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00:13:200 - The beginning part's background sounds is very long so I think the LN ended too early here . can end on 00:14:100 - or even extend one LN later than 00:14:400 - to create a sense of
for same reason , 05:22:536 (322536|4) - can be extended and end on 05:28:865 -

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extended them to 00:13:800 -

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

00:13:800 - 我觉得13800 并不够,起码00:14:100 - 甚至可以直接延到00:14:400 - 。声音明显没有结束

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Reopened by AWMRone

ok

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

00:13:950 - since it still had a sound here so wondering can be lengthened or not for those LNs at 00:01:950 (1950|3,4800|0,4800|4,8400|5,9600|6,10800|1) - , cuz there no clearly stop sign of the music, it's kinda odd.

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fixed in awm's mod, extended the LNs to 00:13:800 -

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

00:29:100 - 00:33:900 - 00:34:200 - ... check every 1/2 , I found many pianos are missed . The beginning rest part is very long , so I tend to grab onto every piano as you did like 00:26:700 (26700|3) - this one .Otherwise, the waiting finger will be slightly boring
00:43:200 - Even here I think we can remove/shorten some LNs and make room for piano notes

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00:41:100 - 00:41:400 - 00:48:600 - 00:50:700 - 00:51:000 - still god piano sound

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Yes 有很多,包括中间和最后的休息段,不一一列举了

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a lot of these that are being pointed out i honestly can't hear it. even if there's piano i just think it's just too insignificant to map them out. in normal playback rate the strings are the main focus and adding notes for piano that can't even be properly heard makes it weird to play. but i did add some there are still audible.

00:43:200 - pianos are omitted here, only following the strings

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

some consistency issue if you think that need to be fixed
given those 00:32:400 (32400|2,32400|1,32400|3) - 00:24:000 (24000|3,24000|6,24000|0) - melody all got tripled LN setting, wondering can this 00:28:500 (28500|0,28800|3) - one be changed to by adding release or new LN (dk depends on you guys) to more fix the chordsize thing

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it's an additive layering, i don't take note counts into consideration, and i think 手感 is more important for gameplay

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

00:35:400 - another shift melody shift in, I think can be added, depends on you wanna do another LN or make a inverse from other LN

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mainly followed only the cello and piano, don't really intend to include any pitch change note inside

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00:37:800 - 00:38:100 - those two had some melody kinda obv. like 00:29:400 (29400|2,29700|5) - , guess can be caught

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sure thing

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00:55:200 - can make 2 LNs start here , now only one cuz the vocals and cello have both undergone a transition here

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ok

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:06:000 (66000|2,66300|3,66600|4,66600|6) - if those for me violin sonud then you might missed those 01:05:100 - 01:05:400 - 01:05:700 - which so clear and obv.

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i was only focusing on the choir here, the string section is ignored

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:18:050 - the grace here feels late (although 25% seems correct, but hear with 100%) Due to the long breath, the actual pressing time gives the impression of being too late.I sugg move here

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ok, but the 2nd phrase of the vocals are pushed back by 1/12th from the suggestion since it's a bit too early imo

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01:23:475 - 01:23:625 - vs 01:28:275 (88275|3,88425|2) - I think ther are same but seems you just catch the the latter . Is it a intention progressive ?

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applied it back to the 1st one, thought i did it during mapping but it seems like i've forgotten to do it

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:24:600 - I know you may ignore the violin here intentionally but I think this one is specical , so 01:24:450 (84450|1) - seems too long . may be we can describe it with LN like
Another explanation is you use this structure 01:24:600 (84600|4,84600|0,84675|2,84750|4,84750|0,84825|2) - to describe the violin but I think the sound is not vibrate enough

01:29:550 - as well

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the long violin is represented by the col 1 and 3 trill, the long ln on col 2 is representing the big drum

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

Yes I test again and find it’s ok to keep

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01:28:275 (88275|3,88425|2) - even they got little different compared to 01:23:250 - but still didn't feel that 1/4 are so clearly to catch

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fixed on awm's mod

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:32:325 (92325|2,92325|4) - unnecessary doubled for me since that 01:32:025 (92025|1) - this already used 1 note for that heavy, feel kinda over imo

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doesn't really affect the gameplay much, removing it would make it feel a bit more awkward instead and pattern would also be incomplete

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:33:000 - there are some clear violins I think you can make them short LNs like you did before (01:28:200 (88200|6,88350|5,88500|4,88650|3) - ) for better layering . As this logic , 01:33:525 - should be rice , and 01:32:850 (92850|1) - should be ended before 01:33:300 -
Can do sth like

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changed and rearranged slightly

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

01:33:825 (93825|1,94425|3) - vs 01:34:125 (94125|2) - seems the latter has no drum . but fix this wil destroy the translational structure, but I still believe that accuracy should be the main focus

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it's good to differentiate between high and low pitched violins, for these particular ones it's exactly because they're on the higher registry i extended them by 1/16th for visual and expression

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

I think this 1/4 should be mapped in note (by adding one more object beside the LN?) since 01:36:225 (96225|1,96300|0) - 01:36:825 (96825|2,96900|4) - 01:39:525 (99525|3,99600|4) - that 1/4 rhythm really continued, so can be mapped with obv. object to catch/expresss that

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i thought it's a regular note already? :starege:

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dont quite understand your point ;w; could you please explain it a little more clearly

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maybe different version, seems now it's what my wish already

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Marked as resolved by _Stan

01:42:900 (102900|5,102900|6,102975|4,102975|5) - vs 01:44:175 - I think we have enough space to make it 01:44:175 - double , ps 01:41:775 (101775|2) - can be single yeah cuz the subsequent chords occupied the position
Also you can compare with this 01:53:775 (113775|1,113775|2) -

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ok

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Marked as resolved by U1d

01:45:300 - 个人爱好,这一拍想拉长点

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pattern changed

好像张力不够,所以换了个更难的

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Marked as resolved by U1d

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01:48:393 - the LN is too short here ? how about use this , just reject if you dont like

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no i like it so yes

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resolve

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Marked as resolved by U1d

01:50:700 - to 01:51:300 - seems excessive pressure on the left hand . try this ? can also make a jack for the drum syncopation . Ive test it and fell comfortable :3 . Check copypaste part if apply

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ok rearranged

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Marked as resolved by U1d

01:54:900 - vs 01:45:300 - 我觉得前者更好一点,感觉这里更像是转着行进的一个东西,01:45:300 (105300|3,105300|6,105318|2,105325|5,105337|1,105350|4) - 略微有点拍了。看你吧

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prefer keep for variation

而且这两个地方的氛围好像有点区别,就这样应该没关系

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Marked as resolved by U1d

01:59:850 (119850|2,119850|0,119925|2,119925|0,120000|0) - This is really hard to hit all 300s . I know you are ctrl+H from 01:50:250 - But the latter doesn't have 3-jack . maybe can try to move cols on 02:00:000 -

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好像也不是那么难,好尴尬

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这难度的图你还想打300s!!

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前面还是可以挣扎一下

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你咋和这个重复发了 #4826335

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你这样我觉得应该可以,直接把后面全镜像了

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⬆️good

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resolve

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Marked as resolved by U1d

02:06:768 (126768|0) - idk what sounds here, for grace like 02:06:750 (126750|1,126768|0) - ? it seems just a 1/8 dump thing so why 1/16 here

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yea it's a bit weird indeed, deleted

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Marked as resolved by U1d

02:07:050 - seems error chordsize on 1/4 lines , and I found that 02:06:600 - this burst is longer than real sound , so we can make it shorter and 02:06:975 - here make ctrl+H of 02:05:850 -
Just like

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rearranged

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Marked as resolved by U1d

02:15:750 - Can add one on space compare with 02:14:550 - (no drum)

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ok

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Marked as resolved by U1d

02:17:325 - vs 02:17:400 - and 02:17:850 - vs 02:18:000 - , chordsize. Also 02:18:150 - Seems no need to set a rice and not goodlooking. I think . try sth like this ?

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rearranged (a lot) this section

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Marked as resolved by U1d

I'll suggest you do a exchange for those 02:18:300 (138300|3,138300|4,138525|4,138750|3,138750|4,138975|4) - like make it more nice to play for both hand and 4x beat, or you just wanna keep the col [4] can be

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ok

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Marked as resolved by U1d

02:24:000 - this is the first looong vocal of this part . how about set an long LN on space to describe it ? as you did like 02:34:800 (154800|3) -
if apply , 02:26:400 - 02:27:600 - can also add on col 1 / 7

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Keep current for better flow

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:29:925 - I just feel the heavy beat/rhythm feeling happened 02:29:925 - not 02:29:850 -

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ok

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:31:125 - 1/4 is better ? seems no need to grace and can make different from 02:33:450 (153450|4,153487|3,153525|2) - ,also consist with here 02:29:925 -

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ok

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:51:300 - the snap here is too fast imo , 02:51:300 - here has sth and we can just use 02:51:450 - to describe breath sound, also make it same as other transition place like 02:46:500 - (althoug its for drum)

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to 1/3

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:54:600 (174600|4) - I guess this LN is for vocal ,so it should not seperated on 02:55:200 -
Make them 02:54:600 (174600|4) - 02:55:200 (175200|4) - as one LN is more comfortable and like real music

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ok

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:57:600 (177600|0,177825|2,178125|4,178200|6,178500|3) - I think the piano here is definitly highlight this part . I really want to buff them . The current version they integrate with grace and does not fully reflect it
So we can try this , Also , set 02:57:600 (177600|0) - to 1/4 LN cuz piano and 02:58:650 (178650|5) - make this rice cuz no piano

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I like the current one, in which I intend the piano to be played like reverse shield

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Marked as resolved by ruka

I have a different opinion on this part. I think the piano here should be a triplet. You can check the position of the piano's overtones in the spectrum as shown in this picture, which is closer to the 1/6 sequence.

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Reopened by chy030_ft_pH5_6
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yes, I think so too. Fixed to 1/6

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Marked as resolved by ruka

02:58:800 (178800|5) - it would be better if this one can be changed into LN like you did before 02:58:500 (178500|3) - in 1/6, then all the melody can be expressed in a whole 02:57:800 (177800|2,178100|4,178200|6,178500|3,178800|5) -

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not I did before, 02:58:500 (178500|3) - is ruka's part.

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

03:00:646 - Let's describe it in more details
And 03:03:119 - this grace seems not evenly distributed compare with 03:02:337 (182337|3,182396|4,182454|5,182513|3,182572|4,182631|5) -

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

03:02:690 - sound missing!

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

03:10:307 - OK I think this part is too painting , we can use rolly things when long vocal or cello occured ,but dont forget there are also violins . When music only consists of violin and drums we should use more clean patterns imo
Good place : 03:16:307 - nice roll
OK place : 03:10:682 - have background vocal so can use roll
Bad place : 03:12:182 - violin+drum only
// 03:20:807 - vs 03:21:182 - Grace are only occured the 2nd beat
check them until 03:52:307 -

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rearranged

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

03:11:057 (191057|2,191119|1) - didnt get the 1/6 gap here, seems werid to me compared to other part you mapped 03:14:057 (194057|2,194088|1,194119|0) - 03:21:182 (201182|4,201213|5,201244|6) -

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1/6 are dump for vocal #4826340

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

03:20:877 (200877|2,200900|1,200924|0,200971|6,200971|3,200994|5,201017|4) - 这个转好像没有什么必要,关键是03:21:228 - 这地方有小提琴的花,有必要做出对比

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这其实就是对这拍里四下提琴的扩展,我觉得可以和后面的03:21:228 - 作为呼应了

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

明白你的意思,但是我觉得第一拍提琴没有grace(实际上是很清晰的4个1/4,更像03:20:432 (200432|1,200432|4,200525|3,200525|6,200619|4,200619|1,200713|2,200713|5) - )
So 强烈建议不加grace。reopen for stan

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Reopened by AWMRone

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

Very good fix

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03:31:525 (211525|6) - 后面这段小提琴,所有的主音你都抓到正确位置了,唯独这个早了特别多,打起来错位感觉明显,可以重新排列一下,参考

(最左边为lead)

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这个不是主音。每一节只有最长的是抓的主音,其他都是做ln形状的

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

但是其他这种长度的很多也都给主音了,参考一下

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03:35:432 (215432|0) - 比如这里这个就不错。而且打到这感觉很明显,03:31:900 (211900|6) - 本身就是除了主音外几乎最长的LN,还没有踩到音。如果做形状的话建议分成两根,不然就感觉是像抓提琴抓歪了。reopen for stan

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Reopened by AWMRone

参考这一大句,03:34:307 - to 03:40:307 - ,做形状的LN也很多,但是长度基本都小于1/1,实际打起来就是一直在roll,不会给人误导感.

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keep 03:31:525 (211525|6) -
03:31:900 (211900|6) -
另外03:35:432 (215432|0) - 这个就是主音

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

Very good fix

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03:31:900 (211900|6) - I guess you use long LN for violin , if so ,this one should be start on 03:32:057 -

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not for violin

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

04:03:932 (243932|0,243932|5,243932|1,243932|4,243932|6) - it can be 1357 for better visual also the pressure. quad might be good for density IMO not 5

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if you also applied #4876630 then the other one note can be deleted by 05:16:001 (316001|2) - or 05:16:001 (316001|1) -

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

04:04:307 - I think this rap part should be slightly nerf . now it plays like a continuously and intensively speed part , but In fact, music fluctuates with the pause of lyrics, and accordingly, some background notes' grace can be eliminated
Parts that need improvement e.g:
1、04:08:542 - to 04:08:895 - for this beat ,I think grace sound should only be from 04:08:630 - to 04:08:807 -

2、04:15:954 - this roll seems seprated by white line , but current ver roll from 04:15:601 - to 04:16:307 - with no break

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3、04:17:012 - to 04:17:718 - are two different beat but seems patterns are same . The main rhythm is similar to

4、04:18:159 - This center symmetrical pattern is very beautiful, but it seems to go far away from music, The correct rhythm should be one 1/2 + four 1/8s
Good e.g:
1、04:14:189 - these rolls stopped with music
2、This center symmetrical pattern is beatiful and MATCH with music
I know fix this one may consume a lot of energy, but I strongly hope to correct these issues and make the pattern more in line with the music

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Prefer to keep my current idea for this part. I did rework on some unpolished pattern

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Marked as resolved by ruka

i do believe that 04:06:071 (246071|6,246101|5,246130|4,246159|3,246307|3,246336|2,246365|1,246395|0) - and 04:17:365 (257365|0,257395|1,257424|2,257454|3,257601|3,257630|4,257659|5,257689|6) - had difference no matter the dump sounds position or the density, can be changed with slight different setting ig

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I think game play wise the current flows well

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Marked as resolved by ruka

compared 04:12:424 (252424|3,252424|4,252424|0,252512|1,252512|0,252601|3,252601|2,252689|6,252689|2,252689|1) - and 04:23:718 (263718|3,263718|2,263807|6,263807|5,263983|4,263983|5,263983|0) - they are different but the sound pretty similar, yeah LN can be changed for different setting but the beat consistency sound or the rhythm should be setting similar imo

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This is due to the second part layering is heavier on the long note length

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Marked as resolved by ruka

yes

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Marked as resolved by ruka

not against the cartral symmetry but 04:18:248 - 04:18:292 - 04:18:336 - 04:18:380 - there got pretty clear 4x 1/8 sounds, kinda a pity to ignore just do the visual thing

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buffed

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Marked as resolved by ruka

04:26:939 - how about make these LN longer to emphsize the delay sound

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prefer current

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Marked as resolved by ruka

im not sure does those dump for vocal? if it's then check 04:27:336 (267336|0,267380|1,267512|1,267557|0) - and 04:28:395 (268395|0,268439|1,268615|1,268659|0) - , the later one #2 grace starting from 04:28:615 - but the sound seems started from 04:28:571 - like 04:27:512 - , if for more expression ACC. side ill suggest to change it

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changed to 1/4.

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Marked as resolved by ruka

04:32:189 (272189|0,272211|1,272255|2,272321|3,272387|2,272432|1,272454|0) - vs 04:31:836 (271836|6,271858|5,271902|4,271968|3,272034|4,272079|5,272101|6) - I believe the former matches that sound very well, but the latter 04:31:865 - seems composed of three distinct syllables. I would prefer to describe them correctly rather than using simple symmetry

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I think they are the same?

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Let Stan looklook

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ok

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Marked as resolved by ruka

04:36:159 - 这里这一团LN似乎并没有背景那个长音,也就是说和04:35:454 - 以及前面类似的结构是不一样的声音

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changed to normal note

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Marked as resolved by ruka

Very good

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05:04:280 (304280|2,304351|2) - seems the only one jacky compare with 05:05:851 - 05:07:351 - .... hard to hit wo I sugg delete this one 05:04:351 (304351|2) -

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Rearranged to be slightly easier to hit and deleted that note

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Marked as resolved by Blocko

05:05:851 (305851|0,305851|3,305851|1,305944|3,305944|1) - since this sound 05:05:944 - pretty high like a tone change shifting something like that, so the normal stack/jack seems kinda not enough in expression , I suggest to make it hit by other hand like

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Applied. I think I followed your idea here, please let me know if something feels off xd

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Marked as resolved by Blocko

05:08:101 - how about use 1/8 for coherence and also because sound changed here 05:08:288 -

05:14:501 - this is good

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Sure thing

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Marked as resolved by Blocko

05:16:001 - how about design a follow-up action

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sure thing

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

Here is a small question of mine
05:24:250 - to 05:26:096 - In this section, because it uses 130bpm, the vibrato of the violin seems difficult to be align. I found that you used 1/6 to 3/16 for fitting.
If using 140bpm, it seems to be able to continue the 3/16 interval by here 05:23:661 (323661|3,323741|1,323822|5,323902|3,323982|6,324063|0,324143|1,324223|5) -

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yeah fixed
very food.

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Marked as resolved by U1d

05:33:388 (333388|2) - wanna end on 05:34:288 - cuz breath . 05:33:388 (333388|5) - can keep for structure

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isn't it already ended on 05:34:288 - ? :starege:

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Maybe我的版本有点旧,will closed next check

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yes

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Marked as resolved by AWMRone

05:36:838 - this "T" sound is more like a acciaccatura , we can hear another major vocal was made on the white line 05:36:988 - . the current ver will make the landingpoint on the syncopated position , witch is very uncomfortable

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fixed few updates ago, forgot to resolve this post oops

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

:3

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05:46:588 (346588|5) - Can extend to 05:48:388 - breath point . cuz 05:47:788 (347788|2) - is for cello

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sure thing

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

05:50:788 - I know the vocal repeat here but the more obvious breath is here 05:51:088 - so

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ok

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

06:05:188 (365188|2) - seems start on 06:05:038 -

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rearranged this part a tiny bit

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

06:08:113 - single is enough and rearrange

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ok

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

06:12:388 - How about make some LN longer to describe vocal as well ?

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OK

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

06:16:588 - Here feels very empty compare with other places this part , ofc its no violin but how about buff some LN or add vocal in this sentence ? also 06:17:413 - miss drum

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nice idea

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

yup

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

06:46:745 (406745|4) - make tails on white line is more beatiful ? tbh I prefer make them all 1/8 for more smooth

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prefer to keep it as is

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

i'm not really convinced since it is done with the intention of representing rising pitch of the violins, personally think a flat tail ending is a bit bland. it should be fine as it follows a clear structure and it doesn't really affect accuracy

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

不同意这一点,首先06:49:673 - 这里的语句可以看作是06:48:816 - 这个高音violin在低音区的镜像部分,小提琴声音也很干净,没有揉弦的部分,并且考虑整段都是density的情况下,突然出现这种结构有点突兀。值得指出的是,06:50:245 (410245|5,410245|3,410245|6) - 这个地方也需要修改。
可以类比后续相似的部分07:26:816 - 这里就是一个不错的例子。沿用类似这个结构即可。
Grace仅用于低沉的提琴声即可07:23:102 (443102|4,443102|3,443149|2,443197|1,443245|0) -
Also I d like to 听听2nd的意见

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Reopened by AWMRone

. i honestly don't like how this is a problem but it's whatever, removed the staggered tails

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

06:53:816 - Double ?(not a big one)

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ok

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06:57:745 - 06:57:888 - can add rice for drum if you want , make difference vs 06:56:745 - and 06:56:602 - // can also compare with 06:58:030 (418030|5,418173|5) -
And you did it like 07:00:030 (420030|0,420030|5,420173|6,420173|1,420173|5) - so necessary to fix

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fixed, but only used single notes for the kicks

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

07:13:959 - I think its using this 3+3 structure is not appropriate , can compare with 07:27:102 - which has violin with obvious directionality ,so 07:13:959 - is mainly vocal chant so I prefer use some delay or do sth like 07:16:245 - this sentence

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didnt get, for me it's just a melody reapeat with 1/4~3/4 and 1/4 break like

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感觉也行倒是

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Marked as resolved by AWMRone

07:25:673 (445673|3,445816|4) - didnt get why this LN tail not at the similar position with note

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Fixed tail snaps

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Marked as resolved by Blocko

07:42:584 (462584|0,462763|6,464870|6,465048|0) - 这段还是想在削弱一点 确实有点太快了,我的办法是删掉外轨这4个对车的note,然后现在两根白线之间7-8个米,和07:47:102 - 这一拍密度就差不多了

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冷知识:删除这4个键正好7000 (

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rearranged a little

密度一样的,你可以数一数。3+9+3 = 3+8+4
太快可能是因为 07:42:459 (462459|0,462584|0) 这俩间隔小了一点导致出现了这种感觉

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Marked as resolved by U1d

我的意思就是9大于8,线上的不算,中间夹的东西密度大

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07:45:941 (465941|3,465959|4,465977|5,465995|6) - 1/16 early really strange to me, can be just like ?

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I've made a few changes and it feels quite different from the previous 2 sets. after the entire pattern became 1/8 shorter, the "breathing" feel became a bit stiff. so keeping it as is should be fine

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Marked as resolved by U1d

sure

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resolve

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Marked as resolved by U1d
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Reopened by AWMRone

oops i forgot, nerfed

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Marked as resolved by U1d

08:03:218 (483218|4,483218|5) - seems no drum cuz is on 08:03:150 - (but fix will destroy structure , can keep for structure)

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

hihat

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

08:10:959 - is different with 08:08:959 - especially on 08:11:146 - drum but its a small one

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small rearranged

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

08:11:771 - can clean up LN length

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keep

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Marked as resolved by ExNeko

08:17:459 - can nerf with 1/6 and reduce chordsize when burst occured

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no

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Marked as resolved by ruka

yes no need to change after watching some osr

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08:18:521 - I guess you set LN burst for vocal , if so , here vocal lasted for two beats ,so this burst can be extended to 08:19:209 - //08:26:521 - as well

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This swirl ln is not set for vocal, it ends on the vocal

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Marked as resolved by ruka

08:31:334 - Can use 4+2 instead of 5+1

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the 1/4 part doesn't sounds too dense imo, decided to nerf to 4-1-5-1-4-5 etc (reduce a note interval)

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:35:146 (515146|3) - can be ignored like 08:33:146 - cuz 08:35:146 (515146|3,515240|3) - is hard to hit
08:36:084 - also do similar

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removed the note there , 08:36:084 - here reduced density + rearranged

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:36:021 (516021|4,516084|2,516146|0) - i think the beat here more split feeling, so if do this like a stream 531 seems so comfortable to make a flow, in order to show the difficulty or the shifting feeling , I suggest something like

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can

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08:41:959 - too fast burst

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need more opinion on this

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For me this hears like a break cuz 背景音也暂停了,but now players still have to 拍两下,so

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I don't think this effects playability that much cause of hand trill basically, but based on AWMRone approach you can just delete the outer fingers and make it centered on the fingers [2356] instead of [123567]

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didn't fine anything wrong here, totally ok my side

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I sugg use exneko pattern in discord

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that's also fine but kinda like less density for me

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slightly modified from exneko pattern by adding another 2 note at col 1 and 7

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:44:084 - can add 08:44:146 - note if you want , can keep to intentional break

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i think break would be good for the final burst

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:44:115 - some sharp sound happened here can be mapped like pre-pattern thing, kinda of like a waste to ignore, yeah the beark needed but this sound can be mapped

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thought it would be nice to have a full break but alright then, did a small 1/8 here

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:46:209 - time to fix haha

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fixed to 1/4

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

以下几个建议:
1、这里08:46:084 - 的burst是一个明显的转换与休息,目前很细的缝导致手感太粘(当然,这个bpm下区别不是特别明显但是我觉得必要性不大)
2、后续的1/4仍然存在1/6穿插,我觉得是没有必要的,已经是非常快的鼓点了,实际打击感觉应该偏向于米饭一些
3、08:45:959 - 为了突出08:46:084 - 这里的burst,用1/4更好,(虽然我知道你是为了和08:44:209 (524209|3,524240|2,524271|1) - 这个声音保持一致)
所以

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Reopened by AWMRone

different idea here, for me it's ok to keep 08:45:959 (525959|1,525959|0,525990|2,526021|3,526021|6,526052|5,526084|4,526084|0,526104|1,526125|2,526146|3,526167|4,526188|5,526209|6) - the 1/8 gap roll but those notes 08:45:959 (525959|1,525990|2,526021|3,526021|6,526052|5,526084|4) - seems more like a beat based not a burst so suggest to make less densitiy here
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example to explain what im mean not means this is the only solution

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黏,plays awkward

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just a idea here, or just the chord, for example, decided by mapper
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edit 因为我没有弄tail对其snap,which need to be done in txt so what im post (that ss) 是随意拉的 没有控制尾巴snap

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08:46:021 - 而且还有一个原因是这里其实并没有burst(相对后面08:46:146 - 这里),所以我的图片中只做了一个burst

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i remember my first draft was like stan idea, but then I thought a full 1/8 burst would play better,
making 1/12 to rice always feels lack of impact since the build up progression should go higher and higher imo so it become more inverse-y

but ok i agree on the first burst changes, i changed the arrangement to make it easier to burst

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OK

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Marked as resolved by AWMRone

08:47:334 - 08:47:709 - can add one rice

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ok

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Marked as resolved by Critical_Star

08:48:730 - 08:49:078 - 08:50:209 - can add piano , also 08:52:382 - can add one rice cuz real piano is double

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08:48:730 - for this one i don't think it's the piano, just the echo from the background sound
08:49:056 - i dragged the col 1 LN down to this timestamp for the piano
08:50:230 - added a note here for the piano, i think it's more accurate on this timestamp

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

08:49:252 (529252|0) - better start on 08:49:774 -

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refer to #4826375/12817015 , dragged the col 1 LN down so i don't think there's any need to add more ln here

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

08:56:776 (536776|4) - can be longer cuz I think the background sound is still strong , use one 08:56:776 (536776|6) - is not enough

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made it a bit longer

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

08:58:620 - Seems you catch the details for violin before 05:23:873 - Prefer add echo or delete them all

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added notes for the violin tremolo

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Marked as resolved by _Kobii

09:00:189 (540189|5) - defo started from 09:00:154 -

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ok

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