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Topic Starter
Mara
I suck at making good looking sliders :| I ignored those sliders for now, I'd like to get some help with them.

But everything else fix'd. Thanks.
Sallad4ever
if you want I can help you make them slider still, I am not as good as Krisom or Gonzvlo
Topic Starter
Mara
If you can show slider points of those what you made, I would be happy.

Or if you prefer sending .osu, that's alright too.
Sallad4ever
Here I've remade some of the curve sliders
Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Crazyphobic].osu
I only change the sliders but it's better to double check in case I carelessly change something. No need for kudosu~
I hope this is good for you
Topic Starter
Mara
Better than good. Thanks a lot for helping!

Time to get MAT/BAT in here.
Lizbeth
Zelda<333

Crazyphobic
00:22:633 (2,3,4) - wrong spacing there, 3 and 4 shouldn't have same distance between them as 1 and 2. Should look like: http://puu.sh/5i40

Suggestions
00:10:733 (1) - move to prev red tick, I think sounds better~
00:13:933 (1) - same as above
00:17:133 (1) - ^
00:58:733 (2) - remove note
01:00:733 (1) - replace by a single circle at 01:00:833 -
01:01:533 - add note here?
01:13:833 - ^
01:17:633 (2) - End this slider on prev red tick
01:19:633 (1,2,3,4) - this sounds off

Other diffs are fine~

Prrs~
Topic Starter
Mara
Fixed almost everything you mentioned.

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Lizbeth
Can't complain, Happy Birthday... a bit early though ^^' <3
James2250

LunaticMara wrote:

I also refuse to change the BG because it's BG made by artist himself. It looks better that way IMO@James
That's fine then.

Sounds "much" better with some more hitsounds added throughout the difficulties, everything else looks good
Consider this your birthday present from me :P

Ranked~
Zelos
HELLZ YES!
mochi
how did this garbage get ranked?
Topic Starter
Mara
It's not garbage.

SPOILER
It's an art.
Sallad4ever
Obligatory congratulation both on the ranked map and the Birthday :)
Mismagius

qilliam wrote:

how did this garbage get ranked?
Judging by your favourite beatmaps, you don't really have the right to say that ;p
Waryas
Too bad the map isn't as good as the remix.
Or should i say the remix isn't as bad as the map
NatsumeRin
i don't know anything but...
i think it's 2011.09 now, not 2009.11
Mismagius
nevermind my previous post, this map is just



uh it's okay

until the hardest diff
Topic Starter
Mara
ok
Azure_Kite
Lepi's Taiko Oni:

00:20:299 (28) - Should be snapped to the blue tick in 1/4, not 1/3.



i.e. this really should be fixed, as it's an off-beat note.
Topic Starter
Mara
Alright. Let's unrank this for a moment, let's fix that thing (and few things from that hardest difficulty, if BD and Jesus likes to tell details).
jericho2442
unranked for the fixes then, glad we found it and lets get this fixed and ranked again ;D
lepidopodus
I guess LM did some kind of mistake when updating the diff.

To the next MAT/BAT: Please double check that every notes in Taiko diff are placed in right beat. I checked before, but I might be wrong.
ziin

LunaticMara wrote:

(and few things from that hardest difficulty, if BD and Jesus likes to tell details).
Well since you're asking, I can shed some light one what I don't like about it, and why it's below average for me. Keep in mind a lot of this is because of the song, and the fact that it's not really designed for an expert difficulty. I'm also going to be incredibly picky in order to show you that you would need to do a lot different in order to make it "good" in my eyes.

[general]
1.0x spacing on 150 BPM and 2.0 slider velocity makes the streams abnormally large, which is why people generally use compressed streams.
The note placement seems haphazard. I do not mind this so much, but some people do not like random beatmaps, and in most cases a well thought out symmetrical map looks and plays better than a random one.
00:10:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is not symmetrical.
00:18:833 (1) - not only are these 1/3, but they look like 1/2 because of the 1.2x spacing.
01:22:833 (3) - just an example of the ugly sliders found in the map

So the BPM 150 means it's too fast for 1 finger, and just awkwardly slow for 2 finger. The spacing in the map makes it genuinely unfun to play, and normally one finger is easier for this type of spacing.

Finally, I'm a bit disappointed there's not a more centralized theme in the map. It's zelda, and there's a tri-force in the background, so I would have liked to see more equilateral triangle patterns and such. Poinsettia is a good example of a map which uses a lot of a theme (in its case, 5 point stars, which everyone loves).

It's not worth a remap or anything like that, especially not after it was just ranked. These are just some things to think about.

Don't get me wrong, there's a difference between a rankable beatmap and a good beatmap. I just think you should be expecting a lot of people to vote it down and probably average in the low 8s, because I do not enjoy playing this beatmap due to the awkward difficutly, and I think a lot of people feel the same way.

So gogo rerank.
Topic Starter
Mara
Thanks ziin, I'll start working on it when I get back home.

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ziin
Wait at least until someone else agrees with me (or you agree with me), or someone disagrees with me on the matter before you rerank or remap it. I'm not any sort of authority on the matter, and there should be plenty of people who really did like it, though they may not be vocal about it. Regardless of how much I liked or disliked the map, it was rankable.
Mismagius
In my opinion, the note placement on the hardest difficulty is just RIDICULOUS. You basically have to turn your cursor 270° sometimes while doing a spaced 150BPM 1/4 stream then right after that you have to do a 1/3 very spaced stream. It's just terrible to play. I liked the other difficulties, though.
Waryas
its just the stream spacing it forced me to use one finger. And 150 1/4 and one finger = terrible accuracy for me
It was terribly awkward to play and didn't feel like a 2011 map. If you want to use that kind of spacing maybe you should do circle size a bit bigger?
Zelos
Dang it. oh wellz.

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thelewa
This map is so trollllllllllllllllllllllll



STREAMS ARE TOO HARD THIS MAP SUCKS STREAM ACC IS REALLY BAD BOOHOO 150BPM IS TOO SLOW FOR 2 FINGERS ON 1/3 BOOHOO

stop whining this map is easy

JesusYamato wrote:

one finger = terrible accuracy for me
So I guess you play with 1 finger all the time :3333333333333333333333333333333333
Charles445
Actually, all you need to do on Crazyphobic is raise the circle size to in between normal and large. Played it with those settings, the 1/3 streams are still readable and nothing looks bad because of it. It makes it all around better.

normal circle size is a 2009 stereotype
Topic Starter
Mara
*writes notes*

No, this is not too short.

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James2250
(Btw my mistake for missing the mess up on taiko Mara/lepid)
Topic Starter
Mara
Yeah, don't worry about it - taiko is already fixed and I'll make small Crazyphobic fix soon.
Mismagius

ragelewa wrote:

This map is so trollllllllllllllllllllllll



STREAMS ARE TOO HARD THIS MAP SUCKS STREAM ACC IS REALLY BAD BOOHOO 150BPM IS TOO SLOW FOR 2 FINGERS ON 1/3 BOOHOO

stop whining this map is easy

JesusYamato wrote:

one finger = terrible accuracy for me
So I guess you play with 1 finger all the time :3333333333333333333333333333333333

uuuuhh I FC'd it too, the map isn't hard but it's retarded.

So just because you're Mara's bitch it doesn't mean you're right.
Topic Starter
Mara
Get out of my thread, both of you.

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Topic Starter
Mara
Alright, due ziin was friendly and explained the problem here, I dediced to make a radical fix. This hasn't been remapped, but I switched slider velocity to 1,6. That should do the trick. I also switched distance spacing from 1,0 to 0,9 on normal parts. In 1/3, it's still 1,2.

I also switched note positions a lot. Take a shot.
thelewa

Blue Dragon wrote:

uuuuhh I FC'd it too, the map isn't hard but it's retarded.

So just because you're Mara's bitch it doesn't mean you're right.
xierbaliti
-Crazyphobic-
00:21:033 (6) - start at 00:21:099 and end to 00:21:233.
00:21:433 (7) - start at 00:21:499 and end to 00:21:633.
00:41:633 - I'd like to add a note here.

this map is more like an old one. in 2008, it may be a very good map. but for now it's really not good.
dNextGen
- Crazyphobic caused so much butthurt, lulz.

Topic Starter
Mara
And it will still do, once this gets ranked again.

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