Just saw an ambiguity. By "vig shot" I mean "My own one-shot ability as a vigilante".
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Topic Starter
Time's up.
Final Vote Count
Haneii (4) pieguy Rolled akrolsmir LadySuburu
foulcoon (1) Two
akrolsmir (1) foulcoon
Eating now, I'll put the death scene up in an hour or two.
Final Vote Count
Haneii (4) pieguy Rolled akrolsmir LadySuburu
foulcoon (1) Two
akrolsmir (1) foulcoon
Eating now, I'll put the death scene up in an hour or two.
I don't actually know- that didn't occur to me. I'll ask the mod, but probably just do one or the risk of being roleblocked goes up.LadySuburu wrote:
If you can do both the same night, cool. If not, stick to shooting.
By the number of NKs I thought. Well this will also put akrolsmir under possible SK list, but I think we can think about that later. I'm not thinking too critically at all right now (not even considering WIFOM at the moment)Two wrote:
how would it be obvious when his target is the same and the death message is the same
I also want to keep foulcoon for now and see Lilac's alignment, because gut is saying mafia
I always miss deadlines
what the fuck is wrong with you
Claimed BATGMT =/= BAT
Wojjan
what the fuck is wrong with you
mod: can we get the order in which night actions are handled? Obviously Busdrive-Roleblock-Doc-Kill-Other shit but is there a predetermined kill order? Or is that classified?
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Loginer
^ that confused me. Sorry
^ that confused me. Sorry
Holy crap, I was at school all day and I came home having to read ten new pages. And now it's too late to vote.
I woke up a moment ago D:
0_o wrote:
Eating now, I'll put the death scene up in an hour or two.
(3 hours ago)
Final Vote Count
Haneii (4) pieguy Rolled akrolsmir LadySuburu
foulcoon (1) Two
akrolsmir (1) foulcoon
#modhelp
The discussion was heated. Generally the channel only gets this active after a map unrank, but today there was something even more interesting to discuss: the mysterious banning of Echo and mm201, two of osu!'s most trusted developers.
It seemed to be the perfect place to catch a few BATs, as it's quite the popular hangout for red names, but the screen was nothing but orange and yellow today. It wasn't too long before the chat spiraled completely out of control - people were throwing accusations left and right.
Suddenly
<Haneii>: QUIT SPAMMING BEFORE I MODERATE THE CHANNEL
"...wait, Haneii is red? He must be one of the corrupt BATs!"
"What? No, I'm Shinxyn and I'm not with those other guys! Just ask my sister Cheery!"
Sure enough, Cheery appeared on the IRC user list, but her last message was quite a while ago. The room went silent for a minute to see if Cheery had anything to say, but nothing ever showed up.
"He's lying! Ban him!"
Before anyone could do anything though, a message popped up
<BanchoBot>: Hey guys I'm adding a ban for "*@70.98.28.47" (DeathxShinigami) they were going to say "Shinxyn is my brother don't ban him! He would never join all those corrupt BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
Both DeathxShinigami and Haneii disappeared from the user list.
Haneii (Shinxyn) - Sibling - Lynched Day 2
DeathxShinigami (Cheery) - Sibling - Role Required Death
It is now Night 2. Night will end in 48 hours, please send all night actions before then (you may send them to either 0_o or myself)
Actions are handled as described in Natural Action Resolution on mafiascum wiki. Of specific note:Wojjan wrote:
mod: can we get the order in which night actions are handled? Obviously Busdrive-Roleblock-Doc-Kill-Other shit but is there a predetermined kill order? Or is that classified?
Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player. (Imagine that all kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.)(Obviously a person already dead before the night can't use actions)
WAKE ME WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE
DA DA DUM
DA DA DUM
Topic Starter
Morning arrived. Another wonderful rhythm-filled day! To everyone's pleasant surprise, it seemed like everybody survived the night!
Except three of you.
It took a while to notice, but Quaraezha was nowhere to be seen. After a bit of following up you found out that he had a habit of quietly watching users at night, in a completely not creepy way at all. However after the tragic posting accident the day before, he chose to sit away from the computer that night to console himself. Had he been paying attention, maybe he would have noticed his desktop pixelating into a undecipherable blob of squares.
He wasn't, though.
Two (Quaraezha) - Watcher - Nightkilled N2
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Meanwhile, in General Discussion, a user whose name consisted of 23 seemingly random numbers was spamming threads every 60 seconds, with topics such as how Naruto is THE BETS AMINE EVRRRR, and how the administration should perform fellatio on him.
Then Loginer appeared.
"I think that's enough of that." With a smile and a tilt of his top hat, he swung his mighty Banhammer at unscrupulous spammer, rendering him incapacitated. "You sir, aren't doing anything tonight."
And neither are you.
The voice came from behind him; Loginer turned around, but saw no one. However, his head felt unusually... bare. He put his hands to his head, and in horror he felt his uncovered hair. "WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY HAT??" He bolted out of his room and saw a figure wearing his beloved top hat running down the stairs. He pursued the culprit out the door, to see him getting on a motorcycle. Loginer lunged at him, but he accelerated just in time, leaving Loginer facedown on his driveway. He looked up as the hat thief disappeared into the night.
"Nobody. Takes. The. Hat." Loginer jumped into his car and drove off, in search of his lost companion.
He won't be online for a while.
Wojjan (Loginer) - Jailkeeper - Nightkilled N2
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Meanwhile, in the horrible, unspoken depths of osu! known as the Abandoned Wasteland, Ephemeral sat admiring his work. "Locked and Wastelanded"; he uttered the phrase countless times and it still gives him chills each time he uses it. Every day his collection of crap - and sometimes not so crappy - closed threads grows bigger and bigger. "Today the Wasteland... tomorrow the forums!!" He took a brief moment to think about how exactly he would go about that transition, then went to visit General Discussion.. except the link directed him back to the Wasteland. Puzzled, he clicked his Home button. Abandoned Wasteland. He typed google.com into the address bar. Abondoned Wasteland.
It appeared... that someone locked him in his own wasteland.
"No...
...No...
Rantai (Ephemeral) - Threadlocker (aka Executioner) - Nightkilled N2
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It is now Day 3. With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. You have exactly 4 days from this post.
I've gotta start doing shorter stories >_>
Except three of you.
It took a while to notice, but Quaraezha was nowhere to be seen. After a bit of following up you found out that he had a habit of quietly watching users at night, in a completely not creepy way at all. However after the tragic posting accident the day before, he chose to sit away from the computer that night to console himself. Had he been paying attention, maybe he would have noticed his desktop pixelating into a undecipherable blob of squares.
He wasn't, though.
Two (Quaraezha) - Watcher - Nightkilled N2
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Meanwhile, in General Discussion, a user whose name consisted of 23 seemingly random numbers was spamming threads every 60 seconds, with topics such as how Naruto is THE BETS AMINE EVRRRR, and how the administration should perform fellatio on him.
Then Loginer appeared.
"I think that's enough of that." With a smile and a tilt of his top hat, he swung his mighty Banhammer at unscrupulous spammer, rendering him incapacitated. "You sir, aren't doing anything tonight."
And neither are you.
The voice came from behind him; Loginer turned around, but saw no one. However, his head felt unusually... bare. He put his hands to his head, and in horror he felt his uncovered hair. "WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY HAT??" He bolted out of his room and saw a figure wearing his beloved top hat running down the stairs. He pursued the culprit out the door, to see him getting on a motorcycle. Loginer lunged at him, but he accelerated just in time, leaving Loginer facedown on his driveway. He looked up as the hat thief disappeared into the night.
"Nobody. Takes. The. Hat." Loginer jumped into his car and drove off, in search of his lost companion.
He won't be online for a while.
Wojjan (Loginer) - Jailkeeper - Nightkilled N2
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Meanwhile, in the horrible, unspoken depths of osu! known as the Abandoned Wasteland, Ephemeral sat admiring his work. "Locked and Wastelanded"; he uttered the phrase countless times and it still gives him chills each time he uses it. Every day his collection of crap - and sometimes not so crappy - closed threads grows bigger and bigger. "Today the Wasteland... tomorrow the forums!!" He took a brief moment to think about how exactly he would go about that transition, then went to visit General Discussion.. except the link directed him back to the Wasteland. Puzzled, he clicked his Home button. Abandoned Wasteland. He typed google.com into the address bar. Abondoned Wasteland.
It appeared... that someone locked him in his own wasteland.
"No...
...No...
Rantai (Ephemeral) - Threadlocker (aka Executioner) - Nightkilled N2
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It is now Day 3. With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. You have exactly 4 days from this post.
I've gotta start doing shorter stories >_>
Nuuuuu
Have fun all XD
I like your stories though.
Have fun all XD
I like your stories though.
Did you get a result last night?Chris wrote:
vote: foulcoon
akrolsmir + bmin11 are both pro-town.LadySuburu wrote:
Did you get a result last night?Chris wrote:
vote: foulcoon
gonna do sanity test tonight just to confirm everything.
foulcoon killed Two
Mafia killed Wojjan
akrolsmir killed Rantai
^ I think.
then again I'm not sure how bus driver falls into place in all of this
You got a result last night, and Two was killed. Although I am suspicious of foul right now be aware that he could have been roleblocked if the mafia has one, which would incriminate him. I had thought of that before night but felt like waiting to see kill results. If they did block foul, then foul's target was also mafia.Chris wrote:
akrolsmir + bmin11 are both pro-town.
gonna do sanity test tonight just to confirm everything.
foulcoon killed Two
Mafia killed Wojjan
akrolsmir killed Rantai
So at this point I'd belive they either have a roleblocker and Lilac is mafia, or don't and foul is anti-town.
Yeah, we need rolled to show up and tell us what he did.Chris wrote:
then again I'm not sure how bus driver falls into place in all of this
I think that Lilac/LunaticMara/Pieguy all need to roleclaim. Most people are confirmed and they're the only ones left.LadySuburu wrote:
You got a result last night, and Two was killed. Although I am suspicious of foul right now be aware that he could have been roleblocked if the mafia has one, which would incriminate him. I had thought of that before night but felt like waiting to see kill results. If they did block foul, then foul's target was also mafia.
So at this point I'd belive they either have a roleblocker and Lilac is mafia, or don't and foul is anti-town.
It does bring an interesting question of who got roleblocked last night, though.
1.) LadySuburu - Town
2.) Chris - Town
3.) Rolled - Town?
4.) Lilac -
5.) rust45 - Town
6.) pieguy -
7.) foulcoon - Anti-Town?
8.) akrolsmir - Town
9.) bmin11 - Town
10.) LunaticMara -
11.) Mashley - Anti-Town
I wonder why mafias would rather roleblock foulcoon instead of Chris who clearly has a powerful role (confirmed two townies in a single night). Am I missing something?
The real question is why would Mafia roleblock foulcoon instead of akrolsmir, who killed Rantai last night?
It's all about gambles. They either save a mafia member and gamble that Chris's statement will be not too helpful, or they block chris and lose two mafia.bmin11 wrote:
I wonder why mafias would rather roleblock foulcoon instead of Chris who clearly has a powerful role (confirmed two townies in a single night). Am I missing something?
They also may be planning to try to put suspicion on Chris, which is something I forsee happening regardless.
@Chris - If Akrols and foul both targetted mafia, they protected the one with the better ability. If true, I'd assume Lilac is the roleblocker or Godfather (or related role.)
Lilac/LunaticMara/Pieguy all need to roleclaim, and soon.
Oh, just in case.
Vote: Lilac
Vote: Lilac
Adding DxS and Haneii are very likely to be lovers. DxS killing Haneii upon his death and Haneii vanishing with DxS with her death
EDIT: Scratch it. I just reread the lynch result
EDIT: Scratch it. I just reread the lynch result
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Shame on you.
I approve that. Avoiding without a post is suspicious, but I'm more interested on Lilac and foulcoon at the moment.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
LadySuburu, place your vote on foulcoon please.
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early. ^_^
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early. ^_^
I'm not doublevoting for a while. This vote is a placeholder in case something I suspect to happen happens.Chris wrote:
LadySuburu, place your vote on foulcoon please.
I don't want you to double vote on someone too early.
Also, I currently prefer a Lilac lynch to a Foulcoon lynch. However I need more information.
My second vote isn't tied to my main vote, so don't worry.
I still see him and pie. I don't see Mara.Chris wrote:
foulcoon stopped viewing the thread with no post.
Just came back, zzz.LadySuburu wrote:
I still see him and pie. I don't see Mara.Chris wrote:
foulcoon stopped viewing the thread with no post.
Gonna post a scenario in a minute, still trying to pan it all out
Not really, I was starting up TF2 when I clicked the thread. I didn't get any chance to read it, when screen turned black and went in TF2.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Anyways, I though I roleclaimed already.
Roleclaim: FisHie
When I chose FisHie, I was expecting to get a jester due he is always in tuuba (like me). But I got this boring townie role. (IMAD) My other two choices were UUSKA and Spidu - both really unknown in this community.
You have no abilities? .. cause thus far there have been 0 townies.LunaticMara wrote:
Not really, I was starting up TF2 when I clicked the thread. I didn't get any chance to read it, when screen turned black and went in TF2.Chris wrote:
LunaticMara was just viewing the thread, and then left without a post.
Shame on you.
Anyways, I though I roleclaimed already.
Roleclaim: FisHie
But I got this boring townie role. (IMAD) .
I'm pretty positive I was roleblocked unless Rolled switched Two and Lilac which wouldn't make sense. I don't really need anymore information... Unless the mafia is smart enough to make Lilac and I both look scummy, then its safe to assume Lilac is mafia.
Vote: Lilac
Vote: Lilac
I'm pretty positive I was roleblockedIt's usually informed when you are roleblocked
True. Of course there is a chance I could be a miller or something.
But I really wanted to be that jester. Sucks.
But I really wanted to be that jester. Sucks.
foulcoon wrote:
I'm pretty positive I was roleblocked unless Rolled switched Two and Lilac which wouldn't make sense. I don't really need anymore information... Unless the mafia is smart enough to make Lilac and I both look scummy, then its safe to assume Lilac is mafia.
Vote: Lilac
or I got roleblocked but Rolled switched me + Mashley (only confirmed anti-town) and you killed Two.
@Chris
I received no pm from mod. :S
Only with an information based role.bmin11 wrote:
It's usually informed when you are roleblocked
still waiting on pieguy + Lilac to claim
foulcoon is serial killer imo, we really need to lynch him.
foulcoon is serial killer imo, we really need to lynch him.
how many times is pieguy gonna leave before he posts
LadySuburu wrote:
Only with an information based role.bmin11 wrote:
It's usually informed when you are roleblocked
Sorry, my bad (never been roleblocked before orz)foulcoon wrote:
I received no pm from mod. :S
foulcoon - Lilac case is really tangled up by WIFOM. I guess we would have to wait for Rolled as LS said.
I'm not leaving, I'm typing a long post. >.> (I was checking the thread again when I saw that)
I'll roleclaim now and make my long post later. roleclaim: Index-san I'm also just a regular townie.
I'll roleclaim now and make my long post later. roleclaim: Index-san I'm also just a regular townie.
I lol'd IRL.
I spent a long time trying to do an analysis of the possibilities right now only to realize that everything was just WIFOM, so I'll spare you all it. >.<
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and/or Lilac
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Yeah, basically this.pieguy1372 wrote:
I spent a long time trying to do an analysis of the possibilities right now only to realize that everything was just WIFOM, so I'll spare you all it. >.<
With that in mind, I agree that the best possibility right now is to wait for Rolled.
Let's get things straight here...
Roleclaim: Commuter As Hito, I'm not a very active member of the community, which is why I can choose to leave at any night. I left last night and hence I wasn't killed, nor did any other role that required me in town at night work.
Does that clear it up?
Roleclaim: Commuter As Hito, I'm not a very active member of the community, which is why I can choose to leave at any night. I left last night and hence I wasn't killed, nor did any other role that required me in town at night work.
Does that clear it up?
Oh wow, that's just too convenient... if it's true, we're back to square 1 on this whole issue
We do know there's a SK, or something like it, from adam2046 (Echo), however. If it's not foulcoon, then there's definitely a roleblocker. >.<
We do know there's a SK, or something like it, from adam2046 (Echo), however. If it's not foulcoon, then there's definitely a roleblocker. >.<
or leave the thread 30 minutes later with no answer 
I don't know... I'm thinking that no-one was roleblocked. Why ask me of all people?
It makes no sense for no one to have been roleblocked, so why would you think that?
Oh wait, you didn't get a result N2... If anything I think foul blocked you. Or pieguy, but more likely foul... Let me read more of the thread though... I'm as confused as you are.
That's interesting that you think I didn't get a result N2. Nice roleclaim.Lilac wrote:
Oh wait, you didn't get a result N2... If anything I think foul blocked you. Or pieguy, but more likely foul... Let me read more of the thread though... I'm as confused as you are.
inc game breaking post
So I didn't read the thread before posting. Give me a break, I'm even stealing my dad's iPhone to type this.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
You assumed I got no results because you knew that Mafia attempted to roleblock me.Lilac wrote:
So I didn't read the thread before posting. Give me a break, I'm even stealing my dad's iPhone to type this.
What makes you think someone got roleblocked because I don't understand you anymore.
lololol
You haven't answered me yet and no I don't know there's a roleblocker because I don't believe there's one.
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
You said this before I said that.Chris wrote:
It makes no sense for no one to have been roleblocked, so why would you think that?
What did I do to deserve this...?
I'm really not the roleblocker, Chris...
I'm really not the roleblocker, Chris...
This is what happened..
Mafia attempted to roleblock me to keep me from getting the results on akrolsmir & bmin11.
Rolled (Bus Driver) used his ability to negate the roleblock to Mashley. (confirmed anti-town)
Two used his ability to watch over me. (probably)
Foulcoon (SK) killed Wojjan.
Mafia killed Two.
akrolsmir killed Rantai.
Mafia killed Two to keep him from being able to see who roleblocked me, but Rolled used his ability to keep me from being roleblocked.
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Foulcoon is the serial killer.
Lilac is Mafia. (Roleblocker?)
pieguy is Mafia.
LunaticMara is Mafia.
Rantai is Mafia Threadlocker.
Mashley is Lyncher. (?)
Regardless the first one who has to go is the SERIAL KILLER, or we lose. Two town deaths a night is not good.
unvote, vote Foulcoon
Mafia attempted to roleblock me to keep me from getting the results on akrolsmir & bmin11.
Rolled (Bus Driver) used his ability to negate the roleblock to Mashley. (confirmed anti-town)
Two used his ability to watch over me. (probably)
Foulcoon (SK) killed Wojjan.
Mafia killed Two.
akrolsmir killed Rantai.
Mafia killed Two to keep him from being able to see who roleblocked me, but Rolled used his ability to keep me from being roleblocked.
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Foulcoon is the serial killer.
Lilac is Mafia. (Roleblocker?)
pieguy is Mafia.
LunaticMara is Mafia.
Rantai is Mafia Threadlocker.
Mashley is Lyncher. (?)
Regardless the first one who has to go is the SERIAL KILLER, or we lose. Two town deaths a night is not good.
unvote, vote Foulcoon
This has so many assumptions...
For one, would foul seriously have gone against Two's word and killed Wojjan? If he's SK, it wouldn't have mattered and would have killed me instead... at least attempt to.
Second, it's also assuming that Rolled actually swapped with you and Mash and not you and someone else.
I don't think it's wrong, I think it just hangs on a lot of circumstantial thoughts.
For one, would foul seriously have gone against Two's word and killed Wojjan? If he's SK, it wouldn't have mattered and would have killed me instead... at least attempt to.
Second, it's also assuming that Rolled actually swapped with you and Mash and not you and someone else.
I don't think it's wrong, I think it just hangs on a lot of circumstantial thoughts.
Please don't take my words out of context.
Look, not only did you set me up to put the roleblocker blame on me but you've also ignored the former question as to why you actually think you might have been roleblocked... What does Mashley even do at night? Pretty sure he can't NK people or something...
Oh wow, third circumstantial point.
Look, not only did you set me up to put the roleblocker blame on me but you've also ignored the former question as to why you actually think you might have been roleblocked... What does Mashley even do at night? Pretty sure he can't NK people or something...
Oh wow, third circumstantial point.
Actually, I've got a better way.
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
switched chris and mashley.
I decided to go with a safe bet rather than attempt to switch with a mafia.
I decided to go with a safe bet rather than attempt to switch with a mafia.
FoS pieguy and Mara
Why did you not claim D2, with the original mass roleclaim? Especially if you both are just vanilla town.
Speaking of that, I still need to comment on all that shit.
Regardless, it sounds to me like you were clueless D2, and decided n2 what to claim on d3.
Why did you not claim D2, with the original mass roleclaim? Especially if you both are just vanilla town.
Speaking of that, I still need to comment on all that shit.
Regardless, it sounds to me like you were clueless D2, and decided n2 what to claim on d3.
Lilac wrote:
What makes you think there IS a roleblocker for the final time?
This is not a confirmation, but it's likely to have one. Also, if there weren't a role blocker, they would have just NK'ed Chris. In this case, Mashley would have gotten NK'ed, which did not happened. What does this indicate? Mafia decided not to kill Chris and just role block him I bet.bmin11 wrote:
And because we only had a single NK, we may have a doctor. It would be reasonable to assume Mafia Roleblocker would also be present in that case.
So, Lilac, if you weren't lying about your role, what's your take on these events? That is, who do you think are mafia and the SK?
Right but my target has the ability to leave at night, so my action didn't work.Chris wrote:
The fact I got roleblocked means that Foulcoon couldn't have been.
Also I said that I was pretty sure I got roleblocked, but I also said I never received any PM so I didn't know for sure.
How would I know? I don't have an ability.Lilac wrote:
Actually, I've got a better way.
Mash, were you roleblocked last night?
akro: I think pieguy is Mafia but I'm beginning to think you are as well for some reason, probably on a very slight suspicion though.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
He could have targetted you as a vig, or a SK targetted others and said "I targetted Lilac, but I think I got roleblocked". This got complicated because we never knew of your ability to escape for a night. So, this is still WIFOM and there aren't a way to prove it I guess.Lilac wrote:
akro: I think pieguy is Mafia but I'm beginning to think you are as well for some reason, probably on a very slight suspicion though.
Foul is also content with sticking to the fact that he tried to kill me which meant who killed Wojjan? This is all under chris's hypothetical statement mind you.
Double posting. Sorry
In case you missed that outChris wrote:
akrolsmir + bmin11 are both pro-town.
Ignore the fact I left for the night then.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris? Was Two that important to have dead?
Also foul says he might have been roleblocked but I doubt there were two roleblockers. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Mara was SK because of how many FPS games him and Tuuba play.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris? Was Two that important to have dead?
Also foul says he might have been roleblocked but I doubt there were two roleblockers. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Mara was SK because of how many FPS games him and Tuuba play.
What made the Mafia not want to NK Chris?As I posted before, I bet they just role blocked him, because that's all it takes to silence him pretty much. However...
Was Two that important to have dead?Two was not the case like Chris. Two basically ran the scumhunting during D2. Role blocking would not be so effective against Two, so I bet they NK'ed him instead of Chris. It's one stone two birds for mafia.
EDIT:
and we never said foulcoon was definitely role blocked or anything. Actually, it's very slim as you said. I agree with Chris on foulcoon being the possible SK. It's easy for a SK to act like Vigilante. I also find myself hard to belive there would be two Vigilantes as well.
Before we even deal with any of this shit:
1. LadySuburu - Claimed strager/role thief
2. Mashley* - Claimed peppy/Lyncher
3. animask* Rolled - Claimed Rokodo/Bus Driver
4. Lilac - Hito/Commuter
5. rust45* - Claimed nothing
6. pieguy1372 - Claimed index-san/Vanilla
7. foulcoon - Claimed Ivalset/Night Vig
8. akrolsmir - Claimed sakura hana/3x One-Shot (cop/doc/vig)
9. Chris - Two/Lie detector
10. bmin11 - Daru/no description
11. LunaticMara - Claimed Fishie/Vanilla
Bmin, supply a description of your role.
Rust, fucking claim something you little weasel.
prod: Rust
Mod: 1 day extension due to osu being down?
1. LadySuburu - Claimed strager/role thief
2. Mashley* - Claimed peppy/Lyncher
3. animask* Rolled - Claimed Rokodo/Bus Driver
4. Lilac - Hito/Commuter
5. rust45* - Claimed nothing
6. pieguy1372 - Claimed index-san/Vanilla
7. foulcoon - Claimed Ivalset/Night Vig
8. akrolsmir - Claimed sakura hana/3x One-Shot (cop/doc/vig)
9. Chris - Two/Lie detector
10. bmin11 - Daru/no description
11. LunaticMara - Claimed Fishie/Vanilla
Bmin, supply a description of your role.
Rust, fucking claim something you little weasel.
prod: Rust
Mod: 1 day extension due to osu being down?
bmin, I see you lurking.
Claim something even though that will give the mafia more insight on the setup of the game and I'm already confirmed town? No thanks.
Anyway, I don't know why but I'm having trouble finding motivation in this game. I think I'm going to request replacement.
Anyway, I don't know why but I'm having trouble finding motivation in this game. I think I'm going to request replacement.
And what exactly confirms you are town?
I'm a 50% chance Detective. If I target the victim (NK'ed) of the night successfully, I'm able to draw the culprit's face. However, I only have 50% chance of doing so because of inconvinient reasons (probably indicating how Daru can't draw so often because of his real life =ㅅ=;;)
And I didn't lurk. I just didn't refresh in time and left the forum open. Sorry
I actually did see that, bmin. As soon as I posted the lurking thing, I saw you were no longer on the list.
Also, I like that post. This elaborate stories are hard to fake, and that is quite elaborate.
Rust, care to make up a story?
Also, I like that post. This elaborate stories are hard to fake, and that is quite elaborate.
Rust, care to make up a story?
Request: Modkill rust
We don't have any replacements.
Thank you for showing your disinterest rust, we may not need to take a night now to test Chris's sanity.
We don't have any replacements.
Thank you for showing your disinterest rust, we may not need to take a night now to test Chris's sanity.
The two vanilla claimers are both unconfirmed by chris, so it's possible (probable?) both are lying. I'm thinking there is at most one vanilla townie.
Given that chris is 1. not lying and 2. always right, that rolled is town busdriver for preventing chris's roleblock, and that mashley isn't lying about being a lyncher, our variables are:
Lilac
foulcoon
pieguy
Mara
Assuming a setup of 3 mafia for an 18 person game, along with the one known SK hanging around, three out of these four are anti-town who need to be lynched.
Possibilities:
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
That means foulcoon actually is a townie night vig, Lilac is probably the roleblocker. One of pieguy/Mara is scum, the other is the SK. In this scenario, lynch Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and Lilac
Lilac and foulcoon are both not lying about their roles. Problem is, then we don't have enough people to fill in the remaining 2 scum and 1 SK, so we're wrong about the setup entirely (lynch chris). Pretty unlikely.
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Lilac may or may not be scum, but foulcoon shot Wojjan instead. His reasoning being that if he were to do as to do as the town suggested to fake vig, after mafia were dead he'd be the first lynch target. If this is true obviously we lynch foulcoon.
4. foulcoon is lying and is mafia.
He's in cahoots with Lilac, so didn't shoot him. One of pieguy/Mara is SK, the other is actually a vanilla townie. Lynch either Lilac or foulcoon while chris investigates who the SK is.
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The safest lynch choice seems to be Lilac, though foulcoon brings the higher reward if he turns out to be SK.
Lilac, foulcoon: What do you think? Who is what and who should we lynch? If you don't respond then you know we'll be going after you first.
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Mod: I agree with the proposed 1-day extension.
Given that chris is 1. not lying and 2. always right, that rolled is town busdriver for preventing chris's roleblock, and that mashley isn't lying about being a lyncher, our variables are:
Lilac
foulcoon
pieguy
Mara
Assuming a setup of 3 mafia for an 18 person game, along with the one known SK hanging around, three out of these four are anti-town who need to be lynched.
Possibilities:
1. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to save Lilac.
That means foulcoon actually is a townie night vig, Lilac is probably the roleblocker. One of pieguy/Mara is scum, the other is the SK. In this scenario, lynch Lilac.
2. Mafia roleblocked foulcoon to incriminate foulcoon and Lilac
Lilac and foulcoon are both not lying about their roles. Problem is, then we don't have enough people to fill in the remaining 2 scum and 1 SK, so we're wrong about the setup entirely (lynch chris). Pretty unlikely.
3. foulcoon is lying and is the SK.
Lilac may or may not be scum, but foulcoon shot Wojjan instead. His reasoning being that if he were to do as to do as the town suggested to fake vig, after mafia were dead he'd be the first lynch target. If this is true obviously we lynch foulcoon.
4. foulcoon is lying and is mafia.
He's in cahoots with Lilac, so didn't shoot him. One of pieguy/Mara is SK, the other is actually a vanilla townie. Lynch either Lilac or foulcoon while chris investigates who the SK is.
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The safest lynch choice seems to be Lilac, though foulcoon brings the higher reward if he turns out to be SK.
Lilac, foulcoon: What do you think? Who is what and who should we lynch? If you don't respond then you know we'll be going after you first.
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Mod: I agree with the proposed 1-day extension.
Keep in mind some people might be lying about their roles in their roleclaims. By pure elimination, assuming Chris is not lying, then we have Mashley, Rolled, Lilac, me, foulcoon, and LunaticMara. Mashley or Rolled could be lying and unless we use Chris, there's really no way to tell.
For now, I agree a Lilac or foulcoon lynch is safest.
For now, I agree a Lilac or foulcoon lynch is safest.
Topic Starter
Extending the deadline by 1 day.
I'll try to find a replacement for rust.
I'll try to find a replacement for rust.
Lilac and foulcoon posted their thoughts on eachother and said "Lilac (foulcoon) is scummy" and voted eachother. Scene 4 now seems to be unlikely.
Thinking back, there isn't a reason why foulcoon would NK Wojjan if he was the SK (unless both were mafia, which became a slim possibility because of their votes on eachother). It would have been much safer to just shoot Lilac and prove his innocent (as a Night Vig).
I'm willing to vote on Lilac now even thought the Commuter claim sounds fine
Vote: Lilac
Thinking back, there isn't a reason why foulcoon would NK Wojjan if he was the SK (unless both were mafia, which became a slim possibility because of their votes on eachother). It would have been much safer to just shoot Lilac and prove his innocent (as a Night Vig).
I'm willing to vote on Lilac now even thought the Commuter claim sounds fine
Vote: Lilac
We're assuming a lot of things here.
The first assumption that is being made (at least by akro) is that there's 3 mafia members total. 2 mafia is standard in a 9 man game, and this game had 18. We need to look out for 3 more mafia.
Another assumption is that Chris is sane, and I think that everybody should always at least have the thought in the back of their mind that he isn't. Don't rely every decision you make based on Chris's sanity.
That said, I feel like we can test his sanity relatively easy and not at the cost of any night actions. Rust's statements don't sit well with me at all. Is his role really that valuable that he will not even claim the person, while 17 other member's roles are aware? (or at least claimed)
Let's compare rust with animask. Both were disinterested in this game, however animask, with little to care about, claimed his role when prodded to do so. It didn't require any thinking, everybody else was doing it, and he planned on dropping out anyway, thus he claimed.
Rust also expresses disinterest, and wishes to be replaced (also note: animask requested modkill, rust requested replacement). The only difference is, he is not giving any information on his role. Is his role really that game breaking? Is there already not many powerhouse roles in this game that mafia can choose between when nighttime comes? If his role is that important, why does he not have any information for us by day 3?
I'm more certain now than ever that Chris is either insane/naive, and rust is mafia.
I believe a modkill is standard play when a player expresses disinterest, and no replacements are available? Perhaps faceman doesn't wish to do so, because it will be quite the game-changer (and his mafia teammates won't be too satisfied with him)
Also, just to clarify, rust is the only member of Chris's D2 results that has not yet be (nearly)confirmed. If we do lynch him, and he is mafia, this opens up the door for Chris tonight to give town more valuable information tomorrow.
With all of that said, vote: rust
The first assumption that is being made (at least by akro) is that there's 3 mafia members total. 2 mafia is standard in a 9 man game, and this game had 18. We need to look out for 3 more mafia.
Another assumption is that Chris is sane, and I think that everybody should always at least have the thought in the back of their mind that he isn't. Don't rely every decision you make based on Chris's sanity.
That said, I feel like we can test his sanity relatively easy and not at the cost of any night actions. Rust's statements don't sit well with me at all. Is his role really that valuable that he will not even claim the person, while 17 other member's roles are aware? (or at least claimed)
Let's compare rust with animask. Both were disinterested in this game, however animask, with little to care about, claimed his role when prodded to do so. It didn't require any thinking, everybody else was doing it, and he planned on dropping out anyway, thus he claimed.
Rust also expresses disinterest, and wishes to be replaced (also note: animask requested modkill, rust requested replacement). The only difference is, he is not giving any information on his role. Is his role really that game breaking? Is there already not many powerhouse roles in this game that mafia can choose between when nighttime comes? If his role is that important, why does he not have any information for us by day 3?
I'm more certain now than ever that Chris is either insane/naive, and rust is mafia.
I believe a modkill is standard play when a player expresses disinterest, and no replacements are available? Perhaps faceman doesn't wish to do so, because it will be quite the game-changer (and his mafia teammates won't be too satisfied with him)
Also, just to clarify, rust is the only member of Chris's D2 results that has not yet be (nearly)confirmed. If we do lynch him, and he is mafia, this opens up the door for Chris tonight to give town more valuable information tomorrow.
With all of that said, vote: rust
And also, as far as I'm concerned, foulcoon hasn't proved anything to us thus far. The only reason he is alive right now is because he agreed to shoot Lilac last night.
Even if Lilac is telling the truth about the Hito thing, Hito is a fucking BAT. I can't name any other BAT more corrupt than her, either.
If that isn't the case, perhaps they're both lying and aligned together. I'd like to propose that Foulcoon shoots Lilac n3. If it wasn't for your previous actions Lilac, then I'm sure foulcoon would have never been told to shoot you N2, so there's obviously scumtells there. Same goes for foulcoon, as he was nearly lynched as well. You need to prove your innocence before it's too late.
Even if Lilac is telling the truth about the Hito thing, Hito is a fucking BAT. I can't name any other BAT more corrupt than her, either.
If that isn't the case, perhaps they're both lying and aligned together. I'd like to propose that Foulcoon shoots Lilac n3. If it wasn't for your previous actions Lilac, then I'm sure foulcoon would have never been told to shoot you N2, so there's obviously scumtells there. Same goes for foulcoon, as he was nearly lynched as well. You need to prove your innocence before it's too late.
I couldn't find anything to point out from Rolled's first post. I wasn't so willing to test Chris's insanity because of his N2 resuly (calling akros and me pro-town while akros proved his innocent), but now it sounds like we may need to test Chris's sanity because of rust45's and 0_o behaviour. I'm willing to participate on this test with a vote.
Unvote, Vote: rust45
Unvote, Vote: rust45
For the second post (sorry for double posting by the way), we may have to ask the mod before doing it because
