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LadySuburu
To anyone playing the game who wants free CP (For map editing) - Pirate Duel with LadySuburu at around rank 12 (at time of posting.)

I've got my units set to sit still, you should get a decent amount of CP (Up to 999) once per day.
awp

ampzz wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Oh, and monsters have TWO passive evility slots, for a total of four when fused together. (I fully expect the damage to break a quadrillion this time around, with that "Forever Counter" geoblock and other things I've seen.)
Oh my, I wonder if you could actually break the game
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness would crash to the OS if you built a counter chain to 10
lukewarmholiday
Since when did team and tower attacks not suck(visaually), and defending.

I should have played 3. SO SORRY DISGAEA 2 I DO NOT WANT TO ITEM WORLD AND STACK 15 TIMES TO RAISE FELONIES TO 300
Pokebis
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-disgaea-4/720409

HURR DURR WHY ARE THERE MENUS READING IS TOO HARD AND THE GRAPHICS SUCK. THE STORY ALSO HAS CLICHES EVEN THOUGH IT'S SATIRICAL BUT THAT WORD IS TOO BIG FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.
LadySuburu

Pokebis wrote:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-disgaea-4/720409

HURR DURR WHY ARE THERE MENUS READING IS TOO HARD AND THE GRAPHICS SUCK. THE STORY ALSO HAS CLICHES EVEN THOUGH IT'S SATIRICAL BUT THAT WORD IS TOO BIG FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.
lol, yeah. I saw that review. That was bad.
awp
News flash: Disgaea games are for Disgaea fans

more succinctly, Nippon Ichi games are for Nippon Ichi fans.
lukewarmholiday
The reviewer basically said, this is an SRPG, with an SRPG camera, and with a lot of depth to its SRPG elements so if you dont like SRPG's you wont like this game.

1-10 rating scales are stupid because the only things that qualify as 9-10 are 5 hour long ultra hyper streamlined games because they supposedly cater to everyone.

A large portion of great games this gen are mostly 8's and low 9's.
Pokebis
I don't understand why they attacked the difficulty and threw out the word complex all the time. I always thought Disgaea was one of the easiest, simpler SRPGs I've played.
foulcoon
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lukewarmholiday

Pokebis wrote:

I don't understand why they attacked the difficulty and threw out the word complex all the time. I always thought Disgaea was one of the easiest, simpler SRPGs I've played.

Some people don't know how easy it is to grind in this game, really I want to be an asshole to the reviewer but seriously what is the average gamer let alone SRPG player gonna think about disgaea if he doesn't know all the ass random mechanics and just how stupid damage gets in the game. He's gonna try to play it normally and tactically and suddenly a boss 20 levels up appears and beats his ass.
Pokebis
I never had this problem and I always did my first runs guideless. I always felt like the game held my hand, but maybe that's different elements than what other people perceive.
awp
Item World can be a bit vicious early-on, but overall the game is quite easy (until the Land of Carnage in Disgaea 3, anyway). Oh, some of the Dark World puzzles in D2 were really tough, too. Just a massive time-sink of pure joy.

I never use a guide when playing Disgaea games. I sometimes look at the Steal formula, but that's about it. I don't know whether to call it overwhelming or unnecessary, but I've never seen any value in it. I don't want maximized stats because they cap at 20 million, and I can figure out on my own how to break the 11th digit when doing damage.
foulcoon
shitty pic is shitty

LadySuburu

foulcoon wrote:

shitty pic is shitty
Nice.

I'm currently trying to continue holding #1 on the Map Editor rankings.
awp
I'm nearing the end of the main storyline, so I'm about halfway to a third through the game now.

It's really going up and down atm - the main plot is just dragging and dragging, but the infighting is occasionally quite enjoyable. D4's cast is rather decent. I mean, the gossip circle trio are kind of lame, but they bring out the best in Fenrich, so I wouldn't complain.
Haseo_old
Playing Disgaea 2 right now. Currently trying to gain Majin :D
awp
Majin were only really worthwhile in Disgaea 1, so don't bust your balls for them
adam2046
Restarted Afternoon of Darkness since I'm finally finished grieving my lost save file.
awp
I think Tera Star is my favourite spell so far

Saturn!?
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ampzz
Highly devastated.
My copy of Disgaea 4 has yet to arrive..
awp
yeesh and I've clocked like 45 hours on mine :<

Some pirates tried to gank me earlier today but they were level 45-ish and Desco was about 200 so she wasted them all
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ampzz
Any highly valuable initial characters that carry on through to main party use?
Azure_Kite

ampzz wrote:

Highly devastated.
My copy of Disgaea 4 has yet to arrive..

Same story here. Screw you, Australia.

EDIT: It arrived. Ha.
LadySuburu

ampzz wrote:

Any highly valuable initial characters that carry on through to main party use?
Generics? Not really.

Main characters? Most of them.
foulcoon
I'm on Episode 2 again, cycle 2. I don't want to talk about it LOL
awp

foulcoon wrote:

I'm on Episode 2 again, cycle 2. I don't want to talk about it LOL
wait did you do the thing cyclone did where you die in the battle against fuka

what's with you kids



on another note, I just fought Etna. I wasn't even half her level (nor her army's) but still won due to a superior strategy (the second time)

The resulting bitch-fest is awesome
LadySuburu

foulcoon wrote:

I'm on Episode 2 again, cycle 2. I don't want to talk about it LOL
I died to Emi there too. LOL.

Episode 2 kills everyone apperently.
Cyclone
It was emizel, not fuka. And as i said, i fucked up in a way that resulted in me losing all my useful people in like turn 2. Then i didn't realize that was a save screen instead of a load screen.
Ivalset
Jesus christ, forum full of bads.
Cyclone
It's ok, because after that i found out how OP heart cannon is.
foulcoon
I lost to fuka,not emizel. Also I'm at ep4 start, unable to play for a few days.
Bestelle
Oh hi, just got to Ep. 8. Not sure what level I should be, all I know is that my highest is a level 82 Fuka. She so pro.
lukewarmholiday
RL Link even though my senator voted no 4 times, the item you did give me turned into a feather token with an enforcer on it~
awp
Desco's better than Fuka

Just got to Laharl. I took down two of his minions but once he dual-wielded two Magichange Dragons his stats broke 6 digits and I was like yeah I'm not gonna win

my party averages about 1/5 of his minions levels so it was a bit much
lukewarmholiday
Were the main character evilities this crazy in D3?
LadySuburu

awp wrote:

Desco's better than Fuka
Yeah no.

Desco's amazing, but Fuka's even better. People just don't understand how to use her.
awp
Desco's evilities are so stacked. I get something like a 150% stat boost from her Evilities alone and her uniques are leagues better than Fuka's. I never used monster classes in any of the other Disgaea games but she's one of my favourite characters.

Not to mention it'll be nice to take advantage of Magichange with her around.
lukewarmholiday

awp wrote:

Desco's evilities are so stacked. I get something like a 150% stat boost from her Evilities alone and her uniques are leagues better than Fuka's. I never used monster classes in any of the other Disgaea games but she's one of my favourite characters.

Not to mention it'll be nice to take advantage of Magichange with her around.
I got my level 40 valvatorez in my first run up to about 5k attack on the avirus final map because of desco, I love desco.

Also apparently stat caps on weapons are fairly low(compared to what it would be if they werent capped) so fist weapons are the best weapons in the game because of the speed.(basically swords have a lot of spillover stats that get capped and arent used, while fists can hit the attack cap while having the speed)
Topic Starter
ampzz
Got my money back from the place I supposedly bought Disgaea 4 from which never showed up after a bit of emailing to and from...

Left with a decision I didn't bother with before: Do I get just the game by itself, or do I get the premium edition?
I can get the game for AU$57, premium for AU$65.

Anyone else get the premium edition?
awp
The soundtrack is great. If shipping wasn't like, 15 dollars, I would have pre-ordered it for that. Well, assuming I was clairvoyant and knew the soundtrack was that good. Since the premium edition also comes with the soundtrack, I'm tempted to recommend it. The figurine that comes with the premium is Fuka, right? She's probably my least favourite - next to that Thief Angel, perhaps - but eh, ymmv

I'd prefer a Flonne figurine, because Flonne is so awesome in Disgaea 4
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