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00:01:574 (1574|4,1824|4) - I think both should be double not just adding simple anchor like 00:01:574 (1574|4,1824|4,2074|4) - (ref 00:05:699 (5699|2,5699|0,5824|3,5824|5) - )

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done, lmk if it needs more changes

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00:07:574 - minor, this sound has strong drum sound.

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ya u right fixxxed

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00:13:324, 00:13:824 - there should be only one note here since there is no vocal.
you can map it like this for example to keep the mapping concept:

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u right, applied

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00:14:324 (14324|2,14324|0,14824|3,14824|5) - double with low vocal sound seems too much for me, suggest reduce to single.

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thought abt this too lol. Made 00:14:324 (14324|0,14324|2) - into single on col1 and 00:14:824 (14824|5,14824|3) - into single on col6

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00:17:699 (17699|1,17699|0,17761|2,17761|3,17824|5,17824|4) - seems weird progression in here, those chordsizes should be 2-1-3 (ref 00:15:824 (15824|4,15824|3,15886|1,15949|4,15949|3,16011|1) -, 00:17:574 (17574|3,17574|4,17574|2) - has triple with big drum), this is my opinion to rearrange

same logic can be applied at 00:22:574 (22574|1,22574|0,22636|4,22636|5,22699|3,22699|2,22761|1,22824|2,22824|4,22824|0) -

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yass applied

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00:18:074 - quad is enough to emphasize both main sound + main kick not just adding triple

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Oke

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00:18:511 (18511|2) - this 1/4 stream appears too early, the synth starts 00:18:574, not there. Suggest remove it.

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it was for the vocal but now that i give it a better look i agree that it can be confused with the following 1/4 stream. Applied

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00:18:636 - i think u could add here a note to represent this sound; its the same sound as 00:18:761 so i see no reason why not to add it

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added note on col5

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00:19:074 (19074|3,19136|4,19199|3,19261|4) - you can keep this pattern however I think those one-hand 210 bracket-trill is overkilling them (same logics at #4852794), you can nerf simple trill or stream, this is one of my suggestion with trill

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looks cool. applied

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since 00:21:824 and 00:21:949 sound pretty similar, maybe u can make them consecutive jacks, like at 00:21:074 and 00:21:324 for example.
maybe you could map it like that if u dont wanna chance the pattern above it:

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yea cool. I only modified the doubles at 00:21:824 - and made them a col4 & 6 double

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00:22:636 - maybe you could make this note a double to match with 00:22:699 and to represent it as more notes than 00:22:761 since its a way softer sound? also in order not to make this part too dense, u can break the consistency here and reduce 00:22:574 to 2 notes.

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yass, removed 00:22:574 (22574|5) - and added double here

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00:22:949 - missing double, this part (00:22:574 - 00:23:324) repeating 2-1 structure.
(also please rearrange carefully, current patter is kinda complex)

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added double and rearranged a lil

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00:23:824 (23824|4,23949|5) - minor, I think moving both to col1 seems better for emphasizing same sound with avoid anchors.

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yess

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00:24:324 (24324|0,24324|1) - vocal double should be placed 00:24:261, not here if you intended that.

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Keep. the doubles are for this vocal that you can hear here too 00:18:324 (18324|4,18324|5,18449|0,18449|1) -

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00:28:074 - should be a quad to keep the consistency with 00:20:074

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i forgor

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00:28:074 (28074|0,28136|2,28199|3) - this vocal notes and after 00:28:261 - stream blends and results both unclear song progression and making unintended anchor at col3 if you make double-trill at 00:28:011, imo.

suggest remove those notes and add double at 00:28:011 col2,3, it is fine to start 1/4 stream at 00:28:261 cuz the sound actually starts here.

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fixed but i don't think i got it right, Will need more clarification after i update the map

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you catched right way, all things seem good but I think 00:28:261 can be added cuz has very minor vocal sounds

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got it

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Keep. I want to keep the 3-4-3-4 chordsize :P

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00:33:886 (33886|2,33949|4,34011|0) - I feels underwhelming just dealing same as 1/4 stream, this sound has clearly different one compared with other parts, you can improve to 1/8 or 1/6 stream instead (eg. 00:37:449 (37449|2,37490|3,37532|4) - ,00:35:699 (35699|5,35740|4,35782|3) - )

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added 1/6 stream

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00:37:699 (37699|2,37740|3,37782|4,37824|2,37824|5,37824|1,37824|0,37949|3,37949|4,38011|1,38011|2,38074|0,38074|5,38074|3) - ctrl+h for hand balance? and actually fun to play not just let into right hands

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sure

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00:38:824 (38824|0,38886|3,38886|2,38949|1,38949|0,39011|2,39011|3,39074|0) - IDK not sure about this, those 00:38:824 (38824|0,38886|2,38949|1,38949|0,39011|2,39074|0) - part is actually too left-hand based, I think you can rearrange differently that you made same kicktrill parts (eg. 00:42:949 (42949|2,42949|1,43011|4,43011|5,43074|1,43074|0,43136|2,43136|3,43199|5,43199|4) - , etc)

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Fixed, lmk if its good like that (Also i sacrificed the single on col1 at 00:38:824 - for playability)

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00:41:574 (41574|5,41574|4,41574|0,41636|3,41699|2,41699|1,41699|5,41761|4,41824|0,41824|3,41824|1,41886|5,41949|3,41949|4,41949|2,42011|0,42074|2,42074|1,42074|5) - I can understand your intention however, results too blended with vocal and kick notes, and unsure where's the emphasis point is.

I suggest remove vocal with 1/4 stream which is not suitable imo, it is fine to leave as 1/2 triple (with quad at 00:41:824) jack, in this entire parts do single 1/4 stream and 1/2 jack can ventilate enough

same as 00:45:324 (45324|5,45324|3,45324|0,45324|4,45386|1,45449|2,45449|5,45449|0,45511|4,45574|2,45574|1,45574|3,45636|0,45699|3,45699|5,45699|4,45761|2,45824|4,45824|5,45824|1,45824|0,45886|3,45949|1,45949|2,45949|0,46011|3) -

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removed 1/4 streams and rearranged a little

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00:43:199 - vs 00:43:824 (43824|1,43824|4,43824|5,43824|0) - quad or double? well, I suggest just add triple or quad both

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i think you meant to say 00:43:324 (43324|5,43324|1,43324|0,43324|2) - ??? and not 00:43:199.
00:43:324 (43324|5,43324|1,43324|0,43324|2) - and 00:43:824 (43824|1,43824|4,43824|5,43824|0) - both are quads for the big kick so i don't see where's the problem here... gonna leave open for now

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00:43:074 (43074|1,43074|0,43136|3,43136|2,43199|5,43199|4) - and 00:43:699 (43699|0,43699|1,43761|3,43761|2,43824|0,43824|4,43824|5,43824|1) - both are constructing same kick sounds, however those pattern is conflicting your idea;

former one is consisting 2-2-2 chordsizes but latter one is 2-2-4, which have different end chordsizes
that's why I suggested pick one

if you worried about 00:43:324 (43324|5,43324|1,43324|0,43324|2) - , adjust both to triple at the end

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i think im gonna keep this as it is since the structure for 00:43:074 (43074|1,43074|0,43136|3,43136|2,43199|5,43199|4) - is voluntarily different from 00:43:699 (43699|1,43699|0,43761|2,43761|3,43824|1,43824|5,43824|4,43824|0) - cuz both end with different types of kicks (00:43:199 (43199|4,43199|5) - normal kick so double, 00:43:824 (43824|1,43824|4,43824|5,43824|0) - veeery big kick so quad)

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00:46:136 (46136|0,46261|0) - move to col2? Current pattern is unsymmetry and seems weird imo.

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u right lol

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00:46:574 - the sound here is on 1/8

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u right but im kinda struggling to connect it with 00:46:699 (46699|5,46699|4). I'll see what i can do

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what aboutr this?

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you're THE goat

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00:49:949 (49949|1) - move to col6 will not break ur idea, those parts already doing separated things (left - stream, right - jacks) and make them consistency

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yea

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00:51:074 - suggestion; maybe instead of keeping the 1/4 flow here, u can sort of "break" it to emphasize the "break" in the flow of the song. my suggestion is to make 00:51:074 a triple, and add one note jack on it at 00:51:199.

also since its very close to this timestamp, maybe u could make 00:51:761 a double to keep the consistency with 00:51:699?
here is a visual example of everything i had mentioned in this mod:

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also related to the first part of the post, maybe u can do the same thing with 00:53:699 (53699|5)?

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looks cool :D applied

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quick thing, i just noticed that 01:00:824 is basically the same thing so maybe u could add it here as well

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hmm i don't think i understand, you're sayoing that i should make 00:53:699 (53699|5) - into a double?

and also for 01:00:824 i think u ment another timestamp??? its a lot different from 00:51:074

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  • no, i meant to make it a consecutive jack with 00:53:574, i think it fits this part a bit better
  • now when i compare them you're right, they are a bit different so its okay to keep it as how it is rn
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oops oke got it now

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00:53:699 (53699|2) - might be picky sugg; ghost note (or very minor vocal) and even consisting unfriendly anchor 00:53:574 (53574|2,53699|2,53824|2) - , suggest move another col imo

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Oke, moved to col4

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00:54:261 - this is honestly pretty uncomfortable to play because of the high bpm, maybe can u switch places with 00:54:261 (54261|2,54324|1) and move 00:54:449 (54449|2) to col 5?

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fixxxxxxx

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00:54:261 (54261|5,54261|1,54261|0,54261|4,54324|3,54324|2) - I think you can make 1/8 stream instead of quad-double structure considering it is synth

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Not sure what you mean or how i could do this... could you please provide an image as an example???

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thanks, applied

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00:54:449 (54449|0,54449|4,54449|5,54574|0,54574|5,54574|1) - vs 00:54:449 (54449|0,54449|4,54449|5,54574|0,54574|5,54574|1) - actually conflicting your concept, suggest make quad-triple like latter one.

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i think you highlighted the same timestamps, will leave open

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00:51:324 (51324|0,51324|4,51324|3,51324|5,51449|5,51449|0,51449|1) - :skull: this one consists 3-4 chordsizes (sorry for kb issue)

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since 00:54:449 (54449|0,54449|4,54449|5) - i made this as 3 cuz its not the same type of "big kick" as 00:51:324 (51324|4,51324|0,51324|3,51324|5) (which i made as 4). I think it's better if i keep it like this so that both kick sounds are differentiated :3

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00:54:824 (54824|2,54824|0,54824|1,54949|2,54949|1,54949|0) - I don't think those triple is fine, it is too large. Suggest reduce double or lower.

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Oke, reduced to doubles

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00:55:074 (55074|0,55074|5,55074|3,55199|1,55199|2,55199|4,55324|5,55324|0,55324|3,55449|4,55449|1,55449|2,55574|5,55574|3,55574|0) - minor opinion: it is actually cool, but I highly suggest make only triple at vocal+kick and variate to double: like this

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yeaeaae

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i think 00:56:199 should be 1/6 to stay consistent with 00:52:949?

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i was actually thinking abt this a lot, i will come up w an idea on how to layer this in someway

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how about this?

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also how about this for 00:56:949? (just realized i didnt mention it oopsies)

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thank u so much omg i was actually losing braincells from trying to find a good pattern

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00:58:949 (58949|3,58949|1,59011|2,59074|3) - this looks a little hard to read imo especially with the trill, 00:58:949 (58949|5) - could move to col1 for better readability and hand balance

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yass

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quick suggestion, u could make 00:59:074 a double instead of a single since its pretty much like 00:58:074
also speaking of 00:58:074, this one is completely optional, u can maybe make it 1/8 because the sound is on 1/8 - this is what i mean:

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applied 00:58:074
kept 00:59:074 : i don't think a double fits here since there's no kick or anything else that justifies it :3

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01:00:824 (60824|4,60949|4,61074|4) - seems very dangerous anchor, how about rearrange like this?

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okeeeoeeoe

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01:01:574 (61574|0,61574|1,61574|3,61574|2,61636|4,61699|1,61761|3,61824|2,61824|1,61824|0) - some chordsize structure isn't consistent compared with 00:32:074 - 00:45:324 part and results uncomfortable progression like 01:01:636 (61636|4,61699|1,61761|3) - weird 1/2 stream.

I suggest to change 3-4 chordsize structure that you previously made at 00:32:074 - 00:45:324, and this can be give enough space for streamy atmostphere

example:

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looks as lot better, applied :P

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i think 01:02:574 is supposed to be on 1/8 and last til 01:02:824, also to reduce the density by a bit u can make 01:02:699 a single note

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isn't 1/8 too heavy if i make it last til 01:02:824??? i think a 1/6 stair from col1 to 6 fits better

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honestly i dont think it'll become too dense since it'll still be very manipable
this is how i mapped it for example

this way its pretty easy to hit and not too dense

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daamn u right

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01:12:074 (72074|3,72074|1,72074|5) - could add note for contrast

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Keep, i prefer to leave it as triple :3

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01:31:449 (91449|2,91574|2,91699|2) - current 01:31:324 (91324|3,91324|4,91386|0,91386|1,91449|3,91449|2) - and (ctrl+h'ed one at 01:31:574 (91574|2,91574|1,91636|5,91636|4,91699|2,91699|3) - ) pattern results uncomfortable anchor, you can refine like this:

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tbh i didn't even notice that 3 note ancor lol, applied

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01:50:324 - 01:51:574 - those kick parts are too empty at col1, I think you can rearrange like this?

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nice :P applied

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applied

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02:05:574 (125574|0,125574|5,125574|1) - minor, 02:05:574 - 02:05:949 part seems better to rearrange 2-3-2-3 chordsizes, reduce to double instead (ref. 02:05:824)

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hmm you're right, removed 02:05:574 (125574|5). Tell me if it needs further changes

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02:11:824 - 02:12:074 - these glitch sound should be 1/6?

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i'm only representing that sound with 02:11:949 (131949|3,131990|4,132032|5).

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02:15:074 (135074|3,135324|3,135574|3,135824|3,136074|3) - minor, this anchor is kinda huge even you made anchorjack at col4, result too heavey col4. you can move 02:15:574 (135574|3) - to col3 can avoid it.

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u right, applied

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02:19:824 (139824|3,139824|1,139824|4,139824|2) - imo quad is too much and making too uncomfortable minijacks at col 3, 5, I think it is fine to leave triple both avoid unintended jacks and expression

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yeaeaea

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i wanted to emphasize those two particular kicks (02:22:074 (142074|5,142074|4,142074|0) and 02:22:324 (142324|0,142324|5,142324|4)) and also if you hear closely you can hear 2 snares (02:22:199 (142199|3,142449|3) - ) so i connected the kicks and the snares with a 1/6 stair just to spice things up :3

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02:37:949 - is it intended not to emphasize double bracket at col4?

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bruh i forgor to make it a double. fixed

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02:59:824 (179824|3,179949|3) - i suggest remove this jack because inconsistent with 02:59:574 (179574|1,179699|2) -

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Keep. I'm using 2 logics for the 2 types of kicks here: 02:59:574 (179574|5,179574|4,179574|1,179574|0) - quad for the big kick (also here 02:57:574 (177574|5,177574|4,177574|1,177574|0) - 02:58:574 (178574|5,178574|4,178574|1,178574|0) - 03:00:574 (180574|4,180574|5,180574|1,180574|0) - etc...) and hands on opposite columns like 02:59:824 (179824|5,179824|3,179824|4,180074|1,180074|2,180074|0) -(and also 03:00:949 (180949|4,180949|3,180949|5,181324|1,181324|2,181324|0) - 03:01:824 (181824|5,181824|3,181824|4,181949|2,181949|0,181949|1,182074|5,182074|3,182074|4) - etc...). I know that these jacks exist (the one u highlighted and others like 03:02:074 (182074|3,182199|3)) but i don't want to change anything cuz it would look inconsistent :P

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03:07:574 - missing quad at glitch sound, ref 03:06:574 (186574|4,186574|1,186574|0,186574|5) - , etc, is it intended?

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oops my bad. fixed

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03:14:949 (194949|2) - seems more accurate to place vocal note 1/8 down, at 03:14:917

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omg yea ty

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03:21:449 (201449|4,201574|4,201699|4,201824|4) - due to 03:21:449 (201449|4) - note remains col5, feels insufficient emphasizing for clear kickdrum at col5,6 jacks;
reduce 03:21:324 triple for lowering synth and make enough space 03:21:449 (201449|4) - to place another col seems better

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fixed. Lmk if it needs more changes

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03:34:324 (214324|2,214324|0,214324|1,214324|4,214386|5,214449|1,214449|0,214449|4,214511|2,214574|3,214574|5,214574|4,214574|1,214636|2,214636|0) - all fine stream for me but this one is kinda tricky for players, anchor at col2 03:34:074 (214074|1,214199|1,214324|1,214449|1,214574|1) - makes more and too hard to read blendy notes, suggest rearrange like this?

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yesssir

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sure

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03:39:199 - missing double at col5 I think, ref 03:39:449 (219449|1,219449|3) -

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ooooopsie. Added missing note

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04:18:949 (258949|2,258980|1) - I think you can move another hand like col 4, 5; current one doesn't give enough glitch sound expression and just played manip jack

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yessir moved to col4 5

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04:25:074 (265074|5,265074|1,265115|0,265157|4,265199|3,265240|1,265282|5,265282|0,265324|4,265365|2,265407|1,265449|5,265490|3,265532|0,265574|2,265615|1,265657|4,265699|3,265740|2,265782|5,265824|4) - those glitch sound delay is too uncomfortable and spiky that player can thought unexpected dump in calm section, think more intuitive pattern like simple stream or something

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u right, made into a 1/4 stream, reply if it still needs more changes :P

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04:50:074 (290074|5,290074|4,290199|0,290199|1,290261|2) - bit underwhelming chord choice at large kick sounds, imo, I think you can ignore minor 04:50:136 (290136|3) - note and more expressing with at least triple at 04:50:074, 04:50:199, 04:50:261, seems better for me, consider about this.

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hmmmm idk abt this one: made 04:50:074 as triple but i don't think i can fit a triple at 04:50:199 without creating weird anchors. gonna leave this open for now, tell me if it's ok after i update the map :p

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gonna resolve since i think this looks ok :3

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05:01:386 (301386|3) - I think you can remove those note, actually ghost note and you didn't make same thing at 05:01:636

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u right lol. Removed

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05:04:699 - I think it is worthy to place triple compared with 05:04:824 (304824|5,304824|3) - , has big drum sound

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i prefer these 05:04:699 (304699|0,304699|2,304824|3,304824|5) to be symmetrical so i'll just leave them as doubles for now :3

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