Yeah, we need rolled to show up and tell us what he did.Chris wrote:
then again I'm not sure how bus driver falls into place in all of this
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I think that Lilac/LunaticMara/Pieguy all need to roleclaim. Most people are confirmed and they're the only ones left.LadySuburu wrote:
You got a result last night, and Two was killed. Although I am suspicious of foul right now be aware that he could have been roleblocked if the mafia has one, which would incriminate him. I had thought of that before night but felt like waiting to see kill results. If they did block foul, then foul's target was also mafia.
So at this point I'd belive they either have a roleblocker and Lilac is mafia, or don't and foul is anti-town.
It does bring an interesting question of who got roleblocked last night, though.
1.) LadySuburu - Town
2.) Chris - Town
3.) Rolled - Town?
4.) Lilac -
5.) rust45 - Town
6.) pieguy -
7.) foulcoon - Anti-Town?
8.) akrolsmir - Town
9.) bmin11 - Town
10.) LunaticMara -
11.) Mashley - Anti-Town
I wonder why mafias would rather roleblock foulcoon instead of Chris who clearly has a powerful role (confirmed two townies in a single night). Am I missing something?
The real question is why would Mafia roleblock foulcoon instead of akrolsmir, who killed Rantai last night?
It's all about gambles. They either save a mafia member and gamble that Chris's statement will be not too helpful, or they block chris and lose two mafia.bmin11 wrote:
I wonder why mafias would rather roleblock foulcoon instead of Chris who clearly has a powerful role (confirmed two townies in a single night). Am I missing something?
They also may be planning to try to put suspicion on Chris, which is something I forsee happening regardless.
@Chris - If Akrols and foul both targetted mafia, they protected the one with the better ability. If true, I'd assume Lilac is the roleblocker or Godfather (or related role.)
Lilac/LunaticMara/Pieguy all need to roleclaim, and soon.
Oh, just in case.
Vote: Lilac
Vote: Lilac
Adding DxS and Haneii are very likely to be lovers. DxS killing Haneii upon his death and Haneii vanishing with DxS with her death
EDIT: Scratch it. I just reread the lynch result
EDIT: Scratch it. I just reread the lynch result
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Shame on you.
I approve that. Avoiding without a post is suspicious, but I'm more interested on Lilac and foulcoon at the moment.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
LadySuburu, place your vote on foulcoon please.
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early. ^_^
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early. ^_^
I'm not doublevoting for a while. This vote is a placeholder in case something I suspect to happen happens.Chris wrote:
LadySuburu, place your vote on foulcoon please.
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early.
Also, I currently prefer a Lilac lynch to a Foulcoon lynch. However I need more information.
My second vote isn't tied to my main vote, so don't worry.
I still see him and pie. I don't see Mara.Chris wrote:
foulcoon stopped viewing the thread with no post.
Just came back, zzz.LadySuburu wrote:
I still see him and pie. I don't see Mara.Chris wrote:
foulcoon stopped viewing the thread with no post.
Gonna post a scenario in a minute, still trying to pan it all out
Not really, I was starting up TF2 when I clicked the thread. I didn't get any chance to read it, when screen turned black and went in TF2.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Anyways, I though I roleclaimed already.
Roleclaim: FisHie
When I chose FisHie, I was expecting to get a jester due he is always in tuuba (like me). But I got this boring townie role. (IMAD) My other two choices were UUSKA and Spidu - both really unknown in this community.
You have no abilities? .. cause thus far there have been 0 townies.LunaticMara wrote:
Not really, I was starting up TF2 when I clicked the thread. I didn't get any chance to read it, when screen turned black and went in TF2.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Anyways, I though I roleclaimed already.
Roleclaim: FisHie
But I got this boring townie role. (IMAD) .
I'm pretty positive I was roleblocked unless Rolled switched Two and Lilac which wouldn't make sense. I don't really need anymore information... Unless the mafia is smart enough to make Lilac and I both look scummy, then its safe to assume Lilac is mafia.
Vote: Lilac
Vote: Lilac
I'm pretty positive I was roleblockedIt's usually informed when you are roleblocked
True. Of course there is a chance I could be a miller or something.
But I really wanted to be that jester. Sucks.
But I really wanted to be that jester. Sucks.
foulcoon wrote:
I'm pretty positive I was roleblocked unless Rolled switched Two and Lilac which wouldn't make sense. I don't really need anymore information... Unless the mafia is smart enough to make Lilac and I both look scummy, then its safe to assume Lilac is mafia.
Vote: Lilac
or I got roleblocked but Rolled switched me + Mashley (only confirmed anti-town) and you killed Two.
@Chris
I received no pm from mod. :S
Only with an information based role.bmin11 wrote:
It's usually informed when you are roleblocked
still waiting on pieguy + Lilac to claim
foulcoon is serial killer imo, we really need to lynch him.
foulcoon is serial killer imo, we really need to lynch him.
how many times is pieguy gonna leave before he posts
LadySuburu wrote:
Only with an information based role.bmin11 wrote:
It's usually informed when you are roleblocked
Sorry, my bad (never been roleblocked before orz)foulcoon wrote:
I received no pm from mod. :S
foulcoon - Lilac case is really tangled up by WIFOM. I guess we would have to wait for Rolled as LS said.
I'm not leaving, I'm typing a long post. >.> (I was checking the thread again when I saw that)
I'll roleclaim now and make my long post later. roleclaim: Index-san I'm also just a regular townie.
I'll roleclaim now and make my long post later. roleclaim: Index-san I'm also just a regular townie.
I lol'd IRL.
I spent a long time trying to do an analysis of the possibilities right now only to realize that everything was just WIFOM, so I'll spare you all it. >.<
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and/or Lilac
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Yeah, basically this.pieguy1372 wrote:
I spent a long time trying to do an analysis of the possibilities right now only to realize that everything was just WIFOM, so I'll spare you all it. >.<
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
Let's get things straight here...
Roleclaim: Commuter As Hito, I'm not a very active member of the community, which is why I can choose to leave at any night. I left last night and hence I wasn't killed, nor did any other role that required me in town at night work.
Does that clear it up?
Roleclaim: Commuter As Hito, I'm not a very active member of the community, which is why I can choose to leave at any night. I left last night and hence I wasn't killed, nor did any other role that required me in town at night work.
Does that clear it up?
Oh wow, that's just too convenient... if it's true, we're back to square 1 on this whole issue
We do know there's a SK, or something like it, from adam2046 (Echo), however. If it's not foulcoon, then there's definitely a roleblocker. >.<
We do know there's a SK, or something like it, from adam2046 (Echo), however. If it's not foulcoon, then there's definitely a roleblocker. >.<
or leave the thread 30 minutes later with no answer 
I don't know... I'm thinking that no-one was roleblocked. Why ask me of all people?
It makes no sense for no one to have been roleblocked, so why would you think that?
Oh wait, you didn't get a result N2... If anything I think foul blocked you. Or pieguy, but more likely foul... Let me read more of the thread though... I'm as confused as you are.
That's interesting that you think I didn't get a result N2. Nice roleclaim.Lilac wrote:
Oh wait, you didn't get a result N2... If anything I think foul blocked you. Or pieguy, but more likely foul... Let me read more of the thread though... I'm as confused as you are.
inc game breaking post
So I didn't read the thread before posting. Give me a break, I'm even stealing my dad's iPhone to type this.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
You assumed I got no results because you knew that Mafia attempted to roleblock me.Lilac wrote:
So I didn't read the thread before posting. Give me a break, I'm even stealing my dad's iPhone to type this.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
lololol
You haven't answered me yet and no I don't know there's a roleblocker because I don't believe there's one.
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
You said this before I said that.Chris wrote:
It makes no sense for no one to have been roleblocked, so why would you think that?
What did I do to deserve this...?
I'm really not the roleblocker, Chris...
I'm really not the roleblocker, Chris...
This is what happened..
Mafia attempted to roleblock me to keep me from getting the results on akrolsmir & bmin11.
Rolled (Bus Driver) used his ability to negate the roleblock to Mashley. (confirmed anti-town)
Two used his ability to watch over me. (probably)
Foulcoon (SK) killed Wojjan.
Mafia killed Two.
akrolsmir killed Rantai.
Mafia killed Two to keep him from being able to see who roleblocked me, but Rolled used his ability to keep me from being roleblocked.
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Foulcoon is the serial killer.
Lilac is Mafia. (Roleblocker?)
pieguy is Mafia.
LunaticMara is Mafia.
Rantai is Mafia Threadlocker.
Mashley is Lyncher. (?)
Regardless the first one who has to go is the SERIAL KILLER, or we lose. Two town deaths a night is not good.
unvote, vote Foulcoon
Mafia attempted to roleblock me to keep me from getting the results on akrolsmir & bmin11.
Rolled (Bus Driver) used his ability to negate the roleblock to Mashley. (confirmed anti-town)
Two used his ability to watch over me. (probably)
Foulcoon (SK) killed Wojjan.
Mafia killed Two.
akrolsmir killed Rantai.
Mafia killed Two to keep him from being able to see who roleblocked me, but Rolled used his ability to keep me from being roleblocked.
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Foulcoon is the serial killer.
Lilac is Mafia. (Roleblocker?)
pieguy is Mafia.
LunaticMara is Mafia.
Rantai is Mafia Threadlocker.
Mashley is Lyncher. (?)
Regardless the first one who has to go is the SERIAL KILLER, or we lose. Two town deaths a night is not good.
unvote, vote Foulcoon
This has so many assumptions...
For one, would foul seriously have gone against Two's word and killed Wojjan? If he's SK, it wouldn't have mattered and would have killed me instead... at least attempt to.
Second, it's also assuming that Rolled actually swapped with you and Mash and not you and someone else.
I don't think it's wrong, I think it just hangs on a lot of circumstantial thoughts.
For one, would foul seriously have gone against Two's word and killed Wojjan? If he's SK, it wouldn't have mattered and would have killed me instead... at least attempt to.
Second, it's also assuming that Rolled actually swapped with you and Mash and not you and someone else.
I don't think it's wrong, I think it just hangs on a lot of circumstantial thoughts.
Please don't take my words out of context.
Look, not only did you set me up to put the roleblocker blame on me but you've also ignored the former question as to why you actually think you might have been roleblocked... What does Mashley even do at night? Pretty sure he can't NK people or something...
Oh wow, third circumstantial point.
Look, not only did you set me up to put the roleblocker blame on me but you've also ignored the former question as to why you actually think you might have been roleblocked... What does Mashley even do at night? Pretty sure he can't NK people or something...
Oh wow, third circumstantial point.
Actually, I've got a better way.
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
switched chris and mashley.
I decided to go with a safe bet rather than attempt to switch with a mafia.
I decided to go with a safe bet rather than attempt to switch with a mafia.
FoS pieguy and Mara
Why did you not claim D2, with the original mass roleclaim? Especially if you both are just vanilla town.
Speaking of that, I still need to comment on all that shit.
Regardless, it sounds to me like you were clueless D2, and decided n2 what to claim on d3.
Why did you not claim D2, with the original mass roleclaim? Especially if you both are just vanilla town.
Speaking of that, I still need to comment on all that shit.
Regardless, it sounds to me like you were clueless D2, and decided n2 what to claim on d3.
Lilac wrote:
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
This is not a confirmation, but it's likely to have one. Also, if there weren't a role blocker, they would have just NK'ed Chris. In this case, Mashley would have gotten NK'ed, which did not happened. What does this indicate? Mafia decided not to kill Chris and just role block him I bet.bmin11 wrote:
And because we only had a single NK, we may have a doctor. It would be reasonable to assume Mafia Roleblocker would also be present in that case.
So, Lilac, if you weren't lying about your role, what's your take on these events? That is, who do you think are mafia and the SK?
Right but my target has the ability to leave at night, so my action didn't work.Chris wrote:
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Also I said that I was pretty sure I got roleblocked, but I also said I never received any PM so I didn't know for sure.
How would I know? I don't have an ability.Lilac wrote:
Actually, I've got a better way.
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
akro: I think pieguy is Mafia but I'm beginning to think you are as well for some reason, probably on a very slight suspicion though.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
He could have targetted you as a vig, or a SK targetted others and said "I targetted Lilac, but I think I got roleblocked". This got complicated because we never knew of your ability to escape for a night. So, this is still WIFOM and there aren't a way to prove it I guess.Lilac wrote:
akro: I think pieguy is Mafia but I'm beginning to think you are as well for some reason, probably on a very slight suspicion though.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
Double posting. Sorry
In case you missed that outChris wrote:
akrolsmir + bmin11 are both pro-town.
Ignore the fact I left for the night then.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris? Was Two that important to have dead?
Also foul says he might have been roleblocked but I doubt there were two roleblockers. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Mara was SK because of how many FPS games him and Tuuba play.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris? Was Two that important to have dead?
Also foul says he might have been roleblocked but I doubt there were two roleblockers. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Mara was SK because of how many FPS games him and Tuuba play.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris?As I posted before, I bet they just role blocked him, because that's all it takes to silence him pretty much. However...
Was Two that important to have dead?Two was not the case like Chris. Two basically ran the scumhunting during D2. Role blocking would not be so effective against Two, so I bet they NK'ed him instead of Chris. It's one stone two birds for mafia.
EDIT:
and we never said foulcoon was definitely role blocked or anything. Actually, it's very slim as you said. I agree with Chris on foulcoon being the possible SK. It's easy for a SK to act like Vigilante. I also find myself hard to belive there would be two Vigilantes as well.
Before we even deal with any of this shit:
1. LadySuburu - Claimed strager/role thief
2. Mashley* - Claimed peppy/Lyncher
3. animask* Rolled - Claimed Rokodo/Bus Driver
4. Lilac - Hito/Commuter
5. rust45* - Claimed nothing
6. pieguy1372 - Claimed index-san/Vanilla
7. foulcoon - Claimed Ivalset/Night Vig
8. akrolsmir - Claimed sakura hana/3x One-Shot (cop/doc/vig)
9. Chris - Two/Lie detector
10. bmin11 - Daru/no description
11. LunaticMara - Claimed Fishie/Vanilla
Bmin, supply a description of your role.
Rust, fucking claim something you little weasel.
prod: Rust
Mod: 1 day extension due to osu being down?
1. LadySuburu - Claimed strager/role thief
2. Mashley* - Claimed peppy/Lyncher
3. animask* Rolled - Claimed Rokodo/Bus Driver
4. Lilac - Hito/Commuter
5. rust45* - Claimed nothing
6. pieguy1372 - Claimed index-san/Vanilla
7. foulcoon - Claimed Ivalset/Night Vig
8. akrolsmir - Claimed sakura hana/3x One-Shot (cop/doc/vig)
9. Chris - Two/Lie detector
10. bmin11 - Daru/no description
11. LunaticMara - Claimed Fishie/Vanilla
Bmin, supply a description of your role.
Rust, fucking claim something you little weasel.
prod: Rust
Mod: 1 day extension due to osu being down?
bmin, I see you lurking.
Claim something even though that will give the mafia more insight on the setup of the game and I'm already confirmed town? No thanks.
Anyway, I don't know why but I'm having trouble finding motivation in this game. I think I'm going to request replacement.
Anyway, I don't know why but I'm having trouble finding motivation in this game. I think I'm going to request replacement.
And what exactly confirms you are town?
I'm a 50% chance Detective. If I target the victim (NK'ed) of the night successfully, I'm able to draw the culprit's face. However, I only have 50% chance of doing so because of inconvinient reasons (probably indicating how Daru can't draw so often because of his real life =ㅅ=;;)
And I didn't lurk. I just didn't refresh in time and left the forum open. Sorry
I actually did see that, bmin. As soon as I posted the lurking thing, I saw you were no longer on the list.
Also, I like that post. This elaborate stories are hard to fake, and that is quite elaborate.
Rust, care to make up a story?
Also, I like that post. This elaborate stories are hard to fake, and that is quite elaborate.
Rust, care to make up a story?
Request: Modkill rust
We don't have any replacements.
Thank you for showing your disinterest rust, we may not need to take a night now to test Chris's sanity.
We don't have any replacements.
Thank you for showing your disinterest rust, we may not need to take a night now to test Chris's sanity.
The two vanilla claimers are both unconfirmed by chris, so it's possible (probable?) both are lying. I'm thinking there is at most one vanilla townie.
Given that chris is 1. not lying and 2. always right, that rolled is town busdriver for preventing chris's roleblock, and that mashley isn't lying about being a lyncher, our variables are:
Lilac
foulcoon
pieguy
Mara
Assuming a setup of 3 mafia for an 18 person game, along with the one known SK hanging around, three out of these four are anti-town who need to be lynched.
Possibilities:
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
That means foulcoon actually is a townie night vig, Lilac is probably the roleblocker. One of pieguy/Mara is scum, the other is the SK. In this scenario, lynch Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and Lilac
Lilac and foulcoon are both not lying about their roles. Problem is, then we don't have enough people to fill in the remaining 2 scum and 1 SK, so we're wrong about the setup entirely (lynch chris). Pretty unlikely.
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Lilac may or may not be scum, but foulcoon shot Wojjan instead. His reasoning being that if he were to do as to do as the town suggested to fake vig, after mafia were dead he'd be the first lynch target. If this is true obviously we lynch foulcoon.
4. foulcoon is lying and is mafia.
He's in cahoots with Lilac, so didn't shoot him. One of pieguy/Mara is SK, the other is actually a vanilla townie. Lynch either Lilac or foulcoon while chris investigates who the SK is.
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The safest lynch choice seems to be Lilac, though foulcoon brings the higher reward if he turns out to be SK.
Lilac, foulcoon: What do you think? Who is what and who should we lynch? If you don't respond then you know we'll be going after you first.
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Mod: I agree with the proposed 1-day extension.
Given that chris is 1. not lying and 2. always right, that rolled is town busdriver for preventing chris's roleblock, and that mashley isn't lying about being a lyncher, our variables are:
Lilac
foulcoon
pieguy
Mara
Assuming a setup of 3 mafia for an 18 person game, along with the one known SK hanging around, three out of these four are anti-town who need to be lynched.
Possibilities:
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
That means foulcoon actually is a townie night vig, Lilac is probably the roleblocker. One of pieguy/Mara is scum, the other is the SK. In this scenario, lynch Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and Lilac
Lilac and foulcoon are both not lying about their roles. Problem is, then we don't have enough people to fill in the remaining 2 scum and 1 SK, so we're wrong about the setup entirely (lynch chris). Pretty unlikely.
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Lilac may or may not be scum, but foulcoon shot Wojjan instead. His reasoning being that if he were to do as to do as the town suggested to fake vig, after mafia were dead he'd be the first lynch target. If this is true obviously we lynch foulcoon.
4. foulcoon is lying and is mafia.
He's in cahoots with Lilac, so didn't shoot him. One of pieguy/Mara is SK, the other is actually a vanilla townie. Lynch either Lilac or foulcoon while chris investigates who the SK is.
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The safest lynch choice seems to be Lilac, though foulcoon brings the higher reward if he turns out to be SK.
Lilac, foulcoon: What do you think? Who is what and who should we lynch? If you don't respond then you know we'll be going after you first.
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Mod: I agree with the proposed 1-day extension.
Keep in mind some people might be lying about their roles in their roleclaims. By pure elimination, assuming Chris is not lying, then we have Mashley, Rolled, Lilac, me, foulcoon, and LunaticMara. Mashley or Rolled could be lying and unless we use Chris, there's really no way to tell.
For now, I agree a Lilac or foulcoon lynch is safest.
For now, I agree a Lilac or foulcoon lynch is safest.
Topic Starter
Extending the deadline by 1 day.
I'll try to find a replacement for rust.
I'll try to find a replacement for rust.
Lilac and foulcoon posted their thoughts on eachother and said "Lilac (foulcoon) is scummy" and voted eachother. Scene 4 now seems to be unlikely.
Thinking back, there isn't a reason why foulcoon would NK Wojjan if he was the SK (unless both were mafia, which became a slim possibility because of their votes on eachother). It would have been much safer to just shoot Lilac and prove his innocent (as a Night Vig).
I'm willing to vote on Lilac now even thought the Commuter claim sounds fine
Vote: Lilac
Thinking back, there isn't a reason why foulcoon would NK Wojjan if he was the SK (unless both were mafia, which became a slim possibility because of their votes on eachother). It would have been much safer to just shoot Lilac and prove his innocent (as a Night Vig).
I'm willing to vote on Lilac now even thought the Commuter claim sounds fine
Vote: Lilac
We're assuming a lot of things here.
The first assumption that is being made (at least by akro) is that there's 3 mafia members total. 2 mafia is standard in a 9 man game, and this game had 18. We need to look out for 3 more mafia.
Another assumption is that Chris is sane, and I think that everybody should always at least have the thought in the back of their mind that he isn't. Don't rely every decision you make based on Chris's sanity.
That said, I feel like we can test his sanity relatively easy and not at the cost of any night actions. Rust's statements don't sit well with me at all. Is his role really that valuable that he will not even claim the person, while 17 other member's roles are aware? (or at least claimed)
Let's compare rust with animask. Both were disinterested in this game, however animask, with little to care about, claimed his role when prodded to do so. It didn't require any thinking, everybody else was doing it, and he planned on dropping out anyway, thus he claimed.
Rust also expresses disinterest, and wishes to be replaced (also note: animask requested modkill, rust requested replacement). The only difference is, he is not giving any information on his role. Is his role really that game breaking? Is there already not many powerhouse roles in this game that mafia can choose between when nighttime comes? If his role is that important, why does he not have any information for us by day 3?
I'm more certain now than ever that Chris is either insane/naive, and rust is mafia.
I believe a modkill is standard play when a player expresses disinterest, and no replacements are available? Perhaps faceman doesn't wish to do so, because it will be quite the game-changer (and his mafia teammates won't be too satisfied with him)
Also, just to clarify, rust is the only member of Chris's D2 results that has not yet be (nearly)confirmed. If we do lynch him, and he is mafia, this opens up the door for Chris tonight to give town more valuable information tomorrow.
With all of that said, vote: rust
The first assumption that is being made (at least by akro) is that there's 3 mafia members total. 2 mafia is standard in a 9 man game, and this game had 18. We need to look out for 3 more mafia.
Another assumption is that Chris is sane, and I think that everybody should always at least have the thought in the back of their mind that he isn't. Don't rely every decision you make based on Chris's sanity.
That said, I feel like we can test his sanity relatively easy and not at the cost of any night actions. Rust's statements don't sit well with me at all. Is his role really that valuable that he will not even claim the person, while 17 other member's roles are aware? (or at least claimed)
Let's compare rust with animask. Both were disinterested in this game, however animask, with little to care about, claimed his role when prodded to do so. It didn't require any thinking, everybody else was doing it, and he planned on dropping out anyway, thus he claimed.
Rust also expresses disinterest, and wishes to be replaced (also note: animask requested modkill, rust requested replacement). The only difference is, he is not giving any information on his role. Is his role really that game breaking? Is there already not many powerhouse roles in this game that mafia can choose between when nighttime comes? If his role is that important, why does he not have any information for us by day 3?
I'm more certain now than ever that Chris is either insane/naive, and rust is mafia.
I believe a modkill is standard play when a player expresses disinterest, and no replacements are available? Perhaps faceman doesn't wish to do so, because it will be quite the game-changer (and his mafia teammates won't be too satisfied with him)
Also, just to clarify, rust is the only member of Chris's D2 results that has not yet be (nearly)confirmed. If we do lynch him, and he is mafia, this opens up the door for Chris tonight to give town more valuable information tomorrow.
With all of that said, vote: rust
And also, as far as I'm concerned, foulcoon hasn't proved anything to us thus far. The only reason he is alive right now is because he agreed to shoot Lilac last night.
Even if Lilac is telling the truth about the Hito thing, Hito is a fucking BAT. I can't name any other BAT more corrupt than her, either.
If that isn't the case, perhaps they're both lying and aligned together. I'd like to propose that Foulcoon shoots Lilac n3. If it wasn't for your previous actions Lilac, then I'm sure foulcoon would have never been told to shoot you N2, so there's obviously scumtells there. Same goes for foulcoon, as he was nearly lynched as well. You need to prove your innocence before it's too late.
Even if Lilac is telling the truth about the Hito thing, Hito is a fucking BAT. I can't name any other BAT more corrupt than her, either.
If that isn't the case, perhaps they're both lying and aligned together. I'd like to propose that Foulcoon shoots Lilac n3. If it wasn't for your previous actions Lilac, then I'm sure foulcoon would have never been told to shoot you N2, so there's obviously scumtells there. Same goes for foulcoon, as he was nearly lynched as well. You need to prove your innocence before it's too late.
I couldn't find anything to point out from Rolled's first post. I wasn't so willing to test Chris's insanity because of his N2 resuly (calling akros and me pro-town while akros proved his innocent), but now it sounds like we may need to test Chris's sanity because of rust45's and 0_o behaviour. I'm willing to participate on this test with a vote.
Unvote, Vote: rust45
Unvote, Vote: rust45
For the second post (sorry for double posting by the way), we may have to ask the mod before doing it because
Theoretically, if foulcoon was not allowed to shoot his gun for a night, he would still have the bullet on the next night. Right, faceman? ^_^
It doesn't seem like foulcoon''s a x-shot vig, though, just based on his wording I'd think he can act every night.
I don't think rust is mafia, and since the other 5/6 chris confirmed are pretty likely to be town anyways I think lynching rust is a waste of a day. I mostly see his claims at face value. Also, why go for him, who may or may not be scum, when we have people like Lilac and foulcoon who are much more shady? If anything I'd want to lynch Lilac and ask foulcoon to shoot rust, instead.
I still absolutely advocate lynching chris in 3 (well, 2, now) days to check his sanity, though.
I don't think rust is mafia, and since the other 5/6 chris confirmed are pretty likely to be town anyways I think lynching rust is a waste of a day. I mostly see his claims at face value. Also, why go for him, who may or may not be scum, when we have people like Lilac and foulcoon who are much more shady? If anything I'd want to lynch Lilac and ask foulcoon to shoot rust, instead.
I still absolutely advocate lynching chris in 3 (well, 2, now) days to check his sanity, though.
There's several reasons I prefer foulcoon shooting lilac as opposed to rust. One of them being, we can prove Chris's (in)sanity during the day phase, and he can consider it during the night.
Are you telling me you don't see anything peculiar about rust refusing to claim after everybody else as? Or at least bullshitting a claim. I do believe he has lost interest in this game, and faking a claim requires a lot of thought and effort given this game's setup.
And do you know something about Chris that we don't? I mean, you claim to have one shot doc and cop. Have you put them to use yet?
I don't think lynching Chris should be much of an option anymore, especially with my opinion on Rust. Do you realize how much WIFOM could be used with this whole situation? Also, if Chris does happen to be insane or even naive, how threatening is he to mafia? Why would mafia NK him?
We need to focus on more threatening people. I know for a fact Chris can't come up with some shit like this, especially since Two is confirmed town.
Are you telling me you don't see anything peculiar about rust refusing to claim after everybody else as? Or at least bullshitting a claim. I do believe he has lost interest in this game, and faking a claim requires a lot of thought and effort given this game's setup.
And do you know something about Chris that we don't? I mean, you claim to have one shot doc and cop. Have you put them to use yet?
I don't think lynching Chris should be much of an option anymore, especially with my opinion on Rust. Do you realize how much WIFOM could be used with this whole situation? Also, if Chris does happen to be insane or even naive, how threatening is he to mafia? Why would mafia NK him?
We need to focus on more threatening people. I know for a fact Chris can't come up with some shit like this, especially since Two is confirmed town.
Lilac's reason for why my shot didn't work is a good enough explanation for me. If you guys want me to shoot him tonight I have no problem doing so. Who would be the lynch target then, rust? I'm not 100% comfortable with lynching someone "confirmed" to be town from Chris. I do understand that both of Chris' results so far have been True, so its entirely possible that he is just naive.
Of course I picked the best color of green.
and to make this post of some substance for double posting, I would agree to lynching rust as he has lost interest in the game and Rolled's argument is strong.
and to make this post of some substance for double posting, I would agree to lynching rust as he has lost interest in the game and Rolled's argument is strong.
I don't necessarily think Lilac is lying with the commuter claim, although lying is a possibility and some combination of roleblocking hoopty joop occurred (assuming Lilac is mafia)
I find it equally possible Lilac is telling the truth about the ability, however not about his alignment. As far as I can tell, his ability isn't far from just being one-shot bulletproof. And quite a few members (up to 3, though doubtful) have bullets.
I find it equally possible Lilac is telling the truth about the ability, however not about his alignment. As far as I can tell, his ability isn't far from just being one-shot bulletproof. And quite a few members (up to 3, though doubtful) have bullets.
And a one-shot bulletproof mafia member is not too uncommon.
There are a few reasons I don't want to ask foulcoon to shoot Lilac. One, he might just be bulletproof always, in which case there's no point. Two, he might actually be telling the truth in which case he'd just leave again tonight. Three, you're asking somebody suspicious to eliminate somebody else suspicious... if the reason it failed last time was that they were in collaboration a repeat would occur.
Basically, we tried it last night, it didn't work out so well last night, and there's no reason it'd work out any better tonight, unless you're 100% sure that he's one-shot bulletproof (which I personally disbelieve). That's why I think we should just lynch Lilac ourselves (or foulcoon if you are so inclined).
Basically, we tried it last night, it didn't work out so well last night, and there's no reason it'd work out any better tonight, unless you're 100% sure that he's one-shot bulletproof (which I personally disbelieve). That's why I think we should just lynch Lilac ourselves (or foulcoon if you are so inclined).
but I agree targetting someone else could be an option. So.... lets make foulcoon to kill rust45 then?
No, rust needs to be lynched as long as we plan on killing him. That gives Chris some more knowledge about his role before taking night actions.
And okay, I can't really say I'm appalled to foulcoon shooting somebody other than Lilac. I'd suggest one of the Vanilla claimers. Preferably Mara since I feel it would be pretty funny if he actually is mafia. It's almost too easy with this post:
I will note that in the same post, he made an (almost unnatural) effort to point out his choices for PyP weren't very known in the community. It would be much harder to claim a role like Vanilla if you'd end up being peppy, or somebody similar.
And okay, I can't really say I'm appalled to foulcoon shooting somebody other than Lilac. I'd suggest one of the Vanilla claimers. Preferably Mara since I feel it would be pretty funny if he actually is mafia. It's almost too easy with this post:
But that's not the only suspicious thing Mara has done thus far, and hopefully I don't need to point them out. Not entirely sure how Mara has remained pretty under the radar.LunaticMara wrote:
When I chose FisHie, I was expecting to get a jester due he is always in tuuba (like me). But I got this boring townie role. (IMAD)
I will note that in the same post, he made an (almost unnatural) effort to point out his choices for PyP weren't very known in the community. It would be much harder to claim a role like Vanilla if you'd end up being peppy, or somebody similar.
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I dunno about what's "standard," but I consider a modkill to be the last resort.Rolled wrote:
I believe a modkill is standard play when a player expresses disinterest, and no replacements are available?
If I can't find anyone to replace in the next 24 hours, then I'll make the modkill.
Man, holy shit. osu! were out REALLY long time. At least we got that 1 day extension. DLC for £60.
Simply because I aimed to get FisHie. I didn't want anyone else, so I used really unknown people too in my list. Is there a reason why I shouldn't be telling the fact? And peppy? Oh you. I am not really sure what are you trying to say in there, but I guess it's just Rolled. Eat some potatoes, boy.Rolled wrote:
I will note that in the same post, he made an (almost unnatural) effort to point out his choices for PyP weren't very known in the community. It would be much harder to claim a role like Vanilla if you'd end up being peppy, or somebody similar.
LunaticMara: Do you think pieguy is telling the truth about being Vanilla Town?
Pieguy: Do you think LunaticMara is telling the truth about being Vanilla Town?
Pieguy: Do you think LunaticMara is telling the truth about being Vanilla Town?
I am not really sure, mate. I haven't really trusted pieguy in this game, but Index-San looks like a townie.
I haven't really trusted pieguyYou may explain that to start with
I'm interested on why pieguy would have picked Index-San as well. I haven't heard of him so ofen (no offence). Maybe because of my inactivity idk
Sure thing, once I get in my workplace (in 1,5 hours).bmin11 wrote:
You may explain that to start with
Maybe, but as I said before I was already suspicious of him in the first place, and considering it's quite easy to lie about being a townie, this makes it more likely he's mafia IMO.Rolled wrote:
Pieguy: Do you think LunaticMara is telling the truth about being Vanilla Town?
We were both in the same mafia game at one point. Actually, I only picked him because I wanted to be an anime character (inb4 you rage at me). My 3 choices were Index-san, Saten-san, and Hentai (just for the fun of it).bmin11 wrote:
I'm interested on why pieguy would have picked Index-San as well. I haven't heard of him so ofen (no offence). Maybe because of my inactivity idk
tl;dr
Wouldn't it be quite wrong to expect to be an anime character in PyP osu! Community?
Wouldn't it be quite wrong to expect to be an anime character in PyP osu! Community?
By that, I meant having a username of an anime character. >.<//
That really doesn't make any sense IMO. Anyways, I'll start writing stuff once I get this one PC handled.
I need to do some stuff in here, so I'll just do this really quick.
Here's what I think at the moment:
LadySuburu - I don't know about this guy. Pro-town, I guess.
Mashley - This guy has already said that he is a lyncher. He may lie, but since there is strager around, I can believe in Mashley.
Rolled - Dunno man. Stay in the bus and do stuff. Totally pro-town.
Lilac - I trust this man is 100% pro-town. But why Hito..?
rust45 - Well, I guess you're getting modkilled soon so I don't care.
pieguy1372 - "Just a gut feeling" that he's a mafia. But we'll find that out soon. That anime nickname thing was so random that I don't know man... STOP MAKING ME CONFUSED.
foulcoon - Mafia?
akrolsmir - Claimed to be Sakura Hana - What powers have you used and to who?
Chris - Lie detector, but is he sane? I know there was a huge converstation about that few pages ago, but there is always a risk. But for now I don't see a reason to not trusting Chris.
bmin11 - How is this 50% chance working? Is 0_o just throwing the dice or something? Anyway, I'll trust you. And cute avatar. It makes me go HHHNNNNGGG when I write this post.
Chris, suggestion for the next night: LunaticMara and pieguy are both townies.
Here's what I think at the moment:
LadySuburu - I don't know about this guy. Pro-town, I guess.
Mashley - This guy has already said that he is a lyncher. He may lie, but since there is strager around, I can believe in Mashley.
Rolled - Dunno man. Stay in the bus and do stuff. Totally pro-town.
Lilac - I trust this man is 100% pro-town. But why Hito..?
rust45 - Well, I guess you're getting modkilled soon so I don't care.
pieguy1372 - "Just a gut feeling" that he's a mafia. But we'll find that out soon. That anime nickname thing was so random that I don't know man... STOP MAKING ME CONFUSED.
foulcoon - Mafia?
akrolsmir - Claimed to be Sakura Hana - What powers have you used and to who?
Chris - Lie detector, but is he sane? I know there was a huge converstation about that few pages ago, but there is always a risk. But for now I don't see a reason to not trusting Chris.
bmin11 - How is this 50% chance working? Is 0_o just throwing the dice or something? Anyway, I'll trust you. And cute avatar. It makes me go HHHNNNNGGG when I write this post.
Chris, suggestion for the next night: LunaticMara and pieguy are both townies.