erase u (sped up & cut ver.)

its not visible when playing so whatever

to be clear, these being jumps isn't my problem (though i don't really know why they aren't continuous to emphasize the guitar better for the first few), it's the fact these are literally just the same pattern repeated

yes

@riot will remove the diff from the set

is there any reason this is bad aside from "its the same pattern repeated", the 1-2 parts are following the same repeated rhythm, the 1-2-3-4 are following another repeated rhythm, i cant see a mapping reason to force pattern variety aside from "its stupid/pp abuse" despite this already tanking a -10% nerf and very likely going to be even more nuked whenever next deploy drops

agreeing with basen here, this seems completely fine

@kujinn pls dont delete diff this is so good

i'm not saying you need to delete the difficulty from the set, i'm just asking for at least some variety in jump patterns instead of reusing the same thing over and over. even adding one or two variations would work fine -- star jumps are honestly easier to play at this BPM and would work decently well with the same gradual spacing concept

is there any reason this is bad aside from "its the same pattern repeated"
i cant see a mapping reason to force pattern variety aside from "its stupid/pp abuse" despite this already tanking a -10% nerf and very likely going to be even more nuked whenever next deploy drops

because it's boring as fuck to play lol

if you're incredibly insistent on keeping this as is, i'm not gonna veto (if i'm gonna be honest i genuinely just can't be arsed and i'd probably get death threats for doing so anyways), but this is super disappointing to see from mappers that i know can make better maps than this.

because it's boring as fuck to play lol

obviously im not flaming the mappers because they can do what they want, but if we're gonna start posting about maps being boring or repetitive then i would start posting problem stamps on every single 3-4* low bpm single diff sleepathon that looks the exact same and also does not make use of any more engaging patterning than what this diff does

i find this map fun the same way i find ur 2019 vertical spam maps fun, it doesnt need to be less repetitive for your own tastes only, you may just not be the target audience for this diff

the only semi valid reason to have complaints over repetitive patterning on this would be concern over it being pp abuse (even if i dont agree in mappers' or bns' agency with regulating it)

knowing that this specific type of patterning has not only already been nerfed, but that maps like it will continue to get nerfed with pretty much every high priority pp rework proposal at the moment, should be the moment where this semi valid reason for posting something disappears

not allowing this type of stuff to go through after the bulk of the issue with them is gone will result in history repeating itself with years of backwards thinking on what makes a map overweighted and in worsening the enjoyment of the game for a large portion of players

anyways @reform fix ur nc bud #4857385

not allowing this type of stuff to go through after the bulk of the issue with them is gone will result in history repeating itself with years of backwards thinking on what makes a map overweighted and in worsening the enjoyment of the game for a large portion of players

man are you even looking at the comments on this map, this is already becoming unenjoyable for a pretty sizeable amount of people because there's zero quality standards now

if we're genuinely accepting maps like this as "ranked" worthy then that is an insane fall from grace even from 2019 standards (which, mind you, had several vetoes related to these types of maps, and i was forced to change quite a bit from how my maps in that era were originally made!)

you can say "i'm not the target audience" all you want, but with all sincerity, who's the target audience here? people who flail their cursor around and get rewarded due to CSR? because that's basically all the plays on these types of maps amount to. you can try to separate the pp system from this discussion, but players are going to play what gives them pp, so if you're bringing in "what players want", of course they're gonna be playing this -- because it's fucking broken lol

i already discussed this a bit with you in DM and i know we aren't ever going to see eye to eye on this, but this is way too idealized of a worldview

honestly kind of feel like i'm just repeating myself from a multitude of different threads on this exact topic at this point so i'm just gonna leave it at that

again -- if you really want to keep this as it is, whatever, i'm not gonna push further, mostly because i'm genuinely scared of how the community will react to a veto on this, especially if it's from me. the fact i even have to worry about that is kinda sad, but it is what it is

map is pretty lazy but ill be real it was more fun to me than pikas and top regardless. lazy doesnt mean boring necessarily

reform sent me the adjusted diff, ill upload tomorrow evening

sike i did it now

after talking with reform and fiery, we decided to keep the old version nonetheless

diff has been remapped

should not be an error methinks

how is nc a problem stamp lmao

It's misleading so it is technically problem.

NC mod will never be a problem stamp

oops.. i rlly need to get better at knowing what to do what. ;-;

@Roupus 1646223#2778057

would just fix this if the mapper does decide to resolve #4857573.

Norbert Chris Error has been removed

(long for nc error)

feels fine when playing

it plays fine

my suggestion plays better imo

both versions play fine

adjusted a bit

diff has been remapped