about hider anyways
I doubt he is though
but it's possible they are both mafia lol, which is even more unlikely
omg whyyyyyWojjan wrote:
I'm gonna have Two shout at you a lot until you do.
whenever you rub against me like a cat I think you're mafia
Vote KRZY
you mad that the one roleclaim is a role you can't nightkill?
you mad that the one roleclaim is a role you can't nightkill?
KRZY wrote:
anyone willing to roleclaim? make this interesting please
I don't see much difference between these quotes. They were both asking for a role claim if we go to the basis. Ofcourse, Two shows better intention by saying "just one person please", but you can't entirely say KRZY's would be anti-town move as you guys were pressuring the fuck out of us as if we were students who could not finish their homework. Or do you guys seriously need more posts saying "Ya I agree" with a wall of texts? Or do you think you can force a good idea by wagging the person's neck like you guys did? (and calling that as a pro-town actions as well). I think you guys are overreacting against lurkers for D1 while there are nothing but few to talk about.Two wrote:
Anyone want to claim aux anyway? Just one person please.
That's that. Can't lie that OMGUS vote looked awfully terrible. I'll vote after he posts something he would want to say about his actions
Unvote for this useless RV I sticked with.
vote : Gabi
Yeah , just look at the thread and keep lurkin.
Yeah , just look at the thread and keep lurkin.
are you even reading the thread? Two is not actually confirmed town right now, but will either be confirmed mafia or town after the first night. Since it would be utterly stupid for a mafia to do such a gambit that would confirm him as mafia like that, chances are very high that he is town.Salvage wrote:
How's Two confirmed town now? Wasn't his plan to make him so? .. Oh god Two how i envy you and your persuasion powers , people already trusting him already on d1, cool.
So basically anyone attacking or questioning Two right now is not acting in the town's best interests.
unvote, vote: KRZY
FoS: Salvage
unvote, vote: KRZY
FoS: Salvage
Lybydose wrote:
are you even reading the thread? Two is not actually confirmed town right now, but will either be confirmed mafia or town after the first night. Since it would be utterly stupid for a mafia to do such a gambit that would confirm him as mafia like that, chances are very high that he is town.Salvage wrote:
How's Two confirmed town now? Wasn't his plan to make him so? .. Oh god Two how i envy you and your persuasion powers , people already trusting him already on d1, cool.
are you even reading my posts? Chris said "Why vote for two if he's confirmed town" , and he is not confirmed town as i stated in my post , he could be tommorrow as he couldn't be it (and yes it sounds stupid to make such a plan being mafia but who knows) , i was just correcting Chris .. i really don't understand your way to think Lyby , pay more attention pls.
Well no because they could technically both be mafia. Unless the mod pops in to say "yo sup Two is town" you don't take that for granted.Lybydose wrote:
So basically anyone attacking or questioning Two right now is not acting in the town's best interests.
I'm not saying he isn't though. Two is so protown he can't pro any harder. Just saying that definitely in Salvage's case I'm gonna give him the benefit of being a maybe-skeptic.
Nothing much too say although I do like to see Two explain what bmin quoted.
Vote: KRZY
Vote: KRZY
Not sure about editing posts...so
FoS:Gabi Saw him lurking for like 10 minutes here and still no posts ._.
FoS:Gabi Saw him lurking for like 10 minutes here and still no posts ._.
I don't want to. If Two is protown right now, and KRZY is showing signs of him being anti-town my vote will have to go for him.Wojjan wrote:
hi gabi do a trick
come on boy do a trick
Vote : KRZY
Votecount:
KRZY (5) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Raging Bull
Lybydose (2) - animask, Salvage
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
Quaraezha (1) - Chris
Two (1) - KRZY
Salvage (1) - Rolled
Not Voting: Rantai, Quaraezha, LadySuburu.
KRZY (5) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Raging Bull
Lybydose (2) - animask, Salvage
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
Quaraezha (1) - Chris
Two (1) - KRZY
Salvage (1) - Rolled
Not Voting: Rantai, Quaraezha, LadySuburu.
what , oh sorry
unvote Lybydose
Didn't realize i had a vote already.
unvote Lybydose
Didn't realize i had a vote already.
unvote, Vote Gabi
posts again and still doesn't even bother to do anything but vote, wow
posts again and still doesn't even bother to do anything but vote, wow
Voting KRZY as well. Just bandwagoning since I'm always here late.
One more 1500 word paper due this week zzzzzz
One more 1500 word paper due this week zzzzzz
actually unvote. I want to give him a chance to respond without potentially hammering. Not sure how many hours are left in the day at all really.
FoS KRZY, though.
FoS KRZY, though.
What exactly do you expect me to do except for voting?Chris wrote:
unvote, Vote Gabi
posts again and still doesn't even bother to do anything but vote, wow
generate discussion
for example, you can point out any observations you've made
attack people
defend people
speculate about the setup
the possibilities are endless
for example, you can point out any observations you've made
attack people
defend people
speculate about the setup
the possibilities are endless
more than thisGabi wrote:
What exactly do you expect me to do except for voting?
hipost your thoughts/opinions on stuff, every post you've made has just been to vote or unvote, have you even read the thread?
Vote : Raging Bull
THEN
Posting here before i go to sleep.
That said, i'm going to unvote. Will continue when i wake up tomorrow
THEN
I don't want to. If Two is protown right now, and KRZY is showing signs of him being anti-town my vote will have to go for him.
Vote : KRZY
Ah well, i have to admit this is my first mafia game, i didn't think people would be so agressive on the first day. But at the moment i dont really have anything to add and my vote stays where it is. Allthough i would like to see KRZY defend himself.
And yes i have read the thread.
And yes i have read the thread.
Yeah , the it's my first game thing doesn't really work here , it's my first game also and i'm not lurking the shit out of the thread , if you really are town then help town , don't act like mafia or u'll be voted as such.
Topic Starter
Votecount:
KRZY (6) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Raging Bull, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Salvage (1) - Rolled
Lybydose (1) - animask
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
Two (1) - KRZY
10 votes are required to lynch.
KRZY (6) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Raging Bull, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Salvage (1) - Rolled
Lybydose (1) - animask
Wojjan (1) - Jinxyjem
Two (1) - KRZY
10 votes are required to lynch.
Sorry, I think I've overcommitted myself with my current workload, I'm gonna drop out of this one.
gogogo Kiddo-kun
gogogo Kiddo-kun
Topic Starter
Waiting for a confirmation from Kiddo-kun...
I'm basically waiting for KRZY to respond, but I'm kinda doubting he will at this point.
the second bandwagon forming kind of makes me think we hit oil
Oh come on bandwagon harder.Gabi wrote:
I don't want to. If Two is protown right now, and KRZY is showing signs of him being anti-town my vote will have to go for him.
Vote : KRZY
Town doesn't win by being passive.Gabi wrote:
Ah well, i have to admit this is my first mafia game, i didn't think people would be so agressive on the first day. But at the moment i dont really have anything to add and my vote stays where it is. Allthough i would like to see KRZY defend himself.
I'll keep my vote where it is, though if KRZY continues to remain silent I'll probably have to switch.
mafia logic: "oh shit they're bandwagoning one of our members quick bandwagon someone else they'll never know"Salvage wrote:
why's that i'd like to hear smart two.
So you're saying that Gabi's playstyle isn't scummy at all? .. i personally voted him cause i find it way scummier than KRZY .. i'm not saying he's post isn't scummy at all cause it kinda is , but Gabi doesn't even want to help town and it's posting useless stuff, that's my reason atleast.
no I never said that, but KRZY is scummier than Gabi at the moment
it also works the other way, "oh look a bandwagon is forming let's hop on it"Lybydose wrote:
mafia logic: "oh shit they're bandwagoning one of our members quick bandwagon someone else they'll never know"
I'm waiting for krzy to respond like everybody else, the only thing that struck me as odd is everyone instantly jumping on the bandwagon after Two voted for them <-- trying to associate themselves with the most confirmed town
also can we get a correct votecount cause both of the last ones have been wrong~
Topic Starter
really? o.o // I've gone through everything twice and that votecount seems right. I probably just suck at hosting = =
Mod: How much time is left?
I'd say wait at least 24 hours (if there is 24 hours left) from his (KRZY) last post before assuming he won't post again. I've been in plenty of situations where I post right before sleeping/going to uni etc then wake up/come back to find that stupid choices have been made.
Vote: Salvage
Unneeded aggression towards newbie lurkers (seriously there is a difference between pressure to get them into a productive state and "I'm better than you" attitudes) and an omgus vote that seemed to just slide under the table. Now, you may disagree with me but I really don't like the way you're posting.
I'd say wait at least 24 hours (if there is 24 hours left) from his (KRZY) last post before assuming he won't post again. I've been in plenty of situations where I post right before sleeping/going to uni etc then wake up/come back to find that stupid choices have been made.
Vote: Salvage
Unneeded aggression towards newbie lurkers (seriously there is a difference between pressure to get them into a productive state and "I'm better than you" attitudes) and an omgus vote that seemed to just slide under the table. Now, you may disagree with me but I really don't like the way you're posting.
*useless post*
Also: Users browsing this forum: Rantai and 22 guests
Oh come on guys. I might as well point everyone who doesn't post as lurkers
Edit: Friendly jab at the invisible browsing mode.
Also: Users browsing this forum: Rantai and 22 guests
Oh come on guys. I might as well point everyone who doesn't post as lurkers
Edit: Friendly jab at the invisible browsing mode.
Completely unrelated to the game:Rantai wrote:
*useless post*
Also: Users browsing this forum: Rantai and 22 guests
Oh come on guys. I might as well point everyone who doesn't post as lurkers
Users browsing this forum: Rantai and 33 guests
Wut.
Is there a storm of some sort brewing?
Uhhh. They're all gone.
Users browsing this forum: Raging Bull and 0 guests
Users browsing this forum: Raging Bull and 0 guests
Well, KRZY has some explaining to do, and Gabi, well, he's new but I do expect some opinions from him soon.
I'll decide when KRZY explains his actions, so for now unvote
I'll decide when KRZY explains his actions, so for now unvote
I'm think there's around two days left. According to pieguy, anyway.
@Rantai : I'm sorry , seems like i'm just building my playstyle and i'm being influenced by Two a lot D:
Topic Starter
As of this post there is 37:58 left
What are the vote countss?
Also, away from home, so no internet.
Currently at Internet Cafe
Also, away from home, so no internet.
Currently at Internet Cafe
usually even at the Internet Cafe you can click the previous page(s) and read the vote countQuaraezha wrote:
What are the vote countss?
Also, away from home, so no internet.
Currently at Internet Cafe
I'll give KRZY until the end of the day to say ANYTHING before he gets my vote
if he doesn't he's worse than Gabi because at least they respond
if he doesn't he's worse than Gabi because at least they respond
lol sorry had a calc exam today and was preparing for that for the past day. You can ask bmin and he will confirm that I was absent from #korean all day yesterday also.
lemme post something in a moment
edit: ok here goes.
KRZY's view of events
1. Two played a strong card, which would confirm him as either a town or a mafia after N1.
2. The general consensus (well, not general, but the general expressed consensus) was that Two was town. (This, as a couple of people have explained, is because if Two was mafia, he wouldn't do such a risky thing.)
3. I was generally bored by the lack of progress after Two and Mashley, and ask for a roleclaim.
4. Somehow that makes me very Mafia, and Two votes for me.
5. Here I throw a bait, voting for Two and thinking the first person to really actively jump on the would-be bandwagon started by Two is likely to be Mafia, willing to get an easy free lynch on D1.
6. Then I figure out that you don't have to be Mafia to start the bandwagon; after all, I look so much like the Mafia by voting Two. Bait was too strong to be called a bait anymore.
7. Shit goes wrong.
I know this sounds like the classic "cool story bro" instance, but that's what happened in my point of view. I'm not a particularly skilled Mafia game player, and I still don't understand why asking for that roleclaim made Two vote for me. But I do understand one thing: town, and I, have a better chance of winning if one of its members is not lynched D1.
I also don't understand why lurking and saying nothing is that bad of a thing to do. Maybe it's because being passive doesn't help at all?
Now my course of action would be to vote whoever really jumped quick on the bandwagon, because
Unvote for now.
lemme post something in a moment
edit: ok here goes.
KRZY's view of events
1. Two played a strong card, which would confirm him as either a town or a mafia after N1.
2. The general consensus (well, not general, but the general expressed consensus) was that Two was town. (This, as a couple of people have explained, is because if Two was mafia, he wouldn't do such a risky thing.)
3. I was generally bored by the lack of progress after Two and Mashley, and ask for a roleclaim.
4. Somehow that makes me very Mafia, and Two votes for me.
5. Here I throw a bait, voting for Two and thinking the first person to really actively jump on the would-be bandwagon started by Two is likely to be Mafia, willing to get an easy free lynch on D1.
6. Then I figure out that you don't have to be Mafia to start the bandwagon; after all, I look so much like the Mafia by voting Two. Bait was too strong to be called a bait anymore.
7. Shit goes wrong.
I know this sounds like the classic "cool story bro" instance, but that's what happened in my point of view. I'm not a particularly skilled Mafia game player, and I still don't understand why asking for that roleclaim made Two vote for me. But I do understand one thing: town, and I, have a better chance of winning if one of its members is not lynched D1.
I also don't understand why lurking and saying nothing is that bad of a thing to do. Maybe it's because being passive doesn't help at all?
Now my course of action would be to vote whoever really jumped quick on the bandwagon, because
5. Here I throw a bait, voting for Two and thinking the first person to really actively jump on the would-be bandwagon started by Two is likely to be Mafia, willing to get an easy free lynch on D1.but there is so many :S
Unvote for now.
hard to believe that you were just baiting mafia when you, right before that, were asking people to harm town's chances by roleclaiming
not to mention that your vote for me seemed much more reactionary than pre-meditated
not to mention that your vote for me seemed much more reactionary than pre-meditated
Two wrote:
when you, right before that, were asking people to harm town's chances by roleclaiming
Yes this is the part where I don't understand, why does asking to roleclaim harm the town's chances?
someone else can take the reigns for that one, for I am far too lazy
People who roleclaim shouldn't do so unless they can find a way to work around getting nightkilled. If someone claims cop on D1, without a doc he'll be sure to go N1.
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Kiddo-kun replaces 0_o
Deadline is in 28:51 hours.
Votecount:
KRZY (6) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Raging Bull, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
Salvage (2) - Rolled, Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Lybydose (1) - animask
10 votes are required to lynch.
Deadline is in 28:51 hours.
Votecount:
KRZY (6) - Two, Wojjan, Mashley, Lybydose, Raging Bull, Gabi
Gabi (3) - akrolsmir, Salvage, Chris
Salvage (2) - Rolled, Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - 0_o
Lybydose (1) - animask
10 votes are required to lynch.
Unvote
I believe what KRZY has to say, and think that his mistakes were more so due to inexperience than a scum alliance. I do request that you become more active, which you seem to be on the right track. A non-talkative townie does not benefit the town whatsoever.
I know this goes against what wojjan just told you, but the reality we are in right now is you are going to be lynched unless you claim an aux role. So if you're valuable to town, it's best to let it be known right now.
Vote: Quarazeeaagha for regular old voting for quararza reasons.
I believe what KRZY has to say, and think that his mistakes were more so due to inexperience than a scum alliance. I do request that you become more active, which you seem to be on the right track. A non-talkative townie does not benefit the town whatsoever.
I know this goes against what wojjan just told you, but the reality we are in right now is you are going to be lynched unless you claim an aux role. So if you're valuable to town, it's best to let it be known right now.
Vote: Quarazeeaagha for regular old voting for quararza reasons.
unvote, vote rolledRolled wrote:
the reality we are in right now is you are going to be lynched unless you claim an aux role. So if you're valuable to town, it's best to let it be known right now.