22:10 <Odaril> : CONSISTENCY
22:10 *Odaril slaps Raging_Bull
22:10 <Raging_Bull> : What?
22:10 <Odaril> : Your hitsounding is full of inconsistencies.
22:11 <Raging_Bull> : Oh.
22:11 <Odaril> : Easy
22:11 <Odaril> : 00:48:525 (3) - Add a whistle on the second beat. Both are the same notes, there is no reason why you would emphasize one and not the
22:11 <Odaril> : other.
22:11 <Raging_Bull> : But there is a finish already. Still add a whistle anyways?
22:12 <Odaril> : remove the finish
22:12 <Odaril> : or not, actually
22:12 <Odaril> : Both are fine
22:12 <Raging_Bull> : ahh okay.
22:12 <Odaril> : 00:52:525 (4) - whistle ? It goes kimi GA soba NI iru daaaaaaake deeeee
22:12 <Odaril> : you emphasized the GA
22:12 <Odaril> : but not the NI
22:13 <Odaril> : 00:57:096 (3) - and you did it here, so it becomes inconsitent D:
22:13 <Raging_Bull> : I didn't think it was powerful enough which is why I kinda ignored that part for all diff.
22:13 <Raging_Bull> : But I'll add it in
22:13 <Odaril> : But it is inconsistent D:
22:13 <Raging_Bull> : Alrighty! Consistency mod go!
22:14 <Odaril> : 00:58:239 (2) - Add a whistle on the third beat too (look at the previous similar repeat slider)
22:14 <Raging_Bull> : I'll add it to add diffs now
22:14 <Raging_Bull> : or not
22:14 <Raging_Bull> : So whistle at the end? ADded.
22:14 <Odaril> : You should, for consistency again
22:14 <Raging_Bull> : No I mean I will add it. I said or not because you just listed another thing
22:15 <Odaril> : 01:10:811 (3) - whistle on first
22:15 <Raging_Bull> : BTW. I forced default whistle on the GA and NI.
22:15 <Raging_Bull> : In case some people used a different whistle sound
22:16 <Raging_Bull> : Should be okay though right?
22:16 <Odaril> : it is
22:16 <Odaril> : I always force default hitsouds for my maps so :p
22:17 <Raging_Bull> : Haha okay.
22:18 <Raging_Bull> : Alright
22:18 <Raging_Bull> : Added the extra hitsound for the NIs on easy.
22:19 <Odaril> : 01:25:668 (2) - there shouldn't be a whistle here
22:19 <Odaril> : because the song goes down
22:19 <Odaril> : like
22:19 <Odaril> : KAGAAAAAYAAAAIIIIITEEEEEruuuu
22:20 <Raging_Bull> : How about remove that note and start spinner there?
22:20 <Odaril> : Works too
22:20 <Raging_Bull> : Alright. I didnt notice how awkward it sounds
22:21 <Odaril> : :p
22:21 <Odaril> : That's why you get people to mod
22:21 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah but people never pointed it out in my 10 pages mod
22:21 <Odaril> : Or ask people who are specialized in hitsounds for their opinion
22:21 <Raging_Bull> : cubes :3
22:21 <Odaril> : cubes isn't actually that good at hitsounds
22:22 <Odaril> : he can place them well
22:22 <Odaril> : but he lacks the details
22:22 <Odaril> : then again
22:22 <Odaril> : Maybe I'm just too pedantic
22:22 <Raging_Bull> : Well he's like the only hitsound mod I get
22:22 <Raging_Bull> : :*
22:22 <Raging_Bull> :
22:22 <Odaril> : Few people really care about hitsounds, but hitsounds is the most important part on my maps.
22:23 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah. The only type of hitsound mods most people do are "omg need more hitsounds" orz
22:23 <Odaril> : 01:27:935 - you need a metronome reset here
22:24 <Raging_Bull> : It's before the inherited section right?
22:24 <Odaril> : actually
22:24 <Odaril> : è01:13:793 - what the hell is this red line
22:25 <Odaril> : It's just wrong
22:25 <Odaril> : D:
22:25 <Odaril> : 01:13:793 -
22:25 <Raging_Bull> : What red line?
22:25 <Odaril> : huh
22:25 <Odaril> : I have a red line here in Easy
22:25 <Raging_Bull> :
http://puu.sh/5JGA22:26 <Raging_Bull> : Maybe it was accidentally added in when you tried to do a metronome reset for me?
22:26 <Odaril> : ok it disappeared
22:26 <Odaril> : ... what the fuck
22:26 <Raging_Bull> : what? ninja red line
22:26 <Odaril> : I perhaps clicked something to add a red line or something
22:27 <Raging_Bull> : So still add the red line on easy?
22:27 <Odaril> : no
22:28 <Odaril> : 02:19:382 (3) - whistle (same as above :p)
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : Ahh don't worry
22:29 <Odaril> : 02:23:382 (3) - remove first whistle
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : All added already.
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah removed that too
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : Missed that one
22:29 <Odaril> : 02:27:382 (1) - this (and it goes on later) offbeat claps
22:29 <Odaril> : D:
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : Btw. It's not whistle. It's whistle + finish
22:29 <Raging_Bull> : Do you think they are okay or just add whistle?
22:30 <Raging_Bull> : Hmm any suggestions? I can't add claps on the 2nd and 4th tick because of the way I mapped that
22:31 <Odaril> : Well, they sound kinda ok
22:39 <Odaril> : 00:51:382 (3,3) - whistles
22:39 <Odaril> : Normal
22:39 <Odaril> : can you update the map so I get the latest versions
22:39 <Raging_Bull> : whoops sorry.
22:39 <Raging_Bull> : okay
22:40 <Raging_Bull> : Alright added.
22:40 <Raging_Bull> : errrr
22:40 <Raging_Bull> : uploaded
22:43 <Odaril> : Normal
22:43 <Odaril> : 00:58:239 (3) - this slider bothers me
22:44 <Raging_Bull> : How so?
22:44 <Odaril> : That repeat
22:44 <Odaril> : it's like
22:44 <Odaril> : the beginning of the chorus is fine and flows well and stuff
22:44 <Odaril> : and this repeat
22:44 <Odaril> : It so breaks everything
22:45 <Raging_Bull> : How's this
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14889922:45 <Odaril> : the beat is what's wrong
22:46 <Raging_Bull> : Ahh.
22:46 <Odaril> : it should be a 2/1 slider
22:46 <Odaril> : D:
22:46 <Raging_Bull> : How about I end the slider where 4 is but without repeat
22:46 <Odaril> : That beat souds so off
22:46 <Raging_Bull> : yeahhhh
22:46 <Odaril> : 2/1 or 3/1 work
22:46 <Odaril> : imo
22:47 <Raging_Bull> : Please wait while I make an ugly blanket for 2 :v
22:47 <Odaril> : XD
22:47 <Odaril> : I can nazi the blanket
22:47 <Raging_Bull> : Somewhat decent? :3
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14890222:48 <Odaril> : The body is closer than the rest
22:48 <Odaril> : but it's okayish
22:48 <Raging_Bull> : ffff
22:48 <Odaril> : haha, you can leave it as is
22:48 <Raging_Bull> : Well you know. Besides you and hopefully not gonz/krisom/RJ. I think it's not noticeable
22:49 <Raging_Bull> : You think 00:59:382 (5,1) - is too close?
22:49 <Odaril> : No, it should be fine
22:49 <Odaril> : update the map ?
22:49 <Raging_Bull> : Sure
22:50 <Raging_Bull> : Ahh alright. Updated.
22:51 <Odaril> : Rather than going back in circle
22:51 <Odaril> :
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14890322:51 <Odaril> : do something like this
22:51 <Odaril> : so you continue the slider's curve
22:52 <Raging_Bull> : Ahh sure. It'll also fix the problem with the next slider.
22:53 <Raging_Bull> : K
22:53 <Odaril> : 01:25:668 (1) - this slider breaks the comboing
22:53 <Odaril> : Make it end 1/1 earlier, remove its new combo, and a note where it was with a new combo
22:53 <Odaril> : then remove 01:27:096 (1) - this new combo and add one on
22:53 <Odaril> : 01:27:953 (4) -
22:57 <Raging_Bull> : Overused arc and star formation okay?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14891322:58 <Odaril> : yeah looks fine
22:58 <Raging_Bull> : 01:27:953 (1) - NC?
22:58 <Odaril> : yes
23:22 <Odaril> : whoops
23:22 <Odaril> : started doing something else derp
23:22 <Raging_Bull> : Oh well. Not your fault. It's like what? 5 times you checked this.
23:23 <Odaril> : 01:57:668 (3) - this could be better
23:23 <Odaril> : /nazi
23:23 <Raging_Bull> : Anyways I fixed all the inconsistent hitsound for all diff
23:23 <Raging_Bull> : \:D/ One of my very first sliders I made for normal
23:23 <Odaril> : move the red points like 2 grids away each
23:23 <Odaril> : the curve will be much smoother
23:24 <Raging_Bull> : Alright. Did that
23:24 <Odaril> : do you see it
23:25 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah
23:25 <Raging_Bull> : not really a big different to me no :v
23:25 <Odaril> :
23:25 <Odaril> : The inner corner has a less sharp curve
23:26 <Raging_Bull> : I think it's mostly caused by the red tick on the right :
23:26 <Raging_Bull> :
23:26 <Raging_Bull> : I kept moving it and saw that it moves a big part of the body too
23:26 <Odaril> : 02:20:525 (3) - whistle on the end :p
23:26 <Raging_Bull> : Alright. Added.
23:26 <Raging_Bull> : Do you see how it's smiling at you? :3
23:27 <Raging_Bull> : inb4notgoodenough
23:27 <Odaril> : whywouldyousmile
23:28 <Odaril> : 02:25:096 (3) - whistle on end
23:28 <Raging_Bull> : Because 02:20:525 (3) - was out of grid T.T
23:28 <Raging_Bull> : or out of the playfield area
23:28 <Raging_Bull> : Added.
23:29 <Odaril> : 02:39:668 (4) - for consistency do something like normal-whistle
23:29 <Raging_Bull> : How about the clap there? Remove it?
23:29 <Odaril> : yeah
23:30 <Odaril> : you don't use a clap in similar cases
23:30 <Odaril> : before
23:30 <Odaril> : *didn't
23:30 <Raging_Bull> : 02:38:525 (2) - Remove this clap too then?
23:30 <Raging_Bull> : Actually yeah I'll remove it
23:30 <Odaril> : I missed that one yeah
23:31 <Raging_Bull> : Err. Do you want me to add whistle to the whole slider? Or just beginning?
23:31 <Odaril> : just the end
23:31 <Raging_Bull> : Whew. I added that on the beginning haha.
23:31 <Odaril> : why the beginning o.o
23:32 <Odaril> : It's the kimi GA soba NI iru DAAAAAAAde DE thing
23:32 <Raging_Bull> : Cause you didn't specify
So I assumed beginning
23:32 <Odaril> : <Odaril> do something like normal-whistle
23:32 <Odaril> : I meant normal (first beat) - (is the slider body) whistle (second beat)
23:32 <Raging_Bull> : Ohhhh
23:35 <Odaril> : hard
23:36 <Odaril> : 00:53:096 (1,4) - missing whistles
23:37 <Raging_Bull> : Add whistle to slider end right? For the downbeat and lyric?
23:37 <Raging_Bull> : or vocals my bad
23:37 <Odaril> : yes
23:37 <Raging_Bull> : Added.
23:37 <Odaril> : 00:59:096 (3) - sme
23:37 <Odaril> : same
23:38 <Odaril> : there's a lack of hitsouds after that
23:38 <Odaril> : hm
23:38 <Odaril> : For the nex two combos
23:38 <Odaril> : try doing this (placing hitsouds only on white ticks)
23:38 <Odaril> : W W NW
23:38 <Odaril> : so 01:00:239 (1) - whistle on first and last
23:39 <Odaril> : er
23:39 <Odaril> : only on last
23:39 <Odaril> : 01:00:811 (2) whistle
23:39 <Odaril> : 01:01:382 (4) - whistle on first
23:40 <Raging_Bull> : Done
23:40 <Raging_Bull> : 01:02:525 (1,2) - Whistles too?
23:42 <Raging_Bull> : Oh wait. 01:02:811 (2,3) - These too add whistles.
23:42 <Raging_Bull> : My bad
23:42 <Odaril> : yep
23:42 <Odaril> : and 01:03:668 (5) - first beat
23:42 <Raging_Bull> : Yep. Way ahead of you D:
23:43 <Odaril> : how does it soud
23:43 <Odaril> : soud
23:43 <Odaril> : SOUND
23:43 <Odaril> : gntbtiutrlihnrhnit
23:43 <Raging_Bull> : Souds nice ;D
23:43 <Odaril> : 01:10:811 (5,3) - whistles missing
23:44 <Odaril> : 01:13:096 (6) - this too
23:44 <Odaril> : 01:17:382 (3) - whistle on end
23:44 <Raging_Bull> : oh my lord how did I miss that
23:44 <Odaril> : 01:18:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - you can repeat my idea here :p
23:46 <Raging_Bull> : alright. Done.
23:46 <Raging_Bull> : Even the one ahead.
23:46 <Odaril> : and after
23:46 <Raging_Bull> : yeah that one
23:47 <Odaril> : 01:27:953 (4) - new combo :p
23:47 <Raging_Bull> : whoop
23:47 <Raging_Bull> : done
23:54 <Raging_Bull> : Sorry but I thought this was hilarious
http://puu.sh/5JQq23:54 <Odaril> : where did you find that ? D:
23:54 <Raging_Bull> :
viewtopic.php?t=5763023:55 <Odaril> : T_T
23:55 <Raging_Bull> : It's ranked so uh....orz nothing else to do about that
23:55 <Odaril> : I could ask a BAT to edit XD
23:55 <Raging_Bull> : Haha Jericho is available ;D
23:56 <Odaril> : 01:57:953 (2,3,4) - herp
23:56 <Odaril> : why
23:56 <Raging_Bull> : What? Whistle on snares? D:
23:56 <Odaril> : no
23:56 <Odaril> : the spacing
23:56 <Odaril> : D:
23:57 <Raging_Bull> : I wanted a little bigger spacing since it's a hard :S
23:57 <Raging_Bull> : NC on 4?
23:59 <Odaril> : Can't you keep the symmetry AND the spacing ? D:
00:01 <Raging_Bull> : Oh hey what'd you know, it wasn't even symmetrical
00:02 <Odaril> : T.T
00:02 <Odaril> : NUKE.
00:03 <Raging_Bull> : Not symmetrical by 1 osu pixel = nuke haha
00:03 <Odaril> : I'm not like that D:
00:04 <Odaril> : Anyway, yeah, fix the spacing if possible
00:04 <Raging_Bull> : Better?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14895200:05 <Odaril> : yea
00:05 <Raging_Bull> : Hmm. Should I move the pink 1,2,3?
00:05 <Odaril> : nah
00:06 <Odaril> : 02:04:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - this comboing D:
00:07 <Odaril> : 02:06:239 (6) - this slider breaks it
00:10 <Raging_Bull> :
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/148958 Better?
00:10 <Odaril> : huh dunno
00:10 <Odaril> : 02:06:811 - the new combo should be here
00:10 <Raging_Bull> : Damn you sliderrr
00:11 <Odaril> : Bad slider placement !
00:11 <Raging_Bull> : Nukeable?
00:12 <Odaril> : no
00:12 <Odaril> : Just bad
00:12 <Odaril> : It makes comboing inconsistent
00:12 <Odaril> : Very few things are nukable
00:13 <Raging_Bull> : Like one pixel off symmetrical sliders
00:14 <Odaril> : XD
00:16 <Odaril> : 02:08:525 (3) - new combo
00:17 <Odaril> : 02:21:668 (5) - whistle
00:17 <Raging_Bull> :
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14896400:17 <Raging_Bull> : better I guess
00:18 <Raging_Bull> : NC on 3? Seems weird
00:18 <Odaril> : new sentence in the vocals
00:18 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah. I had a feeling you were going to say that after hearing that part again
00:19 <Odaril> : :3
00:19 <Odaril> : That means you're starting to understand how to combo
00:19 <Odaril> : my way
00:19 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah. New verses/instrument
00:19 <Odaril> : 02:26:239 (5) - whistle on first beat
00:20 <Odaril> : oh
00:20 <Raging_Bull> : How about add whistle to the whole thing? Consistent with 3?
00:20 <Raging_Bull> : 02:25:096 (3) -
00:20 <Odaril> : check all kiai times for Hard to add the hitsounds I suggested earlier
00:21 <Odaril> : can work
00:21 <Odaril> : but
00:21 <Raging_Bull> : whistle whistle normal whistle?
00:21 <Odaril> : don't add a whistle on its end
00:21 <Odaril> : yeah
00:21 <Raging_Bull> : K removed whistle at the end.
00:21 <Odaril> : because the song goes down there
00:21 <Raging_Bull> : Why did I ever pick yellow combo color
00:21 <Odaril> : goes like
00:21 <Raging_Bull> : So hard to see white ticks ~.~
00:21 <Odaril> : MAAAATETAAAaaaaaa
00:22 <Raging_Bull> : Yea. The vocal is lowered
00:22 <Odaril> : 02:53:953 (1) - bring it closer to the center ?
00:23 <Odaril> : ALso, add a new combo on (4)
00:24 <Raging_Bull> : done
00:25 <Raging_Bull> : Let me update it?
00:25 <Odaril> : k
00:25 <Raging_Bull> : Alright done
00:26 <Raging_Bull> : Some stuff you mentioned I also changed in the back
00:26 <Raging_Bull> : So didn't want you to repeat again
00:27 <Odaril> : 00:05:668 (1,2,3) - watch out for little spacing inconsistencies like that
00:28 <Raging_Bull> : Actually ziin told me to move it
00:28 <Raging_Bull> : cause they look ugly overlapping
00:28 <Odaril> : Keep the spacing constant at 1.1 then
00:30 <Odaril> : 00:23:668 (7) - remove whistle
00:30 <Raging_Bull> :
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/148973 T.T overlap now
00:30 <Odaril> : your whistles are following the guitar, but this one doesn't
00:30 <Raging_Bull> : Maybe I shouldn't copy paste this hehe
00:31 <Raging_Bull> : Huh?
00:31 <Odaril> : hm...
00:31 <Raging_Bull> : Wait are you on insane?
00:31 <Odaril> : yes
00:31 <Raging_Bull> : I thought you were on hard still
00:32 <Odaril> : aw
00:32 <Odaril> : my fault
00:32 <Odaril> : ><
00:32 <Raging_Bull> : This never had a whistle o.o
00:32 <Raging_Bull> : Well it does on hard
00:33 <Odaril> : it did have it on insane too
00:33 <Odaril> : but I forgot to update
00:33 <Odaril> : derp
00:33 <Raging_Bull> : oh wait
00:33 <Raging_Bull> : it did have a whistle
00:33 <Raging_Bull> : To be fair! It didnt when I was still on it D:
00:33 <Raging_Bull> : I had to reopen insane
00:34 <Raging_Bull> : But I kinda like the whistle there. I thought it sounded nice.
00:35 <Odaril> : It's as you wish
00:36 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah. I'm keeping that D:
00:36 <Odaril> : 00:53:668 (7,9) - whistles
00:36 <Odaril> : D:
00:36 <Odaril> : 00:58:239 (3,7) - same
00:37 <Odaril> : 01:11:954 (7,10) - same
00:37 <Odaril> : D:
00:37 <Raging_Bull> : Stop beating me to it
00:37 <Odaril> : recheck the whole diff for these D:
00:37 <Odaril> : XD
00:37 <Odaril> : okay
00:37 <Raging_Bull> : 01:16:525 (2,3) - Haha this was the only one safe :3
00:38 <Raging_Bull> : oh wait
00:38 <Raging_Bull> : whistle from slider end =3=
00:40 <Raging_Bull> : Can you update insane?
00:40 <Raging_Bull> : I think I fixed the ones you mentioned
00:43 <Odaril> : you can use the hitsounding I suggested in this diff too
00:43 <Raging_Bull> : Oh crap so that's what I forgot
00:46 <Raging_Bull> : Alrighty done too
00:47 <Odaril> : update ?
00:47 <Raging_Bull> : k
00:47 <Raging_Bull> : Updated.
00:50 <Odaril> : 00:55:954 (3,4) - why this jump ? o.o
00:51 <Raging_Bull> : Hmm not good?
00:52 <Odaril> : I fail to see why you placed a jump here
00:52 <Odaril> : the rest is very similar and spaced normally, so...
00:52 <Raging_Bull> : Oh, so inconsistent?
00:53 <Raging_Bull> : Yeah I suppose it's different I'll chaange it
00:53 <Odaril> : kind of
00:55 <Raging_Bull> : This?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14899300:56 <Odaril> : looks good
00:58 <Odaril> : 01:15:668 (1,3) - people might yell at you for this
00:58 <Raging_Bull> : What? But it's completely visible
01:00 <Odaril> : It is, but Sakura yelled at me for not making someone change a case like this (when I could perfectly see it when playing)
01:02 <Odaril> : 01:56:811 (3) - why a clap ?
01:02 <Odaril> : it souds so sudden
01:02 <Raging_Bull> : How about this?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14899901:03 <Odaril> : yep that works
01:03 <Raging_Bull> : I don't even know why is there a clap lol
01:03 <Raging_Bull> : Remove
01:03 <Odaril> : XD
01:03 <Raging_Bull> : 01:59:096 (6) - ~~
01:03 <Odaril> : 02:03:382 (7,8,9) - extremely surprising jumps
01:03 <Odaril> : I thought they were 1/1 when I testplayed
01:04 <Odaril> : and 02:04:239 (1) -
01:04 <Raging_Bull> : Should be better now
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14900001:05 <Odaril> : Also, you should add hitsoudns to that section
01:05 <Raging_Bull> : Why am I having random claps.
01:08 <Raging_Bull> : Added few whistles
01:08 <Raging_Bull> : Like here 02:06:811 (7,8) -
01:08 <Raging_Bull> : 02:07:953 (10) -
01:10 <Odaril> : that pink combo colours is difficult to see
01:10 <Odaril> : 03:35:096 (1) - colourhax this
01:10 <Odaril> : the triple is impossible to see
01:10 <Raging_Bull> : Red then
01:11 <Raging_Bull> : Yellow would be hard to see anyways.
01:15 <Odaril> : I don't wanna nazi the heart you'll hate mùe
01:15 <Odaril> : Check your points they aren't symmetrical
01:17 <Raging_Bull> : Well if it can make my heart better it's fine
01:17 <Odaril> : check your points then
01:17 <Odaril> : :p
01:17 <Raging_Bull> : I used RJ's guide
01:17 <Raging_Bull> : when I shortened the slider to the tick I want
01:17 <Raging_Bull> : I had to readjust it a bit
01:17 <Raging_Bull> : so points arent symmetrical T.T
01:17 <Odaril> :
01:21 <Odaril> : 04:03:382 (1) - move the redpoints away so the elbow looks nicer
01:22 <Raging_Bull> : 2 points away right?
01:23 <Odaril> : Something like that
01:23 <Raging_Bull> : Well done
01:23 <Odaril> : :p
01:24 <Raging_Bull> : Even the next elbow slider
01:24 <Odaril> : Do you see the difference ?
01:24 <Raging_Bull> : I felt like I've been asked this
01:24 <Raging_Bull> : But yeah this time I see it better
01:25 <Odaril> : rest is good
01:25 <Raging_Bull> : ~.~ Now to go sleep
01:25 <Raging_Bull> : Thanks
01:26 <Odaril> : haha okay
01:26 <Odaril> : update your map
01:26 <Raging_Bull> : "Thanks Odaril for like checking this million times :3" Do I win?
01:26 <Odaril> : XD
01:26 <Raging_Bull> : I mean I spelt it right!
01:26 <Odaril> : I think I checked it 5-6 times
01:27 <Odaril> : savelog this if you want to kudosu my post
01:27 <Raging_Bull> : 3-4 hour T.T